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Sports Illustrator
08-09-2008, 12:52 PM
There has been some uncertainty about some of you wanting keepers here or not. I also plan to increase the number of players in this league as well to make it more competitive, so this is why I thought it was a good idea to make a poll deciding whether we want to continue the system of keepers or start all over again.

The only people that can vote on this poll are the returning users from last year. If anyone else still votes, I will delete the vote.

Confirmed players who will be playing in League 1: Sports Illustrator, Chicago Whales, Bob_at_York, Indiansfan337, #24 Lakerland, Joshtd1, _Supreme_, John Kwon, LD V2.0, Devils05, Ruven, Lakerdeftones, nYk_way, Damngoat.

IndiansFan337
08-09-2008, 01:42 PM
If you vote, post what you voted for in here so we can debate.

This was a keeper league, so I voted for continue. That is, assuming we have most of the guys returning. If a drastic amount have quit, then I reserve judgment to change to starting over.

#24 Lakerland
08-09-2008, 01:49 PM
I think we should start over.

Sports Illustrator
08-09-2008, 01:50 PM
If you vote, post what you voted for in here so we can debate.

This was a keeper league, so I voted for continue. That is, assuming we have most of the guys returning. If a drastic amount have quit, then I reserve judgment to change to starting over.

It is going to continue as a keeper league, we're just voting on whether we should continue with our current keepers or start all over with new keepers.

You can also see who voted for which option there at the top, I made it visible for us to be able to see.

Bob_at_york
08-09-2008, 02:21 PM
Didn't we have a poll like this at the end of the season? I think we voted to stick with the keepers.

Sports Illustrator
08-09-2008, 02:30 PM
Didn't we have a poll like this at the end of the season? I think we voted to stick with the keepers.

The situations are very much different. There may be people leaving this league and aside from that, this league is expected to increase from 12 teams to 16 teams. A lot of complaints have been filed to me as well, about this situation. I figure whatever the league decides to do, that's what we'll do.

#24 Lakerland
08-09-2008, 02:51 PM
I don't like the 16 teams though. 12 is fine but if you guys want to push the envelope 14 isn't bad.

Chicago Whales
08-09-2008, 03:01 PM
I'm not a big fan of having a 16 team league as well 12 is good, 14 at the most. I voted to start over, I just want to mix things up some.

PackCrewBuckBad
08-13-2008, 01:00 AM
I vote start over so i can join :)

Bob_at_york
08-13-2008, 08:35 AM
I honesty don't care.

Sports Illustrator
08-15-2008, 10:37 PM
I don't like the 16 teams though. 12 is fine but if you guys want to push the envelope 14 isn't bad.


I'm not a big fan of having a 16 team league as well 12 is good, 14 at the most. I voted to start over, I just want to mix things up some.

I personally think the bigger the leagues are, the better they are. If the majority of the league thinks it should be 14 teams then it shall be 14.

If you all can tell me whether you think 14 or 16 is better, I'd appreciate it.

_Supreme_
08-16-2008, 03:06 PM
I didn't vote since it's for returning people only, but I'd be in favor of starting over without keepers also if anyone cares :smoking:

Bob_at_york
08-16-2008, 03:11 PM
I didn't vote since it's for returning people only, but I'd be in favor of starting over without keepers also if anyone cares :smoking:

weren't you in last year?

I didn't vote because I really don't care

#24 Lakerland
08-16-2008, 03:33 PM
I go with 14.

Sports Illustrator
08-16-2008, 03:35 PM
I didn't vote since it's for returning people only, but I'd be in favor of starting over without keepers also if anyone cares :smoking:

I'm willing to change the number of teams and even starting over with keepers. This is a keepers league though and that will not be eliminated by any means.

_Supreme_
08-17-2008, 07:53 AM
I'm willing to change the number of teams and even starting over with keepers. This is a keepers league though and that will not be eliminated by any means.

Yes I meant starting over with keepers, not that it shouldn't be a keeper league.

_Supreme_
08-17-2008, 07:59 AM
weren't you in last year?

I was supposed to be, but it turned out I couldn't be around to draft my team properly.

LD V2.0
08-17-2008, 11:17 PM
I think we should stay the course. The keeper rules are in place so that owners who land juggernaut type fantasy producers can't ride those players indefinitely, they have to give them up after a couple seasons. I think this is fair because if they're worthy of a championship then they can find another way to win it.

By the way, I can't wait for the upcoming fantasy season. Last season was an awesome experience, you guys are good.

IndiansFan337
08-20-2008, 03:15 PM
It is going to continue as a keeper league, we're just voting on whether we should continue with our current keepers or start all over with new keepers.

You can also see who voted for which option there at the top, I made it visible for us to be able to see.

I know.

I vote for 14 as well & to keep our keepers.

