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JWalk126
08-26-2008, 08:41 PM
Source: Ball in Europe (http://www.ballineurope.com/national-teams/comparing-european-travel-calls-to-nba-travel-calls/)

For some reason, many Europeans - especially Spanish players complained a lot about the referees not calling the U.S. traveling.

In some way, I really do understand both sides. Traveling in the NBA and the United States is not called the same way as it is called in the Euroleague and Europe. It looks like both sides just do not know better and do not understand why the other one is so upset. To defend the US continent, NCAA and FIBA rules are almost the same, while the NBA just has a few minor changes.

During my trip to the U.S. this past summer (yes summer is almost over!), I followed the US teamís pre olympic games as well as the Olympics. Before every game, the commentators talked about the differences between FIBA and NBA rules, such as the size of the court and even the size of the ball, but they never explained the important thing: TRAVELING.

Time to bring some light into the darkness of those made/missing travel calls! (Watch out where you click to start the video - the middle button is advertising - to start the video click the left corner)

Here (http://members.shaw.ca/jazzace/ace/hoop/rulediff.html) are the essentials of FIBA and NBA rules for traveling:


NBA/WNBA rule is a little more liberal than the current NCAA and FIBA rules when a player is coming to a stop. The NBA/WNBA rule is identical to the pre-1994 FIBA rule; in essence, once you have come to a legal stop, you always have a foot to pivot with. NCAA and current FIBA rules can leave a player without a pivot foot. As well, if you land with a staggered stop (i.e. one foot, then the other, with one foot clearly in front of the other), the back foot is the pivot foot in NBA/WNBA. In NCAA/FIBA, the first foot to touch is the pivot.

Sounds easy right?

Here comes the problem - why did the referees not make these calls in Beijing? It is obvious that at the Olympics, the teams have to play with FIBA rules, and that TEAM USA HAD to travel just because they are used to different rules. When you play basketball every day, you are not thinking about your steps - you just know it - so Team USA really had to travel, just because they do it - according to FIBA rules or course - every single day in NBA games.

In case you donít believe me - just watch this video where we have proof of travel:




We know now, that Team USA did travel at least 5-10 times a game, but the referees did not call it, but would that have changed the outcome of the Olympics? I donít think so.

Still, why did the referees not make those calls? Any referee in a 5th division team in Europe would have made those calls, that you saw in that video. I just hope there hasnít been some ďhigherĒ influence.

Video is in Source link

cambovenzi
08-26-2008, 08:50 PM
gettin a little picky.
guy didnt even really catch the ball yet.
but i get what its saying.

JWalk126
08-26-2008, 08:56 PM
I didnt watch the video yet

I'm too busy watching the Mets-Phillies and Red Sox-Yankees games

cambovenzi
08-26-2008, 10:28 PM
I didnt watch the video yet

I'm too busy watching the Mets-Phillies and Red Sox-Yankees games

ahh.
me too.

its just an inbound pass to lebron, and he took a few steps while catching it.

Hellcrooner
08-27-2008, 01:18 AM
would it have mattered in the final game?


11 points of difference.

5 times they should have called them

thats 1 point.

and add if they had called them spanish team would have not gone nuts and get TWO tecnical fouls in the last minutes who where 4 points and 2 possesions

that leaves it n -9 for Usa.

IT MATTERS.

and they didnt call them because they were schooled not to do so.

to much money was at the stake for Nba in emergene market of China , and to much spent moeny from Nike on the Redeem ****, to allow spain to send it all to hell.

Hellcrooner
08-27-2008, 01:18 AM
you sould post this thread in the nba forum too jwalk, so EVERYBODY will know how they cheate.

cambovenzi
08-27-2008, 03:14 AM
you sould post this thread in the nba forum too jwalk, so EVERYBODY will know how they cheate.

lmao.
they didnt "cheat".
care to post the travels from the spain game?

if i had the game tape i sure could show you what a spanish flop looks like.

Hellcrooner
08-27-2008, 11:28 AM
"flops"

In fiba, that is a basketball game and not Rugby, or as you call it " football" COntact is not allowed, every contact is a FOul, something that was caled only half of the times that Howard used hsi hands to deffende and kikecd spanish layers.

JWalk126
08-27-2008, 04:59 PM
you sould post this thread in the nba forum too jwalk, so EVERYBODY will know how they cheate.

done :up:

cambovenzi
08-27-2008, 05:46 PM
"flops"

In fiba, that is a basketball game and not Rugby, or as you call it " football" COntact is not allowed, every contact is a FOul, something that was caled only half of the times that Howard used hsi hands to deffende and kikecd spanish layers.

no...
basketball is not a no contact sport.
your guys get nudged and they go down like they got shot.
that is called a flop.

if you think its a no contact sport how is marc gasol not fouled out in 5 seconds?

JWalk126
08-27-2008, 05:48 PM
no...
basketball is not a no contact sport.
your guys get nudged and they go down like they got shot.
that is called a flop.

youre lucky youre not a Celtics fan, because I cant start going on about game 1 of the NBA Finals