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RedSoxtober
08-15-2008, 09:11 AM
Boston Red Sox (71-51) vs Toronto Blue Jays (62-60)


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Location: Fenway Park (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/bos/ballpark/index.jsp)


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Game 1

Friday, August 15 - 7:05 ET



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BOS: RHP Paul Byrd (7-10, 4.53) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/byrdpa01.shtml) vs TOR: RHP Roy Halladay (13-9, 2.72) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hallaro01.shtml)


Red Sox: Making his first start with the Sox since arriving in Tuesday's trade, Byrd will look to keep his current streak of strong starts going in Boston against the Jays. Byrd is 4-0 since the All-Star break, with a 1.24 ERA in that span, making him a strong addition for Boston's stretch run. Given the current state of the team's rotation, either working through stints on the disabled list (Bartolo Colon and Tim Wakefield) or struggling to find a rhythm (Clay Buchholz), the durable veteran is exactly what the Sox were looking for at this point in the season to bolster their starting five.



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Blue Jays: Halladay toiled through a career-high 130 pitches in a loss at home to the Indians on Saturday, but he is being given an extra day of rest in order to start the opener against the Red Sox. In his last outing, Halladay lasted 6 2/3 innings -- a short outing for the innings eater -- and surrendered four runs on 10 hits. Only one run was earned for Halladay, who has received just 3.8 runs of support from his offense this season. Halladay is 10-11 with a 4.66 ERA in 34 career games against Boston.




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Game 2

Saturday, August 16 - 7:05 ET



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BOS: RHP Josh Beckett (11-8, 3.92) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/beckejo02.shtml) vs TOR: RHP Shaun Marcum (7-5, 3.42) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/marcush01.shtml)



Red Sox: The ace right-hander is looking primed to go on his most dominant run of the season. Beckett won his past two starts, giving up three earned runs over 14 2/3 innings. His last start was one of his best of the season, as he fired eight innings against the White Sox, allowing just one run while walking none and striking out eight. For whatever reason, Beckett has struggled at Fenway Park this season, going 5-3 with a 5.03 ERA in nine starts. This will be Beckett's first start against the Blue Jays since April 6, when he gave up three hits and five runs in 4 2/3 innings.




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Blue Jays: Marcum has started to locate his fastball better, and that has allowed the right-hander to more effectively mix in his other pitches. That was an issue for Marcum in his first three starts off the disabled list on July 22, following a month-long bout with a right elbow injury. In those starts, Marcum went 0-1 with a 9.82 ERA. In his last two outings, Marcum has looked much sharper, going 2-0 with a 2.08 ERA. In nine career appearances against the Red Sox, Marcum is 3-1 with a 3.00 ERA.



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Game 3

Sunday, August 17 - 1:35 ET



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BOS: RHP Clay Buchholz (2-8, 6.32) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/buchhcl01.shtml) vs RHP A.J. Burnett (15-9, 4.67) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/burnea.01.shtml)



Red Sox: With the arrival of Paul Byrd to the Red Sox via Tuesday's trade, the struggling Buchholz was lifted from his regular starting duties for Friday's series opener with the Jays. But with Tim Wakefield on the DL and Charlie Zink -- Wakefield's replacement on Tuesday -- being optioned back to Triple-A Pawtucket, Buchholz will get another shot in the rotation. It just comes two days later than scheduled. His lone start against Toronto resulted in his first loss of the season on April 5; Buchholz went five innings and allowed four runs (three earned) in a 10-2 loss.






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Blue Jays: Burnett has won five starts in a row, tying rotation mates Roy Halladay and Jesse Litsch for the longest winning streak of the season by a Blue Jays starter. On Tuesday, Burnett picked up a win on the road against the Tigers after giving up four runs on eight hits, including a season-high three home runs, with six strikeouts and one walk. Burnett upped his American League-leading strikeout total to 165 in the 108-pitch effort, which marked his seventh win in his past eight starts. Burnett is 4-0 with a 1.98 ERA in five career starts against the Red Sox.