It isn't a keeper league if we keep drafting all new players every few years.
Don't join if you aren't committed to playing for years to come.

IndiansFan337
08-20-2008, 03:17 PM
Yes I meant starting over with keepers, not that it shouldn't be a keeper league.

That's exactly what I meant too, SI.

Sports Illustrator
08-22-2008, 10:19 PM
I know.

I vote for 14 as well & to keep our keepers.

It isn't a keeper league if we keep drafting all new players every few years.
Don't join if you aren't committed to playing for years to come.

That is a good point. We've had so many changes over the course of years that at this point I wouldn't think it'd matter to start all over again. Unfortunately lots of people have left already.

I personally don't care, I just don't want any excuses when the particular keepers of users are worse than others and that is the reason why I had wanted to start all over.

LD V2.0
08-24-2008, 10:50 PM
Add the end of the day its your choice to keep one, two or no players. Thats the thing.

nYk_wAy
08-28-2008, 03:31 PM
I'm definitely returning to defend my title.

I say 14 people, and as for keepers, I don't mind. I guess we can start over, but from this draft on, no more questions like this popping up before each season.

Sports Illustrator
08-29-2008, 01:05 PM
I'm definitely returning to defend my title.

I say 14 people, and as for keepers, I don't mind. I guess we can start over, but from this draft on, no more questions like this popping up before each season.

That is most likely what will end up happening. I seems like its all set now.

14 teams with all new keepers and we won't start over again anymore.

#24 Lakerland
08-29-2008, 04:53 PM
That is most likely what will end up happening. I seems like its all set now.

14 teams with all new keepers and we won't start over again anymore.
Looks good.

nYk_wAy
08-29-2008, 08:47 PM
Yup sounds good. Can't wait to get this started.

LD V2.0
09-03-2008, 10:09 PM
That is most likely what will end up happening. I seems like its all set now.

14 teams with all new keepers and we won't start over again anymore.

Random draft order?

Chicago Whales
09-03-2008, 10:11 PM
Random draft order?

If were starting all over, then we should have a random order

Sports Illustrator
09-03-2008, 10:32 PM
Random draft order?

Yes most likely. In reality its up to whatever the entire league decides to do.

In the following years though, the orders will not be random hence this being a keepers league.

nYk_wAy
09-05-2008, 02:36 PM
I think the champ should get the 1st pick, at least a top 3 pick, gotta have some kind of reward for winning. Usually they have a great set of keepers already but since we're starting fresh, should have a good pick.

#24 Lakerland
09-05-2008, 03:32 PM
I think the champ should get the 1st pick, at least a top 3 pick, gotta have some kind of reward for winning. Usually they have a great set of keepers already but since we're starting fresh, should have a good pick.
Don't like that idea.

Chicago Whales
09-05-2008, 08:08 PM
Don't like that idea.

Same here, if we want to play for a "reward" we should play for money (which I think most of the players and site owners would be against) otherwise just play because you love to play fantasybball. If you still want to play for some reward make some other league and let the other folk that really want to play in league 1, play.

Even next year who ever the winner is I don't think they should have the top pick, it should be the lower standing teams with the top picks.
Just my two cents

#24 Lakerland
09-06-2008, 02:35 AM
Same here, if we want to play for a "reward" we should play for money (which I think most of the players and site owners would be against) otherwise just play because you love to play fantasybball. If you still want to play for some reward make some other league and let the other folk that really want to play in league 1, play.

Even next year who ever the winner is I don't think they should have the top pick, it should be the lower standing teams with the top picks.
Just my two cents
Even though that idea is better, I just think if we just do it random everyone would be happy.

_Supreme_
09-06-2008, 08:02 AM
I thought usually the champ gets to pick last like in the real NBA :D

nYk_wAy
09-06-2008, 01:12 PM
That makes no sense whatsoever.

Top teams get lower picks because they have an advantage and already have good teams. If we're starting all over, that makes no sense to give them lower picks.

Whatever, I'll work with whatever pick I end up with I guess.

LD V2.0
09-17-2008, 09:19 PM
If the league is resetting then the draft order should be random. Let Yahoo determine the order.

IndiansFan337
09-24-2008, 01:38 PM
If we do keepers, SI, I want Deron Williams as my #2 keeper.

If we are not doing keepers, the new users should be picking last. They're already getting the advantage that our former keepers are going to be available to them in Round 1.

Sports Illustrator
09-24-2008, 09:34 PM
If we do keepers, SI, I want Deron Williams as my #2 keeper.

If we are not doing keepers, the new users should be picking last. They're already getting the advantage that our former keepers are going to be available to them in Round 1.

Yea I think we all settled this already. We will be starting over with the keepers rule and the draft will be done randomly.

cambovenzi
09-25-2008, 05:11 AM
i almost voted:pity:

boms-4
09-25-2008, 01:21 PM
who is all in the league?

