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rico
08-01-2008, 08:04 PM
Here is the salaries for your team

Trade Player Salary YR Send To TE
Elton Brand (TR) $13,757,844 5
Samuel Dalembert $11,238,564 3
Reggie Evans $4,640,000 3
Willie Green $3,388,000 3
Andre Iguodala -- --
Royal Ivey (TR) $854,957 2
Andre Miller $10,333,334 1
Kareem Rush (TR) $797,581 1
Jason Smith $1,326,360 1
Marreese Speights (TR) $1,542,600 2
Louis Williams -- --
Thaddeus Young $1,968,120 1
76ers Payroll: $58,237,886 Cap Room: $442,114

Also Lou Williams just signed a 6 year contract for how much i wonder? Either way you guys are DEFINATELY over, and Iggy wants what 10-12 mil a year?
How is this even possible if you guys are probably over?

Over at the bulls forum we were figuring a way to maybe get Iggy for our 2 spot. Workin Dalembert in the trade to give you some relief spot and you guys getting Noah (which sucks cuz most of us love noah over there)

anyway i wondered what you thought?

BADizzleBoY
08-01-2008, 08:06 PM
we can bro dont worry about it, he is re~signing so it is different.

rico
08-01-2008, 08:08 PM
we can bro dont worry about it, he is re~signing so it is different.

please explain how then. :) and also would any of you want any deal with chicago? of course nothing involving our core of rose/deng

The best/fairest scenerio we have worked out over there would be:

S&T Iggy & Dalembert for S&T Gordon (pure shooter to go with brand), Hughes (you guys now have our 2010 shot to get wade/lebron others 12mil expiring), Noah

sixerman25
08-01-2008, 08:08 PM
We can go over the cap to resign our own players.

sixerman25
08-01-2008, 08:10 PM
please explain how then. :) and also would any of you want any deal with chicago? of course nothing involving our core of rose/deng

Ok, how about Willie Green for Larry Hughes :rolleyes:

rico
08-01-2008, 08:12 PM
Ok, how about Willie Green for Larry Hughes :rolleyes:

heh. im being serious. id love to get rid of hughes, but youd have to make the #'s match dude.

BADizzleBoY
08-01-2008, 08:12 PM
fair trade, i like it a lot.

rico
08-01-2008, 08:19 PM
fair trade, i like it a lot.

what one?> the ridiculous green for hughes one? or the logical noah, gordon, hughes for dalembert, iggy one?

sixerman25
08-01-2008, 08:20 PM
heh. im being serious. id love to get rid of hughes, but youd have to make the #'s match dude.

Oh right, I forgot how much Hughes makes. Nevermind, lol. Seriously though, I think the Sixers will do whatever it takes to keep Iggy. He's a very integral part of our team. We're trying to establish ourselves as a versatile, defensive minded, fast-break team. Iguodala is pretty much the epitome of that kind of system. He will sign.

rico
08-01-2008, 08:26 PM
Oh right, I forgot how much Hughes makes. Nevermind, lol. Seriously though, I think the Sixers will do whatever it takes to keep Iggy. He's a very integral part of our team. We're trying to establish ourselves as a versatile, defensive minded, fast-break team. Iguodala is pretty much the epitome of that kind of system. He will sign.

but how can you guys afford it is what im tryin to fathom.... with the lou williams signing you are definately over the cap space assuming hes making 6-8mil a year for the next 6 years.

sixerman25
08-01-2008, 08:31 PM
but how can you guys afford it is what im tryin to fathom.... with the lou williams signing you are definately over the cap space assuming hes making 6-8mil a year for the next 6 years.

LARRY BIRD EXCEPTION -- This is the best known one. Players who qualify for this exception are called "Qualifying Veteran Free Agents" in the CBA, and this exception is a component of the Veteran Free Agent exception. This exception allows teams to exceed the salary cap to re-sign their own free agents, up to the player's maximum salary. The player must have played for three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent. This means a player can obtain "Bird rights" by playing under three one-year contracts, a single contract of at least three years, or any combination. It also means that when a player is traded, his Bird rights are traded with him, and his new team can use the Bird exception to re-sign him. These contracts can be up to six years in length. A player can receive raises up to 10.5% of the salary in the first season of the contract. This exception is known as the Larry Bird exception because the Celtics were the first team allowed to exceed the cap to keep their own free agent, and the player happened to be Bird.

