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bears118
08-08-2008, 01:24 AM
Previously on this forum I've seen "get rid of Wolfe as he's (too small/slow/light/etc) after tonight's game and his abilities plus his few good plays last year has anyones mind changed.

I know it was againist the 2/3rd stringers but for him to average 9 yards a carry and to make the 25 yard screen work as well it did with the TD not to mention the 45 yard run from our own 6 yard line when some of the starters were still on the cheifs defense

I really think he can be a good scat back for us not a starter by any means but worth a roster spot as the 3rd down or two rb backfield addition to forte

Just whated to see what people thought

jayjay124
08-08-2008, 01:42 AM
I think it all depends on Kevin Jones. If he is able to give you some carries to take the load off of Forte, then you may not need Wolfe. I honestly think that Forte is the player the Bears hoped Wolfe would be so he may not have a place on this roster.

Kyben36
08-08-2008, 01:45 AM
I dont like what I saw at all. The line seem to hold up well for the Pass but every time we ran the ball with Forte there were No big holes for him to find. I Dont care how good you are but if you have a terible Running O line then you cant break anything.

WorldChamps1908
08-08-2008, 01:46 AM
is this because he scored a TD tonight!? Wolfe is not an NFL back..

The General
08-08-2008, 02:57 AM
is this because he scored a TD tonight!? Wolfe is not an NFL back..

I'd rather have Wolf and cut Haas. We still dont know what K jones is capable of. Plus wolf is shifty enough to actually contribute via 3rd and 25 draw play every once in a while.

cambovenzi
08-08-2008, 03:07 AM
wolfe did look really good against the backups.
great speed.
not really sure what id do at this point.

Tankjeep
08-08-2008, 06:37 AM
too early to tell for me. i like haas' hands though....tom waddlesque.

Cub_StuckinSTL
08-08-2008, 08:35 AM
is this because he scored a TD tonight!? Wolfe is not an NFL back..

I think what people dont realize is that Wolfe's role with this team is very limited due to hester. Wolfe would be a decent return man and slot guy for us but those spots are filled by someoen better.

Bulldog76
08-08-2008, 09:35 AM
I have said from the beginning keep Wolfe and cut Peterson...Peterson is replaced by Kevin Jones in the backfield and by a number of other capable players on special teams.

Tankjeep
08-08-2008, 11:30 AM
I have said from the beginning keep Wolfe and cut Peterson...Peterson is replaced by Kevin Jones in the backfield and by a number of other capable players on special teams.

without knowing if kj is going to be/stay healthy...then that's a tough decision to make. peterson has been good for the bears coming off the bench and can take a hit.....wolfe though, not so sure about that.

Soop
08-08-2008, 11:32 AM
I think what people dont realize is that Wolfe's role with this team is very limited due to hester. Wolfe would be a decent return man and slot guy for us but those spots are filled by someoen better.

If Hester wasn't here, Wolfe still wouldn't be returning kicks. D.Manning, Vasher, or Peterson would go before him.

Fuselage
08-08-2008, 11:53 AM
I like Wolfe and I hope they keep him. With Hester pulling two positions (WR & Returner) they can afford an extra roster spot. And I don't know why they are trying so hard to make Earl Bennett a kick returner. He stinks at it. Wolfe would be a much better kick returner to groom to be back there.

Bearscubs4life
08-08-2008, 11:59 AM
I think it all depends on Kevin Jones. If he is able to give you some carries to take the load off of Forte, then you may not need Wolfe. I honestly think that Forte is the player the Bears hoped Wolfe would be so he may not have a place on this roster.

I don't follow. Do you think that they expected Wolfe to be a 3 down back. I would even comapre the two backs. They are as different as night and day. I think the wanted a big play only guy with Wolfe, did they get it, only time will tell. If Jones starts to take shape I would want wolfe to stay before AP...IMO

hockeyplaya97
08-08-2008, 12:03 PM
I don't follow. Do you think that they expected Wolfe to be a 3 down back. I would even comapre the two backs. They are as different as night and day. I think the wanted a big play only guy with Wolfe, did they get it, only time will tell. If Jones starts to take shape I would want wolfe to stay before AP...IMO

All I know is that if they use Wolfe the same way they did last year then he has no chance. Giving him carries up the middle inside your own 20 isn't a prime spot to use a back like Wolfe :no:

Bearscubs4life
08-08-2008, 12:06 PM
All I know is that if they use Wolfe the same way they did last year then he has no chance. Giving him carries up the middle inside your own 20 isn't a prime spot to use a back like Wolfe :no:

I agree. He needs to get in the open or at least try to get to the outside. It does not matter who the player is if he is put in spots that he will have trouble doing well in he will not do well it's simple. Play him to use his strengths, going up the middle is not one of them.

