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RedSoxtober
08-08-2008, 09:01 AM
Boston Red Sox (66-49) @ Chicago White Sox (63-50)


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Location: US Cellular Field (http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/ballpark/index.jsp)


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Game 1

Friday, August 8 - 7:11 ET



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BOS: LHP Jon Lester (10-3, 3.14) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/lestejo01.shtml) vs CWS: LHP Mark Buehrle (8-10, 4.07) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/buehrma01.shtml)


Red Sox: The lefty continues to pitch like an ace. In his last start, he allowed two runs over seven innings in a win over the A's. Lester has gone seven innings or more in his last five starts, and eight of his last nine. He is 6-0 with a 2.67 ERA over that span. This will be Lester's second career start at U.S. Cellular Field. The first one came in 2006, when he picked up a win by allowing two runs over six innings.



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White Sox: Buehrle would like to forget his Saturday start against the Royals. In what was arguably his worst start of the season, Buehrle allowed eight runs and surrendered 14 hits in 4 1/3 innings. He gave up two home runs and struck out only one batter. Buehrle succeeds by letting hitters put the ball in play and giving his defense the work, but he gave up 10 line drives to Royals hitting, a total from which even he cannot recover. Buehrle has yet to face Boston this season, but is 4-4 with a 4.46 ERA against the Red Sox lifetime.




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Game 2

Saturday, August 9 - 6:05 ET



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BOS: RHP Daisuke Matsuzaka (12-2, 3.04) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/matsuda01.shtml) vs CWS: RHP Jose Contreras (7-6, 4.60) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/contrjo01.shtml)



Red Sox: Matsuzaka bounced back from a subpar outing against the Angels (six runs, seven hits in five innings) to pitch six strong innings for his team-high 12th win his last time out. He limited the A's to two runs on four hits last Sunday, striking out eight and walking two to beat Oakland for the second time in three starts this year. He has lost only once since June 21, winning four times since then, with a 2.38 ERA. Matsuzaka is 0-1 in one career start against the White Sox, but takes a 5-0 season road record to the mound for this start. He is 12-8 away from Fenway Park during his two-year career in the Major Leagues.



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White Sox: Contreras is expected to come off the 15-day disabled list to make Saturday's start against Boston. The right-hander started one game on a rehab assignment with Triple-A Charlotte on Sunday, pitching five innings and surrendering three runs on four hits and three walks. He also struck out four. Prior to landing on the DL with right elbow tendinitis, Contreras struggled. He allowed at least three runs to score in seven straight starts and never made it out of the seventh inning. And Contreras has historically struggled against the Red Sox, compiling a 9.12 ERA in 10 appearances against them.



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Game 3

Sunday, August 10 - 1:05 ET



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BOS: RHP Clay Buchholz (2-7, 5.94) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/buchhcl01.shtml) vs RHP Gavin Floyd (11-6, 3.66) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/f/floydga01.shtml)



Red Sox: One big inning continues to haunt Buchholz. In his last start against the Royals, the bottom of the third was the troublesome one, as he allowed three runs in what turned out a 4-3 loss. In five starts since returning from Triple-A Pawtucket, Buchholz is 0-4 with a 6.59 ERA. Perhaps something clicked for Buchholz in the last three innings of that start, when he didn't allow a run. This will be Buchholz's first career appearance against the White Sox.





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White Sox: Floyd was unimpressive against the Tigers on Tuesday. He lasted just four-plus innings and allowed five runs on eight hits and two walks. He gave up a two-run home run in the first to Placido Polanco and another in the fifth to Curtis Granderson shortly before he exited the game. It was the third time this season that he's been pulled before getting through five innings. Floyd has never started a game against Boston but did appear once in relief last season. In 3 2/3 innings, Floyd allowed four earned runs, including two home runs.





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Game 3

Monday, August 11 - 7:11 ET



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BOS: RHP Josh Beckett (10-8, 4.08) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/beckejo02.shtml) vs LHP John Danks (9-4, 3.21) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/danksjo01.shtml)



Red Sox: Beckett was impressive in his last start, giving up four hits and two runs over 6 2/3 innings, striking out seven in a win over the Royals. It was Beckett's first victory since July 9. The right-hander has pitched well on the road this season despite a 5-5 record, posting a 3.38 ERA in 12 starts. Beckett is holding opponents to a .256 average.





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White Sox: Danks got himself and his club back on track on Wednesday against the Tigers. After a taxing 14-inning game the previous night, Danks gave the White Sox 6 2/3 innings of quality pitching, surrendering just one run on four hits. He walked just one batter and struck out six. He had struggled in his previous three starts since the All-Star break in which he had allowed a combined 14 earned runs. He hasn't faced the Sox this season, but got lit pretty bad twice last year against them. He allowed nine runs in 9 1/3 innings against the Red Sox in 2007, walking five against four strikeouts.






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Tankjeep
08-08-2008, 11:33 AM
keep the wins coming.

Tragedy
08-08-2008, 12:12 PM
Guarantee a loss in game 3.

We have a decent shot at game 1 and 2, though.

White Sox are a tough team. This will not be a simple series at all.

-Lavigne43-
08-08-2008, 12:27 PM
I am hoping we take 3/4 but we will probably split

papipapsmanny
08-08-2008, 12:38 PM
we throwing 3 of our best pitchers out there i am hoping to take 3

RedSoxtober
08-08-2008, 12:50 PM
Guarantee a loss in game 3.

We have a decent shot at game 1 and 2, though.

White Sox are a tough team. This will not be a simple series at all.

I honestly think it'll be easier than you think... and I don't know that Game 3 is quite the gimme you're suggesting either. Floyd got hammered last time out and he's been fairly inconsistent in his last five or six starts. I'd venture to say that it could be fatigue starting to set in; he's roughly 30IP from his highest career IP total and it's pretty likely that he's thrown the most innings at this point in any season.

Okay, this could be wishful thinking because I hate Ozzie.

-Lavigne43-
08-08-2008, 03:24 PM
With the way Lester has pitched recently I expect good things tonight

kazzy4080
08-08-2008, 03:49 PM
i think we'll take 3 out of the 4. for whatever reason i think bucholz will get the W

JimmyMal450
08-08-2008, 06:43 PM
Hopefully we'll take 3 of 4. Hopefully Lester and Dice can continue to pitch well.

TDbank24
08-08-2008, 07:22 PM
Big series with the White Sox, looking for Lester to do well tonight

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 07:38 PM
i think we'll take 3 out of the 4. for whatever reason i think bucholz will get the W

If Buchholz wins, who loses? :confused:

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-08-2008, 07:38 PM
I am a bit curious about why Jacoby is not in the lineup after 2 multi-hit games. Does Tito think now is the best time to rest him when he is heating up?

Brooke
08-08-2008, 07:48 PM
Let's Go Red Sox! I am hoping they take 3 out of 4

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 08:52 PM
This has pitchers duel written all over it..

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-08-2008, 08:59 PM
What is up with Ortiz? I am curious to see if he is the same hitter without Manny... so far the answer is no.

bosox1899
08-08-2008, 09:14 PM
well coco did what he does best with people on base..hit a pop up. As for Ortiz, we cant rely on him right now hes not hitting anything out of the infield, so far you are right JacobyIsMyHomie, he isn't the same hitter without Manny.

