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JordansBulls
08-28-2008, 03:34 PM
Rank Your Teams Top 5 NBA Drafts and Worst 5 NBA Drafts

Team: Chicago Bulls


Here are My Top 5 NBA Drafts
1. 1984 - #3 pick - MJ (obviously)
2. 1987 - Traded #8 pick (Olden Poynice) for #5 pick in (Scottie Pippen) and drafted at #10 and got (Horace Grant)
3. 1990 - #29 Pick - Toni Kukoc (even though it would be 4 years before he played in the league)
4. 1999 - #1 Pick - Elton Brand
5. 2008 - #1 Pick - Derrick Rose



Worst Top 5 NBA Drafts
1. 2000 - #4 Pick - Marcus Fizer, #32 Pick - AJ Guyton, #33 Pick - Jake Voskuhl, #34 Pick - Khalid El-Amin
2. 1986 - #9 Pick - Brad Sellers
3. 2002 - #2 Pick - Jay Williams (listed because it basically didn't help us at all)
4. 2004 - # 3 Pick and #7 Pick (Ben Gordon and Luol Deng) I know I will get blasted for this, but people forget Iggy was there at #9 and Al Jefferson was their at #15 and even Kevin Martin at #26
5. 2006 - Traded the #2 pick in Lamarcus Aldridge to the Blazers for the #4 pick in Tyrus Thomas. Also Brandon Roy was available at #6.

IndyRealist
08-28-2008, 04:27 PM
Pacers drafts are hard to gauge because they have a long history of trading away their first round draft picks.

Top 5:
1) 1987 Reggie Miller #11. Easily changed the course of the team.
2) 2005 Danny Granger #17. A steal due to health concerns.
3) 1988 Rick Smits #2. Got the best big man in an otherwise weak draft.
4) 1991 Dale Davis #13. Double double, set the tone of the team. Later parlayed into Jermaine O'Neal.
5) 1997 Austin Croshere. Never lived up to his expectations, but a key member of both the NBA Finals team and the 61 win team.

Bottom 5:
1) 2003 No First Round pick. LeBron, Melo, Bosh, Wade, etc.
2) 2007 No First Round pick. Greg Oden, Kevin Durant, Al Horford, etc.
3) 1996 Erick Dampier #10. Kobe, Stojakovic, Nash, Jermaine O'Neal, and Ilgauskas all came after.
4) 2001 Jamaal Tinsley #27. #28 was Tony Parker.
5) 1985 Wayman Tisdale #2. Passed on Chris Mullin, Detlef Schrempf, Karl Malone, and Joe Dumars.

Lakersfan2483
08-28-2008, 04:30 PM
My top drafts: 1979 draft (Magic Johnson and Larry Bird draft, the rest is history), 1984 draft (MJ, Hakeem the Dream), 96 draft (Kobe, Allen Iverson, Nash, R. Allen, Marbury, probably the greatest draft in terms of talent.

96: We traded for Kobe, and added the Diesel, a truly historic year.

ARMIN12NBA
08-28-2008, 04:33 PM
My top drafts: 1979 draft (Magic Johnson and Larry Bird draft, the rest is history), 1984 draft (MJ, Hakeem the Dream), 96 draft (Kobe, Allen Iverson, Nash, R. Allen, Marbury, probably the greatest draft in terms of talent.

96: We traded for Kobe, and added the Diesel, a truly historic year.

This is not the top 5 drafts. This is YOUR TEAMS top 5 drafts.

bogdanrom
08-28-2008, 04:52 PM
Pacers drafts are hard to gauge because they have a long history of trading away their first round draft picks.

Top 5:
1) 1987 Reggie Miller #11. Easily changed the course of the team.
2) 2005 Danny Granger #17. A steal due to health concerns.
3) 1988 Rick Smits #2. Got the best big man in an otherwise weak draft.
4) 1991 Dale Davis #13. Double double, set the tone of the team. Later parlayed into Jermaine O'Neal.
5) 1997 Austin Croshere. Never lived up to his expectations, but a key member of both the NBA Finals team and the 61 win team.

