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CAIN=FUTURE
07-29-2008, 02:06 AM
What 5 teams do you think are the most likely to stick around in their city for a very long time. I say the Giants, dodgers, Yankees, Redsox, Cubs. Honorable mention to the Cardinals.

(5 votes on poll)

x_notorious
07-29-2008, 02:11 AM
Top 3 is easy. (In no order)

-Red Sox
-Yankees
-Cubs

Those teams have very rich baseball history and huge fan bases in their respective cities. There is no way on earth they will move in the near future, or move at all for that matter.

Nugget153
07-29-2008, 02:11 AM
I agree with your five. Another five to add on though.

Braves
Rockies
Washington
Angels
Phillies

Run Gardner Run
07-29-2008, 02:11 AM
Yankees were close to moving to Jersey werent they?

But there are alot of teams that will never move

PhillyUD26
07-29-2008, 02:12 AM
Well the Giants and Dodgers have already moved...so can ya really put em on this list? :rolleyes:

Yendil
07-29-2008, 02:15 AM
I voted Mariners, Yankees, Red Sox, Indians and Braves

bosox3431
07-29-2008, 02:15 AM
Well the Giants and Dodgers have already moved...so can ya really put em on this list? :rolleyes:

do you think they will move again, thats what he's asking.

And I did it worng:o I voted for every team I didnt think would movie, only didnt vote for 4:o

07MVPPatBurrell
07-29-2008, 02:16 AM
what is the point of this? 75% of the league will never move.

db75
07-29-2008, 02:16 AM
Top 3 is easy. (In no order)

-Red Sox
-Yankees
-Cubs


Agree completely.

I would imagine two others are:

-Cardinals
-Dodgers

The Top 3 are easy, and there are a decent number of teams to choose from for the last 2 spots, IMO.

CAIN=FUTURE
07-29-2008, 02:18 AM
what is the point of this? 75% of the league will never move.

Probably 90%. But I'm just asking what teams meant the most unlikely.

CAIN=FUTURE
07-29-2008, 02:19 AM
do you think they will move again, thats what he's asking.

And I did it worng:o I voted for every team I didnt think would movie, only didnt vote for 4:o

Because they were to good of franchises to play in the Yankees shadow. Whos gonna push the Giants out...the A's? Pa lease.

db75
07-29-2008, 02:19 AM
I voted Mariners, Yankees, Red Sox, Indians and Braves

How could you not include the Cubbies? They've been around nearly as long as NY and Boston (not to mention having one of the Baseball Meccas in Wrigley Field).

kvrnm
07-29-2008, 02:19 AM
red sox, cards definetly, the whole city revolves around that team, the rams dont even matter. yankees, cubs, and prolly as a 5th choice.... the dodgers

x_notorious
07-29-2008, 02:20 AM
The choices are pretty obvious for most, the better question is, "Which is the team that will most likely leave their city?"

CAIN=FUTURE
07-29-2008, 02:25 AM
The choices are pretty obvious for most, the better question is, "Which is the team that will most likely leave their city?"

The Marlins.

bosox3431
07-29-2008, 02:25 AM
Because they were to good of franchises to play in the Yankees shadow. Whos gonna push the Giants out...the A's? Pa lease.

I never said they were going to leave. I dont think they will. I think he misunderstood the question and I was trying to explain it a little better

CAIN=FUTURE
07-29-2008, 02:26 AM
I never said they were going to leave. I dont think they will. I think he misunderstood the question and I was trying to explain it a little better

Oh.

eyememine
07-29-2008, 06:25 AM
I never said they were going to leave. I dont think they will. I think he misunderstood the question and I was trying to explain it a little better

They almost left until Bonds saved the day. Now on the field your Miami Giants!!!!


Anyhow any team with a new stadium I don't think is going anywhere anytime soon

Kinsm
07-29-2008, 06:37 AM
There is about zero chance of any of these teams leaving their current location.

For one, almost all of them have new stadiums and in return have 20-35 year leases with the cities....these leases are nearly unbreakable.