Bulldog76
08-08-2008, 01:31 PM
Wolfe has to be used as a situational back or a 3rd down specialist...Nobody would ever confuse him with an everydown back, but he does have a unique skill set of speed and elusiveness...

What are Peterson's skills ?? Are they any different than a Forte or a healthy Kevin Jones...Are those two faster than AP ?

Either carry 4 rbs or cut AP...its the best use of talent for this roster.

hockeyplaya97
08-08-2008, 01:48 PM
Personally I wouldn't mind seeing if Peterson would be able to play a little bit of fullback. I like McKie but having Peterson would add more speed to our offense if he were take Mckie's place.

Coach100
08-08-2008, 02:06 PM
For what it is worth, I like Pope more than Wolfe. I think he is a more versatile runner than Wolfe. Pope may not do anything great, but he does everything well. And he is bigger than Wolfe and probably able to break more tackles and take more punishment.

I feel the Bears should keep Forte, KJ, Pope and cut Wolfe. AP should be kept in case KJ gets injured again and to play on SP.

Also, I thought Polite played as well as anybody last night. He had some great blocks, cut some passes, and ran the abll well. I would like to see the Bears keep him on the practice squad, if not the active roster.

Bulldog76
08-08-2008, 02:18 PM
AP to fullback was another idea I kicked around...Because I don't think McKie is very good...We could keep Politte and AP to work at FB and ST's...that would be a hammer and pass catcher at the position...AP could also be the solo back in the event that Forte goes down...

Until KJ is healthy we are getting ahead of ourselves

Tankjeep
08-08-2008, 02:21 PM
AP to fullback was another idea I kicked around...Because I don't think McKie is very good...We could keep Politte and AP to work at FB and ST's...that would be a hammer and pass catcher at the position...AP could also be the solo back in the event that Forte goes down...

Until KJ is healthy we are getting ahead of ourselves


that's my point, with kj's health....we need to see how that turns out.

hockeyplaya97
08-08-2008, 02:40 PM
It's good to see that other people see AP's versatility as well. I think that he would be able to make the transition. I do agree that we will have to see what happens with Jones before we can pursue an option like this.

cambovenzi
08-08-2008, 05:25 PM
no way id cut AP.
good blocker, receiver, and rusher.
as well as ST'er.

Bearscubs4life
08-08-2008, 05:55 PM
no way id cut AP.
good blocker, receiver, and rusher.
as well as ST'er.

I agree about the skill set, but does Jones bring those to the table? Not sure on his receiving skills if so Wolfe would be a great change of pace back. Don't disagree just throwing this out there.

northsider
08-08-2008, 06:49 PM
Still more exhibition games can't really make a decision based on one good game but, it is a start and he def. looked good.

BuddyJesus
08-08-2008, 09:01 PM
He looked good, but his TD would have been a 5 yard gain against starters.

The General
08-08-2008, 09:13 PM
Peterson is a stud on special teams, even if you keep jones and Wolfe, you cant cut Peterson.

azbearfan
08-09-2008, 02:35 AM
Personally I wouldn't mind seeing if Peterson would be able to play a little bit of fullback. I like McKie but having Peterson would add more speed to our offense if he were take Mckie's place.


AP to fullback was another idea I kicked around...Because I don't think McKie is very good...We could keep Politte and AP to work at FB and ST's...that would be a hammer and pass catcher at the position...AP could also be the solo back in the event that Forte goes down...

Until KJ is healthy we are getting ahead of ourselves

I think that's the best plan..........don't cut AP to keep Wolfe.

dabears34ft
08-09-2008, 09:52 AM
just specualting but I wonder if Peterson could convert to a LB and b a utility type backup. Make him a emergency back and backup LB. Keep him on special teams. His brother is a pretty stout LB and the way he plays on special teams I think he'd b capable. Notre dame did this with travis thomas and he did pretty well at LB. Just a thought.

cambovenzi
08-09-2008, 10:02 AM
just specualting but I wonder if Peterson could convert to a LB and b a utility type backup. Make him a emergency back and backup LB. Keep him on special teams. His brother is a pretty stout LB and the way he plays on special teams I think he'd b capable. Notre dame did this with travis thomas and he did pretty well at LB. Just a thought.

i think he would be much better used as a backup RB.
there is more to being a good LB than just tackling.
and he has all the skills needed to be a good backup RB.
i dont think he would ever be more than an emergency backup LB.

besides we already have urlacher, briggs, hillenmeyer, jamar williams, last years 3rd round pick michael okwo, as well as nick roach who has moved up in the depth charts, among others.

dabears34ft
08-09-2008, 10:15 AM
One thing is for sure, u can't cut peterson cuz he hasn't played himself out of a job and he does all the fundamental things very well. He runs well, blocks good, is a special teams stud, and catches it good out of the backfield. If he could b a solid emergency linebacker than it helps us open up a roster spot for someone like Wolfe. Like I said though notre dame did this with travis Thomas and he was a very good OLB. Great pass rusher. I just think the type of player Peterson is and the hardworker, he could easily pull that off

cambovenzi
08-09-2008, 10:16 AM
a couple more good games from wolfe, and KJones might be on the chopping block. possibly just leaving him on the PUP list.

