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Mile High Champ
08-20-2008, 08:24 AM
ey everyone, we will be continuing the series to find a true top 10 list at each spot. PG and SG have been completed, We have just finished the 3rd poll and Carmelo Anthony was the winner by a wide margin. Closest person was Caron Butler.

Please vote and be sure to make comments to who you voted for to creat discussion. I have only included 10 SF's on the list. It is debatable who I left on this list but more will players will be added as we get through the obvious choices for the top 5, Pierce, Marion, Butler etc...

Like I said before, I will add more players to the list as soon as we put another guy on the top 10 list.


PS: Please do not start any threads with the same title. I am capable of conducting the polls and completing the series of threads to find the top 10 players at each position. If I need some help I will ask for it. Thanks for your time.

Enjoy!

1) Lebron James
2) Paul Pierce
3) Carmelo Anthony
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knicks1214
08-20-2008, 08:53 AM
Cool. I'm one of the first people! LOL...Anyways, it has to be Butler. It was a close third with Melo, even though Melo should have been 2, then Butler then Pierce at 4....Butler is good offensively, and CAN be a shut down defender when he's guarding another perimeter defender-a Kobe like perimeter defender.

Knicks845
08-20-2008, 09:01 AM
I picked the matrix, and if he stays with miami you will all think "damn, Knicks845 is right he is the 4th best sf in the nba" Simply because he's a better defender then butler, he has a better shot fg% and 3pt% and he gets less turn overs than butler. I'd rather have the matrix running my sf, then caron.

Mile High Champ
08-20-2008, 09:02 AM
I really hope butler wins this, he should of been 3.

Jay22Redd
08-20-2008, 09:07 AM
Rudy Gay

crew158
08-20-2008, 09:13 AM
In my upset pick...Josh Smith, already the best pure athlete i the NBA, I think has made major strides and will be a superstar next year...Butler gets hurt a little too much and RonRons act drops him a couple spots

mosdef17
08-20-2008, 09:23 AM
This voting system has lost all credibility since Melo beat Caron Butler... what a joke. Take away Melo's ability to score and what is he? Just a really tall guy...

Knicks845
08-20-2008, 09:42 AM
This voting system has lost all credibility since Melo beat Caron Butler... what a joke. Take away Melo's ability to score and what is he? Just a really tall guy...

WTF, what happen's if you take away Ray Allens Jump-shot!? Its over for him, you can't jus take away someones ability to-do something, Take away Steve's Nash's Passing Ability, then he's jus a 6-3, pg who shoots! :mad:

Knicks845
08-20-2008, 09:44 AM
This voting system has lost all credibility since Melo beat Caron Butler... what a joke. Take away Melo's ability to score and what is he? Just a really tall guy...

WTF, what happen's if you take away Ray Allens Jump-shot!? Its over for him, you can't jus take away someones ability to-do something, Take away Steve's Nash's Passing Ability, then he's jus a 6-3, pg who shoots a good %! :mad:

JordansBulls
08-20-2008, 09:46 AM
Butler

Tom81
08-20-2008, 09:47 AM
Ron Artest

Zefflin
08-20-2008, 09:47 AM
WTF, what happen's if you take away Ray Allens Jump-shot!? Its over for him, you can't jus take away someones ability to-do something, Take away Steve's Nash's Passing Ability, then he's jus a 6-3, pg who shoots a good %! :mad:

Yea good point, IMO RJ is the best all around player on that list.

RapsFan4Life
08-20-2008, 09:52 AM
ron ron is better then caron .. and melo deserved the 3rd spot !

mosdef17
08-20-2008, 09:54 AM
WTF, what happen's if you take away Ray Allens Jump-shot!? Its over for him, you can't jus take away someones ability to-do something, Take away Steve's Nash's Passing Ability, then he's jus a 6-3, pg who shoots! :mad:

Take away Ray Allens jumper and he is someone that can get to the ring... and a guy that plays solid Defense as well as being a good passer. You really picked the wrong person for your example there.... Melo does not play defense. I assume you voted for him? Take away Nashs passing and he is still offensively gifted. Melo doesn't have any defensive hustle, he plays with a bad attitude, doesn't hit the glass much. Don't give me the oh but 7 boards a game... if I had Melo's body and played Denvers style of basketball I'd get 7 too.