TDbank24
08-08-2008, 09:25 PM
Orlando Cabrera. Oh how i miss you :( probably Theo's only mistake in a great tenure as Red Sox GM

bosox1899
08-08-2008, 09:27 PM
lester is looking like the lester of the beginning of the season in this game

Petertherock
08-08-2008, 09:31 PM
I really am starting to think Ortiz's wrist is bothering him still.

Greenmonster24
08-08-2008, 09:32 PM
Theo made more mistakes then Cabera. He got Kim and gave him a extention and had to trade his salary to get rid of him. Gagne didn't exactly work out good either. Jay Payton and Renteria were disasters. So wasn't Clement. Jeremy Gaimbi also really sucked here. He does a great job drafting guys and he nows what players to resign and that are here and what ones to let walk but he not as good as people think with free agents. He had a hard time besides last year putting a good bullpen together. He has a big budget and can sign 6 players figuring one will work out great and DFA the other 5. I actually like that approach sometimes. Buy in bulk as the top guys out there aren't worth the risk you take signing them. Mostly in the bullpen where every year a person chances alot from previous year.

bosox1899
08-08-2008, 09:42 PM
once again this offense sucks on the road, theres no way we go far this season if we cant do **** on the road, it feels like the NBA playoffs with the Celtics, we won all our home games but lost almost all the road games, thankfully they had home court advantage, the red sox better win the division so we dont have to play the Angels

bosox1899
08-08-2008, 09:48 PM
these guys just keep swinging at everything, unfortunately mostly ****** pitches too... lowell had a 2-1 count and swings at one down near the dirt, no patience whatsoever

Now Lowrie with a 2-0 count swings at one near the dirt again and hits into a double play, beautiful. why cant these guys just be patient make buehrle throw you a strike instead of just swinging at whatever hoping for a HR!!

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-08-2008, 09:57 PM
I feel bad for Lester.... 3 hits through 7 innings and this guy is giving us another quality start. I thought this would be the one for sure win in this series.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:08 PM
I can't stand to watch. Tell me what happens. :ohno:

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:10 PM
**** Yeah!

TDbank24
08-08-2008, 10:11 PM
Pedroiaaaaa 3 run shot, he is simply awesome

JimmyMal450
08-08-2008, 10:11 PM
There you go Dusty!!!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:12 PM
How's that for some clutch hitting? :D

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:12 PM
There you go Dusty!!!

Daaamn, that is a sick sig Jimmy. :D

JimmyMal450
08-08-2008, 10:14 PM
Daaamn, that is a sick sig Jimmy. :D

Thanks Bean Town, I've been working hard on this one.

bosox1899
08-08-2008, 10:15 PM
ortiz is starting to become an automatic out, that pitch should have been a line drive to the opposite field instead he grounds out yet again, that run we gave up in the 7th is gonna come back and kill us, no way they should have let Cabrera score on that play

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:18 PM
Thanks Bean Town, I've been working hard on this one.

I can tell, I'm really liking the background and the lettering. :D

JimmyMal450
08-08-2008, 10:19 PM
Lowell...:pity:

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:20 PM
He shouldn't have swung at that.

kazzy4080
08-08-2008, 10:20 PM
hopefully we can pull this out

JimmyMal450
08-08-2008, 10:20 PM
I can tell, I'm really liking the background and the lettering. :D

Personally I thought the K's were pretty creative :D

kazzy4080
08-08-2008, 10:23 PM
****

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:23 PM
Personally I thought the K's were pretty creative :D

Yeahh, the K signs are what stood out the most to me. :D Once I learn how to put videos in sigs, my sigs will be so much better. :D

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:24 PM
:bang:

tonyd3b54
08-08-2008, 10:27 PM
since papi has come back his front side has been flying out in his swing... this is causing him to be late on the ball and resulting in the routine flies u see... then hes trying to overcompensate for this and swing earlier which is resulting on him grounding out to 1st and 2nd.... hell get it together he just needs to keep his front side closed...i give him a few weeks tops until hes papi again...

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:28 PM
Damn, 99mph.

kazzy4080
08-08-2008, 10:31 PM
yo bean 5 towne is it cool if i use ur jd drew sig?

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:34 PM
Yeahh go ahead. :D

bosox1899
08-08-2008, 10:35 PM
hey jimmymal, you do realize your sig has the KKK sign in it right haha, i just wanted to point that out Im not saying I have a problem with it...

god i hate varitek, hes useless at the plate, a pop up? pathetic

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:38 PM
****

JimmyMal450
08-08-2008, 10:41 PM
hey jimmymal, you do realize your sig has the KKK sign in it right haha, i just wanted to point that out Im not saying I have a problem with it...

god i hate varitek, hes useless at the plate, a pop up? pathetic

Yeah i just realized that. I figured it wouldn't be that obvious.

kazzy4080
08-08-2008, 10:41 PM
******....

bosox1899
08-08-2008, 10:41 PM
i cant tell you how pissed i am now! wtf are you doing casey? 3-1 pitch and you check swing on the high pitch, grrrrrr! what a ****** offensive game for the sox, this may have been one of the worse ones with all those bad pitches they swung at showing no patience at the plate

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:44 PM
Meh, still hoping for 3/4. Split if Buchh does the usual.

gcoll
08-08-2008, 10:45 PM
Eh. Buehrle had his A game I guess.

This is a 4 game series. It will end in a split.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-08-2008, 10:46 PM
Eh. Buehrle had his A game I guess.

This is a 4 game series. It will end in a split.

Yeahh, I think Buehrle was getting tired though, I mean, he gave up a hit to Tek. :D

Dotel didn't do so hot either though...

Tragedy
08-08-2008, 10:52 PM
i cant tell you how pissed i am now! wtf are you doing casey? 3-1 pitch and you check swing on the high pitch, grrrrrr! what a ****** offensive game for the sox, this may have been one of the worse ones with all those bad pitches they swung at showing no patience at the plate
Do us all a favor, and grow up. I'm not even joking. All you bring to the IGT's are negative rants because your team can't manage to go 162-0. My god.

As for the game, really, really bad. This just set us up to lose the series, IMO. I have no confidence that Buchholz can beat this team.

bosox1899
08-08-2008, 11:10 PM
Do us all a favor, and grow up. I'm not even joking. All you bring to the IGT's are negative rants because your team can't manage to go 162-0. My god.

As for the game, really, really bad. This just set us up to lose the series, IMO. I have no confidence that Buchholz can beat this team.

wtf are you talking about? Do you own this forum or something? Can I not say how bad our offense was tonight? Jesus, you always have to come on this board and act like the big guy telling people what to say and what to do.. when the **** did I say I expected this team to go 162-0? Learn how to interpret things before you go lecturing us on what to write. You write what you want and ignore what I write then if you can't stand freedom of speech, its ridiculous.

Tragedy
08-09-2008, 12:12 AM
wtf are you talking about? Do you own this forum or something? Can I not say how bad our offense was tonight? Jesus, you always have to come on this board and act like the big guy telling people what to say and what to do.. when the **** did I say I expected this team to go 162-0? Learn how to interpret things before you go lecturing us on what to write. You write what you want and ignore what I write then if you can't stand freedom of speech, its ridiculous.