beardown1985
08-09-2008, 11:15 AM
a couple more good games from wolfe, and KJones might be on the chopping block. possibly just leaving him on the PUP list.

not a chance... KJ has proven he can succeed as a #1 back in the league and he's getting paid next to nothing. we don't really have any real contractual obligations to him since he's only in a one year deal. There is no way that we cut KJ because of what Wolfe does in the preseason against 2nd and 3rd stringers because if KJ pans out, then he will be much more valuable to us than Wolfe.. even if wolfe does turn out to be the scatback we were looking for. its hard for me to imagine the Bears cutting any one of our 4 RBs at this point

cambovenzi
08-09-2008, 11:21 AM
not a chance... KJ has proven he can succeed as a #1 back in the league and he's getting paid next to nothing. we don't really have any real contractual obligations to him since he's only in a one year deal. There is no way that we cut KJ because of what Wolfe does in the preseason against 2nd and 3rd stringers because if KJ pans out, then he will be much more valuable to us than Wolfe.. even if wolfe does turn out to be the scatback we were looking for. its hard for me to imagine the Bears cutting any one of our 4 RBs at this point

KJ is injured, and if wolfe succeeds enough, i think it is a possibility.
wolfe would have to play very well tho the rest of the preseason.
not too sure that will happen.

the fact that KJ isnt paid alot makes it easier to just drop him if he doesn't work out. no big signing bonus, and no commitment to him.

Soop
08-09-2008, 12:55 PM
a couple more good games from wolfe, and KJones might be on the chopping block. possibly just leaving him on the PUP list.

No way they cut Jones, he'll be our #2 soon. In his defense, he's hasn't had the opportunity to prove what he's capable of. Regardless what Wolfe does Jones wouldn't be cut. Two different type of backs and it wouldn't make much sense for them to cut a potential back that might be sharing carries w/ Forte.

cambovenzi
08-09-2008, 01:09 PM
No way they cut Jones, he'll be our #2 soon. In his defense, he's hasn't had the opportunity to prove what he's capable of. Regardless what Wolfe does Jones wouldn't be cut. Two different type of backs and it wouldn't make much sense for them to cut a potential back that might be sharing carries w/ Forte.

oh i agree KJ will most likely be our #2 back.

i was just saying in the event he doesnt comeback well enough from injury, and if wolfe performs the way he has, it might be a possibility.

AP is also really the same kind of back as KJ.

should be interesting to see what happens.

Soop
08-09-2008, 01:46 PM
oh i agree KJ will most likely be our #2 back.

i was just saying in the event he doesnt comeback well enough from injury, and if wolfe performs the way he has, it might be a possibility.

AP is also really the same kind of back as KJ.

should be interesting to see what happens.

I would rather have them keep all four backs and look somewhere else to make a cut. I think KJ is more explosive and AP is mediocre, but he's reliable enough to fill in from time to time.

The General
08-09-2008, 11:57 PM
Wolfe produced the Bears’ biggest plays with his 42-yard run and a 25-yard TD reception when he caught a short dump off pass from Rex Grossman and dashed around right end for a score.

“We’ve seen that burst before in some of our practices and even when he played at Northern Illinois,” [Lovie] Smith said. “But it’s good. It seems like he’s getting more and more confidence. We have a role for him this year with our running game. We have a role for all of our backs, but it was still good for him to perform that way.”

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4981

Looks like we might just end up 4 deep at RB this year

stlfan544
08-10-2008, 12:40 AM
I think what people dont realize is that Wolfe's role with this team is very limited due to hester. Wolfe would be a decent return man and slot guy for us but those spots are filled by someoen better.

He very well could be a decent return man on kick offs but as far as punt returns I don't think so. Larry Mayer who does the ChalkTalk on the bears website had this to say as far as wolfe returning punts and so on.... this is courtesy of the Bears Website.

"If heaven forbid Devin Hester would get hurt, would Garrett Wolfe return punts for the Bears?"

Tom R.
Scottsdale, Arizona

"No, Garrett Wolfe struggles catching punts. The Bears have been giving rookie Earl Bennett reps as a punt returner, but his success in training camp on offense hasnít carried over. (Heís dropped a handful of punts.) Iím not sure who would return punts if Hester got hurt. But cornerback Nathan Vasher would probably be among the leading candidates. He possesses great hands, good judgment in terms of when to field a punt and the elusiveness to make defenders miss."


So if he is going to be on the team he will definitely be a RB/WR combination. Mostly seeing draw plays and shovel passes and screens maybe.