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socalpkrbkr
08-14-2008, 11:40 PM
When asked how good the Green Bay Packers’ defense can be this season, linebacker Nick Barnett initially said “top five” in the National Football League.

Coach Mike McCarthy had even higher aspirations when he said Thursday the Packers were capable of reaching the “top three.”

Not to be outdone, Barnett reconsidered: “With God on our side, and health issues and communication I think we could be the best defense in the NFL.”

Talk about great expectations.

Such lofty goals might put most defensive coordinators on the hot seat. But Packers defensive leader Bob Sanders remains unfazed.

“We’ve got to do it, talking about it doesn’t mean anything,” said the unflappable Sanders.

On a national scale, the Packers aren’t mentioned when dominating defenses are discussed. That’s just fine with the players in the Green Bay locker room.

“That’s a great thing,” said cornerback Al Harris. “I hope we fly under the radar. I hope everybody underestimates us. Nobody thinks that we can apply pressure to the passer.”

There’s a quiet confidence among players and coaches that the Packers’ defense could be something special. No one is tossing out the term “great” just yet, but there’s no question the bar is being raised.

McCarthy sounded the first warning shot at the shareholders’ meeting last month when he said his 2008 team would be centered around the defense. With the departure of longtime quarterback Brett Favre, it was thought McCarthy was attempting to take some pressure off Aaron Rodgers and the offense.

The coach clarified his philosophy following practice on Thursday.

“We have more experience on defense than we have on offense, so I really like the makeup of our players as far as their ability that matches the scheme,” he said. “I’m really excited about our defense.”

The Packers were a somewhat disappointing 11th in the NFL last season based on yards allowed. But Sanders points to a No. 3 ranking in third-down conversions and No. 6 position in points allowed as more telling statistics.

Harris and Aaron Kampman were invited to the Pro Bowl last season, and Barnett and Charles Woodson arguably could have made it. But overall depth is what could make this unit stand out.

“What this defense is really all about is 11 guys working hard, consistently showing up for games, and not stopping until the whistle blows,” said Barnett.

A rash of injuries on the line could derail the best-laid plans. Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, Ryan Pickett and Justin Harrell have yet to be heard from in training camp.

Even without their services, the No. 1 defense didn’t allow a first down against the Cincinnati Bengals in the preseason opener.

“Our guys came out fast and physical, but it was just three series,” cautioned Sanders, who takes nothing for granted.

“We’ve got a good group. We have a chance to be a really good defense. I’m excited about that.”
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080814/PKR07/80814151/1058/PKR01&referrer=NEWSFRONTCAROUSEL

I'm thinking in the top ten. Only because it's based on yards and we've had the tendency to give up the big play in recent years. If we can eliminate the big plays I think we could be top 5 easy.

newdude
08-14-2008, 11:44 PM
Right now, I would say lower part of top ten. We had glaring weaknesses from last season and issues with the D-line right now. I'm waiting to see if we explore more of our defensive strengths and try new plays.

hughest4
08-15-2008, 12:04 AM
I think our defense will probably end up ranked somewhere around 8th. I love our D and it is very good, but i don't think it is a great one. Last season we played well but there were definitely some weaknesses. Hopefully i'm wrong and we have the best D in the league

robdizzle3
08-15-2008, 12:13 AM
To me its no doubter that we will be a tope 5 defense this year because I expect great linebacker play,an alright d-line and an excellent secondary making us a great defense

StickyGreenFan
08-15-2008, 12:51 AM
yea but great defenses have great d lines. i think thats the biggest weak point right now. injuries slowed us down last year and i think we need stronger interior pass rushers. romo had all day long to shred us last year and i was frustrated as hell....

robdizzle3
08-15-2008, 12:57 AM
yea but great defenses have great d lines. i think thats the biggest weak point right now. injuries slowed us down last year and i think we need stronger interior pass rushers. romo had all day long to shred us last year and i was frustrated as hell....

True but last year we didnt blitz for anything and now this year we have to with as you say the problem with our line and that could be the best thing that happened to this team because when we blitz we are successful

StickyGreenFan
08-15-2008, 01:34 AM
True but last year we didnt blitz for anything and now this year we have to with as you say the problem with our line and that could be the best thing that happened to this team because when we blitz we are successful

i hope u right. i just hate when we have games like the dallas game where we let ***** *** TO dominate and the giants game where plexico had like 150 yards cuz we couldnt get pressure. that **** is unexcusable if you have a great defense

darwin31
08-15-2008, 02:17 AM
Interestingly enough, I think a large part of your defenses success is dependant on how well your new qb can keep your defense off the field.

XJW18
08-15-2008, 08:39 AM
8th - 11th
im not extremely happy with our D-line.
especially with all the injuries and john jolly's drug charge.

ugottabjoshinme
08-15-2008, 10:38 AM
8th - 11th
im not extremely happy with our D-line.
especially with all the injuries and john jolly's drug charge.

agreed. if they can prove to stop the run, we will be in excellent shape

socalpkrbkr
08-15-2008, 10:55 AM
yea but great defenses have great d lines. i think thats the biggest weak point right now. injuries slowed us down last year and i think we need stronger interior pass rushers. romo had all day long to shred us last year and i was frustrated as hell....

