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-Lavigne43-
08-22-2008, 07:58 PM
J.D. Drew has been diagnosed with a herniated disk in his back.
Drew, who has a history of back problems, hasn't played since leaving Sunday's game with lower back tightness. He was in the original lineup posted for Friday, but was scratched and sent for an MRI. According to the Providence Journal the Red Sox are expected to release further details on his status Friday evening, but Drew seems likely to end up on the disabled list. Jacoby Ellsbury is starting in right field against the Blue Jays and Brian Giles' decision to veto a deal to Boston suddenly looms large.

roto

Sucks

Towelie
08-22-2008, 08:10 PM
First DL stint for Drew in a Sox uni.

coltsfan11
08-22-2008, 08:38 PM
That's to bad, he's been having such a great year for the Red Sox to. Not only do I like what he brings when he comes to bat, but I love the way he plays the outfield. He knows how to judge the fly balls that come off the wall, so he won't let many runners advance on an error, and he is very good at making running catches. I'm sure Coco Crisp will probably get the time that he misses so they aren't going to be missing out on to much of what he brings, but yes he will be missed just because of his presence. I hope he comes back soon.

Celts22
08-22-2008, 08:46 PM
ESPNs article says Drew doesnt believe he will need a stint on the DL...

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-22-2008, 08:49 PM
Ugh, this would mean more Coco... :bang:

Tragedy
08-23-2008, 12:01 AM
Herniated disk = Ends season/some of next year, no? I've heard of hernidated disks that took a hell of a long time to fix up.

Snipeshow
08-23-2008, 12:10 AM
That hurts my fantasy team nicely :(

PapelbonLester
08-23-2008, 12:12 AM
this sux. maybe its time to bring up chris carter. he's a beast at the plate. id rather see someone with some pop. he's hittin .293 with 24 homers in triple a. i say we give him a shot coco's terrible at the plate.

Run Gardner Run
08-23-2008, 12:22 AM
Doesnt matter. It seems like the Red Sox are unfazed by any injury that comes their way..

Tragedy
08-23-2008, 12:23 AM
this sux. maybe its time to bring up chris carter. he's a beast at the plate. id rather see someone with some pop. he's hittin .293 with 24 homers in triple a. i say we give him a shot coco's terrible at the plate.
And where does Carter play? 1B? That still wouldn't solve the OF problem. Carter in the OF would be brutal.

Crucis
08-23-2008, 12:39 AM
IIRC, doesn't Bailey also play the OF?

I don't know why people keep wanting to call up Carter. All indications are that his defense is totally brutal. Seems like the only position he's good for is DH.

Wake's Fastball
08-23-2008, 02:22 AM
Carter's probably not coming up to play the outfield, especially not after we just brought in Lane. I've got an unfortunate feeling we may see alot of Lane if Drew goes on the DL.

knittingmill
08-23-2008, 04:58 AM
Is Reddick ready?

lil'papi
08-23-2008, 08:42 AM
Gee what a surprise. I'm totally shocked he has been a stalwart all year. He is having his best year in a Sox uniform and now this.
His 64 RBI are really going to stall this offense. :yawn:

coltsfan11
08-23-2008, 10:29 AM
No prospects are going to come up and take Drew's spot. It's going to be Crisp. I know all you fans don't like him, but he's good defensively and he can get a hit every now and then.

Tragedy
08-23-2008, 10:32 AM
No prospects are going to come up and take Drew's spot. It's going to be Crisp. I know all you fans don't like him, but he's good defensively and he can get a hit every now and then.
Yeah, it'll absolutely be Crisp.

September 1 is coming up soon, so we can bring up a boatload of guys to fill the bench spots.

yaowowrocket11
08-23-2008, 10:55 AM
Damn. Very true, freaking Giles vetoed a trade!

If the Red Sox don't feel comfortable with Crisp, they need to make a trade with Baltimore for Aubrey Huff.

cocossox
08-23-2008, 09:22 PM
god i hope not what else can go wrong, sorry dont mean to be all doom & gloom but this season is slipping away & I don't see a way to fix this right now we have major problems is all 3 areas imo lineup SP & BP what a mess sorry :speechless: :cry:

cocossox
08-23-2008, 09:27 PM
Damn. Very true, freaking Giles vetoed a trade!

If the Red Sox don't feel comfortable with Crisp, they need to make a trade with Baltimore for Aubrey Huff.I'd love to see Huff here right about now.

DaaBoTownSox
08-24-2008, 02:55 AM
roto

Sucks

Just get's worse & worse doesn't it?