Bottom 5:
1) 2003 No First Round pick. LeBron, Melo, Bosh, Wade, etc.
2) 2007 No First Round pick. Greg Oden, Kevin Durant, Al Horford, etc.
3) 1996 Erick Dampier #10. Kobe, Stojakovic, Nash, Jermaine O'Neal, and Ilgauskas all came after.
4) 2001 Jamaal Tinsley #27. #28 was Tony Parker.
5) 1985 Wayman Tisdale #2. Passed on Chris Mullin, Detlef Schrempf, Karl Malone, and Joe Dumars.

Ouch!! That's gotta sting. Unfortnately for me I'm a Wizards fan, and we have our share of dissapointing drafts.

Wizards Worst:
2003: We got Jarvis Hayes with the 10th pick. Guys picked after him: David West, Josh Howard, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw.
2001: We picked Kwam Brown, oneo of the worst 1st picks ever. Guys picked after him; Tyson Chandler, Gilbert Arenas, Pau Gasol, Jason Richardson, Joe Johnson, Richard Jefferson, Zach Randolph, Gerald Wallace, Tony Parker, Samuel Dalembert.
1998; No picks in first round. Draft included Mike Bibby, Antawn Jamison, Vince Carter, Dirk Nowitski, Paul Pierce
2008: Some consider Javale to be the biggest bust of the draft.
2004: No first round picks(3rd worst record in the NBA). Draft included Dwight Howard, Ben Gordon, Emeka Okafor, Andre Iguadala, Al Jefferson, Josh Smith, Kevin Martin. We ended up picking Peter John Ramos with the 33rd pick

Wizards Best:
2001: Even if we picked Kwame, in the end we ended up with Caron Butler.
1999: We picked Richard Hamilton
1968: Drafted Wes Unseld.NBA Rookie of the Year + NBA MVP the same year, 1978 Finals MVP
1967: Drafted Earl "The Pearl" Monroe with the second pick.Rookie of the Year, All NBA First Team
1961: Drafted Walt Bellamy with the first pick. Rookie of the Year, 4 time All Star, All NBA 1st Team

rhino17
08-28-2008, 05:17 PM
Rockets

Best:
1) 1984 (Akeem Olajuwon, although we passed on Jordan, the Dream still brought us our only championships)
2) 1983 (Ralph Sampson, Rodney McCray, both contributed to the Rockets finals appearance in the late 80s)
3) 1970 (Rudy Tomjanovich, Calvin Murphy, 2 Hall of Famers in one draft is pretty good)
4) 2002 (Yao Ming, Boki Nachbar, they got the most marketable player in the world and one of my all-time favorite rockets in Nachbar)
5) 1993 (Sam Cassell, the Rockets got a big steal at the end of the first round and were even criticized for taking him)

Worst
1) 2006 (Rudy Gay, Steve Novak, they trade a guy who looks like he will be a pretty good player for a long time and wasting the first pick in the second round on Novak)
2) 2001 (Richard Jefferson, among others and then trading him for Eddie Griffin r.i.p.)
3) 1998 (Michael Dickerson, Bryce Drew, Mirsad Turkcan, Cuttino Mobley, they got a steal in Mobley in the 2nd round and Dickerson had potential but his career was ending with injuries, however they passed on the hometown high school kid Rashard Lewis not once, but 4 times)
4) 2000 (Jason Collier, Dan Langhi, two bust with fairly high picks)
5) 1989 (no picks)

DopieB
08-28-2008, 05:30 PM
Rank Your Teams Top 5 NBA Drafts and Worst 5 NBA Drafts