No arguing the D Line being the weak spot. Funny how things can change so much in less than a year. Remember KGB was out for that Dallas game. That's a bigger blow to our pass rush than most would give credit. KGB may not be a starter anymore but his role as our pass rush specialist is critical. We're beat up front right now, Harrell is out indefinitely, Jolly may be suspended and we traded away Williams. Pickett is out along with KGB, neither has practiced yet I believe.

hawkeye
08-15-2008, 12:01 PM
No arguing the D Line being the weak spot. Funny how things can change so much in less than a year. Remember KGB was out for that Dallas game. That's a bigger blow to our pass rush than most would give credit. KGB may not be a starter anymore but his role as our pass rush specialist is critical. We're beat up front right now, Harrell is out indefinitely, Jolly may be suspended and we traded away Williams. Pickett is out along with KGB, neither has practiced yet I believe.

Hell, our D-Line is more worrisome than Rodgers. I think the magical T will scoop someone off the waiver heap to help out though.

socalpkrbkr
08-15-2008, 12:30 PM
Hell, our D-Line is more worrisome than Rodgers. I think the magical T will scoop someone off the waiver heap to help out though.

Is there anyone that may get cut that's worth mentioning?

hawkeye
08-15-2008, 01:05 PM
TT needs to find a fat f$%& to clog the middle. He drafted one, but the guy hasn't been healthy since he was 8 years old. not sure if there's any guys on the bubble as we speak, but there likely will after final cuts.

newdude
08-15-2008, 01:15 PM
There is Marcus Tubbs, he was a former first rd I think picked by TT himself during his time in Seattle. But the odd thing is, Tubbs is known to struggle with injuries too.

socalpkrbkr
08-15-2008, 01:34 PM
There is Marcus Tubbs, he was a former first rd I think picked by TT himself during his time in Seattle. But the odd thing is, Tubbs is known to struggle with injuries too.

So he has been cut already. Interesting about the TT thing. He had microfracture surgery '06. (not good at all) Did he have knee troubles in '07 too. Wiki said he was out for the year.

newdude
08-15-2008, 01:39 PM
So he has been cut already. Interesting about the TT thing. He had microfracture surgery '06. (not good at all) Did he have knee troubles in '07 too. Wiki said he was out for the year.

I think he had a torn ACL in 2007.

socalpkrbkr
08-15-2008, 01:54 PM
I think he had a torn ACL in 2007.

After having microfracture surgery! Frick that, we don't want him.:no:

newdude
08-15-2008, 02:15 PM
U never know, TT did draft him :D

coltsfan11
08-15-2008, 02:18 PM
I think that the Green Bay Packers will have just about the same kind of defense as they had last year if not better. Look at what they lost this offseason...just Williams right? Right. So really they have gained more than they lost. They will finally be having Abdul Hodge in the linebacking core after he's missed the last couple years with injury. They have a good young defensive tackle that might be able to make his first showing of his career at some point this year in Justin Harrell. Jolly is another tackle that I think will impress a lot of people this season. Brandon Chillar was also added to the linebacking core and he is a very hard hitter which adds more depth. A.J. Hawk has had yet another offseason to get in better shape and that goes for Barnett to. The young safeties are more ready for the action this season. The cornerbacks have gotten better after a season of experience. Defensive ends are going to be good as well. Sure you could say that the corners have gotten older, but Woodson and Harris are still a top 5 cornerbacking duo. I really think they have a shot at being one of the top 3 defenses in the league this year.

BrewCityBuck
08-16-2008, 01:45 PM
I think we'll be fine, we're better than 90% of the defenses in the NFL, any complaining about our defense is simply nitpicking considering how we have fewer holes than just about any defense in the league.

Like just about any defense we will go through stretches where we give up too many receptions because of poor CB play and because our line won't get consistant pressure. Like last year.

But overall everythings good.

servais77
08-16-2008, 05:23 PM
If Bob Sanders wasn't our D coordinator I would rank us higher. That guy must have pictures of Teddy in a compromising position to keep his job. He should have been fired after the Jets game two seasons ago.

AFlagRules
08-16-2008, 07:02 PM
5th - 7th. We're good.

wissportsfan
08-16-2008, 07:47 PM
If Bob Sanders wasn't our D coordinator I would rank us higher. That guy must have pictures of Teddy in a compromising position to keep his job. He should have been fired after the Jets game two seasons ago.

Yeah in a way I would agree with that. I do think we will be doing more blitzing this year which I think was one of the biggest knocks on him last season.

StickyGreenFan
08-17-2008, 02:59 AM
dline was horrible in the sf game. hope we sign some hidden gems like grant before the start of the season.

SC PackerGuy
08-17-2008, 08:05 AM
A lot of good defenses rely on a good offense. If we can control the clock on offense, we will be a top 3 defense. If we can't control the clock (See the 49ers game) we will be lucky to crack the top ten. Even a poor defense can look good when your offense controls the game and makes the other team play catch up.

XJW18
08-17-2008, 12:51 PM
im not happy with our DT's

hughest4
08-17-2008, 11:19 PM
im not happy with our DT's

Ehh, i think they will be ok once the season comes around. Right now the only guys from last years rotation that are healthy are Jolly and Colin Cole. Hopefully we will get our big run stuffer Ryan Pickett back in the next couple of weeks and maybe Justin Harrell at some point this year