I guess if there's a positive, it's that it's now and not right before the playoffs or during them.

cocossox
08-24-2008, 09:34 AM
If JD lands on the DL, Sheffield? to play LF & move Bay to RF I'd seriously consider that imo.

Tragedy
08-24-2008, 10:25 AM
If JD lands on the DL, Sheffield? to play LF & move Bay to RF I'd seriously consider that imo.
Absolutely not.

He's owed (Sheffield) $14 million next year. You want that on this team?

Osiagledknarf
08-24-2008, 08:09 PM
Sheffield...haha...what a horrible decision. He's a douche bag and way too expensive. Our REALISTIC options are limited at this point, unfortunately. I think if you can somehow pull off a Huff deal, okay. That might not be the easiest thing to do in the first place though. I don't know...it does seem like a lot is going wrong.

You had to figure this was going to happen with Drew at some point though...he's battled injuries his whole career, so it shouldn't be a surprise. It's kinda the reason I am so opposed to long term contracts to big name players (especially Boras clients)...or any player for that matter.

I love J.D. Drew and the way he plays...but where do you get off giving a 5 year contract to a 31 year old player with injury history? The best thing is, we've got him for the next 3 years and the injuries only figure to get more common and more serious! Awesome!

There comes a point though when enough stuff goes wrong you have to just accept it instead of freaking out and rushing to get some stop-gap solution that ends up screwing you in the long run. Sheffield would be exactly that. There's not much out there...the Sox are going to have to make it work with what they have, realistically. Guys just have to pick it up and hope for a return to health.

Osiagledknarf
08-24-2008, 08:10 PM
You had to figure this was going to happen with Drew at some point though...he's battled injuries his whole career, so it shouldn't be a surprise. It's kinda the reason I am so opposed to long term contracts to big name players (especially Boras clients)...or any player for that matter.


It's also why I can't stand that Sabathia idea, haha.

Nighthawk
08-25-2008, 01:33 AM
Sox imo can get by and still make the playoffs even without Drew. Pedroia, Youk, Papi, Bay, Lowrie. All hitting nicely. Hopefully he comes back fully healthy. not to soon. i do like how the sox FO are looking to still stay active and bring in bodies to help get this thing done.

lil'papi
08-25-2008, 08:18 AM
Sheffield...haha...what a horrible decision. He's a douche bag and way too expensive. Our REALISTIC options are limited at this point, unfortunately. I think if you can somehow pull off a Huff deal, okay. That might not be the easiest thing to do in the first place though. I don't know...it does seem like a lot is going wrong.

You had to figure this was going to happen with Drew at some point though...he's battled injuries his whole career, so it shouldn't be a surprise. It's kinda the reason I am so opposed to long term contracts to big name players (especially Boras clients)...or any player for that matter.

I love J.D. Drew and the way he plays...but where do you get off giving a 5 year contract to a 31 year old player with injury history? The best thing is, we've got him for the next 3 years and the injuries only figure to get more common and more serious! Awesome!

There comes a point though when enough stuff goes wrong you have to just accept it instead of freaking out and rushing to get some stop-gap solution that ends up screwing you in the long run. Sheffield would be exactly that. There's not much out there...the Sox are going to have to make it work with what they have, realistically. Guys just have to pick it up and hope for a return to health.


Glad you said that. Some people can't see the forest through the tree's.

Lowell too.

CC Sabathia hasn't been injured. But to an extent I concur. None of these 6-7-8 yr deals and 20mil. He won't get that anyway. Nobody but NYY can even think like that. We could have a hand in driving it there. Also the Brewers are abusing him knowing they have no chance of resigning him. He can plan on 120 pitches and complete games from here on out.:p

Aren't you advocating giving Beckett and extension? Or no.....same thing long term.

PapelbonLester
08-25-2008, 12:49 PM
of course he gets hurt right before the last month of the season. Crisp did hit the game tying homer yesterday and has played pretty well lately. i accually like crisp at the moment(cross my fingers). i just wish him or ellsbury had more pop.

athlete9393
08-25-2008, 05:53 PM
this sux. maybe its time to bring up chris carter. he's a beast at the plate. id rather see someone with some pop. he's hittin .293 with 24 homers in triple a. i say we give him a shot coco's terrible at the plate.

he hit a homerun last night.