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Tankjeep
08-15-2008, 09:32 AM
let's go sox. c'mon mr. byrd, let's get this party started.

Tragedy
08-15-2008, 09:38 AM
Ah, crap.

Game 1 against Halladay, and game 3 with Buchholz the clown.

I don't like where this is going.

mcivermd21
08-15-2008, 10:06 AM
its going to be interesting to see how the Sox bats react after just breezing through the Rangers rotation (the worst in the AL) to the Jays (the best in the AL.
Also, lets go Byrd. You have Roy Holliday in game 1 of your RedSox debut. Lets go Mr. Byrd.

Towelie
08-15-2008, 11:52 AM
I can see us getting swept here if we weren't at home. Buchholz has been great at fenway, and I just hope we can do something good here.

sboyajian
08-15-2008, 12:21 PM
If Byrd pitches like he has the last few games, I am not worried about Doc at all.. especially if he pitches like he did last week

kazzy4080
08-15-2008, 02:16 PM
i see the sox taking 2 our of 3, especially with the offense starting to gel well

DaaBoTownSox
08-15-2008, 02:20 PM
Game 1 is going to be a tough one to get with Halladay on the mound.

Also, game 3 with Bucholz, unless he can drastically change it around that's a loss.

The Intimidator
08-15-2008, 03:44 PM
Halladay career against Red Sox: 34 games, 31 starts, 10-11, 4.66 ERA. He's a great pitcher, but according to those numbers, we don't seem to be doomed when we face him.

Byrd just threw a complete game against the Jays last Saturday, and is 4-3 with a 2.86 ERA and 3 complete games in 7 career starts against Toronto.

After looking at those numbers, I feel confident that we will win tonight. We're playing at home, where we have the second best winning percentage in the AL, so I think tonight's game will be a win. That being said, I could be wrong...

blujaysrock
08-15-2008, 03:45 PM
Great pitching matches throughout this series could go either way.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-15-2008, 04:09 PM
This is going to be a great series, I'm psyched to see Byrd pitch. I always love watching the old crafty pitchers pitch.

JimmyMal450
08-15-2008, 04:12 PM
I'm dissapointed, I won't be able to see Byrds Red Sox Debut tonight. But I will be at the Washington Nationals Game :D

The Intimidator
08-15-2008, 04:15 PM
Nice...you can tell us just how bad Wily Mo Pena is...:D

Towelie
08-15-2008, 04:25 PM
I'm dissapointed, I won't be able to see Byrds Red Sox Debut tonight. But I will be at the Washington Nationals Game :D

eeeeeewwwwww

JimmyMal450
08-15-2008, 04:31 PM
eeeeeewwwwww

Yeah I know, Nationals...but then I'll get to see Lester pitch against the Orioles on Monday.

CanadianSoxFan
08-15-2008, 04:45 PM
I'm leaving Ontario tomorrow for the DC area. I'm going to the Nat's game on Sunday (to see the stadium not the team) and then will be at DiceK's start in Baltimore on Tuesday. Looks like that is also going to be the game where the 50Millionth fan visits Oriole Park and wins $50K. Wouldn't that be funny - a Sox fan from Canada wining a prize for Oriole Park.:pray:

The Intimidator
08-15-2008, 04:47 PM
Jeez, there's going to be more Sox fans at the Nats game tonight than Nats fans...

