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Mile High Champ
08-12-2008, 01:34 PM
This will be a series of polls to get a true top 10 list at each spot.

I completed a list of top PG's by votes, Lets head over to the SG's. IN our latest poll Manu and Vince tied at 52 votes, as a result these players will be tied for number 5 and we will move onto number 7... If there is further debate about these two players later sharing one spot, we can do a seperate vote for them to decide 5..

There are a lot of players to be picked from, Please pick the best player. some of the guys on the list could play SF but many have played mostly SG over the last few years..


1) Kobe Bryant
2) Dwayne Wade
3) Tracy McGrady
4) Allen Iverson
5) Manu Ginobili
5) Vince Carter
7)
8)
9)
10)


Don't Forget to vote and make comments!

POLL IS CLOSED EARLY DUE TO JOHNSON'S HIGH VOTE TOTAL, WE WILL MOVE TO NUMBER 8!

AgentViet
08-12-2008, 01:34 PM
Slaughter tieing with Manu? :pity:

My vote goes to Joe Johnson on this one.

Dirty Dirk41
08-12-2008, 01:37 PM
Ray Allen....Joe Johnson, Manu, Or Vince are not better than RayRay. I would rather Ray over them any day of the week. Only one close to ray is Joe Johnson. VINCE????? Vince is a shell of his former self an that wasnt much. His stats are nice but hes a hog, an hasnt really done anything when it comes to winning.

phillyphan4ever
08-12-2008, 01:38 PM
Redd

JordansBulls
08-12-2008, 01:39 PM
Slaughter tieing with Manu? :pity:

My vote goes to Joe Johnson on this one.

What's wrong with Vince Carter?:confused:

Westbrook36
08-12-2008, 01:39 PM
Joe Johnson

pauljames
08-12-2008, 01:41 PM
wheres number 6?

MiamiHeat
08-12-2008, 01:42 PM
Jj

Jay22Redd
08-12-2008, 01:49 PM
Joe Johnson

LA_cabals
08-12-2008, 01:49 PM
The fact that someone posted a thread in the Nets forum telling everyone to vote for Vince should have dropped him below Manu to #6...

#7 Joe Johnson

Joshtd1
08-12-2008, 01:51 PM
Joe Johnson on this one.

Tom81
08-12-2008, 01:55 PM
Joe Johnson

MILESC04
08-12-2008, 01:58 PM
the fact that you guys think tracy mcgrady and d wade are better than iverson is ridiculous...t mac cant stay healthy for a whole hour and d wade...he is way too young to be considered better than iverson...waaaaaaaaayyyyyy to young and his performance last year or lack there of was way under par.....iverson number 2 hands down

Bosh=nextKG
08-12-2008, 02:02 PM
the fact that you guys think tracy mcgrady and d wade are better than iverson is ridiculous...t mac cant stay healthy for a whole hour and d wade...he is way too young to be considered better than iverson...waaaaaaaaayyyyyy to young and his performance last year or lack there of was way under par.....iverson number 2 hands down

So does that mean you don't consider Lebron better than half the league cuz he is way too young? They both r better than AI, even tho they r young. Lebron is even younger than Dwade and I bet u think Lebron is better than AI. Also I gotta go with Joe Johnson on this one, he's got mad skills.

JIDsanity
08-12-2008, 02:02 PM
My vote goes to Rip. Everyone needs to stop whining about VC it's over.

nygiants242
08-12-2008, 02:11 PM
jj

J-N-M-ETS4LYF
08-12-2008, 02:16 PM
joe JOhnson for sure.. even though i think he should be #6... but w/e hes a big time player.. def better than anyone on that list....

My list would be
1) KObe
2) wade
3) iverson
4) carter
5) tmac
6) joe Johnson
7) Andre Igodola if u consider him a sg
8) Rip Hamilton
9) Michael Redd
10) Brandon Roy
11) Kevin Martin
12) Jason Richardson
13) Manu Ginobli
14) Monta Ellis
15) Ray Allen

MILESC04
08-12-2008, 02:18 PM
t mac has never made it out of the first round iverson has.....t mac has had a dominant big man to play with but cant get out the first round..d wade performance was terrible last season there is no way you can consider he is better than iverson....and honestly i dont think lebron is better than iverson...lebron is a freak of nature athlete with an inconsistent jump shot...ok he has been to the finals...so has A.I....and iverson doesnt even scratch 6 ft tall...