Team: Chicago Bulls


Here are My Top 5 NBA Drafts
1. 1984 - #3 pick - MJ (obviously)
2. 1987 - Traded #8 pick (Olden Poynice) for #5 pick in (Scottie Pippen) and drafted at #10 and got (Horace Grant)
3. 1990 - #29 Pick - Toni Kukoc (even though it would be 4 years before he played in the league)
4. 1999 - #1 Pick - Elton Brand
5. 2008 - #1 Pick - Derrick Rose



Worst Top 5 NBA Drafts
1. 2000 - #4 Pick - Marcus Fizer, #32 Pick - AJ Guyton, #33 Pick - Jake Voskuhl, #34 Pick - Khalid El-Amin
2. 1986 - #9 Pick - Brad Sellers
3. 2002 - #2 Pick - Jay Williams (listed because it basically didn't help us at all)
4. 2004 - # 3 Pick and #7 Pick (Ben Gordon and Luol Deng) I know I will get blasted for this, but people forget Iggy was there at #9 and Al Jefferson was their at #15 and even Kevin Martin at #26
5. 2006 - Traded the #2 pick in Lamarcus Aldridge to the Blazers for the #4 pick in Tyrus Thomas. Also Brandon Roy was available at #6.

I'm a Bulls fan as well and couldn't have said it better, for the most part. but you forgot '01 when we grabbed curry, and traded for the #2 pick (Tyson Chandler ) with pau at # 3 and curry over richard jefferson, and in the second round grabbing hassel over Mehmet Okur and Arenas

Beno7500
08-28-2008, 05:46 PM
Best: (No order)
Garcia
Martin
Peja
Hedo
G. Wallace

Worst:
Douby
Idk...

Drewlius
08-28-2008, 06:24 PM
Spurs

Best:
1999 - Manu with the #28 Pick in the 2nd Round
1987 - David Robinson
1997 - Tim Duncan
2001 - Tony Parker with the #28 Pick
1989 - Sean Elliot with the #3 Pick

Worst:
2003 - Barbosa, we almost continued a great streak of top foreign players, but traded him almost immediately.
1998 - Felipe Lopez, it was a late 1st round pick, but we passed on Al H, R. Lewis, Ruben Patterson, Cuttino
2002 - John Salmons, we drafted him, and traded him, think he could have been great for the Spurs.
1985 - Alfredrick Hughes, played one season, Dumars, Terry Porter, AC Green came after him

Can't truly find that many other drafts that were very poor.

MiamiHeat
08-28-2008, 07:14 PM
^ thats nice
didn't know that Parker and Ginobili were drafted in the 28th pick
great picks

LayZbone
08-28-2008, 08:33 PM
Top 5:
2003- Dwyane Wade (5th overall)
1988- Rony Seikaly (9th), Kevin Edwards (20th), Grant Long
1989- Glen Rice (4th), Sherman Douglas (28th)
2008- Michael Beasley (2nd), Mario Chalmers (35th)
2002- Caron Butler (10th), Rasual Butler

Worst:
every other draft, including 2005....picking Wayne Simien ahead of David Lee, Monta Ellis etc.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-28-2008, 09:29 PM
Toronto Raptors

Good

1. 2003-#4 pick Chris Bosh
2. 1998-#4 pick Antawn Jamison then traded to get #5 pick Vince Carter
3. 1997-#9 pick Tracy McGrady
4. 1996-#2 pick Marcus Camby
5. 1995-#7 pick Damon Stoudamire

Bad

1. 2004-#8 pick Rafael Araujo(past on guys like Iggy,Beidrins,Jefferson, Josh Smith, J.R Smith, Jameer Nelson, Kevin Martin, Delonte West, and MANY more)
2. 2007-No picks(many talent like
3. 1999-#5 Jonathan Bender
4. 2001-#17 Michael Bradley
5. 2002-#20 Kareem Rush

IndyRealist
08-28-2008, 09:53 PM
Toronto Raptors

Good

1. 2003-#4 pick Chris Bosh
2. 1998-#4 pick Antawn Jamison then traded to get #5 pick Vince Carter
3. 1997-#9 pick Tracy McGrady
4. 1996-#2 pick Marcus Camby
5. 1995-#7 pick Damon Stoudamire

