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JordansBulls
08-20-2008, 11:17 PM
Is he a top 15? Top 20? Top 25 player?

:shrug:

superkegger
08-20-2008, 11:27 PM
Ok, so in the Mock someone said Joe Johnson and Vince weren't comparable. So here's my shortcut answer.

Last year Vince averaged 21.3 ppg, 6 rpg, 5.1 apg.
Last year Joe averaged 21.7 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5.8 apg.

Carter shot 45.6%
Joe shot 43.2 %

Carter from 3 was 35.9%
Joe from 3 was 38.1%

Carter had 1.2 spg
Joe had 1.0 spg

Vince had 2.4 topg
Joe had 2.7 topg

These are 07-08 stats where Vince is "washed up" and JJ is supposed to be a star on the rise. Not knocking JJ, love his game and think he will only get better. But its more to say that all the Carter haters are just homers or haters. Is Carter a bit of a prima dona? Yes, but show me a sg in this league who isn't. Are fans allured by the flash of Carter more than the substance? Yeah, but hes still a good talent. Don't knock on VC just cause you buy into the PSD hate for him.

Nets fan 93
08-20-2008, 11:33 PM
top 15. :D

Ph1lly Diehard
08-20-2008, 11:37 PM
Top 30.

Not going to name the players above him, but I feel he's top 30.

Top 25 I could possibly see, but anything lower is a no way for me.

CB4AB7VC15
08-20-2008, 11:41 PM
Same league as AI and Paul Pierce soo top 20

PurpleJesus
08-20-2008, 11:48 PM
Haha, that ultimatefail link on superkeggers page is hilarious

umm... i feel like i can name twenty better players than him at least, here it goes in no particular order...
Nash, CP3, Deron Williams, Kobe, Dirk, KG, Duncan, Melo, Lebron, Dwight, Amare, Pierce, Al Jefferson, joe johnson, josh howard, kevin martin, Chris Bosh, Richard Jefferson, Tracy McGrady, Baron Davis.

Thats from the top of the head, there are plenty of border line players as well such as Maggete, the Pistons starting 5, Caron Butler, and Antwan Jamison

still1ballin
08-20-2008, 11:53 PM
id say top 25 is pretty accurate

CB4AB7VC15
08-21-2008, 12:04 AM
Haha, that ultimatefail link on superkeggers page is hilarious

umm... i feel like i can name twenty better players than him at least, here it goes in no particular order...
Nash, CP3, Deron Williams, Kobe, Dirk, KG, Duncan, Melo, Lebron, Dwight, Amare, Pierce, Al Jefferson, joe johnson, josh howard, kevin martin, Chris Bosh, Richard Jefferson, Tracy McGrady, Baron Davis.

Thats from the top of the head, there are plenty of border line players as well such as Maggete, the Pistons starting 5, Caron Butler, and Antwan Jamison

LOL josh howard?, Maggete?? caron butler??? PIstons starting 5, I would rather have him then anyone on the pistons top 20 for sure...................

BlueBolts21
08-21-2008, 12:07 AM
Probably around 23-28. He isn't what he used to be.

PurpleJesus
08-21-2008, 12:09 AM
LOL josh howard?, Maggete?? caron butler??? PIstons starting 5, I would rather have him then anyone on the pistons top 20 for sure...................

all those players except for howard were rated my border line players. IMO I would'nt take him over Prince or Billups

Tha Truth
08-21-2008, 12:11 AM
Top 20-25 no doubt.

Jay22Redd
08-21-2008, 12:13 AM
He is still a top 20 player.