PapelbonLester
08-25-2008, 05:55 PM
haha i know. you no what im saying. 20 hr. potential

RedSoxtober
08-26-2008, 08:18 AM
The Red Sox are hoping J.D. Drew's back improves by today; otherwise he could be headed for the disabled list. Francona did not rule out that possibility over the weekend. Drew has been on the shelf since injuring his back Aug. 17 while backing up Ellsbury on a play in the outfield. Drew was removed from that game and has not played since. He had an MRI in Toronto and could barely walk all weekend. The Sox wanted to wait until today to make a decision, hoping Drew would be ready for the Yankees. If Drew can't go, Jason Lane would be a possibility to be promoted from Pawtucket.

Source: Boston Globe

lil'papi
08-26-2008, 08:44 AM
Last night they said JD Drew has missed 45 games due to injury the last two years but never on the DL. They also mentioned he won't go on the DL because of contract wording.
Several of the issues he had were in his contract and if he goes DL they can opt out of the deal.

I found it interesting.

I remember he had some clauses for injury but don't remember which body parts?

Osiagledknarf
08-26-2008, 09:36 AM
Aren't you advocating giving Beckett and extension? Or no.....same thing long term.

Ehhh, I'm really conservative when it comes to extensions. I think I remember the post I made that would lead you to think I was advocating that...but I was just arguing the merits of NOT going after Sabathia, haha.

I think it's a little too early to talk about extensions with Beckett...to my understanding we have him through 2009 with an option for 2010. I think I am in the minority in that I actually do NOT think he is having such a terrible year this year. So, if he has a decent year in '09 as well, then talk to him and see if you can work out something reasonable. He's the same age as Sabathia...and while he seems to have that blister problem under control, it seems little things always tend to pop up here and there...so that's a concern, but it's also the way it is with pitchers. I like his physical make up alot more than Sabathia's though, I think he'll age better. Beckett's also a post-season god, so there's that to consider as well. I'm definitely not in favor of giving him 5 years...no way.

If you can get him to accept a 4 year deal after 2009, which would take him through until he's about 32-33...okay...okay. If we didn't have Beckett in the first place, I think I would say the same thing about Sabathia. My objection to Sabathia is based in part on my being turned off by the money and years he'll want as well as health considerations that concern me (namely the way the Brewers are using him and the weight/age breakdown dynamic). But I object mostly based on the fact that we have a solid rotation already and I don't think it would be worth the investment to get Sabathia.

lil'papi
08-26-2008, 10:22 AM
See that's where we differ I don't believe our rotation is that good.
Do a breakdown.

Dicek is an accident waiting to happen he can win 17 or lose 17 depending purely on his luck in a given year.
Wake is well old and showing signs of it.
Beckett has this elbow deal and that alone concerns me.
Lester needs another year of being solid.
Masterson seems better suited as a relief guy.
Buchholz nobody knows?
Colon he is a stop gap measure at best.
Bowden again to early to tell.
Schilling, hahahahaha

I'd like one more solid proven guy. Even a limb guy , like say, a Burnett. He would get used less here and seems to be over his maladies. He would have an extensive injury clause though.

I am not sold on our staff long term. While we have solid prospects to come up they are still very much unproven. We need another proven guy.

Can we slide by without one, not sure. NYY are going to spend like a Dubai prince this year.TB has a nice staff and surely they will be a problem again next yr.

I love pitching, the more, the merrier.

Osiagledknarf
08-26-2008, 11:15 AM
Well, either way I don't think Sabathia is your guy. Here's my breakdown:

Beckett does make me a little nervous with the way new injury concerns pop up just when you've managed to fix the last one. However, his mound presence is great, his stuff is great...and his record doesn't necessarily reflect how well he's pitched this year and he's lost some close ones based on poor run support. The ERA is a little high, but certainly not terrible.

Matsuzaka is a stress test, definitely. But we have him for four more years and I really think at some point he's going to be able to get control and cut down on the BB's, so I feel good about that. He's very difficult to hit already, and has very active movement on all of his pitches.

I have high hopes for Lester and even if he pitches exactly the same next year as he is this year, that would be excellent...but I think it's a good bet he'll be better. He seems to be doing all the right things, his K's are up, his control is improving, and he's working deep...he's legit.

Yep, Wakefield is old...it'll be interesting to see what happens with that in the offseason. Looking at his numbers though...not too shabby, and he still gives you a good chance to win when he's out there. He'll probably be more than serviceable next year as well.

I disagree with you on how Masterson projects...looking over his 9 starts this year I am very impressed. I think he could be an excellent starter who could log alot of innings and and whose sinkerball could jive very well with the defensively strong Red Sox infield.

