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fly boy
08-24-2008, 12:55 AM
From:http://lakers.freedomblogging.com/2008/08/22/the-work-is-paying-off/

The 18 months of long, arduous and often painful rehabilitation work that guard Shaun Livingston has put in, seems to be paying off.

Not only is the Clippers’ former first-round draft pick playing regularly in full-court, five-on-five pickup games at noted personal trainer Tim Grover’s Attack Athletics private facility in Chicago but Grover said hardly a day goes by when the 22-year old Livingston is not on the premises.

“He’s here five to six days a week, working out,” Grover said via telephone Friday morning. “I won’t go into any detail regarding what he’s doing but I’ll say this, by the first day of training camp, he’ll be ready.”

Not withstanding the severity of the injury that Livingston suffered to his left knee Feb. 26, 2007, the extensive surgery that renowned Alabama-based orthopedic surgeon James Andrews had to perform and the long recovery that Livingston has had to withstand, Grover said it should not surprise anyone that Livingston has made it back.

In addition to the strength-training program that Grover has him on, Livingston is getting his fill of basketball, playing in high-level games with approximately 20-25 other NBA players, including former Clipper swingmen Corey Maggette and Quentin Richardson.

The next order of business is for Livingston to find a team. He became an unrestricted free agent last month, when the Clippers renounced their rights to him. Prior to that, the Clippers declined to extend Livingston a qualifying offer of at least $5.8 million.

It is almost certain that Livingston won’t return to the Clippers, who have three veteran point guards on their roster - Baron Davis, Jason Hart and Jason Williams.

A possible destination could be the Miami Heat, which had shakey point guard play last season and have not solidified that position yet this summer.

And what about the Lakers, who don’t have anyone on their roster with the court vision and floor generalship abilities possessed by Livingston?

Livingston’ agent, Henry Thomas, is attending the Beijing Olympics at the moment but he is sure to have dialogue going on with a number of NBA general managers upon his return.
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fly boy
08-24-2008, 12:56 AM
i say we could atleast take a look at the guy i mean if grover can get wade back into form he can for sure get livingston back into form and he's still young so why not

DJiC
08-24-2008, 02:08 AM
hey if livingston can look as good as dwade take a chance on him..hell id take a chance on him now rather than let another team snag him later this guy will be great for us

AIMelo=KillaDUO
08-24-2008, 03:25 AM
From:http://lakers.freedomblogging.com/2008/08/22/the-work-is-paying-off/

The 18 months of long, arduous and often painful rehabilitation work that guard Shaun Livingston has put in, seems to be paying off.

Not only is the Clippers’ former first-round draft pick playing regularly in full-court, five-on-five pickup games at noted personal trainer Tim Grover’s Attack Athletics private facility in Chicago but Grover said hardly a day goes by when the 22-year old Livingston is not on the premises.

“He’s here five to six days a week, working out,” Grover said via telephone Friday morning. “I won’t go into any detail regarding what he’s doing but I’ll say this, by the first day of training camp, he’ll be ready.”

Not withstanding the severity of the injury that Livingston suffered to his left knee Feb. 26, 2007, the extensive surgery that renowned Alabama-based orthopedic surgeon James Andrews had to perform and the long recovery that Livingston has had to withstand, Grover said it should not surprise anyone that Livingston has made it back.

In addition to the strength-training program that Grover has him on, Livingston is getting his fill of basketball, playing in high-level games with approximately 20-25 other NBA players, including former Clipper swingmen Corey Maggette and Quentin Richardson.

The next order of business is for Livingston to find a team. He became an unrestricted free agent last month, when the Clippers renounced their rights to him. Prior to that, the Clippers declined to extend Livingston a qualifying offer of at least $5.8 million.

It is almost certain that Livingston won’t return to the Clippers, who have three veteran point guards on their roster - Baron Davis, Jason Hart and Jason Williams.

A possible destination could be the Miami Heat, which had shakey point guard play last season and have not solidified that position yet this summer.

And what about the Lakers, who don’t have anyone on their roster with the court vision and floor generalship abilities possessed by Livingston?

Livingston’ agent, Henry Thomas, is attending the Beijing Olympics at the moment but he is sure to have dialogue going on with a number of NBA general managers upon his return.
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Who tha H3ll is Tim Grover? what does this hafta do with tha Denver Nuggets? :shrug:

DenButsu
08-24-2008, 04:42 AM
Who tha H3ll is Tim Grover? what does this hafta do with tha Denver Nuggets? :shrug:

The relevance to the Nuggets is that some fans are pushing for us to sign Livingston. For them, this is really encouraging news.

As to "who's Tim Grover?"... according to hoopsking (http://www.hoopsking.com/hoopsStore/store/SupportMaterial/BB-0459_meet_tim_grover.htm) (a site I know nothing about):


Meet Tim Grover



There is no trainer as highly regarded in NBA circles as Tim Grover. The only athletes he works with are professional. While you may not be a professional athlete you can benefit from Tim's techniques through his JUMP ATTACK program which can add 8" - 12" inches to your vertical leap. The JUMP ATTACK program can also help increase your quickness, speed, and strength.
Tim's Bio

Known as "Trainer to the NBA Stars" and as one of the top trainers in the world, TIM S. GROVER has spoken to audiences all over the world, and is known as a master at motivating individuals in all aspects of life, business & sports.

Mr. Grover received a Bachelor of Science Degree in Kinesiology and a Master's Degree in Exercise Science from the University of Illinois, Chicago. Tim is also licensed to teach by the Illinois Board of Education.

As a former NCAA Division 1 basketball player, Mr. Grover is widely recognized for his understanding and success in the mental and physical discipline of professional athletes. Additionally, Mr. Grover is the inventor of the HOOPMATE™ basketball practice equipment, currently being used by NBA players and teams.