knicks1214
08-20-2008, 09:55 AM
Knicks is 100% right about that comment...the comment about taking away Melos offensive skill was possibly the dumbest thing I have heard on this forum. By the way, Marion, while in Phoenix as well as sometimes last year, played power forward more than sf. And to the person who said Josh Smith, he is not the 4th best now...he also could be a pf because he played that last year a lot. In a few years, when he develops a consistent jump shot he will be top 5 no doubt. Mosdef you should stop posting...what you are saying is incredibly stupid. Melo is an offensive specialist-one of the BEST scorers in the NBA. If you took away Dikembe's shot blocking ability hes just a 7 footer, if you take away Bowen/Battiers defensive expertise, then you are just left with another role player who can shoot threes. Obviously if you take away the best part of someone's game they are just going to be "just another player." And another thing, Ray is a player that I like a little, but he is not a good defender...and anyone who plays with two other superstars is obviously going to win a ring...

lynx
08-20-2008, 10:10 AM
Butler

_Sn1P3r_
08-20-2008, 10:16 AM
Caron.

mitch91
08-20-2008, 11:50 AM
ron ron. the whole argument for people saying butler should have been 3 was because of his D well ron plays better D than butler and can score aswel as him. and yes melo deserved to be num3!!

knicks1214
08-20-2008, 11:53 AM
The reason why people are not picking Artest is because he has a bad rep. When he plays to his full potential, he is incredible. But because he doesn't, they do not think he deserves to be number 4.

Sixerlover
08-20-2008, 11:57 AM
Caron

NYMetros
08-20-2008, 12:01 PM
Caron Butler. He's a better passer than all of the other guys here IMO.

charlsdq7
08-20-2008, 12:04 PM
Butler
But next yr watch out for Thad Young

still1ballin
08-20-2008, 12:13 PM
Cb

t_kobe24
08-20-2008, 12:17 PM
Knicks845 is right

bogdanrom
08-20-2008, 12:33 PM
I picked the matrix, and if he stays with miami you will all think "damn, Knicks845 is right he is the 4th best sf in the nba" Simply because he's a better defender then butler, he has a better shot fg% and 3pt% and he gets less turn overs than butler. I'd rather have the matrix running my sf, then caron.

Uhmmm. Butler is shooting 47% and Marion is shooting 46%. Butler- 36% from 3, Marion- 26%. Yep 26 is better than 36:rolleyes:. Plus they have basically the same TPG (Butler-2.6, Marion-2.3), but Butler averages 2.5 more apg than Marion. Marions is a better rebounder ,a better defender but not by much. Butler is better offensively and a much better playmaker. Marion is defenitely either 5th or 6th on this list. Plus Marion has the funky shot.

yaowowrocket11
08-20-2008, 01:23 PM
The best overall player in this poll, Caron Butler.

Mile High Champ
08-20-2008, 02:15 PM
Someone voted for mike miller, I know I should of left him off the list.

LA_cabals
08-20-2008, 02:53 PM
It's a close one between C Butler and S Marion...

I voted for Butler..

DreamShaker
08-20-2008, 03:06 PM
Butler is the guy....Artest is close though.....

IversonIsKrazy
08-20-2008, 03:09 PM
wut abt maggette?

MiamiHeat
08-20-2008, 03:10 PM
I'll Go with Caron
Shawn Marion is the 5th SF :up:

DrHoops21
08-20-2008, 03:16 PM
ah get butler outta here, ill go with bruce bowen

Tha Truth
08-20-2008, 03:20 PM
Caron Butler.

Hes come a long way from his MiA days.

Jayg1712
08-20-2008, 03:32 PM
I think Butler wins this race by a long shot.

fedwik1
08-20-2008, 05:01 PM
where is iggy on this list?

MiamiHeat
08-20-2008, 05:03 PM
where is iggy on this list?

can you guys stop biitchin about Iggy not being on the list :mad:
he was on the SG List hes done no more Iggy go :cry: somewhere else

DLeeicious
08-20-2008, 05:12 PM
Definitely Caron.

