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mrblisterdundee
08-21-2008, 07:36 PM
They're both small forwards. They're both 6-8. They are only six pounds apart in weight. In addition Danny Granger is three years older and has played one more season. This is one of the closest player comparisons ever.
Last season, Danny Granger averaged 19.6 points, 6.1 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1 block, and 1.2 steals per game.
Rudy Gay averaged 20.1 points, 6.2 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, and 1.4 steals per game.

My vote goes to Rudy Gay, as he is younger, less experienced, and averaging slightly better numbers in the majority of categories. Who do you think is and/or will be better?

AIMelo=KillaDUO
08-21-2008, 07:38 PM
I like this comparrison... I think Rudy Gay is better right now... and when both of there careers are over, i think Gay will still be better, kinda like a Chris Paul DWill comparison. but thats a whole 'nother argument

MiamiHeat
08-21-2008, 07:38 PM
COMPARISONS SECTION
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=179

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harris2carter
08-21-2008, 07:43 PM
Rudy gay is better Granger is like a wack version of reggie miller

mrblisterdundee
08-21-2008, 07:43 PM
COMPARISONS SECTION
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=179

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If I post these threads in the general section, they get more views. I'm an attention whore.

MiamiHeat
08-21-2008, 07:48 PM
If I post these threads in the general section, they get more views. I'm an attention whore.

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dre1990
08-21-2008, 07:52 PM
yuo should have a poll, but i would pick rudy gay, that boy got talent

BleedGreen1014
08-21-2008, 07:55 PM
these 2 are some of the most underrated players in the league.
im gonna give the edge to granger jsut because he has a better team around him and more to work with but memephis will be turning it around so its close buti like granger more

mrblisterdundee
08-21-2008, 07:57 PM
yuo should have a poll, but i would pick rudy gay, that boy got talent

I don't know how to create a poll. Today was my first as a registered member.

_Sn1P3r_
08-21-2008, 08:08 PM
There's a comparisons thread just to let you know. And welcome.

To answer your question, I would choose Gay over Granger.

avsman05
08-21-2008, 08:18 PM
i'm going to be a part of team gay on this one.

Jay22Redd
08-21-2008, 08:19 PM
I also choose Gay over Granger

knicks1214
08-21-2008, 08:25 PM
Rudy Gay in a heartbeat...he's going to be an all star for many years. He has humungous upside and he has a young talented (somewhat) team. He's going to win a few championships...unless if he is the next T-Mac...that would be sad.

bogdanrom
08-21-2008, 08:26 PM
Wow I didn't realize how good Rudy Gay is. Both of them are one of the most underrated players in the league. Right now they're both pretty even. They have almost the exact stats.
Rudy Gay- 20.1 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 2.0 apg, 1.4 spg, 1.0 bpg 46% FG, 35% 3FG
Danny Granger- 19.6 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 2.1 apg, 1.2 bpg, 1.0 bpg 45%FG, 40% 3FG
The difference is that Rudy is 3 years younger. In the future Rudy will be better than Granger. IMO Rudy Gay needs a jumpshot and he can be one of the best players in the NBA.

Playoff Magic
08-21-2008, 08:26 PM
rudy gay without a doubt

MiamiHeat
08-21-2008, 08:27 PM
i'm going to be a part of team gay on this one.

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But yes i'll pick Rudy on this one both underrated but Rudy gets my vote :up:

18colts29
08-21-2008, 09:05 PM
I pick Danny Granger. What is the real question?

IndyRealist
08-21-2008, 09:16 PM
Though their per game stats are very similar, two that jump out in particular are free throw percentage (Gay 78.5%, Granger 85.2%) and 3pt percentage (Gay 34.6%, Granger 40.4%)

If you look at two measures of a player's performance, win score and wins produced, Granger is clearly ahead (Gay 791 and .092, Granger 967 and .120 respectively). There is a discussion of win score and wins produced here (http://dberri.wordpress.com/2006/05/21/simple-models-of-player-performance/). The NBA's PER (player efficiency rating) also has Granger ahead (+18.41 vs +18.79) though it's not as pronounced as the wins produced.

Plus, Gay plays on the Grizzlies. I mean, come on, how many careers has that team killed? Anybody remember that Shareef Abdur-Raheem was basically a 20 point, 9 rebound, 3 assist player for 8 solid years? Nope, because he spent those years with the Grizzlies (and Atlanta). I'd wait to size Rudy for championship rings until he's out of Memphis.

Granger, all the way.

stevefrancis
08-21-2008, 09:24 PM
ill go with rudy cuz im feelin gay.

superkegger
08-21-2008, 09:27 PM
This is a tough choice, but I'll take Gay. It's damn close though.

BRADfromOZ
08-21-2008, 09:38 PM
Granger. You can't go past how good he is from outside.

mrblisterdundee
08-21-2008, 10:53 PM
Though their per game stats are very similar, two that jump out in particular are free throw percentage (Gay 78.5%, Granger 85.2%) and 3pt percentage (Gay 34.6%, Granger 40.4%)

If you look at two measures of a player's performance, win score and wins produced, Granger is clearly ahead (Gay 791 and .092, Granger 967 and .120 respectively). There is a discussion of win score and wins produced here (http://dberri.wordpress.com/2006/05/21/simple-models-of-player-performance/). The NBA's PER (player efficiency rating) also has Granger ahead (+18.41 vs +18.79) though it's not as pronounced as the wins produced.