Bubba17
08-01-2008, 08:37 PM
Basically, when a player is restricted and/or you have their bird rights, you can go over the cap to sign him. But he has to be our own FA to be restricted or have their bird rights. And he is restricted so we can match anything even if it means going over the cap.

MattCisco
08-01-2008, 08:38 PM
because you can go over the cap to sign your own players. Noone wants Ben Gordon, if the Sixers sign Iggy then we have one of the best starting lineups for the next 5 years. We will not have cap room for a few years, but then we will not need to make any big free agent splashes. Andre Miller also is a FA next year giving us some relief if Lou Williams earns his spot. Therefore Iggy will be a Sixer. Iggy, Brand, Young, and Williams will be untouchable unless the Sixers underachieve (Much like the Bulls did last year). If we were going to sign and trade Iggy it would be for a swingman like Deng or Smith, and that would only be if the Sixers coulden't sign Iggy to a long term deal and another team could (Unlikely).

dougie5627
08-01-2008, 08:39 PM
i may have added it wrong but im pretty sure the salary pre iggy is 49,847,360 so still cap and can go over to sign him

sixerman25
08-01-2008, 08:42 PM
Also, the Carney trade gave us a trade exception that will allows our cap to be about $3 million higher.

flyinhawaiian
08-01-2008, 08:43 PM
please explain how then. :) and also would any of you want any deal with chicago? of course nothing involving our core of rose/deng

The best/fairest scenerio we have worked out over there would be:

S&T Iggy & Dalembert for S&T Gordon (pure shooter to go with brand), Hughes (you guys now have our 2010 shot to get wade/lebron others 12mil expiring), Noah

I'll pass.

Iggy>Gordon
Sammy>Noah

Hughes wouldn't give us enough cap space to sign a megastar not that they would even sign here anyway.

The only chance Ed trades iggy is if we get overwhelmed with a trade offer especially because there is little to no chance that we don't resign iggy.

sixer04fan
08-01-2008, 09:14 PM
i don't think gordon is any good anyway.. no offense but in my opinion he's a rich man's willie green. can't be effective unless he puts up a lot of shots.

Sixerlover
08-01-2008, 09:15 PM
You can go over for your own agents.

FKD215
08-01-2008, 10:24 PM
I have to say, that was an extremely knowledgeable discussion of the Bird Exception. I enjoyed that.

McPeak92
08-01-2008, 10:26 PM
please explain how then. :) and also would any of you want any deal with chicago? of course nothing involving our core of rose/deng

The best/fairest scenerio we have worked out over there would be:

S&T Iggy & Dalembert for S&T Gordon (pure shooter to go with brand), Hughes (you guys now have our 2010 shot to get wade/lebron others 12mil expiring), Noah

uh HELLLL to the NO....how about WG for Rose straight up?



we will go over and use his bird rights, Ed Snider is a wealthy man.

Shieldsz
08-01-2008, 10:54 PM
We can re-sign our own players even if it means going over the cap.

Also I would never trade Green for Hughes. I hate hughes even more (he has his own HATE website)

BChydro86
08-01-2008, 11:01 PM
Also, the Carney trade gave us a trade exception that will allows our cap to be about $3 million higher.

we didnt get a trade exception....how can we get a trade exception when we are already UNDER the cap?

that trade got us cap room. not a trade exception.

DaddyCool
08-01-2008, 11:13 PM
We can use the trade exception in a trade. We can take back 2.8 million than we give. Anyways that trade is dumb. Iggy will be a sixers. You can blame yourselves for not taking him. Instead you took Ben Gordon with the 3rd pick. lol. Loul was a good pick though...

BChydro86
08-01-2008, 11:22 PM
We can use the trade exception in a trade. We can take back 2.8 million than we give. Anyways that trade is dumb. Iggy will be a sixers. You can blame yourselves for not taking him. Instead you took Ben Gordon with the 3rd pick. lol. Loul was a good pick though...

no we cant.

Jeff Boyd
08-01-2008, 11:44 PM
no we cant.

Hydro I think we can.

DaddyCool
08-02-2008, 02:20 AM
I'm pretty sure we can Hydro.
Besides it 2 against 1.

McPeak92
08-02-2008, 02:59 AM
no we definitely cant, when you make a trade were you take in less money and you are already under the cap you have to waive it and it just adds to your cap money, i am 100% sure Hydro is right here.

