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barkley4prez
08-02-2008, 04:56 PM
would you trade battier for barbosa?

Rockets Fanatic
08-02-2008, 05:32 PM
nope

DreamShaker
08-02-2008, 05:41 PM
I don't think Barbosa is needed....if Battier is gonna be traded it needs to be for a PG....

Jay22Redd
08-02-2008, 06:19 PM
no

Rockets Fanatic
08-02-2008, 06:21 PM
why do ppl want to trade Battier, he is still needed

Wizard of O's
08-02-2008, 06:56 PM
with Artest, Battier, Yao and Rafer we have the best defense in the NBA.

and Shane is a slightly above average outside shooter.

So NO.

Rockets Fanatic
08-02-2008, 07:12 PM
with Artest, Battier, Yao and Rafer we have the best defense in the NBA.

and Shane is a slightly above average outside shooter.

So NO.

slightly above? he shot 40 percent from 3 last year

ACEMAN1
08-02-2008, 07:16 PM
it would be nice having a guy like barbosa coming off the bench, but come on battier is like the x-factor if we keep him. battier coming off the bench with his hustle, energy, and hitting those 3's in the corner. so my overall thing is NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! ha ha

JOSETHEALLSTAR
08-02-2008, 08:51 PM
yeah battier is a big part for the rockets success

t-mac1nukka
08-02-2008, 09:37 PM
with Artest, Battier, Yao and Rafer we have the best defense in the NBA.

and Shane is a slightly above average outside shooter.

So NO.

rafer good at d?!?!?!?! thats news to me.

bball1217
08-02-2008, 09:44 PM
If we could get Barbosa without giving up Alston, McGrady, Artest, Scola, Yao, Barry, Francis (trading him would be a stab in the back) or Battier, I would love to get him. :D

bball1217
08-02-2008, 09:49 PM
rafer good at d?!?!?!?! thats news to me.

He is not elite, but he can slow down some good point guards.

Also he can steal the ball well. In his last 5 seasons he has averaged about 1.5 SPG, last year he averaged 1.3 SPG, and averages 1.2 SPG in his career:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/rafer_alston/career_stats.html

He is a good above average defender imo.

Ghostbuster Guy
08-02-2008, 09:52 PM
i rather have shane

t-mac1nukka
08-02-2008, 10:09 PM
he can steal the ball, but the only people ive seen him be good against are the pgs that are short and quick.

tr3ymill3r
08-02-2008, 10:20 PM
with artest and battier, our main scorers like tmac and yao wont have to play hardly any defense, tmac wont have to run around and guard guys like Kobe or AK47. And with a guy like Artest he is going to keep guys on the outside and not even let them get to Yao, and he'll also put someone on their butt if they do get to the rim. Battier is way too valuable especially to a championship team otherwise Morey wouldnt have traded Rudy Gay for him

bball1217
08-02-2008, 10:40 PM
with artest and battier, our main scorers like tmac and yao wont have to play hardly any defense, tmac wont have to run around and guard guys like Kobe or AK47. And with a guy like Artest he is going to keep guys on the outside and not even let them get to Yao, and he'll also put someone on their butt if they do get to the rim. Battier is way too valuable especially to a championship team otherwise Morey wouldnt have traded Rudy Gay for him

True. Good point.

FOBolous
08-03-2008, 12:02 AM
no. Battier > Barbosa

bball1217
08-03-2008, 12:27 AM
no. Battier > Barbosa

I agree. Plus we don't really need Barbosa.

MADspartan
08-03-2008, 01:17 AM
I say barbosa is better than shane, but I still wouldn't make the trade, it doesn't benefit our team enough.

JOSETHEALLSTAR
08-03-2008, 02:00 AM
If we could get Barbosa without giving up Alston, McGrady, Artest, Scola, Yao, Barry, Francis (trading him would be a stab in the back) or Battier, I would love to get him. :D

i agree novak or head .

bcross90
08-03-2008, 02:05 AM
i would say no as well.

one upgrade i would make would be

Rockets Get:

Kirk Hinrich
2010 protected 1st rounder

Bulls Get:

Carl Landry(sign and trade-MLE or maybe a little more)
Rafer Alston
Steve Francis

It may be a little much but Francis is useless and wont help this team at all (unmotivated and out of shape) alston becomes expendable and landry is the key to the deal.

in my opinion harris and dorsey can fill the spot of landry though less talented will command smaller contracts and work just has hard or harder.

hinrich will play better d and make the rockets better because he is a better shooter and a better passer

bball1217
08-03-2008, 02:07 AM
i agree novak or head .

Yeah, something like this:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2166~3081~2834~2763~3018&teams=10~21~21~21~21&te=3238:10-901&cash=
(Through in 2010 First rounder OR second rounder)

Wouldn't that be awesome, I doubt Phoenix would ever do that.

Nice bench though:
Alston/Barbosa/Brooks
McGrady/Barry/Barbosa
Artest/Battier
Scola/Landry/Dorsey
Yao/Mutumbo/Dorsey
IR1: Francis (Rotates with Brooks)
IR2: Tucker (In case of injury)
IR3: Leunen (Playing overseas or in D-League, bring over in case of injury)

bball1217
08-03-2008, 02:09 AM
i would say no as well.

one upgrade i would make would be

Rockets Get:

Kirk Hinrich
2010 protected 1st rounder

Bulls Get:

Carl Landry(sign and trade-MLE or maybe a little more)
Rafer Alston
Steve Francis

It may be a little much but Francis is useless and wont help this team at all (unmotivated and out of shape) alston becomes expendable and landry is the key to the deal.

in my opinion harris and dorsey can fill the spot of landry though less talented will command smaller contracts and work just has hard or harder.

hinrich will play better d and make the rockets better because he is a better shooter and a better passer

We have already discussed this. :D Although it is a little bit different trade.

bcross90
08-03-2008, 02:09 AM
Yeah, something like this:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2166~3081~2834~2763~3018&teams=10~21~21~21~21&te=3238:10-901&cash=

Wouldn't that be awesome, I doubt Phoenix would ever do that.

Nice bench though:
Alston/Barbosa/Brooks
McGrady/Barry/Barbosa
Artest/Battier
Scola/Landry/Dorsey
Yao/Mutumbo/Dorsey
IR1: Francis (Rotates with Brooks)
IR2: Tucker (In case of injury)
IR3: Leunen (Playing overseas or in D-League, bring over in case of injury)

ha its you again i was tryin to get other opinions on my hinrich trade lol. that would never happen. neither would nash to the rockets the one i read earlier. very wishful thinking. remember they are not rebuilding they are trying to win now too.