coltsfan11
08-15-2008, 05:03 PM
Should be an interesting series. I'm going with the Red Sox winning the series 2-1. Why? Well it's pretty easy for me to choose this because of the offense. Sure the Red Sox don't look like they have the better pitchers taking the mound but I think it will work out. While Halladay is a better pitcher than Byrd, Byrd has a better offense than Halladay. I think in the end it will be a win for the Red Sox in game one because of the number of runs they always score. In game to Josh Beckett will do what Josh Beckett does and win the game from a pitching standpoint. Score won't be to high for either team but the Red Sox will be the winners by at least 2 runs. In game three I'm going with the Blue Jays because of Clay Bucholz pitching. He has been pitching horribly lately and I don't think that is going to change anytime soon. He's been put under a lot of pressure, and that pressure is getting to him. Maybe he'll break out of his slump before the regular season is over but I doubt it. Most likely scenario for him is that he get mercifully put into the bullpen.

a_roid_3333
08-15-2008, 07:14 PM
how bad is it raining in boston? any chance of it letting up soon?

Dirty Dirk41
08-15-2008, 07:41 PM
how bad is it raining in boston? any chance of it letting up soon?

Games looking like its going to be postponed

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-15-2008, 07:41 PM
It's raining and thundering here in Bellingham, which isn't too far from Boston.

cmoneytakemoney
08-15-2008, 08:30 PM
It's not raining in Lowell and that's only 20 miles from Boston. Could be a good sign.

BouGa
08-15-2008, 08:40 PM
Damn, game is postponed. Rescheduled a day/night doubleheader on Sept 13th.

Of course on Byrd's 1st start this happens.

bosox1899
08-15-2008, 08:41 PM
damn they postponed it :mad:

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-15-2008, 09:48 PM
Maybe they'll let Byrd pitch tomorrow. :)

Towelie
08-15-2008, 11:43 PM
He's scheduled to.

yaowowrocket11
08-16-2008, 03:56 PM
This game is big tonight. Sox need to get to Halladay early or else its over.

kazzy4080
08-16-2008, 07:15 PM
not the greatest start for byrd. whats number is byrd? it be cool if he was 33

Towelie
08-16-2008, 07:15 PM
33 is tek....

Towelie
08-16-2008, 07:18 PM
come on drew 2 on for you.

gosawks
08-16-2008, 07:29 PM
Byrd is 36. Cash switched to 30.

sboyajian
08-16-2008, 08:19 PM
Jeez, there's going to be more Sox fans at the Nats game tonight than Nats fans...

perhaps I should get tickets and go.. the stadium is only about 10 minutes from my office.

Towelie
08-16-2008, 08:50 PM
well this has sucked. 4-0 right now for the Jays.

yaowowrocket11
08-16-2008, 08:59 PM
Wasn't expecting the Sox to hit Halladay anyway. Let's hope for some late inning rally again!

yaowowrocket11
08-16-2008, 09:14 PM
Damn. 1.2 perfect innings for Lopez. Impressive.

Come on offense, miracle time!

yaowowrocket11
08-16-2008, 09:17 PM
HR for Pedroia. 4-1, MOMENTUM!

Papi grounds into the shift, 1 out.

yaowowrocket11
08-16-2008, 09:22 PM
Ehh, Jays win.

Tragedy
08-16-2008, 10:15 PM
I expected Halladay to dominate us.

Sucks.

This series is a wash, because Buchholz the clown is going to own us (Thats right, our own pitcher will own us).

KmB728
08-16-2008, 11:22 PM
i herd clay got pushed back till wednesday vs the O's

idk why though

DaaBoTownSox
08-17-2008, 02:11 AM
I heard he got pushed back as well.

kazzy4080
08-17-2008, 02:37 AM
I heard he got pushed back as well.

yeah wasnt on nesn, this gives him another side session to work out some of the kinks, but i dont side sessions will help i think his slump is all mental

yaowowrocket11
08-17-2008, 11:12 AM
According to MLB.com, Beckett pitches tonight, Lester vs. O's on Monday, Dice-K on Tuesday, and Clay on Wednesday.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-17-2008, 01:33 PM
I think Beckett dominates tonight. :)

Towelie
08-17-2008, 01:41 PM
1k 1 out in the first, took some pitches though.