J-N-M-ETS4LYF
08-12-2008, 02:20 PM
t mac has never made it out of the first round iverson has.....t mac has had a dominant big man to play with but cant get out the first round..d wade performance was terrible last season there is no way you can consider he is better than iverson....and honestly i dont think lebron is better than iverson...lebron is a freak of nature athlete with an inconsistent jump shot...ok he has been to the finals...so has A.I....and iverson doesnt even scratch 6 ft tall...

i edited my thing .. i hadt mac first by mistake.. what i ment to write is KObe.. tmac is #5 on my list.. Ai is 3

DrHoops21
08-12-2008, 02:22 PM
take barbosa off this list lol

njnets
08-12-2008, 02:22 PM
just make JJ 7. he came in 3rd in a landslide with ray allen the only 1 near him. i voted for JJ btw.

and no votes for all the people that say ray allen in better. makes no sense lol.

Mile High Champ
08-12-2008, 02:22 PM
The fact that someone posted a thread in the Nets forum telling everyone to vote for Vince should have dropped him below Manu to #6...

#7 Joe Johnson

I was not aware of that, Im debating putting Manu ahead of Vince for this reason....

DrHoops21
08-12-2008, 02:23 PM
voted for mr johnson. but now that im thinking about it it might be Redd. He is on the olympic team..

AllTheWay
08-12-2008, 02:25 PM
I say Kevin Martin

phlp_bj
08-12-2008, 02:28 PM
hey alltheway, check you PM.

and this has to be joe johnson

J-N-M-ETS4LYF
08-12-2008, 02:29 PM
I was not aware of that, Im debating putting Manu ahead of Vince for this reason....

I didnt put a gun to their head and tell them to vote for him.. there is nothting wrong with what i did.. i just told them to stand up for your players.. U cant take that away.. u dont even know if that thread changed anyones mind.. I was just tired of hearing crap on carter so i wanted to tell nets fans to support their players.. There is nothing wrong with that.. they should voice their opinions... Its an NBa forum and I was informing them.. nothing wrong with that at all.. You cant change the standings.. the poll is there for people to vote.. gonan be some ticked off ppl if u do that.. its not fair.

superkegger
08-12-2008, 02:30 PM
JJ 21.7 ppg 4.5 rpg 5.8 apg 43.2% shooting, 38.1% 3pt shooting 2.7 topg
Roy 19.1 ppg 4.7 rpg 5.8 apg 45.5% shooting, 35.5% 3pt shooting, 1.9 topg
Ellis 20.2 ppg 5.0 rpg 3.9 apg 53.1% shooting, 23.1% 3pt shooting, 2.2 topg
Redd 22.7 ppg 4.3 rpg 3.4 apg 44.3% shooting, 36.2% 3pt shooting, 2.5 topg
Jrich 21.8 ppg 5.4 rpg 3.1 apg 44.1% shooting, 40.6% 3pt shooting, 2.0 topg
KD 20.3 ppg 4.3 rpg 2.4 apg 43.0% shooting, 28.8% 3pt shooting, 2.9 topg
Kmart 23.7 ppg 4.5 rpg 2.1 apg 45.6% shooting, 40.2% 3pt shooting, 2.2 topg
Ray 17.4 ppg 3.7 rpg 3.1 apg 44.5% shooting, 39.8% 3pt shooting, 1.7 topg
Rip 17.3 ppg 3.3 rpg 4.2 apg 48.5% shooting, 44.0% 3pt shooting, 1.8 topg
Granger19.6 ppg 6.1 rpg 2.1 apg 44.6% shooting, 40.45 3pt shooting, 2.1 topg


Really, the differences in numbers of the rest of the guys left, is not that different. PPG are all within a 6 ppg spread, rpg are all withing 3ish, apg all within 3, shooting % has a 10% spread, and 3pt shooting a huge range, and topg a pretty narrow margin. It just really depends and what you're looking for your sg to be.


the fact that you guys think tracy mcgrady and d wade are better than iverson is ridiculous...t mac cant stay healthy for a whole hour and d wade...he is way too young to be considered better than iverson...waaaaaaaaayyyyyy to young and his performance last year or lack there of was way under par.....iverson number 2 hands down

Dwade finals mvp two years ago, injured the past two years. What has iverson done the past 4 years in the playoffs?