Mandrew
08-02-2008, 03:07 AM
Wow so many people didn't know you can go over the cap to sign your own players? Does anyone play NBA 07 in here?

stevedusps
08-02-2008, 03:16 AM
With Lou Will signed we should still be under $55 mil which doesnt matter since we can go over the cap to sign Iggy anyway. No we dont have the trade exception because when you turn it into cap space it is no longer useable. When Iggy is signed it will give us a great starting five with a really good bench, and with how young this team is who knows how good we'll be in two years, were not trading any big pieces right now, and I doubt this team will underachieve like the Bulls since we have nothing but quality hard working young players.

DaddyCool
08-02-2008, 07:02 AM
no we definitely cant, when you make a trade were you take in less money and you are already under the cap you have to waive it and it just adds to your cap money, i am 100% sure Hydro is right here.

Wait I said that the trade exception allows us to take 2.8 million more than we give. So basically we can send out like 10 mil and take in 12.8 mil, because of the trade exception. But it doesn't really matter because trades that include trad exceptions are very rare and you only have a year to use it. Golden state didn't use it when they traded J-Rich for Brendan Wright.

BChydro86
08-02-2008, 09:15 AM
there is no such thing as a "trade exception" when a team in already under the cap. it just becomes more cap room.

there is no trade exception. we used the extra cap room to sign elton brand.

Liney3506
08-02-2008, 09:52 AM
Wait I said that the trade exception allows us to take 2.8 million more than we give. So basically we can send out like 10 mil and take in 12.8 mil, because of the trade exception. But it doesn't really matter because trades that include trad exceptions are very rare and you only have a year to use it. Golden state didn't use it when they traded J-Rich for Brendan Wright.

Let's get this straight.

We're not using it in a trade with the Bulls. The end.

DaddyCool
08-02-2008, 09:57 AM
lol Fair enough, Ed Stefanski will resign Iggy and this will be another pointless thread.

Liney3506
08-02-2008, 10:00 AM
****ing Bulls fans :pity:

DaddyCool
08-02-2008, 10:09 AM
LOL, they're so lucky... Frickin Rose...

BChydro86
08-02-2008, 10:24 AM
Let's get this straight.

We're not using it in a trade with the Bulls. The end.

thats because it doesnt exist!

seriously...how do u people not understand that?

FNM BOY
08-02-2008, 10:29 AM
Because they are confused Hydro....I can't wait until Iggy gets signed so all of this cow dung can be over with!!

Liney3506
08-02-2008, 10:29 AM
thats because it doesnt exist!

seriously...how do u people not understand that?

Who. Gives. A. ****.

BChydro86
08-02-2008, 10:39 AM
apparently quite a few people. its not like i brought it up.

and apparently you do since u were posting about it

Liney3506
08-02-2008, 11:19 AM
apparently quite a few people. its not like i brought it up.

and apparently you do since u were posting about it

My posts were to the tune of "Who cares".

BChydro86
08-02-2008, 11:29 AM
touche

Philly Gringo
08-02-2008, 12:18 PM
touche

Sorry, but I had to at your response hydro. Not at you but because "touche" always reminds me of White Goodman (played by Ben Stiller) in the movie "Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story". If you guys haven't seen it yet, it is a must. Very funny!

BADizzleBoY
08-02-2008, 12:20 PM
:pity:

rico
08-02-2008, 12:24 PM
My posts were to the tune of "Who cares".

wow you're right there towards the tip top of people who dont fail to be a dick.
congratz - added.

to the other fans thank you for the insight on the signings for your own members and the cap.

sixerman25
08-02-2008, 12:37 PM
there is no such thing as a "trade exception" when a team in already under the cap. it just becomes more cap room.

there is no trade exception. we used the extra cap room to sign elton brand.

Call it what you will, whatever it is we got from the Carney trade it gives us more cap room period. It allowed us to sign Brand for as much as we could having already considered how much we will have to pay Iguodala.

BChydro86
08-02-2008, 12:42 PM
^^i know...thats exactly what i said.

Liney3506
08-02-2008, 12:44 PM
wow you're right there towards the tip top of people who dont fail to be a dick.
congratz - added.

to the other fans thank you for the insight on the signings for your own members and the cap.

Oh boy. I made the ignore list. Stick another feather in my cap.

philsphan2654
08-02-2008, 03:33 PM
Bird Years