No, it's the fact that I come into the IGT after almost all games, and after any loss, you're the ONLY person in here that is acting like we just lost Game 7 of the World Series. As I said, we aren't going 162-0. If you do not understand the analogy in that, then that's fine. I'm not telling anyone what to write, but ALL your comments in IGT's are completely negative.

bosox1899
08-09-2008, 12:23 AM
No, it's the fact that I come into the IGT after almost all games, and after any loss, you're the ONLY person in here that is acting like we just lost Game 7 of the World Series. As I said, we aren't going 162-0. If you do not understand the analogy in that, then that's fine. I'm not telling anyone what to write, but ALL your comments in IGT's are completely negative.

its tough to write positive things when the team plays like crap and loses rather than play a good game but still end up losing. Tonight for example, we had opportunities but they are swinging at 2-0 counts when the ball is in the dirt, grounding into double plays with RISP w/ less than 2 outs, making fundamental blunders like letting Cabrera score from first on that base hit by Podsednik, stupid things like that. They rarely play a well rounded game without making those stupid mistakes when they lose. I dont care if we lose 50-0 as long as these million dollar athletes aren't playing like theyre in little league

Tragedy
08-09-2008, 12:24 AM
its tough to write positive things when the team plays like crap and loses rather than play a good game but still end up losing. Tonight for example, we had opportunities but they are swinging at 2-0 counts when the ball is in the dirt, grounding into double plays with RISP w/ less than 2 outs, making fundamental blunders like letting Cabrera score from first on that base hit by Podsednik, stupid things like that. They rarely play a well rounded game without making those stupid mistakes when they lose. I dont care if we lose 50-0 as long as these million dollar athletes aren't playing like theyre in little league

And as long as they get to 95+ wins and make the Playoffs, why get so bent out of shape on the 60 times they lose?

bosox1899
08-09-2008, 12:27 AM
And as long as they get to 95+ wins and make the Playoffs, why get so bent out of shape on the 60 times they lose?

bc even if they make the playoffs they will still make these mistakes, all i want to see is more patience at the plate and most of all stop choking when they have men in scoring position with less than 2 outs.

JimmyMal450
08-09-2008, 12:48 AM
Can someone tell me why Jacoby didn't start tonight?

Tragedy
08-09-2008, 12:50 AM
Can someone tell me why Jacoby didn't start tonight?

Buerhle = lefty.
Ellsbury = lefty.

JimmyMal450
08-09-2008, 12:51 AM
Oh obvious question now that I think about it.

JDIsMyGod23
08-09-2008, 01:01 AM
Also Coco Crisp owns us, and owns Buehrle.

gcoll
08-09-2008, 02:19 AM
As for the game, really, really bad. This just set us up to lose the series, IMO. I have no confidence that Buchholz can beat this team.


It's a 4 game series. (not sure if you knew that or not)

Even if we lose Buchholz's start.....if we win with Dice-K and Beckett on the mound, we split.

TDbank24
08-09-2008, 10:50 AM
I'd be happy with a split, can't afford to lose too many more games and fall out of the division completely

kazzy4080
08-09-2008, 06:55 PM
yanks lost, hopefully we can win tonight

kazzy4080
08-09-2008, 07:37 PM
thats when jacobys speed comes in handy, the sox might get lucky knocking jose out of the game and get into the bullpen and hurt the pen for the next couple of the night. i dont like cheering for injuries but it does help the sox hopefully jose be ok

bosox1899
08-09-2008, 08:05 PM
wow the heart of our lineup, strikes out, pops out, strikes out haha...I love it :rolleyes:

kazzy4080
08-09-2008, 08:08 PM
**** i feel a dice-k blow up inning coming

Towelie
08-09-2008, 08:08 PM
watching Dice K makes me so sick...how the hell is ERA so low.

kazzy4080
08-09-2008, 08:10 PM
**** i feel a dice-k blow up inning coming

dice-k showed me up

Towelie
08-09-2008, 08:20 PM
He gets himself into so much trouble. Hits a batter then goes 3-0 on the next. THROW A ****ING STRIKE!!

kazzy4080
08-09-2008, 08:31 PM
our offense is pathetic...

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-09-2008, 08:37 PM
DiceK always makes me so nervous... :ohno:

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-09-2008, 08:42 PM
God I miss O-Cab...

Towelie
08-09-2008, 08:43 PM
How does this guy always walk everyone. And it's not a working the count walk it's a 4-0 walk.

kazzy4080
08-09-2008, 08:43 PM
God I miss O-Cab...

me too, whenever my friends and i talk bout the sox's short stop situation i always bring him up

bosox1899
08-09-2008, 08:43 PM
i wish dice k could throw strikes for once! how many ****ing walks is he gonna give up, now we re down 1-0 nothing and I'm not confident our offense can come back from that deficit

kazzy4080
08-09-2008, 08:56 PM
i wish dice k could throw strikes for once! how many ****ing walks is he gonna give up, now we re down 1-0 nothing and I'm not confident our offense can come back from that deficit

we can get a run... lol

Brooke
08-09-2008, 09:15 PM
YAY Papi!

bosox1899
08-09-2008, 09:16 PM
we can get a run... lol

lol well they certainly fooled me :D, looks like the walks are killing chicago too

kazzy4080
08-09-2008, 09:17 PM
ortiz with a clutch hit, hopefully we can keep this inning going and get a bunch more insurance runs

bosox1899
08-09-2008, 09:20 PM
well there goes the rally, hopefully the 4 runs will hold up

Brooke
08-09-2008, 09:31 PM
Jacoby!!

kazzy4080
08-09-2008, 09:32 PM
guess someone is out of their slump...

kazzy4080
08-09-2008, 09:41 PM
:clap: mad props to dice-k, great start

sboyajian
08-09-2008, 10:06 PM
now that was a quality start.. can't believe he went 8 innings.

bosox1899
08-09-2008, 10:13 PM
i too am surprised by Dice-K going 8 but as he always does he pitches himself out of trouble, great outting and finally the offense woke up

papipapsmanny
08-09-2008, 10:14 PM
nice start for Dice-K

my sig is till proving to be the difference for ellsbury

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-09-2008, 10:16 PM
Damn man, is anybody else watching the little league world series? Ohio, Indianna game is in the tenth. :ohno:

Brooke
08-09-2008, 10:23 PM
nice outing by Dice-K :)

kazzy4080
08-09-2008, 10:26 PM
Damn man, is anybody else watching the little league world series? Ohio, Indianna game is in the tenth. :ohno:

ohio's catcher sucks

JimmyMal450
08-09-2008, 10:27 PM
Great game tonight...Dice-K pitched great, Jacoby got a HR, Ortiz got 3 hits, even Lowell had 2 hits. Great game for everyone.