Mr. 3 Stacks
08-12-2008, 02:35 PM
Jj

J-N-M-ETS4LYF
08-12-2008, 02:38 PM
I was not aware of that, Im debating putting Manu ahead of Vince for this reason....

THe bigger the sample size the better the indicator. A large volume of people voting means that it is more likely to what people acutally bleieve. THe more people vote the better.

superkegger
08-12-2008, 02:46 PM
THe bigger the sample size the better the indicator. A large volume of people voting means that it is more likely to what people acutally bleieve. THe more people vote the better.

Not necessarily...not if all those people happen to be from the nets forum...then the bigger the sample size the less accurate the results would be...

mcnasty54
08-12-2008, 02:57 PM
after his playoff performances, Joe Johnson

J-N-M-ETS4LYF
08-12-2008, 02:58 PM
Not necessarily...not if all those people happen to be from the nets forum...then the bigger the sample size the less accurate the results would be...

It certainly is when a lot of the fans voting are spurs fans, raptor fans, vince carter hater... would'nt you say so? it just evens things out.

And there is nothing wrong with it.. Everyone deserves to vote.. Nets fans were not voting or not aware.. some i let them know.. IT made it even.. cause i know there were a bunch or spurs & raptors fans, and vince haters voting.

RapsFan4Life
08-12-2008, 03:03 PM
This will be a series of polls to get a true top 10 list at each spot.

I completed a list of top PG's by votes, Lets head over to the SG's. IN our latest poll Manu and Vince tied at 52 votes, as a result these players will be tied for number 5 and we will move onto number 7... If there is further debate about these two players later sharing one spot, we can do a seperate vote for them to decide 5..

There are a lot of players to be picked from, Please pick the best player. some of the guys on the list could play SF but many have played mostly SG over the last few years..


1) Kobe Bryant
2) Dwayne Wade
3) Tracy McGrady
4) Allen Iverson
5) Manu Ginobili
5) Vince Carter
7)
8)
9)
10)

Don't Forget to vote and make comments!
__________________

hey mile high !!!

its bugging me that vince and manu are tied, i think you should have another poll with just those two names .. for the 5th spot and the loser gets 6th

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
08-12-2008, 03:08 PM
Ray Allen!

J-N-M-ETS4LYF
08-12-2008, 03:08 PM
hey mile high !!!

its bugging me that vince and manu are tied, i think you should have another poll with just those two names .. for the 5th spot and the loser gets 6th

yea i think that would be the best thing to do as well.:clap:

crew158
08-12-2008, 05:58 PM
Id say rip. He is the best player on a team that went to the ECF 5-6 times in a row with a championship...

SaimoNETS
08-12-2008, 07:30 PM
Y ppl hatin on Vince!?!?!?!
Vince is top 3 when his healthy.

I voted for Joe Johnson (very underrated)

pwest6
08-12-2008, 07:34 PM
My vote's for Kevin Martin.

Hawkeye15
08-12-2008, 07:36 PM
So does that mean you don't consider Lebron better than half the league cuz he is way too young? They both r better than AI, even tho they r young. Lebron is even younger than Dwade and I bet u think Lebron is better than AI. Also I gotta go with Joe Johnson on this one, he's got mad skills.

currently, yes, they are both better than AI. AI's best days are long gone.

Hawkeye15
08-12-2008, 07:36 PM
How is in not JJ? He should have been #5.

GCOOKIE7
08-12-2008, 07:41 PM
joe hasn't done ***** in his career. I go for RIP

MiamiHeat
08-12-2008, 07:44 PM
joe hasn't done ***** in his career. I go for RIP

do u even know who he is?
******

Hawkeye15
08-12-2008, 07:49 PM
joe hasn't done ***** in his career. I go for RIP

Well, Joe didn't have Billups, Wallace, Wallace, Prince, etc on his team, or maybe we would be discussing his accomplishements

mikedesi1004
08-12-2008, 08:10 PM
Joe Johnson

IversonIsKrazy
08-12-2008, 08:13 PM
kevin martin.