Bob_at_york
09-25-2008, 03:36 PM
who is all in the league?

All the guys who posted in this thread or if that is tough to figure out, how about the first post:


Confirmed players who will be playing in League 1: Sports Illustrator, Chicago Whales, Bob_at_York, Indiansfan337, #24 Lakerland, Joshtd1, _Supreme_, John Kwon, LD V2.0, Devils05, Ruven, Lakerdeftones, nYk_way, Damngoat.

LD V2.0
09-26-2008, 10:46 AM
So when are we all going to talk about a draft date?

rico
09-26-2008, 12:22 PM
may i join too? :)

#24 Lakerland
09-26-2008, 03:06 PM
may i join too? :)
Do you have an Iranian passport?

IndiansFan337
09-26-2008, 05:42 PM
may i join too? :)
Not this year.


Do you have an Iranian passport?
Who let you back in this league? I thought after last year's performance you should be banned for life, like Pete Rose.

IndiansFan337
09-26-2008, 05:42 PM
Did we only use these 9 categories last year?

Chicago Whales
09-26-2008, 11:49 PM
So when are we all going to talk about a draft date?

I vote for a late October sat or sun draft at night. October 14, 18 ??

rico
09-27-2008, 02:28 AM
Do you have an Iranian passport?
i have an american one?


Not this year.


Who let you back in this league? I thought after last year's performance you should be banned for life, like Pete Rose.
:cry:

#24 Lakerland
09-27-2008, 09:08 AM
Not this year.


Who let you back in this league? I thought after last year's performance you should be banned for life, like Pete Rose.
I didn't do bad. I was like close to getting into the playoffs.

#24 Lakerland
09-27-2008, 09:08 AM
i have an american one?


:cry:
Then you're not allowed. I recommend you getting a visa.

LD V2.0
09-28-2008, 02:43 PM
I just registered. I hope we keep this draft on the weekend as I work all week and I live out west now.

#24 Lakerland
09-28-2008, 03:33 PM
As long as it's around noon Pacific TIME I'm down for any day.

LD V2.0
10-01-2008, 01:06 PM
I love the current draft day and time. It really works well for me. Saturday is a good day.

Sports Illustrator
10-01-2008, 01:10 PM
I love the current draft day and time. It really works well for me. Saturday is a good day.

It will definitely be on a Saturday. The time is to be determined but I wouldn't have a problem with that time, that's probably the best time for me but I am willing to change it if the rest of the league wants it to be changed.

LD V2.0
10-01-2008, 01:24 PM
Yeah, people out east just need to remember us guys out west. We don't wanna have to get up at 7AM on a Saturday. ;)

That would be my only issue.

Question: How are we doing draft order? Is it a lock to be random?

Sports Illustrator
10-01-2008, 01:27 PM
Yeah, people out east just need to remember us guys out west. We don't wanna have to get up at 7AM on a Saturday. ;)

That would be my only issue.

Question: How are we doing draft order? Is it a lock to be random?

Didn't you just say you love the current draft day and time? I am aware we have people from the South but if they don't like the time, they must let it be known.

The draft order will be done at random.

_Supreme_
10-04-2008, 04:09 PM
Well unfortunately I have to work at the time the draft is set now, but if this time is perfect for everyone else I guess I'll just have to pre-rank (and get a sucky team probably :D)

Sports Illustrator
10-04-2008, 04:49 PM
If anyone else has an issue with the draft day and time, please let it be known as soon as possible because I will not move it if you tell me within short notice, I will assume the majority of the league were fine with it.

#24 Lakerland
10-04-2008, 11:22 PM
The time and date is good for me.:up:

IndiansFan337
10-10-2008, 07:54 AM
So I assume we are keeping it for this Sat at 1:00pm ET?

Bob_at_york
10-10-2008, 08:30 AM
So I assume we are keeping it for this Sat at 1:00pm ET?

I guess so. I just found out I might not be available but it will probably work out fine any ways.

IndiansFan337
10-10-2008, 02:48 PM
I guess so. I just found out I might not be available but it will probably work out fine any ways.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people don't show up.

No one seems to be posting often in here, or even checking this very often.

Everyone isn't as into it as they used to be when we hard some hardcore guys like ala, ruven, ari, etc.

Bob_at_york
10-10-2008, 03:03 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people don't show up.

No one seems to be posting often in here, or even checking this very often.

I have been keeping track but not commenting because I had nothing to say. I thought the draft time was great until my Mom decided to have Thanksgiving Dinner on saturday instead of sunday.

Sports Illustrator
10-10-2008, 03:08 PM
Only people who has said that won't be in the draft is Bob and Supreme. Who ever else doesn't show up, that means they must have forgotten or also couldn't make it but didn't let it be known.

I said before that if people don't like the time to let me know beforehand but right now I can't change it. If people want it changed, the best I can do is move it back by a half hour or one hour.