Towelie
08-09-2008, 10:29 PM
Dice K piched mediocre at best. He's a very lucky guy.Has been this whole year.

kazzy4080
08-09-2008, 10:30 PM
ohio's catcher sucks

dude cant block a ball in the dirt, he hs like 4 pass balls this inning

gcoll
08-09-2008, 10:36 PM
8 innings, 4 hits, 1 run, 3 walks.......I only saw the first 3 or 4 innings...but that seems a lot better than "mediocre"

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-09-2008, 10:40 PM
dude cant block a ball in the dirt, he hs like 4 pass balls this inning

He's like 12. :p

Although, if I was playing in that game, I woulda went deep. :D I'm eligible too. Just come from a really small town. :D

Towelie
08-09-2008, 10:44 PM
8 innings, 4 hits, 1 run, 3 walks.......I only saw the first 3 or 4 innings...but that seems a lot better than "mediocre"

the first 3 or 4 innings were his problem innings. His control was all over the place in those innings. His walks were not 3-2 walks it wasn't even close. He had some lucky DP's to get out of 2 on no out situations.

gcoll
08-09-2008, 10:48 PM
the first 3 or 4 innings were his problem innings. His control was all over the place in those innings. His walks were not 3-2 walks it wasn't even close. He had some lucky DP's to get out of 2 on no out situations.

Ehh.....you make your own luck.

Towelie
08-09-2008, 10:53 PM
Really? Whats the recipe? Cause I would love to make my own luck.

papipapsmanny
08-09-2008, 11:00 PM
Dice K piched mediocre at best. He's a very lucky guy.Has been this whole year.

again not mediocre u said this after 7 starts and said he was getting lucky

but sry after like 21 or so starts this far into the season it is not luck

your saying he walks people

so whats your point we have known that for a while now

gcoll
08-09-2008, 11:02 PM
Really? Whats the recipe? Cause I would love to make my own luck.

It's just a saying.

Dice-K is 13-2 with a 2.90 ERA, and the league is hitting .206 off of him. Even with all the walks, his WHIP is still respectable at about 1.3...right where Lester's is.

You can't luck yourself into those types of numbers.

-Lavigne43-
08-09-2008, 11:52 PM
8 innings by Dice-K? Did I read that right?

Cronin
08-09-2008, 11:55 PM
:dance:

I'd love 3/4 :)

JimmyMal450
08-09-2008, 11:57 PM
It's just a saying.

Dice-K is 13-2 with a 2.90 ERA, and the league is hitting .206 off of him. Even with all the walks, his WHIP is still respectable at about 1.3...right where Lester's is.

You can't luck yourself into those types of numbers.

The numbers don't lie, as hard as it is to believe. It seems like everytime Dice-K goes out there, he struggles at multiple points in the game. Even in today's performance he struggled during a couple of innings. But he pulls a Hudini and gets out of it, and I give him credit for that. Those numbers show that he is doing a great job this year.

Tragedy
08-10-2008, 12:10 AM
8 innings by Dice-K? Did I read that right?
Hey, he's being going deeper into games more recently. I'm loving that. Give that Bullpen a well needed rest every 5 days.

Solid win tonight. I only caught some of the game, but great to see us win and the Yankees losing.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 12:16 AM
Some good news, Tampa Bay is losing 5-1 in the 6th in Seattle.

Tragedy
08-10-2008, 12:18 AM
:clap:

Thank god. They need to lose a few.

Superiority
08-10-2008, 12:21 AM
annnd... now they are winning 7-5 of course

Tragedy
08-10-2008, 12:22 AM
Jesus christ.

I'm ****ing sick of the Rays.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 12:23 AM
annnd... now they are winning 7-5 of course

Are you ****ing me?!? It was 5-1 in the top of the sixth and the ****ing Mariners give up 6 runs :mad: ****

Tragedy
08-10-2008, 12:25 AM
Well, this is the Mariners we're talking about.

Kind of have to expect it.

They still have that tough September, so I'm banking on the Rays crumbling.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 12:28 AM
Well, this is the Mariners we're talking about.

Kind of have to expect it.

They still have that tough September, so I'm banking on the Rays crumbling.

Yeah I guess so. But it still pisses me off that the Rays keep winning these games that they should have lost. And it's aslo annoying how during this stretch that the Red Sox have been doing good, the Rays have been doing even better.

TDbank24
08-10-2008, 01:12 AM
Ugh, nice win by the Sox but seriously **** the Rays already. Lose some games. You're not that good

gcoll
08-10-2008, 01:17 AM
Rays are tied 7-7 right now.

Towelie
08-10-2008, 01:31 AM
un-****ing-real. We can't catch a break with the Rays.

DaaBoTownSox
08-10-2008, 05:54 AM
Look at it this way...

Atleast the Yankees are fading further, and further back :)

Tragedy
08-10-2008, 09:35 AM
Look at it this way...

Atleast the Yankees are fading further, and further back :)
:) Yeah, Yankees are struggling.

Still kind of funny how Yankee fans called our end on the 31st when Manny left the team, yet it's been them that continues to fade. Love it.

Brooke
08-10-2008, 09:43 AM
Yankees losing is always a good thing :)

I am still damn sick of the Rays though

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 02:48 PM
Come on Buchholz, find your pitch zone, get out of this inning giving up only 1 run.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:08 PM
**** :mad:

Come on Clay two homeruns given up in 2 innings. Your 3 run lead is gone now. Come on. :bang:

TDbank24
08-10-2008, 03:09 PM
Buchholz is driving me crazy. I'm slowly forgetting about his no-hitter

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:10 PM
The wheels are falling off right now...

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-10-2008, 03:10 PM
Dude I am not sold on Buchholz at all. How does Masterson not have a higher ceiling as a SP than Clay? Clay misses around a pitch an inning and they always take him yard. We haven't had a #5 starter get a winning decision since June 18th. It kinda sucks how you expect a loss every 5th day with this kid.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:11 PM
Wow I don't think I can watch anymore. I'm sorry Clay but I've lost faith in you.

Brooke
08-10-2008, 03:11 PM
UGH Clay frustrates me

TDbank24
08-10-2008, 03:11 PM
Yup, peace Clay. I think you'll do well in the minors for awhile. This is ridiculous

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:12 PM
Looks like Masterson will be back as our 5th starter...well I hope.

Brooke
08-10-2008, 03:13 PM
something needs to be done, especially since Wake will miss two starts

ewhits24
08-10-2008, 03:13 PM
he needs to get in the minors and learn how to control his pitches. Anyone that is STILL trying to defend him just please dont because you cant

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:16 PM
Haha I'd rather have Curt Schilling over this.

bosox1899
08-10-2008, 03:16 PM
well as many have said i think its time that masterson gets his chance back in the starting rotation, buchholz already had his and he hasn't shown squat.

These batters are just unloading on buchholz, all he has is a curveball and a mediocre fastball which won't cut it in the majors

TDbank24
08-10-2008, 03:18 PM
Haha I'd rather have Curt Schilling over this.

I'd rather have Gagne over this

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:19 PM
I'd rather have Gagne over this

As sad as it may be, you are correct.

ewhits24
08-10-2008, 03:19 PM
the red sox seem like they are so stubborn, masterson should have taken his place 3 or 4 starts ago. And like someone else said its tough when you expect to lose every 5th day, and we cant afford to give games away it isnt like we've locked up a playoff spot

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:21 PM
Where's Julien Tavares when you need him?