VCaintdead17
08-12-2008, 09:21 PM
gotta go with ray here. especially coming right off that championship. some people just think he is a sharpshooter and thats all, buts not true. he can drive the lanes also. he even was in the nba slam dunk contest in 1997.

yaowowrocket11
08-12-2008, 09:26 PM
I voted Rip Hamilton. A proven winner, and has been an impact player for Detroit for years. And he is a Husky!

JERSEYCARTER15
08-12-2008, 09:31 PM
Ray Allen

sportwiz628
08-12-2008, 10:24 PM
wheres number 6?

im guessing vince and manu both tied in the votings for 5th.

still1ballin
08-12-2008, 10:36 PM
JJ once again

Drewlius
08-12-2008, 11:39 PM
joe JOhnson for sure.. even though i think he should be #6... but w/e hes a big time player.. def better than anyone on that list....

My list would be
1) KObe
2) wade
3) iverson
4) carter
5) tmac
6) joe Johnson
7) Andre Igodola if u consider him a sg
8) Rip Hamilton
9) Michael Redd
10) Brandon Roy
11) Kevin Martin
12) Jason Richardson
13) Manu Ginobli
14) Monta Ellis
15) Ray Allen

Rofl, what a god awful list.

Dirty Dirk41
08-12-2008, 11:40 PM
Rofl, what a god awful list.

:clap: lmao....i agree....itss soo bad

laker1000
08-13-2008, 12:13 AM
two words JOE JOHNSON

LakerzDQ
08-13-2008, 03:34 AM
Joe Johnson, and I think he's better than Ginobili.

Manu is so overrated, it's pretty funny.

MILESC04
08-13-2008, 01:37 PM
JJ 21.7 ppg 4.5 rpg 5.8 apg 43.2% shooting, 38.1% 3pt shooting 2.7 topg
Roy 19.1 ppg 4.7 rpg 5.8 apg 45.5% shooting, 35.5% 3pt shooting, 1.9 topg
Ellis 20.2 ppg 5.0 rpg 3.9 apg 53.1% shooting, 23.1% 3pt shooting, 2.2 topg
Redd 22.7 ppg 4.3 rpg 3.4 apg 44.3% shooting, 36.2% 3pt shooting, 2.5 topg
Jrich 21.8 ppg 5.4 rpg 3.1 apg 44.1% shooting, 40.6% 3pt shooting, 2.0 topg
KD 20.3 ppg 4.3 rpg 2.4 apg 43.0% shooting, 28.8% 3pt shooting, 2.9 topg
Kmart 23.7 ppg 4.5 rpg 2.1 apg 45.6% shooting, 40.2% 3pt shooting, 2.2 topg
Ray 17.4 ppg 3.7 rpg 3.1 apg 44.5% shooting, 39.8% 3pt shooting, 1.7 topg
Rip 17.3 ppg 3.3 rpg 4.2 apg 48.5% shooting, 44.0% 3pt shooting, 1.8 topg
Granger19.6 ppg 6.1 rpg 2.1 apg 44.6% shooting, 40.45 3pt shooting, 2.1 topg


Really, the differences in numbers of the rest of the guys left, is not that different. PPG are all within a 6 ppg spread, rpg are all withing 3ish, apg all within 3, shooting % has a 10% spread, and 3pt shooting a huge range, and topg a pretty narrow margin. It just really depends and what you're looking for your sg to be.



Dwade finals mvp two years ago, injured the past two years. What has iverson done the past 4 years in the playoffs?

well if your gonna go on dwades performance the past four years which is his career...lets do iversons career also...yea thats what i thought...dwades resume couldnt even stand next to iverson and iverson has never been injured an entire season...and some of iversons injurys were way worse than dwades....dwade is a dynamic player jus not better than iverson...dwade went to the finals one year and lead miami to an astonishing league worst record the next..iverson has never had any team have a league worst record...and plus dwade had shaq....give iverson shaq in 2006 and see wat he does