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Dalionking
08-22-2008, 11:02 AM
Posted by cmundy@citpat.com August 20, 2008 23:48PM


The last few nights, Fox Sports Net Detroit has been showing a list of eight potential pitchers for the 2009 starting rotation.

While it shows there is some potential depth, the list also is full of question marks.

Here is the list with a comment on each pitcher for 2009:

* Jeremy Bonderman: Obviously, if he's healthy, there is no reason he shouldn't be in the rotation. But he missed most of this year, and in the process did not have a chance to work on his change-up. Bonderman needs another pitch to take the next step, and as each year passes it becomes more possible that he won't ever reach his potential.

* Freddy Garcia: This is a reach, a real dart. Garcia appears to be done because of his health. The only positive thing here is that sometimes the guys who really don't figure into a team's plans sometimes come on and surprise. If Garcia can regain his health by next spring, he could be a surprise, but he's someone who can't be counted upon at all.

* Justin Verlander: Still the ace of the staff, but he needs to develop more consistency. But he's the best the Tigers have.

* Kenny Rogers: It's hard to imagin him returning to the team in 2009, unless it's as the pitching coach to replace Chuck Hernandez.

* Armando Galarraga: He's earned a spot in the 2009 rotation, but it also will be hard for him to match his rookie season. Expect Galarraga to slip a bit next year.

* Dontrelle Willis: He's young, and he's left-handed, and he has had a lot of success in the majors. But can he throw strikes consistently? If he can, he can be a big contributor to the team next season, but like Garcia, he's somebody who can't be counted upon at all.

* Nate Robertson: It's becoming more and more apparent that Robertson just doesn't have what it takes to be part of a championship rotation. He gives up too many big innings, and in a perfect world the Tigers would have five better starters than Robertson going into next season.

* Zach Miner: Here's a real wild card. He seems to pitch better as a starter than as a reliever, but he still does not come across as a real asset for a full season. He's a fine No. 6 guy who can step in to replace an injured starter, but he's not the guy the Tigers want to have in their rotation to start the season.

stanpapi
08-22-2008, 12:14 PM
Well, you've got Verlander, Bonderman, and Gallaraga. That's a good top 3. Side in Miner as your number 6 man, maybe even a 5, and you've got two spots to fill. You can't depend on either the D-train or Garcia, but if you get one of them going half-decently, you're only looking for one more guy...Until the injuries start kicking in.

Bondomania
08-23-2008, 12:51 PM
I am still not sold on Verlander as the ace. He really needs to take that next step if he is going to be... I still really think that if they want to make a run they are going to have to sign someone, even if that is just a guy like Derek Lowe or John Garland.. we need someone who is tough, both those guys fit the mold, and both have postseason experience. I like Garland, he is in that 4th starter mold.. not a strikeout guy, but has a nasty sinker and knows the white sox pretty well

mark1125
08-24-2008, 09:38 AM
I am still not sold on Verlander as the ace. He really needs to take that next step if he is going to be... I still really think that if they want to make a run they are going to have to sign someone, even if that is just a guy like Derek Lowe or John Garland.. we need someone who is tough, both those guys fit the mold, and both have postseason experience. I like Garland, he is in that 4th starter mold.. not a strikeout guy, but has a nasty sinker and knows the white sox pretty well

I am alway nervous about siging a 2nd tier pitcher like a Lowe or Garland. As we all know, starting pitching is overpriced especially when dealing with a non-ace type. I would be willing to take a shot as long as it isn't a long term deal and they can shed some other contracts.

pistons1987
08-25-2008, 07:26 PM
not sold on the rotation at all. the offense will be good but we need to trade for a solid 4th or 5th starter and we can remain competitive next year

stanpapi
08-25-2008, 09:49 PM
The offense is not good as it is, relies way too much on the long ball.

cantstopthee
08-25-2008, 09:50 PM
wait verlander is clearly an ace


im done

Bondomania
08-28-2008, 10:24 AM
wait verlander is clearly an ace


im done

Good thing our ace gave up 6 runs in 6 IP again, and got outpitched by the Indians number 2 pitcher.. What makes Verlander clearly an ace? He has poor control, can't limit his pitches and is usually out by the 5th or 6th, isn't a stopper in the rotation (last night, looking to avoid the sweep, and what does he do?? he bury's his head), doesn't strike out a ton, walks a bunch and he has an ERA around 5... yea.. the guy is clearly an ace... dumb

redwings1
08-29-2008, 04:38 PM
Pitching Rotation: 2009
1. verlander
2. gallaraga
3. bonderman
4. willis
5. garcia