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-10-2008, 03:27 PM
It doesn't matter put Aardsma or Lopez in for 2 innings I honestly don't want Clay pitching the bottom half of this inning.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:29 PM
Tough hop, that should be a hit.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:31 PM
Finally Terry, should have taken him out last inning.

TDbank24
08-10-2008, 03:42 PM
Nice work from Aardsma, Let's go offense

BTownTeamsRKing
08-10-2008, 03:43 PM
we gotta find a replacement for this yr for that 5th slot.

Buch needs work. he doesnt look in command out there at all.

i like masterson in the bullpen so who are the options in the minors?

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-10-2008, 03:43 PM
God I could manage this team right now Clay lets 2 guys on then they go get Aardsma from the pen and he gets us out of the inning. Get Clay to the minors and let's stop losing every 5 days.

BTownTeamsRKing
08-10-2008, 03:45 PM
ok 2 on, no outs, lets GO RED SOX!

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:48 PM
we gotta find a replacement for this yr for that 5th slot.

Buch needs work. he doesnt look in command out there at all.

i like masterson in the bullpen so who are the options in the minors?

Charlie Zink
Michael Bowden
Bartolo Colon

BTownTeamsRKing
08-10-2008, 03:49 PM
damn it double play

ill take Bowden out of them

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:49 PM
Come on salvage a run.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:50 PM
There you go Ortiz swing at the first pitch.

bosox1899
08-10-2008, 03:50 PM
figures we have men on 1st and 2nd no outs and they hit into a double play, am i surprised? No..they do it everytime they have a rally going thats why this team is going nowhere this season

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 03:54 PM
figures we have men on 1st and 2nd no outs and they hit into a double play, am i surprised? No..they do it everytime they have a rally going thats why this team is going nowhere this season

You are somewhat correct, but we had a 3-0 lead for Suchholz and he blew it.

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-10-2008, 03:55 PM
I disagree I was surprised because Pedroia has been clutch all year this game can still be won we just need to hit we have drew lowell and bay coming up.

bosox1899
08-10-2008, 03:59 PM
I disagree I was surprised because Pedroia has been clutch all year this game can still be won we just need to hit we have drew lowell and bay coming up.

yea i mean pedroia is one of the only guys I trust up there to get the run with RISP, but i just see it from the whole team consistently with RISP they don't come through. More specifically varitek, crisp and lugo are the main victims of this pattern, they usually do this in this order; pop up, strike out, strike out. when no ones on base, solo hr, double, double. **** like that proves that they choke when they are called upon

bosox1899
08-10-2008, 04:02 PM
man those types of plays are so annoying, lowell makes the nice bare hand but throws it in the dirt

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 04:04 PM
You are somewhat correct, but we had a 3-0 lead for Suchholz and he blew it.

alright can we stop hating on our 23 year old 5th starter, he might not be doing great but i dont exactly expect him to be our ace, give the kid a break

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 04:06 PM
wow masterson is making batters look uggly

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 04:13 PM
There you go Bay. Nice hit Casey, comeone more runs.

TDbank24
08-10-2008, 04:16 PM
Please, do something other than ground into a double play Tek

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 04:17 PM
alright can we stop hating on our 23 year old 5th starter, he might not be doing great but i dont exactly expect him to be our ace, give the kid a break

I know he's still young, but he have lost 5 games in a row and with another bad outing he doesn't belong in the majors right now. Let him find it in AAA, right now he's just losing his confidence and blowing games.

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 04:20 PM
Please, do something other than ground into a double play Tek

he striked out but got us a run

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 04:20 PM
There you go Tek you didn't ground into a DP.

TDbank24
08-10-2008, 04:21 PM
See Tek, as long as you don't ground into double plays you help the team. Free run

bosox1899
08-10-2008, 04:24 PM
well they almost proved my point once again, lowell struck out, bay hits the single, then with men on 1st and 3rd 1 OUT, varitek does what he always does strikes out, I was really hoping lowrie could hit a clutch shot but he too struck out.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 04:26 PM
Bartolo looking good at Pawtucket...we'll need you soon.

Masterson is looking great so far too bad we need him in the BP or he'll be a great 5th starter.

bosox1899
08-10-2008, 04:28 PM
Bartolo looking good at Pawtucket...we'll need you soon.

Masterson is looking great so far too bad we need him in the BP or he'll be a great 5th starter.

I think we could use him more in the starting rotation rather than the bp, we have other options for the BP in the minors

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-10-2008, 04:29 PM
Does anyone think it makes since to bring up Zink for Wakefield and still have a knuckler in our rotation for 2 starts? I think it would work out alright.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 04:36 PM
^^^ I think that that is what the Red Sox were planing on doing anyways.

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-10-2008, 04:38 PM
On a side note, the Rays never lose ha ha. Up 3-0 on the mariners in the top of the 2nd.

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 04:39 PM
On a side note, the Rays never lose ha ha. Up 3-0 on the mariners in the top of the 2nd.

they r making up for every other season

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 04:40 PM
yanks down 3-2 and twins r up 4-2

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 04:42 PM
i predict a bosox1899 rant and rightfully so

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-10-2008, 04:43 PM
Ouch Lowell

Cronin
08-10-2008, 04:44 PM
Dammit man, we need to win this game. Someone needs to step up..

bosox1899
08-10-2008, 04:45 PM
i predict a bosox1899 rant and rightfully so

well you predicted right and how can I not when again we have the bases loaded with 1 out only to hit into a double play! What do you want me to say? Good Job Lowell way to make contact? Its one thing if it happens once in a while but evry ****ing time we have RISP it happens, so excuse me if Im the only one who sees this offense choke during situations like that but Im not gonna sit here and stay calm while these guys are getting paid millions to do that ****

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 04:45 PM
Jeeze Lowell at least get it in the air.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 04:46 PM
Does anyone else agree that Lowell should be batting 6th behind Bay?

TDbank24
08-10-2008, 04:47 PM
Has there ever been a worse game after hitting a 3 run home run in the first inning than Lowell has had? 2 errors and a double play ball to basically end the game. (I'm not confident we are coming back the way it's looking)

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-10-2008, 04:48 PM
I can't stand any more one run road losses let's bring a few home in the 8th and 9th so we don't drop another game in the east. Masterson has looked awesome.

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 04:48 PM
Does anyone else agree that Lowell should be batting 6th behind Bay?

our line up is screwed up today, if they wanna give youk a day off and not have bay bat 4th the line up should be

pedroia
bay
ortiz
lowell
drew
casey
v-tek
cora
ellsburry

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 04:50 PM
good job lowrie, my first reaction without thinking was "uh oh another error for lugo" then i realized lugo was hurt

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 04:51 PM
^^But when the lineup is at full strength don't you think Bay should be ahead of Lowell.

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 04:53 PM
^^But when the lineup is at full strength don't you think Bay should be ahead of Lowell.

i think bay should be clean up but i think they r scared that people will compare him to manny and it would put pressure on him my dream line up while healthy would be

ellsburry
pedroia
ortiz
bay
youklis
lowell
drew
v-tek
lowrie

if of course ellsburry can become affective in the lead off spot again

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 04:53 PM
Masterson has been great, I really wish he would be our 5th starter.