And secondly, where are they going to go if they decide to move? MLB teams are already located in the largest populated cities in the country, there are very few large cities that could sustain a big league club that don't already have one. And most of those cities can't have one due to the rules mlb has in place that a team can't move within a certain distance of an already established mlb club. The second tier cities almost all have AAA teams in their proximity, an mlb team would shut them down. As an example, when the expos moved the Orioles had to okay it due to its proximity to them, in fact I think MLB paid the Orioles to allow it.

I know the Browns did it, but baseball is very different than the nfl, the nfl doesn't really need a large city to operate, they only have eight home games so nearly anywhere you build a team people are going to drive to see it.

About the only chance of seeing a team in another city is if their is another expansion...i.e. Charlotte or Portland being added to mlb. I wouldn't count on another expansion for some time, current owners are greedy enough they down want two more teams watering down their revenues.

GIANTS4LIFE28
07-29-2008, 06:54 AM
I agree with your five. Another five to add on though.

Braves
RockiesWashington
Angels
Phillies
since washingtons became a club them and colorado made the playoffs a combined time of once that doesnt give you a lot of fans

koldjerky
07-29-2008, 07:21 AM
The Phillies have as much a history (tenure-wise) as the yanks, cubs and redsox so I'm just wondering how those 3 are "easily" the obvious choices? Last time I checked the Phillies won a WS more recently than the Cubs.

flips333
07-29-2008, 08:31 AM
How could you not include the Cubbies? They've been around nearly as long as NY and Boston (not to mention having one of the Baseball Meccas in Wrigley Field).

longer even

PSU840
07-29-2008, 09:11 AM
Yankees
Red Sox
Cubs
Phillies
Dodgers

Yendil
07-29-2008, 10:47 AM
How could you not include the Cubbies? They've been around nearly as long as NY and Boston (not to mention having one of the Baseball Meccas in Wrigley Field).

Real easily..... Redsox are bostons only team.... Yankees make more money than I even want to know about.....Cleveland only has 1 team, Atlanta only has one team. And there isn't a team within 1000 miles of Seattle so they arnt going anywhere. Chicago has 2 teams so by the odds the 1 team cities that make alot of money as well have a better shot of staying than a team in a 2 team city.

chaseismyhero
07-29-2008, 10:55 AM
Red Sox
Cubs
Phillies
Yankees
Mets

Apophis
07-29-2008, 01:26 PM
Yankees were close to moving to Jersey werent they?

But there are alot of teams that will never move

That was Steinbrenner just saying that so he can get another stadium at the time.. He was never going to leave NY..

I picked Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, Cubs and White Sox....

ActionJaxon
07-29-2008, 06:14 PM
Real easily..... Redsox are bostons only team.... Yankees make more money than I even want to know about.....Cleveland only has 1 team, Atlanta only has one team. And there isn't a team within 1000 miles of Seattle so they arnt going anywhere. Chicago has 2 teams so by the odds the 1 team cities that make alot of money as well have a better shot of staying than a team in a 2 team city.

Yea....umm....I dont think you know anything about the Cubs and Chicago...

MetsFan28
07-29-2008, 06:19 PM
Boston Chicago and New York teams will never move. Ever.

CarniifeX
07-29-2008, 06:19 PM
Ha, I like how you dont have the courtesy to capitalize the D in Dodgers.

bigboyblu
07-29-2008, 06:27 PM
I voted for
Dodgers
Yankees
Red Sox
Phillies
Cardinals
I forgot about the Cubs so I would put them ahead of Cards

Tragedy
07-29-2008, 06:29 PM
Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs, Phillies, Tigers.

At the people that voted Marlins: :pity:

hyp21
07-29-2008, 06:52 PM
what is the point of this? 75% of the league will never move.

More like 90% imo

L-MiLLZ44
07-29-2008, 07:12 PM
every team that doesn't play in florida

Joba Rules!!
07-29-2008, 07:14 PM
Top 3 is easy. (In no order)

-Red Sox
-Yankees
-Cubs

Those teams have very rich baseball history and huge fan bases in their respective cities. There is no way on earth they will move in the near future, or move at all for that matter.

Yup


I agree with your five. Another five to add on though.

Braves
Rockies
Washington
Angels
Phillies

Eh, I wouldn't be so sure about that.

pad1
07-29-2008, 08:28 PM
All these were pretty clear cut: yanks, R-Sox, Cubs, Dodgers.