Buchholz is going to require some patience apparently, but I think the sky's the limit. He had a really good work ethic last offseason and there's no reason to suspect he won't do that again. He deserves another chance at a regular spot in the rotation. Something's obviously going on right now...they'll get it figured out.

That gives you 6 solid options, at least 3 of which I think will be very strong. Plus you have Bowden. So that's at least 7 in-house options right there. Everyone is going to get hammered now and then...even Sabathia had some 8 run games earlier this year!

I think if you really want to add another pitcher to the mix, cool...you're right...definitely the more, the merrier. I just don't think it has to be on the scale of Sabathia. It's just too much outlay for me. There's some decent names out there as far as free agents go, and who knows how the trade market shapes up in the winter...the Giants almost moved Lincecum last winter for Rios...so you never know (no, I'm not suggesting the Red Sox trrade for Tim Lincecum or that he'll even be available...I'm just saying, unexpected things open up over the winter). I just think Sabathia would be an over-commitment with not that much comparative return as opposed to some of the other options.

I think based on what we have, and the potential smaller scalle grabs on the free agent and trade market...the Sox can put together a very formidable rotation without having to sign Sheets or Sabathia. Spend that money on the bullpen.

RedSoxtober
08-26-2008, 12:59 PM
Last night they said JD Drew has missed 45 games due to injury the last two years but never on the DL. They also mentioned he won't go on the DL because of contract wording.
Several of the issues he had were in his contract and if he goes DL they can opt out of the deal.

I found it interesting.

I remember he had some clauses for injury but don't remember which body parts?


$9M of 2011 salary will be deferred at 1% interest unless Drew plays 500 games from 2007 to 2010 or 375 games from 2008 to 2010
Boston may opt out of either of final two seasons if Drew:
spends 35 days on the disabled list in either 2009 or 2010 with injury related to pre-existing right shoulder condition, or
finishes 2009 or 2010 season on the disabled list and cannot play outfield the following season

MVPOrtiz201
08-26-2008, 04:51 PM
NEW YORK -- It appears the Red Sox have placed outfielder J.D. Drew on the disabled list and recalled Joe Thurston from Pawtucket.

Drew has not played the last six games due to a herniated disk.


Link (http://www.beloblog.com/ProJo_Blogs/SoxBlog/2008/08/drew-headed-to.html)
Source:projo.com

RedSoxtober
08-26-2008, 06:52 PM
While we said earlier that Chris Smith has been optioned to Pawtucket to make room for Tim Wakefield, that isn't technically true. Smith was optioned, but Joe Thurston took his spot on the 25-man roster. Thurston was purchased from Pawtucket, and was also placed on the 40-man roster. To make room on the 40-man, Bartolo Colon was moved to the 60-day disabled list. (That doesn't actually make a difference for Colon, as he's been on long enough that he can be taken off at any time.)

Wakefield has not yet been activated. That means there will be another move before tonight's first pitch.


Source: Boston Globe

The Intimidator
08-26-2008, 09:54 PM
Drew's stint on the DL could be a short one. He hasn't played in 8 days, so he is eligible to be activated in a week.

Osiagledknarf
08-27-2008, 12:29 AM
Yeah it's retroactive to about a week ago, August 18th...I think. I don't think there is any reason to panic yet. We've got Kotsay now so let Drew take his time and heal up, and get him back up and playing when you can. He'll contribute to the pennant race in someway still.

RedSoxtober
08-27-2008, 08:39 AM
The news on Drew is mixed. An herniated disk is what killed Nixon's career so there is no guarantee that he'll be ready to go in a week. He claims to be starting to feel better, though....


As for Drew, he saw a spine specialist in New York yesterday morning after having an MRI in Toronto over the weekend. He also had X-rays.

Before Drew was placed on the DL, he said the stiffness was getting better, and that he believed he was headed in the right direction, but the team had to make the move so it could activate Tim Wakefield.

Drew's assignment is retroactive to Aug. 18. He came out of a game on the 17th after injuring himself backing up Jacoby Ellsbury in the field.

Source: Boston Globe

On another note, the Sox have not yet completed the deal (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6430789&postcount=52) for Kotsay. They are still talking to Atlanta but nothing has been finalized. I think that he'd be a fine addition and certainly like him in CF with Ellsbury in RF if Drew is out but it's worth keeping in mind that he has spent time on the DL with back issues himself.

lil'papi
08-27-2008, 10:19 AM
He isn't reliable, end of story. Get the disc clipped off season ......