TDbank24
08-10-2008, 04:56 PM
As if we needed any more proof that Masterson should be our 5th starter. He's been shutting them down

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-10-2008, 04:58 PM
Damn, I wish I could watch the game, tell me what happens. :ohno:

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 05:00 PM
As if we needed any more proof that Masterson should be our 5th starter. He's been shutting them down

weres everyone who wanted him to go to the pen now? but i rather see zink or bowden get a chance then screw with masterson again

gcoll
08-10-2008, 05:02 PM
weres everyone who wanted him to go to the pen now? but i rather see zink or bowden get a chance then screw with masterson again

In all fairness that was at a time when Buchholz was dominating in AAA. Figured that he'd be a capable 5 starter. We had a need in the bullpen.

There's no going back now, and hell....Papelbon would make a better starter than Masterson.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-10-2008, 05:07 PM
Wow, Crawford is out with a finger injury for the Rays. And Longoria has a sore wrist apparently.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 05:07 PM
^^^and yet they are still winning 3-1

sager729
08-10-2008, 05:07 PM
Masterson look real good today against the White Sox.

sager729
08-10-2008, 05:08 PM
Don't worry I am sure that Jenks will at least make it interesting in the 9th.

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 05:09 PM
:sigh: this offense needs help... bad

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 05:13 PM
why the hell did he swing at that

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 05:14 PM
Well I think Lowell is the only player I have ever seen get a 3-run HR in the first inning and then have a terrible game and essentialy end the game with a bases loaded double play.

gcoll
08-10-2008, 05:15 PM
:sigh: this offense needs help... bad

We got 5 runs, and got guys on all day.

This game wasn't lost by the offense.

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 05:18 PM
we left 15 guys on base, our pitching did well enough for us to get a W, our offense just couldnt come through in the clutch. and dye, quentin, and thome hit homers against us its not like they r bunch of chumps

kazzy4080
08-10-2008, 05:19 PM
our last 3 losses have come by a combined 4 runs

PapelbonLester
08-10-2008, 05:19 PM
Well I think Lowell is the only player I have ever seen get a 3-run HR in the first inning and then have a terrible game and essentialy end the game with a bases loaded double play.

DOOOOOOOO NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT knock on lowell. EVER. how are u going to say that anyways. you must not watch baseball then. players get homers in the first inning and go hitless the rest of the game probably once a week so open ur eyes and dont knock on our 3rd baseman. thank you

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 05:22 PM
DOOOOOOOO NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT knock on lowell. EVER. how are u going to say that anyways. you must not watch baseball then. players get homers in the first inning and go hitless the rest of the game probably once a week so open ur eyes and dont knock on our 3rd baseman. thank you

I'm not knocking on him, but after hitting that HR he had two errors and grounded into a key double play. You have to admit it was not one of his better games.

gcoll
08-10-2008, 05:22 PM
our pitching did well enough for us to get a W
No it didn't. Allowing 6 runs is not good.


our offense just couldnt come through in the clutch
Again. We had opportunity to score more.......but 5 runs will win you a lot of games.

gcoll
08-10-2008, 05:23 PM
DOOOOOOOO NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT knock on lowell. EVER. how are u going to say that anyways. you must not watch baseball then. players get homers in the first inning and go hitless the rest of the game probably once a week so open ur eyes and dont knock on our 3rd baseman. thank you

Lowell has been sucking lately.

Might be due to his injury....but I'd swap he and Bay in the lineup. Lowell is coming up in big moments a lot lately, and he's almost an automatic DP most of the time.

Actually. 2 of the guys killing us offensively lately, have been Ortiz and Lowell....and of course Tek, but he's a given at this point.

JimmyMal450
08-10-2008, 05:26 PM
Lowell has been sucking lately.

Might be due to his injury....but I'd swap he and Bay in the lineup. Lowell is coming up in big moments a lot lately, and he's almost an automatic DP most of the time.

That's what I'm trying to say, lately he has come up in very important 2 out AB and hasn't pulled through. His injury is part of the blame but in that case why not bat Bay ahead. Bay always seems to just miss getting to bat with 2 men on.

bosox1899
08-10-2008, 06:14 PM
we left 15 guys on base, our pitching did well enough for us to get a W, our offense just couldnt come through in the clutch. and dye, quentin, and thome hit homers against us its not like they r bunch of chumps

we're finally seeing that? I keep getting lectured at for "ranting" and "*****ing" yet what I've been saying is true and is the reason we are losing so much.

Panther Pisla
08-10-2008, 08:17 PM
Hey, Bean-Towners. I am a White Sox fan - new to this board - and I can share the following observations:

1. The Texas Rangers toughened the White Sox up against good hitting. That's why, watching these games, as a fan, Boston's lineup really does not intimidate me, and it does not look like the White Sox are intimidated after the six marathon football-score games against the real top-hitting team in the majors, Texas. If this series was held a month ago, the Red Sox would likely win 3/4;

2. Trading Manny Ramirez was the stupidest move I have ever seen - talk about letting the inmates run the asylum!;

3. You guys had better watch out for Danks tomorrow - he is our best pitcher and is HOTTT right now.

Tragedy
08-10-2008, 08:33 PM
2. Trading Manny Ramirez was the stupidest move I have ever seen - talk about letting the inmates run the asylum!;
:pity:

You must not have realized that the Red Sox were preforming poorly with Ramirez the final week or two. Also, you must not have realized that the team had a meeting where they all agreed that Ramirez HAD to go. What are you to do as a FO if players say that one must go?

As expected, Sox lost. I knew it'd happen - Clay is complete garbage this year.

Panther Pisla
08-10-2008, 08:53 PM
:pity:

You must not have realized that the Red Sox were preforming poorly with Ramirez the final week or two. Also, you must not have realized that the team had a meeting where they all agreed that Ramirez HAD to go. What are you to do as a FO if players say that one must go?

As expected, Sox lost. I knew it'd happen - Clay is complete garbage this year.

We had a similar selfish, yet HOF-Caliber asshat in Frank Thomas for years - we used him to the fulelst in 2005, and, in the OFFSEASON we pink-slipped him.

IMO your management should have pressured his buddy Ortiz to mediate and reign him in a long time ago.

gcoll
08-10-2008, 09:58 PM
We had a similar selfish, yet HOF-Caliber asshat in Frank Thomas for years - we used him to the fulelst in 2005, and, in the OFFSEASON we pink-slipped him.

IMO your management should have pressured his buddy Ortiz to mediate and reign him in a long time ago.

Manny Ramirez wanted out of his contract. So he was pulling bull ****. If the Red Sox office didn't bow down to Manny's demands....the implication was that he'd tank it down the stretch.

He wanted to, and was going to sit out the entire Yankee series.....until the team forced him to get an MRI, and forced him to play when it came up clean. How many runners did we have on base in those two games? Got like.....14 hits yesterday. Come on.

And you may brag about our offense not being intimidating....but we put up 5 runs today, and 6 yesterday. Not exactly all that much to be bragging about.

Also. As a White Sox fan, how can you put up with Hawk and DJ? They are terrible. I feel for you.