Rochesta
07-29-2008, 08:31 PM
Nats might last a decade because of the new ballpark but I don't think that their future is that secure. This just isn't a baseball market, and the people who did like baseball seemed to stay loyal to the Orioles.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
07-29-2008, 08:41 PM
I think any city that has had a for a good amount of time they will be staying.

Yendil
07-29-2008, 08:45 PM
Yea....umm....I dont think you know anything about the Cubs and Chicago...

Yea....ummm....I don't think you know anything about odds.

The teams I named except Yankees because they make more money than anyone are all 1 Team Cities. Chicago is not, therefore Chicago is at greater odds to lose a team than the other high market clubs that don't share its territory. Its simple economics........... And considering our recent downfall in economy its only a matter of time before those people can't go to alot of the games because thats 2 teams, so which one do they go to?? It will be the one doing better or will win a WS forcing 1 team out because the city can't afford 2 teams, therefor one would have to go. The other teams are the only team in that city or even close so they continue to draw revenue (exception of Yankees, even though the "NY" Teams are really New York's Team in the Yankees, and New Jersey's team in the Mets). I don't see how this is rocket science really it's just a thing of odds, the 5 teams I listed are at better odds of staying based on what I said than the Cubs, if you don't like it becuase "your" team isn't on there, then thats just something you will have to deal with. This isn't a homer contest its a poll about what 5 teams do you feel won't move, get over it I didn't put the Cubs, it's not the end of the world.

misterd
07-29-2008, 10:08 PM
1. Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Cubs would be nuts to leave their towns. There are no bigger or better markets and all have a substantial fanbase.

2. Red Sox- there are bigger markets than Boston, but not many with so rabid and loyal a fanbase. They'd be fools to leave too.

3. The teams most likely to leave are those without deep roots, have not performed well for a long time, and have trouble drawing crowds. The one that is the biggest worry should be Washington - I mean, they lost 2 teams already! I can see either Florida team evacuating, too.

4. One problem with moving now is that there are fewer markets available to move to. Nevada is one of the most glaring opportunities, but I don't know that MLB would ever move a team to Vegas.

sanfranfan1210
07-29-2008, 10:14 PM
My top 5

Red Sox
Yankees
Cubs
Phillies
Giants

SportsFan1988
07-29-2008, 10:17 PM
My 5 votes went to the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Cardinals, and Dodgers. Another honorable mention would be the Mets.

Don't expect any of those teams to be moving anywhere, for a very, very long time.

koldjerky
07-29-2008, 10:18 PM
Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs, Phillies, Tigers.

At the people that voted Marlins: :pity:

So far that is 3 more fans than I thought. :shrug:... of course letsgofish could be lurking around yet.

Yendil
07-29-2008, 10:24 PM
1. Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Cubs would be nuts to leave their towns. There are no bigger or better markets and all have a substantial fanbase.

2. Red Sox- there are bigger markets than Boston, but not many with so rabid and loyal a fanbase. They'd be fools to leave too.

3. The teams most likely to leave are those without deep roots, have not performed well for a long time, and have trouble drawing crowds. The one that is the biggest worry should be Washington - I mean, they lost 2 teams already! I can see either Florida team evacuating, too.

4. One problem with moving now is that there are fewer markets available to move to. Nevada is one of the most glaring opportunities, but I don't know that MLB would ever move a team to Vegas.


man could you image the corruption that would lead to..................

koldjerky
07-29-2008, 10:26 PM
Ehh it's only corruption if you let it happen. If you know how to run it and where to place it, it shouldn't be AS much of a problem.

Yendil
07-29-2008, 10:49 PM
Ehh it's only corruption if you let it happen. If you know how to run it and where to place it, it shouldn't be AS much of a problem.

It's also Vegas, the only logical potential buyers in Vegas would be Casino Owners, i just find it humorous..........