Towelie
08-17-2008, 01:44 PM
runners on 3rd and 2nd with 1 out...COME ON BECKETT!

Towelie
08-17-2008, 01:45 PM
looked like a K to me..

Towelie
08-17-2008, 01:47 PM
bases loaded 1 out. Man, Beckett is mediocre this year.

Towelie
08-17-2008, 01:47 PM
Throw A ****ing Strike!

Towelie
08-17-2008, 01:48 PM
unreal.....2-0.

Towelie
08-17-2008, 01:49 PM
Jesus CHRIST! basesloaded again with a HBP! WHAT ARE YOU DOING!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-17-2008, 01:50 PM
^^ Sucking comes to mind... I think that ball that Cora dived at would've been gotten by Lowrie...

Towelie
08-17-2008, 01:50 PM
I already can't ****ing watch anymore of this game.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-17-2008, 01:51 PM
NEvermind, I forgot Lowrie was playing third.

Towelie
08-17-2008, 01:52 PM
4-0 I'M DONE with this game.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-17-2008, 01:57 PM
What The ****

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-17-2008, 02:15 PM
Beckett picked a ****** time to pitch ******.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-17-2008, 02:21 PM
That call on Bay was complete bull ****.

a_roid_3333
08-17-2008, 02:37 PM
I think Beckett dominates tonight. :)

u were bang on with that one buddy

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-17-2008, 03:27 PM
^^ Just a bit off. :D

Superiority
08-17-2008, 03:48 PM
Bucholtz is pitching

Tragedy
08-17-2008, 04:27 PM
Wow, the boxscore looks hilarious. Every reliever gave up 1 run, with Beckett topping out with 8 ER. Thank god I'm at work and not watching this, or I'd be one unhappy man.

Beckett = Not a true ace. I guess the doubters were right.

Cronin
08-17-2008, 04:57 PM
:mad:

Cronin
08-17-2008, 04:58 PM
Wow, the boxscore looks hilarious. Every reliever gave up 1 run, with Beckett topping out with 8 ER. Thank god I'm at work and not watching this, or I'd be one unhappy man.

Beckett = Not a true ace. I guess the doubters were right.

:mad:

Not a true ace? Who would you rather have starting for you in the playoffs?
I'd take him over any pitcher in baseball.

PapelbonLester
08-17-2008, 05:11 PM
Wow, the boxscore looks hilarious. Every reliever gave up 1 run, with Beckett topping out with 8 ER. Thank god I'm at work and not watching this, or I'd be one unhappy man.

Beckett = Not a true ace. I guess the doubters were right.

tragedy....... cmon man ur almost at 15000 posts and your going to say something this dumb. he is a true ace and should of won the cy young last year. he went 20-7 with a 3.2 era. 1 bad outing doesnt make him bad.

bosox1899
08-17-2008, 05:19 PM
tragedy....... cmon man ur almost at 15000 posts and your going to say something this dumb. he is a true ace and should of won the cy young last year. he went 20-7 with a 3.2 era. 1 bad outing doesnt make him bad.

technically hes had more than one bad outing this season but hey whos counting. well hes not pitching to ace material this season thats for sure, right now hes maybe number 3 on our team behind lester and dice k, so in a way hes not a true ace

torontosports10
08-17-2008, 05:30 PM
Beckett was an Ace last year not this one.. trhat said i dont think you would rather see anyone on the mound come playoffs then Beckett...maybe Doc ;)

Towelie
08-17-2008, 06:45 PM
:mad:

Not a true ace? Who would you rather have starting for you in the playoffs?
I'd take him over any pitcher in baseball.

Aces don't give up 8 ER a start. Lester is our ace right now.

Brooke
08-17-2008, 08:40 PM
Beckett has had a mediocre year compared to last year. I dont remember the last time I have seen him give up this many runs especially in one inning. I dont know something has been off with him this year especially today

Halladay
08-17-2008, 08:57 PM
Beckett has had a mediocre year compared to last year. I dont remember the last time I have seen him give up this many runs especially in one inning. I dont know something has been off with him this year especially today

Maybe he's hurt?