Chicago Whales
10-10-2008, 04:51 PM
I have been keeping track but not commenting because I had nothing to say. I thought the draft time was great until my Mom decided to have Thanksgiving Dinner on saturday instead of sunday.

Damn, you learn something new everyday. I had no idea thanksgiving was in Oct. for Canadians.

Devils05
10-10-2008, 07:21 PM
Damn, you learn something new everyday. I had no idea thanksgiving was in Oct. for Canadians.Just looked i up. It's on Oct 13

_Supreme_
10-11-2008, 10:16 AM
I have pre-ranked, so I should have a decent team at least :pray:. The last (and only) time I ever pre-ranked last year it turned out allright.

At the exact time the draft starts I will arrive at work, where unfortunately they don't have the flash/java/whatever installed to be able to use the Yahoo draft software.

So whenever you guys are done I'll be able to see my team and whine/be happy about it :D

Bob_at_york
10-11-2008, 10:32 AM
I have pre-ranked, so I should have a decent team at least :pray:. The last (and only) time I ever pre-ranked last year it turned out allright.
I also pre-ranked but I am hoping to pop in on dial-up.

Sports Illustrator
10-11-2008, 11:24 AM
I also Pre-ranked.

I am expecting to make the draft but it is always good to pre-rank because you never know what can happen.

#24 Lakerland
10-11-2008, 11:31 AM
1 hour and 30 min till the draft.

_Supreme_
10-11-2008, 11:36 AM
1 hour and 30 min till the draft.

I heard you are looking to pick Hamed Haddadi in the first round :cool:

nYk_wAy
10-11-2008, 12:03 PM
Draft can't come any sooner...

#24 Lakerland
10-11-2008, 12:22 PM
I heard you are looking to pick Hamed Haddadi in the first round :cool:
:laugh2: Thinking about it.

Sports Illustrator
10-11-2008, 12:29 PM
Just so you all know, I changed it from 14 to 12 people not too long ago in case if Lakerdeftones or ruven decide to signup at the last minute and we end up with 13 players, we'd be screwed.

I notified ruven 3 times about signing up and he still didn't signup.

#24 Lakerland
10-11-2008, 12:32 PM
Just so you all know, I changed it from 14 to 12 people not too long ago in case if Lakerdeftones or ruven decide to signup at the last minute and we end up with 13 players, we'd be screwed.

I notified ruven 3 times about signing up and he still didn't signup.
Alright, looks good.

#24 Lakerland
10-11-2008, 12:46 PM
Man i got #1 pick. Lebron or Kobe?

_Supreme_
10-11-2008, 01:23 PM
Man i got #1 pick. Lebron or Kobe?

Hamed Haddadi of course!

But otherwise: Lebron

I noticed I have pick #6, but I can't see who's drafting who :ohno:

I figure, considering my pre-ranks, I got Wade or Elton Brand with my pick (unless someone took them top 5)?

_Supreme_
10-11-2008, 02:11 PM
:sleep:

_Supreme_
10-11-2008, 02:38 PM
I just saw my team, and daaaaaamn did I seriously get all those players :speechless:


:dance:

Devils05
10-11-2008, 02:42 PM
I just saw my team, and daaaaaamn did I seriously get all those players :speechless:


:dance:
Yeah it went pretty well for a prerank

_Supreme_
10-11-2008, 02:51 PM
Yeah it went pretty well for a prerank

I sure expected a hell of a lot worse.

Wade and Dwight were both in my pre-rank top 6 :smoking:

The only thing I need to do is get another point guard, but I should be able to fix that somehow.

_Supreme_
10-11-2008, 03:01 PM
So were there any people who forgot about the draft and didn't show up?

Edit: I suspect there were a few, like the one team which only has Troy Murphy as it's only center....

Bob_at_york
10-12-2008, 02:29 AM
I showed up at round #9 and pre-ranked a few more guys. I was helping out around the house and kept coming back to check on things. So although I reached for some guys, I was getting guys I liked/wanted. What do people think of my team? Too many PGs?

LD V2.0
10-13-2008, 08:41 PM
I missed the draft but I preranked the 1st 200 picks and I think I made out really well.

Bob_at_york
10-13-2008, 08:45 PM
I like my starters. Kindof funny how I ended up with so many 76ers. Not sure about my bench.

LD V2.0
10-13-2008, 08:54 PM
I'm looking for PG upgrade.

Bob_at_york
10-13-2008, 09:11 PM
I'm looking for PG upgrade.

I have many. Talk to me.

LD V2.0
10-14-2008, 12:31 PM
Will do. I'll scan your roster some time today and drop a few ideas on the table.

Sports Illustrator
10-15-2008, 12:36 AM
I am also willing to talk trade. I happen to have solid PG's available too.