Philly4life84
07-29-2008, 10:52 PM
Phillies will always be there. Philly fans are very passionate about there teams plus they will kick your *** if you try to take one away!:mad:

RedHeadsRule
07-29-2008, 11:41 PM
Cardinals
Cubs
Phillies
Red Sox
Yankees

shrek
07-30-2008, 12:18 AM
Top 5:
Cubs
Yankees
Red Sox
Mets
Cards



New stadium teams will not move for next 30 years
Yankees --> Getting a new stadium so they will be on lease for next 30 years
Nationals --> Just built a new stadium and on lease for 20/30 years so they will be there guaranteed for that time
Twins --> New stadium and same story
Mets --> New Stadium

nyteamsports09
07-30-2008, 12:29 AM
i'd say the only team that is in danger of moving is the marlins........unless they can get a new stadium

homestarunner93
07-30-2008, 01:40 AM
Yea....ummm....I don't think you know anything about odds.

The teams I named except Yankees because they make more money than anyone are all 1 Team Cities. Chicago is not, therefore Chicago is at greater odds to lose a team than the other high market clubs that don't share its territory. Its simple economics........... And considering our recent downfall in economy its only a matter of time before those people can't go to alot of the games because thats 2 teams, so which one do they go to?? It will be the one doing better or will win a WS forcing 1 team out because the city can't afford 2 teams, therefor one would have to go. The other teams are the only team in that city or even close so they continue to draw revenue (exception of Yankees, even though the "NY" Teams are really New York's Team in the Yankees, and New Jersey's team in the Mets). I don't see how this is rocket science really it's just a thing of odds, the 5 teams I listed are at better odds of staying based on what I said than the Cubs, if you don't like it becuase "your" team isn't on there, then thats just something you will have to deal with. This isn't a homer contest its a poll about what 5 teams do you feel won't move, get over it I didn't put the Cubs, it's not the end of the world.
You're dumb to think the Cubs have even a .0001% chance of going anywhere. All of Chicago loves the Cubs, Chicago can support two teams, and I know you tried to explain the NY deal, but if the Yankees having staying power with 2 NY teams, the Cubs have even more staying power in Chicago. Sorry, but the Cubs aren't going anywhere in the next 100 million years.

vladdy#27
07-30-2008, 01:48 AM
The Angels they might change there name but i dont see them moving anywhere

Kinsm
07-30-2008, 02:18 AM
Top 5:
New stadium teams will not move for at least 30 years
Yankees --> Getting a new stadium so they will be on lease for next 30 years
Nationals --> Just built a new stadium and on lease for 20/30 years so they will be there guaranteed for that time
Twins --> New stadium and same story
Mets --> New Stadium

Nearly every team has a new stadium built within the last 12-15 years.

American League Stadium Yr. Built
Boston Red Sox Fenway Park 1912
Baltimore Orioles Camden Yards 1992
Toronto Blue Jays Rogers Centre 1989
New York Yankees Yankee Stadium 2009
Tampa Bay Devil Rays Tropica Field 1998
Cleveland Indians Jacobs Field 1994
Detroit Tigers Comerica Park 2000
Minnesota Twins Minny Park 2010
Chicago White Sox U.S. Cellular Field 1991
Kansas City Royals Kauffman Stadium 1973, renovations in 2007
Los Angeles Angels Angel Stadium 1966, renovations in 1998
Seattle Mariners Safeco Field 1999
Oakland Athletics Cisco Field 2012
Texas Rangers Ameriquest Field 1994
National League Stadium Yr. Built
New York Mets Citi Field 2009
Atlanta Braves Turner Field 1997
Philadelphia Phillies Cititzens Bank 2004
Florida Marlins Dolphin Stadium*** 1993
Washington Nationals Nationals Park 2008
Milwaukee Brewers Miller Park 2001
Pittsburgh Pirates PNC Park 2001
St. Louis Cardinals Busch Stadium 2006
Houston Astros Minute Maid Park 2000
Chicago Cubs Wrigley Field 1916
Cincinnati Reds Great American 2003
Colorado Rockies Coors Field 1995
Los Angeles Dodgers Dodger Stadium 1962
San Diego Padres PetCo Park 2004
Arizona Diamondbacks Chase Field 1998
San Francisco Giants AT&T Park 2000

In the National League with the exceptions of the Dodgers and Cubs (and Marlins) no stadium opened pre-1995. And in the American League with the exceptions of the Red Sox, Angels, and Royals no stadium opened pre-1989.

Sox Appeal
07-30-2008, 02:19 AM
- Red Sox
- Yankees
- Dodgers
- White Sox
- Cubs

redbird89
07-30-2008, 02:59 AM
I say Red Sox, Yankees, and Cubs absolutely.