Plus, Gay plays on the Grizzlies. I mean, come on, how many careers has that team killed? Anybody remember that Shareef Abdur-Raheem was basically a 20 point, 9 rebound, 3 assist player for 8 solid years? Nope, because he spent those years with the Grizzlies (and Atlanta). I'd wait to size Rudy for championship rings until he's out of Memphis.

Granger, all the way.

The grizzlies kill careers? When did Indiana win an NBA championship? Reggie Miller almost tried to come back with another team just to have a chance at glory. Jermaine O'neal never had a chance at winning it all in Indiana. The Pacers regularly appear as destitute as Indiana itself.

Vegasguy80
08-21-2008, 11:01 PM
Danny Granger hands down. He is an all around player and has been even in college. He has been a nice surprise in the NBA.

Vegasguy80
08-21-2008, 11:02 PM
Though their per game stats are very similar, two that jump out in particular are free throw percentage (Gay 78.5%, Granger 85.2%) and 3pt percentage (Gay 34.6%, Granger 40.4%)

If you look at two measures of a player's performance, win score and wins produced, Granger is clearly ahead (Gay 791 and .092, Granger 967 and .120 respectively). There is a discussion of win score and wins produced here (http://dberri.wordpress.com/2006/05/21/simple-models-of-player-performance/). The NBA's PER (player efficiency rating) also has Granger ahead (+18.41 vs +18.79) though it's not as pronounced as the wins produced.

Plus, Gay plays on the Grizzlies. I mean, come on, how many careers has that team killed? Anybody remember that Shareef Abdur-Raheem was basically a 20 point, 9 rebound, 3 assist player for 8 solid years? Nope, because he spent those years with the Grizzlies (and Atlanta). I'd wait to size Rudy for championship rings until he's out of Memphis.

Granger, all the way.

Very well put. Welcome to the board. It is nice to see someone levelheaded joining. Most new people just come on and say ridiculous stuff.

pwest6
08-21-2008, 11:12 PM
The grizzlies kill careers? When did Indiana win an NBA championship? Reggie Miller almost tried to come back with another team just to have a chance at glory. Jermaine O'neal never had a chance at winning it all in Indiana. The Pacers regularly appear as destitute as Indiana itself.

A 61 win season in 2004 sounds like a pretty good chance to win a title. But hey, thats just me. The Pacers reguarly appear as destitute as Indiana itself?
Your basing this off of two losing seasons? Wow, this is great. The Pacers were one of the ELITE teams from 1993 to 2005 and all of a sudden they are being compared to Memphis?!!?!?

pwest6
08-21-2008, 11:15 PM
Anyway, Rudy has the potential to be a much better player than Granger. But, if you asked me right now I'd go with Danny.

dick butane
08-21-2008, 11:15 PM
Danny Granger hands down. He is an all around player and has been even in college. He has been a nice surprise in the NBA.

A lot of guys are all around players in college. That shouldn't be used as evidence of an NBA superiority.

knicks1214
08-21-2008, 11:28 PM
IF I remember correctly, the two best players in the NBA, and one of the best pf/centers didn't go to college...

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
08-21-2008, 11:42 PM
I like Granger, to me I see more of a complete game in him.

nygiants242
08-21-2008, 11:44 PM
hm wow this is really tough, great comparison!

I'd go with gay since he is younger and still has potential but then again so does granger.. this one is really tough

ahh.. i call it a tie

phillyphan4ever
08-21-2008, 11:52 PM
I love Gay, people. Hes an athletic freak, where Granger is more of a shooter. I'll take Gay anyday of the week.

SAVAGE CLAW
08-21-2008, 11:56 PM
Granger, more potential and better all around player, Gay is just another "I shoot whatever i have in my hands" Guy.

I Am Awesome-O
08-22-2008, 12:11 AM
Rudy Gay all the way. Granger is gonna be great, but Rudy has the talent and athleticism to have a Kobe Bryant type of career when it's all said and done. He just has a shot to be brilliant, plus he has the desire. He's the kind of guy you build a franchise around.

DopieB
08-22-2008, 12:11 AM
Rudy Gay is a great player, doesn't get the credit he deserves

phillyphan4ever
08-22-2008, 12:15 AM
Granger, more potential and better all around player, Gay is just another "I shoot whatever i have in my hands" Guy.

i think youre mixing up the two

SAVAGE CLAW
08-22-2008, 12:15 AM
Im eager to see how much time happens until Gay gets in trouble with OJ Mayo.

Tha Truth
08-22-2008, 12:23 AM
Gay

NYMetros
08-22-2008, 12:26 AM
I'm a big Gay guy so I'll take Rudy.

SAVAGE CLAW
08-22-2008, 12:40 AM
I'm a big Gay guy so I'll take Rudy.

That sounded "strange".

Wonder if Gays jerseys sell much.

Pity they traded Love.

Just imagine the Wings of memphis.

Gay Love.

phillyphan4ever
08-22-2008, 12:42 AM
he said that on purpose

NYMetros
08-22-2008, 09:52 AM
he said that on purpose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdNCN2-D0Yw :D

MiamiHeat
08-22-2008, 09:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdNCN2-D0Yw :D

:laugh:
he wanted to laugh so bad
"im not big gay guy"
:laugh2:

amare#1
08-23-2008, 04:23 AM
Rudy Gay and Rudy Gay. He's younger and seems to have much more potential.