Bad

1. 2004-#8 pick Rafael Araujo(past on guys like Iggy,Beidrins,Jefferson, Josh Smith, J.R Smith, Jameer Nelson, Kevin Martin, Delonte West, and MANY more)
2. 2007-No picks(many talent like
3. 1999-#5 Jonathan Bender
4. 2001-#17 Michael Bradley
5. 2002-#20 Kareem Rush

Ummm...Jonathan Bender was drafted for the Pacers, to complete a previous trade. He was never really a Raptor, kinda like Roy Hibbert. Now Bender should have been on my list, on the other hand....Then again, Toronto traded away an unprotected first round pick, which ended up #5, so I guess it should be on Toronto's list, too.

rhino17
08-28-2008, 09:58 PM
Spurs

Best:
1999 - Manu with the #28 Pick in the 2nd Round
1987 - David Robinson
1997 - Tim Duncan
2001 - Tony Parker with the #28 Pick
1989 - Sean Elliot with the #3 Pick

Worst:
2003 - Barbosa, we almost continued a great streak of top foreign players, but traded him almost immediately.
1998 - Felipe Lopez, it was a late 1st round pick, but we passed on Al H, R. Lewis, Ruben Patterson, Cuttino
2002 - John Salmons, we drafted him, and traded him, think he could have been great for the Spurs.
1985 - Alfredrick Hughes, played one season, Dumars, Terry Porter, AC Green came after him
2002 - Luis Scola, rights traded to Houston for Vassillis Spanoullis who refused to play in the nba anymore (although I was a big fan of his)

Can't truly find that many other drafts that were very poor.

I think tht may qualify as a 5th, but you are right, the spurs dont mess up much in the draft

Halladay
08-28-2008, 10:11 PM
Raptors-

Best 5

1-Tracy McGrady-9'th overall(1997)
2-Chris Bosh-4'th overall(2003)
3-Antawn Jamison-4'th overall traded to Golden state for Vince Carter(1998)
4-Marcus Camby-2'nd overall (1996)
5-It's a tie- Charlie Villanueva 7'th overall(2005)/Morris Peterson 21'st overall(2000)

Worst-

1-Rafel Arraujo-8'th overall(2004) Arraujo has always haunted the Raptors, like it was mentioned above, Arraujo was picked out of nowhere when there were so many players who in hindsight, have become pretty damn good NBA players.

2-Aleksandar Radojević-12'th overall (1999) Alek who?

3-Joey Graham-16'th overall(2005) A player who was suppose to be similar to Igoudala who has done jack. The "get rid of Joey Graham" fan club grows by the minute. Complete waste of natural talent.

4-Michael Bradley-17'th overall(2001) Completely useless

5-Andrea Bargnani-1'st overall (2006) Now, Andrea still has Dirk type potential and after having a promising rookie season, he followed it up with a second season of mediocre play. In all fairness, he's still exteremely young and I believe he one day will be a very productive big man. Yes, we could've taken Brandon Roy but that's easy to say in hindsight. Bargnani is 5'th on my list until he proves next season that he's improving.

BRADfromOZ
08-28-2008, 10:20 PM
Best
1. 1984 - Overall Pick #1 - Hakeem Olajuwon
2. 1970 - Overall Pick #18 - Calvin Murphy
3. 2002 - Overall Pick #1 - Yao Ming
4. 1968 - Overall Pick #1 - Elvin Hayes
5. 2001 - Overall Pick #13 - Richard Jefferson

Honorable mentions to Rudy T, Sam Cassell, Robert Horry, Rudy Gay, Pat Riley and Rick Adelman.