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-17-2008, 09:15 PM
Maybe he's hurt?

Doubt it, he was throwing pretty hard, he just couldn't hit his spots.

76YazwSideburns
08-17-2008, 09:30 PM
Wow, the boxscore looks hilarious. Every reliever gave up 1 run, with Beckett topping out with 8 ER. Thank god I'm at work and not watching this, or I'd be one unhappy man.

Beckett = Not a true ace. I guess the doubters were right.

Not an ace today - that's for sure. I'll was petrified he was injured out there.

KmB728
08-17-2008, 10:40 PM
i was at the game today... i could barley take it

Tragedy
08-17-2008, 10:48 PM
tragedy....... cmon man ur almost at 15000 posts and your going to say something this dumb. he is a true ace and should of won the cy young last year. he went 20-7 with a 3.2 era. 1 bad outing doesnt make him bad.
Lets test your logic.

You say one bad start doesn't make you bad, right?

Now you say he's a true ace, and you reference one season (2007). Do you think that one season defines someone as an ace?

The answer is no.

Beckett isn't an ace. Money in the Playoffs, but not a true ace. I'll take someone that has consistently done it (Halladay, Santana, etc). Those are the real aces of baseball, not Josh Beckett.

yaowowrocket11
08-17-2008, 10:50 PM
I can't believe Beckett got blasted like that. Damn, the Jays mess all momentum up!

:mad:

yaowowrocket11
08-17-2008, 10:52 PM
Lets test your logic.

You say one bad start doesn't make you bad, right?

Now you say he's a true ace, and you reference one season (2007). Do you think that one season defines someone as an ace?

The answer is no.

Beckett isn't an ace. Money in the Playoffs, but not a true ace. I'll take someone that has consistently done it (Halladay, Santana, etc). Those are the real aces of baseball, not Josh Beckett.

I agree 100%. He never performs like an ace year after year, like the guys you mentioned. An ace is consistently a top starter in the league. Beckett is not that. He has good years and some mediocre years.

-Lavigne43-
08-17-2008, 10:52 PM
Lets test your logic.

You say one bad start doesn't make you bad, right?

Now you say he's a true ace, and you reference one season (2007). Do you think that one season defines someone as an ace?

The answer is no.

Beckett isn't an ace. Money in the Playoffs, but not a true ace. I'll take someone that has consistently done it (Halladay, Santana, etc). Those are the real aces of baseball, not Josh Beckett.

Check the stats. Beckett has had one bad year which was 2006.

yaowowrocket11
08-17-2008, 11:05 PM
Check the stats. Beckett has had one bad year which was 2006.

2002 wasn't that great either. Honestly, none of those seasons looks like an ace season, except 2003 and 2007. I think he gets motivated by a chance at a ring, but maybe not this year.

Halladay
08-17-2008, 11:14 PM
Just out of curiosity, Would you guys rather have Beckett or Wang?

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-17-2008, 11:22 PM
I'd take Beckett over Wang.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-17-2008, 11:23 PM
Although, Beckett isn't one of my top choices if I had any pick of any pitcher in the league.

yaowowrocket11
08-17-2008, 11:35 PM
Just out of curiosity, Would you guys rather have Beckett or Wang?

I would go with Beckett.........Wang has impressive numbers, but he doesn't have the dominance factor that Beckett has when he is on his game.

Tragedy
08-18-2008, 12:18 AM
Check the stats. Beckett has had one bad year which was 2006.


And all the other years were ace seasons?

DaaBoTownSox
08-18-2008, 02:37 AM
It seems to me like Beckett is relying too much on his fastball once again, just like his first year with the Sox when he got lit up.

Perhaps he is injured, or worn out? Who knows.