Also. As a side note, if we wait until the offseason to "pink slip" Manny....we get absolutely nothing in return. A couple draft picks.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-11-2008, 12:20 AM
Hey, Bean-Towners. I am a White Sox fan - new to this board - and I can share the following observations:

1. The Texas Rangers toughened the White Sox up against good hitting. That's why, watching these games, as a fan, Boston's lineup really does not intimidate me, and it does not look like the White Sox are intimidated after the six marathon football-score games against the real top-hitting team in the majors, Texas. If this series was held a month ago, the Red Sox would likely win 3/4;

2. Trading Manny Ramirez was the stupidest move I have ever seen - talk about letting the inmates run the asylum!;

3. You guys had better watch out for Danks tomorrow - he is our best pitcher and is HOTTT right now.

Beckett isn't exactly a slouch either...

Tragedy
08-11-2008, 12:27 AM
Also. As a White Sox fan, how can you put up with Hawk and DJ? They are terrible. I feel for you.
I think they're the worst commentators in all of baseball right now. They're flat out AWFUL. It's kind of pathetic that when an opposing team hits a HR, they just go completely silent for a while. I wish those two would fall off the earth.

JDIsMyGod23
08-11-2008, 01:38 AM
OMGZ White Sox beat the Red SUX LOL OMGZ SUCK IT TRAG SUCK IT!

(This is solely meant for Tragedy because he mods the White Sox forum and Mod baited us and fails to show his face again)

Tragedy
08-11-2008, 02:15 AM
:laugh:

Oh, I hate you.

kingbrentg
08-11-2008, 02:30 AM
Lolz Ya Trag Suckz Lyk Da Red Sux.

Panther Pisla
08-11-2008, 09:10 AM
Manny Ramirez wanted out of his contract. So he was pulling bull ****. If the Red Sox office didn't bow down to Manny's demands....the implication was that he'd tank it down the stretch.

He wanted to, and was going to sit out the entire Yankee series.....until the team forced him to get an MRI, and forced him to play when it came up clean. How many runners did we have on base in those two games? Got like.....14 hits yesterday. Come on.

And you may brag about our offense not being intimidating....but we put up 5 runs today, and 6 yesterday. Not exactly all that much to be bragging about.

Also. As a White Sox fan, how can you put up with Hawk and DJ? They are terrible. I feel for you.

Also. As a side note, if we wait until the offseason to "pink slip" Manny....we get absolutely nothing in return. A couple draft picks.

6 and 5 are like 2 or 3 compared to what our bullpen has been giving up. KC threw up like 10 and 12 the next day last weekend against us, and we held you guys to 3, 6, and 5. However, it looks like we shipped out all the main culprits - Wasserman, Logan, Richard. And Horacio Ramirez just arrived from KC (and he looks pretty nice).

Also, 4 of your 5 runs yesterday were "Rosary Runs" - i.e. one was on a wild pitch strikeout of Varitek, and 3 were on Lowell's freakish, first inning bloop fly ball that only made it out of the park because (a) the wind floated it, and (b) Quentin misjudged it. It looked to be an easy HR-save catch if it were timed right. Not exactly thumping lumber or even grinder-ball.

Our pitchers know by now, and are comforted by, the fact that our hitters can score 5-7 runs in any one inning - everyone in the lineup is a candidate to go yard at any time.

Like I said, The Red Sox offense does not intimidate the White Sox, Pedroia is the only one out of your entire lineup that I would pick from your team (however, I would not choose him over Alexei Ramirez in a head-to-head second baseman comparison because Ramirez is just as clutch a batter and a more spectacular fielder with a stronger arm).

On the Manny Note: We see these contract holdouts all the time with the Chicago Bears, and management seems to always be able to find some common ground (see Lance Briggs, Brian Urlacher, Devin Hester) without taking it in the behind.

Could be a good character study for the "Spend Sox" to follow.

And guess what? As a White Sox fan, we love Hawk and DJ - two more fans in the booth - and we HOPE that you and everyone else hates them because they are not your call and your opinion as to them is not relevant, has not been solicited, and is not welcome. They are calling games for the pleasure and reaction of WHITE SOX fans, and NOT to be the lead-in call on Boston's favorite feeder network ESPN (i.e. the Creator of the whole "Red Sox Nation" baloney).

And Beckett is good, but he is not as hot right now as Danks. Plus, the White Sox get in line for seconds when Right-Handed power pitching is on the dinner table.

Want to hazard a gentleman's wager on the outcome of tonight's game?

Superiority
08-11-2008, 01:47 PM
Hawk and DJ:

"sfhkfhfdabow.... YES!!!"

DaSox_05
08-11-2008, 01:57 PM
Manny Ramirez wanted out of his contract. So he was pulling bull ****. If the Red Sox office didn't bow down to Manny's demands....the implication was that he'd tank it down the stretch.

He wanted to, and was going to sit out the entire Yankee series.....until the team forced him to get an MRI, and forced him to play when it came up clean. How many runners did we have on base in those two games? Got like.....14 hits yesterday. Come on.

And you may brag about our offense not being intimidating....but we put up 5 runs today, and 6 yesterday. Not exactly all that much to be bragging about.

Also. As a White Sox fan, how can you put up with Hawk and DJ? They are terrible. I feel for you.

Also. As a side note, if we wait until the offseason to "pink slip" Manny....we get absolutely nothing in return. A couple draft picks.


I think they're the worst commentators in all of baseball right now. They're flat out AWFUL. It's kind of pathetic that when an opposing team hits a HR, they just go completely silent for a while. I wish those two would fall off the earth.

Ok Hawk and DJ are White Sox announcers they are homers ofcourse they are going to be silent for the opposing team when they hit a homerun. As a White Sox and I speak for most of them that Love Hawk. DJ I dont care for. Hawk is one of the best I believe cuz he gets into the game so much with his one liners its hilarious. When Hawk has someone else next to him in the booth like Steve Stone or Dan Plesac, Hawk improves his game. DJ to me is real boring.

GrinderBall41
08-11-2008, 02:27 PM
Agreed. Huge Hawk fan, not a DJ fan.

And Hawk is not on there to make opposing teams' fans happy. He's on there to help us enjoy the game. He's the biggest sox fan there is and I love his emotional reactions.

Listening to the Yanks' announcers, for example, do the "See ya!" thing even for the other teams' HR's, for example, is just weird. Hawk reacts the way we at home react.

Yeah he gets a little overboard sometimes, but when he's with Stone he tones it down. Hawk and Stone will be a great team next year.

Tragedy
08-11-2008, 02:49 PM
Listening to the Yanks' announcers, for example, do the "See ya!" thing even for the other teams' HR's, for example, is just weird. Hawk reacts the way we at home react.
The "see ya" is awful, but the White Sox get the distinct claim of having the awful "put it on the board" crap.

I think everyone outside of Chicago thinks that both DJ and Hawk are flat out AWFUL.

GrinderBall41
08-11-2008, 02:57 PM
Then they should only announce games for the White Sox... oh wait they do.

Panther Pisla
08-11-2008, 04:07 PM
I am sure Hawk is losing a lot of sleep worrying about what the messageboard people from the northeast extremity of this country think about his broadcasting prowess.