Tim has been published extensively in his field, and has hosted his own radio show in the Chicago area. Mr. Grover has also written a book called JUMP ATTACK, The Ultimate Program on How To Jump Higher and be More Explosive.

Tim currently serves as the President of A.T.T.A.C.K. ATHLETICS INC., an elite sports performance entity. The following are a sampling of Tim's long time clients: Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Charles Barkley, Hakeem Olajuwon, Juwan Howard, Ron Harper, Michael Finley, Alex Rodriguez, Cory Maggette, Darius Miles, Quentin Richardson and Marcus Fizer.

fly boy
08-24-2008, 04:54 AM
yeah i know nothing about the site neither lol from hoopsworld it took me there

AIMelo=KillaDUO
08-25-2008, 12:22 AM
The relevance to the Nuggets is that some fans are pushing for us to sign Livingston. For them, this is really encouraging news.

As to "who's Tim Grover?"... according to hoopsking (http://www.hoopsking.com/hoopsStore/store/SupportMaterial/BB-0459_meet_tim_grover.htm) (a site I know nothing about):


Sooo just cuz some guy talked to Shaun Livingston this makes nuggets fans happy? :confused:

DenButsu
08-25-2008, 12:44 AM
Sooo just cuz some guy talked to Shaun Livingston this makes nuggets fans happy? :confused:

The recent history of Shaun Livingston threads in the Nuggets forum:

Shaun Livingston (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230919)

Denver might want to look at livingston (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240045)

Shaun Livingston's rights were just renounced (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243884)

Livingston Update!!! (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244589)

Livingston Update Pt.2!!! (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257647)

Tim Grover Talks Livingston (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263452)

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If you want to know why some Nuggets fans are on the Livingston bandwagon, read through all of those and get yourself caught up.

As for me, I'm not so much because his injury still scares the hell out of me (so if you want to know why some Nugs fans are happy about this you should ask the ones who are really pushing for it) and I still feel about 85% sure that once he returns to action it will quickly be reaggravated and he'll rot on our bench for the entire season. That's why I've been saying if we can pay him the minimum, or certainly no more than the BAE, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to it because his upside is so strong if he does return to health, but the risk is just so high.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
08-25-2008, 12:53 AM
Yea I've read all of those... I know you've seen me around before. I'm all for signing Shaun Livingston.

Your not listening to what I'm sayin tho.

I read that article, and it says NOTHING about the nuggets, and tha guy who spoke to Shaun also has NOTHING to do with tha nuggets... so why are Nuggets fans so happy to read this?? IM SO CONFUSED!!!!

AIMelo=KillaDUO
08-25-2008, 12:54 AM
The recent history of Shaun Livingston threads in the Nuggets forum:

Shaun Livingston (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230919)

Denver might want to look at livingston (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240045)

Shaun Livingston's rights were just renounced (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243884)

Livingston Update!!! (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244589)

Livingston Update Pt.2!!! (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257647)

Tim Grover Talks Livingston (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263452)

--------------------------------------

If you want to know why some Nuggets fans are on the Livingston bandwagon, read through all of those and get yourself caught up.

As for me, I'm not so much because his injury still scares the hell out of me (so if you want to know why some Nugs fans are happy about this you should ask the ones who are really pushing for it) and I still feel about 85% sure that once he returns to action it will quickly be reaggravated and he'll rot on our bench for the entire season. That's why I've been saying if we can pay him the minimum, or certainly no more than the BAE, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to it because his upside is so strong if he does return to health, but the risk is just so high.


Yea I've read all of those... I know you've seen me around before. I'm all for signing Shaun Livingston.

Your not listening to what I'm sayin tho.

I read that article, and it says NOTHING about the nuggets, and tha guy who spoke to Shaun also has NOTHING to do with tha nuggets... so why are Nuggets fans so happy to read this?? IM SO CONFUSED!!!!

DenButsu
08-25-2008, 01:13 AM
Yea I've read all of those... I know you've seen me around before. I'm all for signing Shaun Livingston.

Your not listening to what I'm sayin tho.

I read that article, and it says NOTHING about the nuggets, and tha guy who spoke to Shaun also has NOTHING to do with tha nuggets... so why are Nuggets fans so happy to read this?? IM SO CONFUSED!!!!

It's just an update on his training and physical condition and health that makes it sound like he's going in a very positive direction. So that makes the prospect of the Nuggets signing him look better.

In the "Should Denver sign Livingston?" discussion, this is ammo for the "yes" side.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
08-25-2008, 01:57 AM
It's just an update on his training and physical condition and health that makes it sound like he's going in a very positive direction. So that makes the prospect of the Nuggets signing him look better.

In the "Should Denver sign Livingston?" discussion, this is ammo for the "yes" side.


OH!!! OK. that makes much more sense now. thank u sir.

DenButsu
08-25-2008, 04:08 AM
OH!!! OK. that makes much more sense now. thank u sir.

:cheers:

TheFuture6
08-25-2008, 04:33 AM
Steve Hess > Tim Grover.

I'm still a part of the "no to Livingston" bandwagon anyways.

DJiC
08-25-2008, 01:58 PM
livingston coming back from that serious injury is still better than carter and atkins...kmon atkins messed up his hernia haha hes old and carter well hes even older so livingston is better than both of them combined

C-Dub
08-25-2008, 06:29 PM
i think atkins would be good for us off the bench though, he isnt terrible, last season shouldnt really count for him cuz he was hurt, but i agree, livingston is way better.

fly boy
08-27-2008, 02:07 AM
yeah atkins and livingston is perfect but i have no clue to why we signed carter he's trash we need to get rid of him sum how