If anyone ever tried to take the Cardinals out of St. Louis I think there would be a gigantic riot and somebody would need a bodyguard. But I don't think it'll ever happen. The Blues were almost moved to Saskatoon, fortunately that didn't happen, and I don't see them moving any time soon. The Rams nobody really knows right now. The Rams owners (the Rams "aren't for sale" can contractually demand a new or improved stadium).

I also don't see the Dodgers moving. Probably not the Phillies either.

JETty12213
07-30-2008, 03:13 AM
gotta be yanks hands down.

CAUSE THEY THE BEST
THEY THE ****:smoking:

nascar10294
07-30-2008, 08:47 AM
Top 3 are easy (Cubs, Yanks, BoSox)

Then you could make arguments for numerous teams.

Mets (highly popular in NYC, but not else where)
Dodgers/Giants (have moved already, could happen again)
White Sox (dont know much ans, but I about the fans, but I assume its like the Mets)
St. Louis (been there forever, who else would you root for in the Mid-West? KC)
Twins (are getting a new stadium)
Phillies (highly popular)

I vote top 3 and Mets and Phils.

Yendil
07-30-2008, 10:09 AM
You're dumb to think the Cubs have even a .0001% chance of going anywhere. All of Chicago loves the Cubs, Chicago can support two teams, and I know you tried to explain the NY deal, but if the Yankees having staying power with 2 NY teams, the Cubs have even more staying power in Chicago. Sorry, but the Cubs aren't going anywhere in the next 100 million years.

first of all i never said they were going to leave, but someone cried because I didn't put them in the top 5 when really theres only like 5 teams that could ever move. Maybe you should read what I posted before making assumptions.

PhillyRocks
07-30-2008, 10:19 AM
Phils are the oldest team. No doubt they should have more votes then anybody else.

Kinsm
07-30-2008, 10:56 AM
Phils are the oldest team. No doubt they should have more votes then anybody else.

Reds?

Cullksinikers
07-30-2008, 12:31 PM
Cubs and Braves came in 1876.....

Kinsm
07-30-2008, 12:49 PM
The Cincinnati Red Stockings were the first all professional team in 1869, they were founded in 1863 during the Civil War. Many of the players moved to Boston...others stayed in Cincinnati where they created a new team also called the Red Stockings (the present day Reds) who founded the American Association and then moved to the National League (where they dropped the Stockings).

This is why the current Reds had been awarded with the first game every season (at home) (till recently when they went international) now they are always awarded with a Home opener.

Yankees213
07-30-2008, 02:24 PM
The "obvious" ones are the
Yankees
Red Sox
Cubs
Cardinals
Phillies

I'd say those are the top 5 but how about the White Sox, Cincinnati, Detroit, Pittsburgh and Cleveland. Those are my 5 that no one seems to be mentioning too much.

THINKBLUE15
07-30-2008, 06:55 PM
Well the Giants and Dodgers have already moved...so can ya really put em on this list? :rolleyes:

First of all, the Dodgers and Giants stranended sports by expanding to the west coast, and with what the Dodgers have done in Los Angeles, they will never move. They aren't even moving out of Dodger stadium for at least 60-70 years. Dodger Stadium looks as beautiful as the day it opened, and holds so much history. The Dodgers have guniess records for attendence, are in the top 2-3 every year in attendence, and they are spending 500 million dollars over the next few years on renovations to make sure it is the home of the Dodgers for 50 more years at least.

And the Giants, despite not doing much in SanFran will not move either. They too have a rich history, and a stadium that is up ther with the best of them.


Top 3 are easy (Cubs, Yanks, BoSox)

Then you could make arguments for numerous teams.

Mets (highly popular in NYC, but not else where)
Dodgers/Giants (have moved already, could happen again)
White Sox (dont know much ans, but I about the fans, but I assume its like the Mets)
St. Louis (been there forever, who else would you root for in the Mid-West? KC)
Twins (are getting a new stadium)
Phillies (highly popular)

I vote top 3 and Mets and Phils.

You are on crack if you think the Dodgers are moving.

Yankees
Redsox
Cubs
Dodgers
Phillies/Cards