Hawk is the **** - picture it like this: He is our 'Harry Caray' without the dementia, drunkenness, and obscenely-large eyeglasses.

Personally, I like the polarized responses to our team's action vs. the opponents'.

Hundreds of times I have gotten up during a game for a beer or to hit the head, and, not being able to see the screen, only due to Hawk's distinct tone, inflection, and choice of words did I know what happened on the screen - to a 'T'.

JDIsMyGod23
08-11-2008, 07:29 PM
I'm pretty sure Hawk announced for the Red Sox in the late 1970s. Because I heard him call the umm, no offense, Bucky Dent call on the Red Sox HBO special and was like WTF? that's Hawk. Just a little FYI.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-11-2008, 08:22 PM
Good start by Beckett.

Sox Appeal
08-11-2008, 08:25 PM
The "see ya" is awful, but the White Sox get the distinct claim of having the awful "put it on the board" crap.

I think everyone outside of Chicago thinks that both DJ and Hawk are flat out AWFUL.

I think there both awful, and I live in Chicago. :shrug:

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-11-2008, 08:57 PM
****

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-11-2008, 09:02 PM
Bean 5 towne could you make a sig with pedroia and ellsbury in it? Maybe with them facing each other batting because they hit from opposite sides of the plate? If you don't want too I understand.

bosox1899
08-11-2008, 09:07 PM
welll im liking what im seeing from our offense tonight :rolleyes: wait what is that you say? we don't have an offense, ah no wonder we are being no hit again :D

BouGa
08-11-2008, 09:27 PM
Our offense is embarrassing.

bosox1899
08-11-2008, 09:32 PM
we must be getting desperate putting crisp at top, he sucks horribly, everytime he bats i get even more annoyed, he struck out now just grounded out, hes just another automatic out in this lineup

Tragedy
08-11-2008, 09:33 PM
Man, offense for this team is too hot/cold. Really, really frustrating to see this game, especially when Lackey almost did this against us.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-11-2008, 09:39 PM
Bleh, why is it they can flyout to end an inning.. But when there's less than 2 outs, and a runner on third, they strike/pop out... :bang:

Brooke
08-11-2008, 09:41 PM
this is freaking embarrassing

Brooke
08-11-2008, 09:44 PM
Thank You Youk!

BouGa
08-11-2008, 09:49 PM
*** ya

bosox1899
08-11-2008, 09:49 PM
there you go Bay, strike out yet again...this team does it everytime with RISP, how many times do I have to say it? They must have the lowest BA with RISP.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-11-2008, 09:49 PM
**** Yeah Drew!!!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-11-2008, 09:50 PM
there you go Bay, strike out yet again...this team does it everytime with RISP, how many times do I have to say it? They must have the lowest BA with RISP.

Hush now. :D

Brooke
08-11-2008, 09:50 PM
Yeah JD!

bosox1899
08-11-2008, 09:50 PM
thank god for Drew! Thats the first time in a while I've seen them come through in the clutch, its good to see

JimmyMal450
08-11-2008, 09:51 PM
Way to pull through JD!!!

-Lavigne43-
08-11-2008, 09:56 PM
Actually we have a top ten average with runners on. You guys ***** more then anyone I know

bosox1899
08-11-2008, 10:01 PM
Actually we have a top ten average with runners on. You guys ***** more then anyone I know

Do you have a link for that? I definitely do no see that happening out there for the most part. And again, criticizing is not *****ing jesus christ, im so sick and tired of hearing the "know it alls" say people are *****ing when you can obviously see the flaw in this team...how many times have we left a man on 3rd with less than 2 outs? whatever stat you found is probably skewed by something else

actually i looked and we are 16th so no we aren't in the top 10:
Yahoo (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byteam?cat=Situational&cut_type=39&conference=MLB&year=season_2008&sort=722)

But I will admit some of those stats are better than I actually thought, but theres a lot more to it then just stats, those stats could be skewed in those games where our offense is clicking and we score 8-10 runs. basically, this offense is way too inconsistent

-Lavigne43-
08-11-2008, 10:15 PM
No we are 9th http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/aggregate?sort=avg&split=38&group=9&season=2008&seasonType=2&statType=batting&type=reg

We have also scored the 4th most runs in baseball, hardly anything to be mad about.

Sorry I am sick and tired in see fair weather fans ***** every time we are not perfect.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-11-2008, 10:17 PM
Damn, helluva play by Quentin.

bosox1899
08-11-2008, 10:22 PM
No we are 9th http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/aggregate?sort=avg&split=38&group=9&season=2008&seasonType=2&statType=batting&type=reg

We have also scored the 4th most runs in baseball, hardly anything to be mad about.

Sorry I am sick and tired in see fair weather fans ***** every time we are not perfect.

if you look under scoring position we are 15th.

as for the last sentence, haha yea im a fair weather fan because I like to criticize them when they clearly have a weakness at, unlike some of you I actually care when this team does bad and dont always praise them good or bad.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-11-2008, 10:28 PM
Well, I don't really criticize the Sox that much... I can see that their not the potent offensive force they once were, but they've been transitioning from slugging team to great pitching, defense, and good offense for awhile now..

BouGa
08-11-2008, 10:41 PM
Lowrie is a bases loaded GOD, seriously when does this kid not produce when they are all on.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-11-2008, 10:41 PM
Please don't come back Lugo. We all know you would have grounded out into a double play right there.

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-11-2008, 10:45 PM
Yeah I really like Lowrie in the lineup and I don't see Lugo getting his spot back. Now Tek is the only real weak point in the lineup unless Coco is playing.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-11-2008, 10:59 PM
Beautifully pitched game by Beckett.

JimmyMal450
08-11-2008, 11:00 PM
Great game, for a moment I thought it was over, but clutch hits by Drew and Lowrie, and nice job Beckett :clap:

JacobyIsMyHomie
08-11-2008, 11:05 PM
I really don't think the FO can justify playing Lugo when he returns as Lowrie gives us the best chance to win.

gcoll
08-11-2008, 11:08 PM
The Sox pulled it out, and like I said.....the 4 game series split. Like all 4 game series' do.

I'm glad our offense came around in that one, because a lot of you people in here would have been sobbing if we lost 1-0.

In our last 10 games, we've scored under 5 runs, 3 times. Offense is just fine.

Ortiz hasn't even come around yet. This lineup will score runs.

And...on that road trip, we went 7-3. I call that a big time success.

papipapsmanny
08-11-2008, 11:08 PM
Beautifully pitched game by Beckett.

last time im saying this but

SIG!!!!! im never changing it again

JimmyMal450
08-11-2008, 11:20 PM
The Sox pulled it out, and like I said.....the 4 game series split. Like all 4 game series' do.

I'm glad our offense came around in that one, because a lot of you people in here would have been sobbing if we lost 1-0.

In our last 10 games, we've scored under 5 runs, 3 times. Offense is just fine.

Ortiz hasn't even come around yet. This lineup will score runs.

And...on that road trip, we went 7-3. I call that a big time success.

We were only 4-3 on this roadtrip. Were 7-3 with Jason Bay.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
08-11-2008, 11:35 PM
last time im saying this but

SIG!!!!! im never changing it again

:D