Worse
1. - 5. Anyone drafted who never played a single game in the NBA

THE NATION
08-28-2008, 10:30 PM
I'm a Bulls fan as well and couldn't have said it better, for the most part. but you forgot '01 when we grabbed curry, and traded for the #2 pick (Tyson Chandler ) with pau at # 3 and curry over richard jefferson, and in the second round grabbing hassel over Mehmet Okur and Arenas
Damn, That Draft could have made you a championship team if you woul have drafted Gasol, Jefferson, and Arenas. It's kinda crazy that one draft could have set a team up like that.

stevefrancis
08-28-2008, 10:43 PM
in 83 the rockets had the first and third picks they picked sampson and took rodney mccray at 3 and could have taken clyde drexler who played in houston or even dale ellis. imagine they had sampson and drexler then got hakeem the next year or if they drafted jordan lmao.

pwest6
08-28-2008, 10:57 PM
Ouch!! That's gotta sting. Unfortnately for me I'm a Wizards fan, and we have our share of dissapointing drafts.

Wizards Worst:
2003: We got Jarvis Hayes with the 10th pick. Guys picked after him: David West, Josh Howard, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw.
2001: We picked Kwam Brown, oneo of the worst 1st picks ever. Guys picked after him; Tyson Chandler, Gilbert Arenas, Pau Gasol, Jason Richardson, Joe Johnson, Richard Jefferson, Zach Randolph, Gerald Wallace, Tony Parker, Samuel Dalembert.

I think that one deserves to be the worst in Wizards history. At least Hayes has become a somewhat decent player.

BRADfromOZ
08-28-2008, 10:58 PM
There are too many "what if's" in this situation. Easier to stick with "what did's".

Master P
08-28-2008, 11:20 PM
im confused as to how raptor fans dont have mighty mouse and the vince trade number one and two. sure some of the other moves worked out, but these two were surprises and paid off huge for the team. damon gave the franchise a great start and introduced bball to toronto. then vince exploded its popularity. too bad both went douche shortly after.

bogdanrom
08-29-2008, 12:03 AM
I think that one deserves to be the worst in Wizards history. At least Hayes has become a somewhat decent player.

Oh I wasn't ranking them. I just put them down, as soon as they popped in to my head. I agree with you, though, Kwame is by far the worst pick in Wizards history.

Drewlius
08-29-2008, 12:04 PM
^ thats nice
didn't know that Parker and Ginobili were drafted in the 28th pick
great picks

Yeah, Manu was actually the 57th pick though, 28th in the 2nd round.

pippsux
08-29-2008, 01:26 PM
Rockets

Best:
1) 1984 (Akeem Olajuwon, although we passed on Jordan, the Dream still brought us our only championships)
2) 1983 (Ralph Sampson, Rodney McCray, both contributed to the Rockets finals appearance in the late 80s)
3) 1970 (Rudy Tomjanovich, Calvin Murphy, 2 Hall of Famers in one draft is pretty good)
4) 2002 (Yao Ming, Boki Nachbar, they got the most marketable player in the world and one of my all-time favorite rockets in Nachbar)
5) 1993 (Sam Cassell, the Rockets got a big steal at the end of the first round and were even criticized for taking him)

Worst
1) 2006 (Rudy Gay, Steve Novak, they trade a guy who looks like he will be a pretty good player for a long time and wasting the first pick in the second round on Novak)
2) 2001 (Richard Jefferson, among others and then trading him for Eddie Griffin r.i.p.)
3) 1998 (Michael Dickerson, Bryce Drew, Mirsad Turkcan, Cuttino Mobley, they got a steal in Mobley in the 2nd round and Dickerson had potential but his career was ending with injuries, however they passed on the hometown high school kid Rashard Lewis not once, but 4 times)
4) 2000 (Jason Collier, Dan Langhi, two bust with fairly high picks)
5) 1989 (no picks)


CD was rocket all the way, but he had more failures than successes as GM. The Rudy Gay trade still pisses me off. We could have gotten Battier w/o giving up the 8th pick. We would have had a player of the future to build around when Tmac's run is over.

The flip side, Dream was the best pick.