#1Mavericksfan
08-21-2008, 12:47 AM
Top 20

bogdanrom
08-21-2008, 12:55 AM
I think top 25 and maybe top 20. If he was still motivated he will still be top 10 IMO.

rhymeratic
08-21-2008, 12:59 AM
This dude is still top 15, arguably top 10. Do you guys even WATCH him play, his skills are still there, he's much smarter than when he was younger. He don't got to DUNK on all these dudes when he clearly has a money outside shot/jumper. He is so balanced it's not even funny. I'd take Vince on my team anyday.

lavis
08-21-2008, 01:00 AM
Maybe top30 on the regular season.. But when the games matter, he's worth nothing.

dre1990
08-21-2008, 01:02 AM
top 20

Lone Maverick
08-21-2008, 01:24 AM
People are seriously down playing him lol

Top 20

Iodine
08-21-2008, 01:28 AM
LOL josh howard?, Maggete?? caron butler??? PIstons starting 5, I would rather have him then anyone on the pistons top 20 for sure...................
Caron is the 4th best or 3rd best SF in the entire league

Dude isnt even a top 10 SG anymore so meh

LakerzDQ
08-21-2008, 03:42 AM
top 20, or maybe 25.

x_notorious
08-21-2008, 03:47 AM
Top 20-25.

bigmac8675
08-21-2008, 04:03 AM
I would say Top 30. He is still good.... but not as good as he used to be.

Tom81
08-21-2008, 04:51 AM
Top 25

Lakerfrk
08-21-2008, 05:15 AM
Caron is the 4th best or 3rd best SF in the entire league

Dude isnt even a top 10 SG anymore so meh


whoooooa... that a tough statement to support... Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Artest are all better than Caron... with Josh Smith, and Gerald Wallace right up there too......

and I'm a HUGE Caron supporter just for the record

LakerzDQ
08-21-2008, 06:32 AM
whoooooa... that a tough statement to support... Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Artest are all better than Caron... with Josh Smith, and Gerald Wallace right up there too......

and I'm a HUGE Caron supporter just for the record

this season, not Artest, Josh Smith, or Gerald Wallace.

1. Lebron
2. Pierce
3. Melo
4. Butler

(according to the poll)

Knicks845
08-21-2008, 07:58 AM
Top ][5,

CB4AB7VC15
08-21-2008, 11:05 AM
Maybe top30 on the regular season.. But when the games matter, he's worth nothing.

26ppg 7rpg 5apg career in playoffs

Andrew Bogus
08-21-2008, 11:20 AM
i'd say he's still in the 15's-20's. he's still a dangerous player if you let him have his way on the court, don't let the NJ situation fool you. i hate him with all my guts but i still respect what he can do out there. he remiinds me of richmond's situation in sac town...

RapsFan4Life
08-21-2008, 11:33 AM
he was top 5 arguably in his prime, now with a bit of a slip in numbers and consistancy people say he is top 25 thats crazy, he is definetly not top 5 any more but he hasnt slipped that much i mean still a top scorer in the league and a great rebounder for his size very clutch .. great skill set .. sometimes the heart isnt behind those skills but he is top 15 for me .. still a freak athlete .... what fans frown upon is his ability, he could very well be up there will lebron and kobe .. he could still be the 6th best player in the league ... god gave him the gift but he settles for 14th best
id rather have vince then billups or pierce or jamison, jefferson or kevin martin

RapsFan4Life
08-21-2008, 11:35 AM
Caron is the 4th best or 3rd best SF in the entire league

Dude isnt even a top 10 SG anymore so meh

check top 10 in each position, vince is up there .. and caron is a bit over rated he is like 6th or 7th best, overall if vince wants to win .. he is hands down better then bulter, but over all consistancy .. they are about on the same level

flyboi1121
08-21-2008, 11:36 AM
it's unbelievable that some people chose top 40 or other with intentions that he's not even top 40.. but surprisingly not as much as i thought there would be.

this year, he'll show/remind everyone he's top 20 easy

JordansBulls
08-21-2008, 12:07 PM
26ppg 7rpg 5apg career in playoffs

Exactly!! People think he has been worthless when his numbers show otherwise. In fact for wing players only Lebron's and maybe T-mac's are better in the playoffs.

MiamiHeat
08-21-2008, 03:07 PM
he's probably top 20