Beno7500
08-20-2008, 06:15 PM
Ron Artest

superkegger
08-20-2008, 07:26 PM
Probably safe to move on to 5. lol

Hawkeye15
08-20-2008, 07:33 PM
This voting system has lost all credibility since Melo beat Caron Butler... what a joke. Take away Melo's ability to score and what is he? Just a really tall guy...

take away anyone in history's ability to score 27 ppg, and yes, they become ordinary all of a sudden

Hawkeye15
08-20-2008, 07:33 PM
It is for sure Butler. He works both ends of the floor well. He loves to live in those passing lanes.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
08-20-2008, 07:36 PM
WTF, what happen's if you take away Ray Allens Jump-shot!? Its over for him, you can't jus take away someones ability to-do something, Take away Steve's Nash's Passing Ability, then he's jus a 6-3, pg who shoots! :mad:


Lol... but how many people in the league do you know that can take away his ability to score? Melo is arguably the best scorer in the game.

nascar10294
08-20-2008, 07:45 PM
Rudy Gay, he is temendistly underated. Tough call though.

bogdanrom
08-20-2008, 07:53 PM
Lol... but how many people in the league do you know that can take away his ability to score? Melo is arguably the best scorer in the game.

You know there is a guy named Kobe. I haven't seen him play but I heard he's pretty good.;) Plus some guy named Lebronze or something like that.

Mile High Champ
08-20-2008, 10:57 PM
Will open the next poll tomorrow morning early. Caron has got this.

ugafan
08-20-2008, 11:03 PM
Will open the next poll tomorrow morning early. Caron has got this.

I see Deng making an epic comeback

cmellofan15
08-20-2008, 11:06 PM
I get why Caron leads but why does Tayshaun have 2 vote?

dre1990
08-21-2008, 01:27 AM
I think Gerald wallace is numba 4 fo so. He does every thing passes,scores,Rebounds,plays D. i actually think he is a better version a caron butler, and i would rather have him on my team the paul peirce and caron butler

Iodine
08-21-2008, 01:30 AM
Caron is the 3rd best so yeah voted for him here

Iodine
08-21-2008, 01:33 AM
I think Gerald wallace is numba 4 fo so. He does every thing passes,scores,Rebounds,plays D. i actually think he is a better version a caron butler, and i would rather have him on my team the paul peirce and caron butler
lol Caron is a better passer better jumper and better D and is a much better FT shooter

mikedesi1004
08-21-2008, 01:40 AM
Caron Butler

dre1990
08-21-2008, 01:42 AM
lol Caron is a better passer better jumper and better D and is a much better FT shooter

you got me on the passing and free throw shooting but D and jumping. have you ever seen gerald wallace play

Iodine
08-21-2008, 02:04 AM
you got me on the passing and free throw shooting but D and jumping. have you ever seen gerald wallace play

Yes I have

Since better shooting can be a very different thing to different people I will just use the 82 games stats

G-Force
Shot a .414 jumper
and overalll .220 in the clutch

Butler
Shot a .430 jumper
much better inside to
and .436 in the clutch

For D there close

fredv
08-21-2008, 06:47 AM
Ron is a lockdown defender.

mosdef17
08-21-2008, 07:36 AM
Knicks is 100% right about that comment...the comment about taking away Melos offensive skill was possibly the dumbest thing I have heard on this forum.

My point is, there are a couple of guys in this league that can have an extremely poor night offensively and still have a massive impact on the game with their passing, defense and overall hustle. Melo is definitely someone that does not fall into this category. Butler is so multi-talented and he is very very good at many different things while Melo is great at one thing and non-willing in any other aspect of the game. There are nights where teams will look to take away Melo's offense, and it basically turns him into a non-factor. Take away someone like Butlers, Duncans or even Iguodalas offense and they will still impact the game by hitting the glass and playing defense. If you think that point is the dumbest on these forums I suggest you browse around a little more. 90% of the posts on this forum is junk or 1-2 word posts :eyebrow: