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CardinalRed4eva
07-26-2008, 04:36 PM
I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, so I thought I'd start one up.

Top 10 Point Guards
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Steve Nash
4.Baron Davis
5.Gilbert Arenas
6.Chauncey Billups
7.Jason Kidd
8.Andre Miller
9.Tony Parker
10.Raymond Felton

Top 10 Shooting Guards
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwayne Wade
3.Allen Iverson
4.Manu Ginobili
5.Michael Redd
6.Joe Johnson
7.Kevin Martin
8.Vince Carter
9.Jason Richardson
10.Brandon Roy

Top 10 Small Forwards
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Tracy McGrady
5.Caron Butler
6.Andre Iguodala
7.Gerald Wallace
8.Richard Jefferson
9.Josh Smith
10.Shawn Marion

Top 10 Power Forwards
1.Tim Duncan
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Carlos Boozer
5.Chris Bosh
6.Elton Brand
7.Pau Gasol
8.David West
9.Antwan Jamison
10.Zach Randolph

Top 10 Centers
1.Dwight Howard
2.Amare Stoudimire
3.Yao Ming
4.Al Jefferson
5.Chris Kaman
6.Andrew Bynum
7.Rasheed Wallace
8.Andrew Bogut
9.Marcus Camby
10.Brad Miller

BADizzleBoY
07-26-2008, 04:38 PM
Everything is awesome besides bynum being the 6th best center, Dalembert should be on this list, andre miller should be number 10

black1605
07-26-2008, 04:58 PM
Emeka Okafor doesn't make the PF list but Zach Randolph does?

bostncelts34
07-26-2008, 05:01 PM
I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, so I thought I'd start one up.

Top 10 Point Guards
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Steve Nash
4.Baron Davis
5.Gilbert Arenas
6.Chauncey Billups
7.Jason Kidd
8.Andre Miller
9.Tony Parker
10.Raymond Felton

Top 10 Shooting Guards
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwayne Wade
3.Allen Iverson
4.Manu Ginobili
5.Michael Redd
6.Joe Johnson
7.Kevin Martin
8.Vince Carter
9.Jason Richardson
10.Brandon Roy

Top 10 Small Forwards
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Tracy McGrady
5.Caron Butler
6.Andre Iguodala
7.Gerald Wallace
8.Richard Jefferson
9.Josh Smith
10.Shawn Marion

Top 10 Power Forwards
1.Tim Duncan
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Carlos Boozer
5.Chris Bosh
6.Elton Brand
7.Pau Gasol
8.David West
9.Antwan Jamison
10.Zach Randolph

Top 10 Centers
1.Dwight Howard
2.Amare Stoudimire
3.Yao Ming
4.Al Jefferson
5.Chris Kaman
6.Andrew Bynum
7.Rasheed Wallace
8.Andrew Bogut
9.Marcus Camby
10.Brad Miller



MISSING: ANDRE MILLER, EMEKA OKAFOR, Ray ALlen.

ANd how is Carmello ahead of pierce...

SportsFan1988
07-26-2008, 05:03 PM
MISSING: ANDRE MILLER, EMEKA OKAFOR, Ray ALlen.

ANd how is Carmello ahead of pierce...

Millers on the list


8.Andre Miller

bostncelts34
07-26-2008, 05:08 PM
ahhh my bad. read over him i guess.


is bynum really the 6th best center???

black1605
07-26-2008, 05:12 PM
i would say so, maybe even above jefferson if you want to talk raw talent

bostncelts34
07-26-2008, 05:13 PM
Raw talent he belong's at 6 yes. But realistically...he hasnt done ANYTHING in the NBA to put him above camby and such.

BADizzleBoY
07-26-2008, 05:16 PM
may i add, this is an EXCELLENT list.

18colts29
07-26-2008, 05:30 PM
Tony Parker should be 4 or 5.

Lakersfan2483
07-26-2008, 05:47 PM
I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, so I thought I'd start one up.

Top 10 Point Guards
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Steve Nash
4.Baron Davis
5.Gilbert Arenas
6.Chauncey Billups
7.Jason Kidd
8.Andre Miller
9.Tony Parker
10.Raymond Felton

Top 10 Shooting Guards
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwayne Wade
3.Allen Iverson
4.Manu Ginobili
5.Michael Redd
6.Joe Johnson
7.Kevin Martin
8.Vince Carter
9.Jason Richardson
10.Brandon Roy

Top 10 Small Forwards
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Tracy McGrady
5.Caron Butler
6.Andre Iguodala
7.Gerald Wallace
8.Richard Jefferson
9.Josh Smith
10.Shawn Marion

Top 10 Power Forwards
1.Tim Duncan
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Carlos Boozer
5.Chris Bosh
6.Elton Brand
7.Pau Gasol
8.David West
9.Antwan Jamison
10.Zach Randolph

Top 10 Centers
1.Dwight Howard
2.Amare Stoudimire
3.Yao Ming
4.Al Jefferson
5.Chris Kaman
6.Andrew Bynum
7.Rasheed Wallace
8.Andrew Bogut
9.Marcus Camby
10.Brad Miller

Where is Shaq? He is still a top ten center for sure. Also, why is Randolph on the list, where is Artest, R. Allen, Okafor, Odom?

Lakersfan2483
07-26-2008, 05:51 PM
Monta Ellis and Marbury are better than Raymond Felton.

ARMIN12NBA
07-26-2008, 06:05 PM
Al Jefferson and Amare Staudamire are definately more of power forwards than centers. They play both positions, but I would say that they are both better and more suited for the power forward spot. The centers should be Dwight, Yao, Kaman, Bynum, etc. and then the power forwards should include Amare and Jefferson and you can slide out Jamison and especially Randolph. Also Tracy McGrady and Caron Butler are better than Pierce IMO.

t mac and vick
07-26-2008, 06:06 PM
Well considering t mac plays 2 as a natural position so why is he under the 3 spot this list was f u c k e d since jump street

t mac and vick
07-26-2008, 06:07 PM
How is melo better than t mac what has he done how many scoring titles or first rounds has he been out of and he has a.i to score with him

$KnicksAndKobe$
07-26-2008, 06:18 PM
Put steph in there, he is just in a crappy team with the worst GM in history(was Isiah)

Oh and Eddy should be in number 10, he will be top 5 again when Zach is gone
T-mac is better then Melo

Goon.Weezy
07-26-2008, 06:33 PM
I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, so I thought I'd start one up.

Top 10 Point Guards
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Steve Nash
4.Baron Davis
5.Gilbert Arenas
6.Chauncey Billups
7.Jason Kidd
8.Andre Miller
9.Tony Parker
10.Raymond Felton

Top 10 Shooting Guards
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwayne Wade
3.Allen Iverson
4.Manu Ginobili
5.Michael Redd
6.Joe Johnson
7.Kevin Martin
8.Vince Carter
9.Jason Richardson
10.Brandon Roy

Top 10 Small Forwards
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Tracy McGrady
5.Caron Butler
6.Andre Iguodala
7.Gerald Wallace
8.Richard Jefferson
9.Josh Smith
10.Shawn Marion

Top 10 Power Forwards
1.Tim Duncan
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Carlos Boozer
5.Chris Bosh
6.Elton Brand
7.Pau Gasol
8.David West
9.Antwan Jamison
10.Zach Randolph

Top 10 Centers
1.Dwight Howard
2.Amare Stoudimire
3.Yao Ming
4.Al Jefferson
5.Chris Kaman
6.Andrew Bynum
7.Rasheed Wallace
8.Andrew Bogut
9.Marcus Camby
10.Brad Miller

ARE U FUKIN JOKIN.......RAYMOND FELTON 10th..........WOW..........JOSE CALDERON SHUD BE IN THE TOP 10

MTone8788
07-26-2008, 06:41 PM
How are you going to put Dwayne Wade above Allen Iverson when he only played 51 games last year on the worst team... Don't get me wrong, Dwayne Wade is great, but I don't think you are being very current

MTone8788
07-26-2008, 06:43 PM
Put steph in there, he is just in a crappy team with the worst GM in history(was Isiah)

Oh and Eddy should be in number 10, he will be top 5 again when Zach is gone
T-mac is better then Melo



No, Eddy Curry is not even better than Samuel Dalembert.. and last year Marbury didn't even play 25 games... pfft..

*Superman*
07-26-2008, 06:45 PM
I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, so I thought I'd start one up.

Top 10 Centers
1.Dwight Howard
2.Amare Stoudimire
3.Yao Ming
4.Al Jefferson
5.Chris Kaman
6.Andrew Bynum
7.Rasheed Wallace
8.Andrew Bogut
9.Marcus Camby
10.Brad Miller

Thats all i needed to see.

Dwight>>Yao

Westbrook36
07-26-2008, 06:48 PM
I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, so I thought I'd start one up.

Top 10 Point Guards
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Steve Nash
4.Baron Davis
5.Gilbert Arenas
6.Chauncey Billups
7.Jason Kidd
8.Andre Miller
9.Tony Parker
10.Raymond Felton

Top 10 Shooting Guards
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwayne Wade
3.Allen Iverson
4.Manu Ginobili
5.Michael Redd
6.Joe Johnson
7.Kevin Martin
8.Vince Carter
9.Jason Richardson
10.Brandon Roy

Top 10 Small Forwards
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Tracy McGrady
5.Caron Butler
6.Andre Iguodala
7.Gerald Wallace
8.Richard Jefferson
9.Josh Smith
10.Shawn Marion

Top 10 Power Forwards
1.Tim Duncan
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Carlos Boozer
5.Chris Bosh
6.Elton Brand
7.Pau Gasol
8.David West
9.Antwan Jamison
10.Zach Randolph

Top 10 Centers
1.Dwight Howard
2.Amare Stoudimire
3.Yao Ming
4.Al Jefferson
5.Chris Kaman
6.Andrew Bynum
7.Rasheed Wallace
8.Andrew Bogut
9.Marcus Camby
10.Brad Miller

Overall I like it alot. I think that Al Jefferson is a Power Forward and Amare is a Power Forward, Z-Bo should not be top 10 Power Forward. I still like the list alot

alexander_37
07-26-2008, 07:01 PM
tmac is > melo and tmac is a SG

SwaggaIke
07-26-2008, 07:30 PM
1. Deron Williams
2. Chris Paul
3. Tony Parker
4. Baron Davis
5. Chauncey Billups
6. Steve Nash
7. Gilbert Arenas
8. Jason Kidd
9. Andre Miller
10. Jose Calderon

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Tracy McGrady
4. Allen Iverson
5. Manu Ginobili
6. Joe Johnson
7. Brandon Roy
8. Vince Carter
9. Monta Ellis
10. Kevin Martin

1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Caron Butler
5. Richard Jefferson
6. Gerald Wallace
7. Andre Iguodala
8. Josh Smith
9. Shawn Marion
10. Luol Deng

1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Amare Stoudemire
4. Chris Bosh
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Elton Brand
7. Carlos Boozer
8. David West
9. Antwan Jamison
10. Al Jefferson

1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Marcus Camby
4. Shaquille O'Neal
5. Chris Kaman
6. Tyson Chandler
7. Rasheed Wallace
8. Andrew Bynum
9. Andrew Bogut
10. Brad Miller

monty77
07-26-2008, 07:30 PM
I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, so I thought I'd start one up.

Top 10 Point Guards
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Steve Nash
4.Baron Davis
5.Gilbert Arenas
6.Chauncey Billups
7.Jason Kidd
8.Andre Miller
9.Tony Parker
10.Raymond Felton

Top 10 Shooting Guards
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwayne Wade
3.Allen Iverson
4.Manu Ginobili
5.Michael Redd
6.Joe Johnson
7.Kevin Martin
8.Vince Carter
9.Jason Richardson
10.Brandon Roy

Top 10 Small Forwards
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Tracy McGrady
5.Caron Butler
6.Andre Iguodala
7.Gerald Wallace
8.Richard Jefferson
9.Josh Smith
10.Shawn Marion

Top 10 Power Forwards
1.Tim Duncan
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Carlos Boozer
5.Chris Bosh
6.Elton Brand
7.Pau Gasol
8.David West
9.Antwan Jamison
10.Zach Randolph

Top 10 Centers
1.Dwight Howard
2.Amare Stoudimire
3.Yao Ming
4.Al Jefferson
5.Chris Kaman
6.Andrew Bynum
7.Rasheed Wallace
8.Andrew Bogut
9.Marcus Camby
10.Brad Miller


ok, but:
brandon roy is better than 10 position 7 in my opinion
toni parker better than 9
jason kidd isn't top 10
eddy curry is top 10
calderon is top 10
okafor for zach in 10 PF position
and...
beasley and rose will be top 10 near

_Sn1P3r_
07-26-2008, 09:19 PM
Tony Parker should be ahead of Miller IMO. And I would replace Felton with Calderon.

JOSETHEALLSTAR
07-26-2008, 09:26 PM
ANd how is Carmello ahead of tmac

BADizzleBoY
07-26-2008, 09:28 PM
Overall I like it alot. I think that Al Jefferson is a Power Forward and Amare is a Power Forward, Z-Bo should not be top 10 Power Forward. I still like the list alot

amare plays center.

travesy3
07-26-2008, 09:36 PM
How was Bosh getting called overrated in one thread but the consensus can agree he is a top 5 PF in the NBA? Get your **** together xD

Vinny642
07-26-2008, 09:36 PM
Take Zach out and put in Emeka
Take out Brad Miller and Put Tyson Chandler over Bogut.
Switch Felton for Calderon

zamudio_jorge
07-26-2008, 10:50 PM
the ranking is based in how they make the team better and stats (2007-2008)

PG

1.- paul
2.- deron
3.- nash
4.- davis
5.- parker
6.- billups
7.- miller
8.- kidd
9.- calderon
10.- felton
(arenas not in the ranking because he only play 13 games shooting under 40% like kidd)

SG

1.- bryant ( i love lakers xD)
2.- iveron
3.- ginobili
4.- johnson
5.- tmac (thin im crazy just see the % in FG, FT and ·FG)
6.- roy
7.- allen
8.- carter
9.- wade (for talent he is a top 3 but a losing season hurt him)
10.- ellis
(redd another losing season,hamilton need better numbers)

SF

1.- james (i hate him)
2.- pierce (dam you are T.T)
3.- anthony
4.- butler
5.- turkoglu
6.- marion (before the trade suns are in the top 3 in west)
7.- j. howard
8.- r. jefferson
9.- s. jackson
10.- iguodala
(gay need win games, granger too)

PF

1.- garnett
2.- duncan
3.- nowitzki
4.- boozer
5.- bosh
6.- jamison
7.- gasol
8.- smith
9.- okafor
10.- west


C

1.- howard
2.- amare
3.- yao
4.- jefferson
5.- kaman
6.- camby
7.- chandler
8.- bogut
9.- bynum
10.- biedrins
(shaq healthy maybe in 6-10, jermaine same, dalembert could be 9-10 last year))

BigEric
07-27-2008, 03:03 AM
Take Zach out and put in Emeka
Take out Brad Miller and Put Tyson Chandler over Bogut.
Switch Felton for Calderon

The dude cries when he doesn't see a player on the list that isn't on his team. Does he have ANY offensive game at all, other than CP3's greatness? Give Chandler, Beno and we will see what he can do.

You can say whatever you want about Miller's defense, but it's really not pathetic if you watch some kings games, and he also runs offenses, while Chandler sits there and catches alley oops.

I didn't complain about Artest missing from the top 10, and he deserves it. I've sick of seeing posts about a missing player......WAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

SwaggaIke
07-27-2008, 03:14 AM
^I completely forgot about Artest and Turkoglu on my list.

ink
07-27-2008, 03:16 AM
1. Deron Williams
2. Chris Paul
3. Tony Parker
4. Baron Davis
5. Chauncey Billups
6. Steve Nash
7. Gilbert Arenas
8. Jason Kidd
9. Andre Miller
10. Jose Calderon

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Tracy McGrady
4. Allen Iverson
5. Manu Ginobili
6. Joe Johnson
7. Brandon Roy
8. Vince Carter
9. Monta Ellis
10. Kevin Martin

1. LeBron James
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Paul Pierce
4. Caron Butler
5. Richard Jefferson
6. Gerald Wallace
7. Andre Iguodala
8. Josh Smith
9. Shawn Marion
10. Luol Deng

1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Amare Stoudemire
4. Chris Bosh
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Elton Brand
7. Carlos Boozer
8. David West
9. Antwan Jamison
10. Al Jefferson

1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Marcus Camby
4. Shaquille O'Neal
5. Chris Kaman
6. Tyson Chandler
7. Rasheed Wallace
8. Andrew Bynum
9. Andrew Bogut
10. Brad Miller

Best list I've seen so far. But I'd put Chris Paul ahead of Deron, and Nash ahead of Davis.

Monta8Ellis
07-27-2008, 03:33 AM
monta ellis belongs in the 5th spot among sgs

Vinny642
07-27-2008, 03:48 AM
Best list I've seen so far. But I'd put Chris Paul ahead of Deron, and Nash ahead of Davis.

Nope Al Jefferson over West
Brand under Boozer
Artest over Jefferson, and everybody moves down.
Carter down to 10th and Martin 8th and Ellis 9th.
Kaman over Shaq.

Eric STFU man ur dumb. Miller's defense is worse then Chandlers offense. Al Jefferson and Amare aren't Centers so they go to the PF spots and then Tyson makes his way into the top 10.
Also how old is Brad Miller? Like 30+
How old is Tyson? 25-26?
Miller never had defense, Chandler can always improve his offense.

michaellui11
07-27-2008, 07:57 AM
Top 10 Point Guards
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Steve Nash
4.Baron Davis
5.Gilbert Arenas
6.Chauncey Billups
7.Jason Kidd
8.Andre Miller
9.Tony Parker
10.Jose Calderon

Top 10 Shooting Guards
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwayne Wade
3.Allen Iverson
4.Manu Ginobili
5.Michael Redd
6.Joe Johnson
7.Kevin Martin
8.Vince Carter
9.Brandon Roy
10.Jason Richardson

Top 10 Small Forwards
1.LeBron James
2.Paul Pierce
3.Tracy McGrady
4.Carmelo Anthony
5.Caron Butler
6.Andre Iguodala
7.Shawn Marion
8.Richard Jefferson
9.Josh Smith
10.Gerald Wallace

Top 10 Power Forwards
1.Tim Duncan
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Chris Bosh
5.Carlos Boozer
6.Elton Brand
7.Pau Gasol
8.David West
9.Antawn Jamison
10.LaMarcus Aldridge

Top 10 Centers
1.Dwight Howard
2.Amare Stoudamire
3.Yao Ming
4.Al Jefferson
5.Chris Kaman
6.Andrew Bynum
7.Rasheed Wallace
8.Andrew Bogut
9.Marcus Camby
10.Brad Miller

raptors_fanatic
07-27-2008, 12:43 PM
Top 10 Point Guards
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Steve Nash
4.Baron Davis
5.Gilbert Arenas
6.Chauncey Billups
7.Jason Kidd
8.Andre Miller
9.Tony Parker
10.Jose Calderon

Top 10 Shooting Guards
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwayne Wade
3.Allen Iverson
4.Manu Ginobili
5.Michael Redd
6.Joe Johnson
7.Kevin Martin
8.Vince Carter
9.Brandon Roy
10.Jason Richardson

Top 10 Small Forwards
1.LeBron James
2.Paul Pierce
3.Tracy McGrady
4.Carmelo Anthony
5.Caron Butler
6.Andre Iguodala
7.Shawn Marion
8.Richard Jefferson
9.Josh Smith
10.Gerald Wallace

Top 10 Power Forwards
1.Tim Duncan
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Chris Bosh
5.Carlos Boozer
6.Elton Brand
7.Pau Gasol
8.David West
9.Antawn Jamison
10.LaMarcus Aldridge

Top 10 Centers
1.Dwight Howard
2.Amare Stoudamire
3.Yao Ming
4.Al Jefferson
5.Chris Kaman
6.Andrew Bynum
7.Rasheed Wallace
8.Andrew Bogut
9.Marcus Camby
10.Brad Miller

^^^
1--PG) Calderon is better than miller, and even though i dun like tony parker...i think he should be higher than that

2--SG) the sg's 6-10 can be different (sine t-macs not in) : Brandon Roy, Vince Carter, Jason Richardson,Kevin Martin

3--SF)Josh Smith>RJ

4--PF) i guess nothing wrong w/ it....i still think bosh is a better PF than Dirk, sum pple might say boozer can be in there...iunno, maybe brand

5--C)put Kaman&Bynum ahead of jefferson....take out miller and add Tyson....hey who knws, myabe if J.O is healthy he can come back in there...*Raptor Fanatic* =P

Ragun
07-27-2008, 01:12 PM
where is calderon? u think boozer is better than bosh? I would also rather have Bosh then Nowitzki and im not being a homer.

Cavs_Fan24
07-27-2008, 01:18 PM
My list :)

Point Guards:

1. Chris Paul
2. Deron Williams
3. Baron Davis
4. Steve Nash
5. Gilbert Arenas
6. Tony Parker
7. Jason Kidd (too good all-around)
8. Andre Miller (more consistent so, had to put him ahead of Chauncey)
9. Chauncey Billups (couldn't decide between him, Miller, and Kidd)
10. Jose Calderon

Shooting Guards:

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwayne Wade
3. A.I. (if McGrady's considered a SG, he's #3 everyone else moves down 1)
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Michael Redd
6. Joe Johnson
7. Ray Allen
8. Vince Carter
9. Brandan Roy
10. Monta Ellis (even though he's gonna start playin PG)

Small Forwards:

1. LeBron James
2. Paul Pierce
3. T-Mac (if he's considered a SG everyone moves up 1, Josh Howard or Rudy Gay #10)
4. Carmelo Anthony
5. Caron Butler
6. Andre Iguodala
7. Gerald Wallace
8. Richard Jefferson
9. Josh Smith
10. Shawn Marion

Power Forwards:

1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan (dont comment with Duncan being 2, i just think KG is better:))
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Chris Bosh
5. Antawn Jamison (if Al Jefferson s considered a PF, he goes #5, everyone moves down 1)
6. Carlos Boozer
7. Elton Brand
8. David West
9. Pau Gasol
10. LaMarcus Aldridge

Centers:

1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Amare Stoudemire
4. Al Jefferson (if he's considered a PF, everyone moves up, Bynum or Jermaine O'Neal is #10)
5. Zydrunas Ilgauskas (cant believe he wasn't mentioned)
6. Chris Kaman
7. Rasheed Wallace
8. Shaquille O'Neal
9. Marcus Camby
10. Tyson Chandler

Hawkeye15
07-27-2008, 01:43 PM
i would say so, maybe even above jefferson if you want to talk raw talent

People seem to forget that Al Jefferson is only 23, and he is already a 21-11 guy. Bynum is not as good as him, even potential wise. Sorry Laker fans. I would take Al Jefferson any day of the week over Bynum.

BigEric
07-27-2008, 01:58 PM
Nope Al Jefferson over West
Brand under Boozer
Artest over Jefferson, and everybody moves down.
Carter down to 10th and Martin 8th and Ellis 9th.
Kaman over Shaq.

Eric STFU man ur dumb. Miller's defense is worse then Chandlers offense. Al Jefferson and Amare aren't Centers so they go to the PF spots and then Tyson makes his way into the top 10.
Also how old is Brad Miller? Like 30+
How old is Tyson? 25-26?
Miller never had defense, Chandler can always improve his offense.

I'm dumb because I have an opinion? Chandler can always improve his offense? Is that a joke, dude do you even watch basketball. I usually don't go by stats but since you think Chandler's defense is so much better, take a look at the BPG. Chandler 1.1 ..... Miller 1.0 wow that is a huge difference!

CardinalRed4eva
07-27-2008, 03:02 PM
Emeka Okafor doesn't make the PF list but Zach Randolph does?
Yea your right, my bad...forgot about him.

Monta Ellis and Marbury are better than Raymond Felton.
You can make a case for Ellis, but Marbury? :laugh2:

Well considering t mac plays 2 as a natural position so why is he under the 3 spot this list was f u c k e d since jump street

Um what...:crazy:

CardinalRed4eva
07-27-2008, 03:10 PM
ARE U FUKIN JOKIN.......RAYMOND FELTON 10th..........WOW..........JOSE CALDERON SHUD BE IN THE TOP 10
First of all, chill out. Second of all, I think most of you are underrating Felton a lot, he had a great year last year and became the leader of the Bobcat team.

How are you going to put Dwayne Wade above Allen Iverson when he only played 51 games last year on the worst team... Don't get me wrong, Dwayne Wade is great, but I don't think you are being very current
If I weren't being "current" Wade would NOT be ahead of A.I. on my list.

ok, but:
brandon roy is better than 10 position 7 in my opinion
toni parker better than 9
jason kidd isn't top 10
eddy curry is top 10
calderon is top 10
okafor for zach in 10 PF position
and...
beasley and rose will be top 10 near
B.Roy? you can make an argument, but I'd give him another year to develop
Parker, yeah one of the few mistakes I made while making the list in such a short time
Kidd is top 10 still, IMO.
Eddy Curry is garbage, I don't care what anyone says, gimme a break.
Calderon is a rising star, who will eventually jump in the top 10, but not yet.
And yes Okafor for Zach.

ANd how is Carmello ahead of tmac

Carmelo has has consecutive better seasons than T-Mac.

Dirty Dirk41
07-27-2008, 06:27 PM
Top 10 Point Guards
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Steve Nash
4.Gilbert Arenas
5.Chauncey Billups
6.Baron Davis
7.Jason Kidd
8.Tony Parker
9.Ander Miller
10.Rajon Rondo

Top 10 Shooting Guards
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwayne Wade
3.Allen Iverson
4.Tracy McGrady
5.Manu Ginobili
6.Joe Johnson
7.Michael Redd
8.Vince Carter
9.Jason Richardson
10.Kevin Martin

Top 10 Small Forwards
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Shawn Marion
5.Rashard Lewis
6.Josh Smith
7.Caron Butler
8.Richard Jefferson
9.Gerald Wallace
10.Tayshaun Prince

Top 10 Power Forwards
1.Tim Duncan
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Amare Stoudimire
4.Dirk Nowitzski
5.Elton Brand
6.Carlos Boozer
7.Al Jefferson
8.Chris Bosh
9.David West
10.Emeka Okafor

Top 10 Centers
1.Yao Ming
2.Dwight Howard
3.Marcus Camby
4.T.Chandler
5.Pau Gasol
6.Chris Kaman
7.Shaquille O'Neal
8.Andrew Bogut
9.Andrew Bynum
10.Brad Miller

SC1211
07-27-2008, 06:37 PM
Centers:
1. Yao Ming
2. Dwight Howard

RAPS424
07-27-2008, 06:40 PM
How Does Calderon Not Make The List?? The Best Ast/turn Over Ratio In The League.. And Top 10 In All Shooting Catagories.. And Didnt Play As Many Minutes As Any Of Those Guys!!! Americans!!!lol..

Scheck
07-27-2008, 06:42 PM
Wizards have 3 players on here!

High Five!

Vinny642
07-27-2008, 07:55 PM
I'm dumb because I have an opinion? Chandler can always improve his offense? Is that a joke, dude do you even watch basketball. I usually don't go by stats but since you think Chandler's defense is so much better, take a look at the BPG. Chandler 1.1 ..... Miller 1.0 wow that is a huge difference!

Blocks arent the only part of defense, Miller don't got any post defense. Chandler doesn't do anything offensively becuase he is our numer 1, 2 or 3 starter. I like how he has a top the Field goal Percentage and scored 11+ points and is the best offensive rebounder and one of the top rebounders in the game and miller isn't even close. Hornets have a post game mid range shooting and 3 point shooting, chandler is that alley oop catcher/ dunker.
I watched more Hornets games then you did Kings this season.

Cavs_Fan24
07-28-2008, 12:14 PM
i dont get how Zydrunas Ilgauskas isnt a top 10 center??

SportsFan1988
07-28-2008, 12:17 PM
It's funny how almost everyone in this thread that is trying to make an argument is a fan of the team that the specific player is on. :laugh2:

SwaggaIke
07-28-2008, 03:33 PM
These lists aren't easy to make unless you're looking straight at a list of all NBA players. Some guys will be omitted by accident. I forgot about Artest, Hedo and Big Z on my list. **** happens. You remember players in your head and rank them accordingly.

SHONIE
07-28-2008, 03:48 PM
jose calderon should be in the PG section
Ray allen should be in the SG section

mariotubes
07-28-2008, 09:06 PM
lol at brad miller being a top 10 center

MiamiHeat
07-28-2008, 09:13 PM
SG

1.- bryant ( i love lakers xD)
2.- iveron
3.- ginobili
4.- johnson
5.- tmac (thin im crazy just see the % in FG, FT and ·FG)
6.- roy
7.- allen
8.- carter
9.- wade (for talent he is a top 3 but a losing season hurt him)
10.- ellis
(redd another losing season,hamilton need better numbers)



wade number 9? before ginobili, allen, carter?
okay buddy what you smoking:smoking:,
he is the number 2 SG, even when he was hurt last season he had good numbers

PPG
24.6
RPG
4.20
APG
6.9

cmellofan15
07-28-2008, 09:16 PM
Top 10 Small Forwards
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Tracy McGrady
5.Caron Butler
6.Andre Iguodala
7.Gerald Wallace
8.Richard Jefferson
9.Josh Smith
10.Shawn Marion

1.Lebron
2.Mello
3.Pierce
4.TMac aka Mac Sauce
5.Butler
6.Marion
7.Odom
8.Iggy
9.Shard
10.Josh Smith

chad78
07-28-2008, 09:23 PM
tell me how hedo or lewis dont make the list

cmellofan15
07-28-2008, 09:28 PM
tell me how hedo or lewis dont make the list

hedo? ill put lewis but not him

Kings Faithful
07-28-2008, 09:32 PM
Artest should be on that SF list somewhere

ash71506
07-28-2008, 09:39 PM
wheres matt carroll on that list or what about brevin knight at pg

ash71506
07-28-2008, 09:48 PM
no really though how is monta #10 or not on the sg list?
Monta Ellis 53.1% ,20.2 pts ,5 boards and 3.9 assists
brandon roy 45.5%,19.1,4.7 boards and 5.8 assists

Nugget153
07-29-2008, 12:10 AM
How is melo better than t mac what has he done how many scoring titles or first rounds has he been out of and he has a.i to score with him

QUESTION FOR THE GODS
Can someone who supports T-Mac poke fun at Carmelo for not making it past the first round??

If I remember correctly...(and I always do)
Melo has only been here since 2003...T-mac since...FOREVER?!?

I've said my due.

Good list at the start, Parker should be higher though..

knicks religion
07-29-2008, 12:25 AM
Monta Ellis and Marbury are better than Raymond Felton.

and thats cummin from a laker fan! stephon marbury!!!! he's up there, especially if we're talking talent beyond all criticisms of a good player like marbury.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
07-29-2008, 12:31 AM
Top 10 Point Guards
Chris Paul
Steve Nash
Gilbert Arenas
Baron Davis
Tony Parker
Chauncey Billups
Deron Williams
Jason Kidd
Andre Miller
Ray Felton

Top 10 Shooting Guards
Kobe Bryant
Dwayne Wade
Allen Iverson
Manu Ginobili
Michael Redd
Joe Johnson
Kevin Martin
Jason Richardson
Ray Allen
Brandon Roy

Top 10 Small Forwards
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Paul Pierce
Tracy McGrady
Josh Smith
Caron Butler
Ron Artest
Gerald Wallace
Richard Jefferson
Andre Iguodala

Top 10 Power Forwards
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki
Amare Stoudemire
Rasheed Wallace
Antwan Jamison
Chris Bosh
Elton Brand
Pau Gasol
David West
Carlos Boozer

Top 10 Centers
Yao
Dwight Howard
Al Jefferson
Chris Kaman
Andrew Bynum
Andrew Bogut
Marcus Camby
Memo Okur
Brad Miller

SportsFan1988
07-29-2008, 12:36 AM
I think it's safe to say that at this point in Rasheed Wallace' career that he is not better than the following- Chris Bosh, Carlos Boozer or Pau Gasol, am I right, or am I right? :D

J-N-M-ETS4LYF
07-29-2008, 03:28 PM
Top 10 Point Guards
Chris Paul
Steve Nash
Gilbert Arenas
Baron Davis
Tony Parker
Chauncey Billups
Deron Williams
Jason Kidd
Andre Miller
Ray Felton

Top 10 Shooting Guards
Kobe Bryant
Dwayne Wade
Allen Iverson
Manu Ginobili
Michael Redd
Joe Johnson
Kevin Martin
Jason Richardson
Ray Allen
Brandon Roy

Top 10 Small Forwards
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Paul Pierce
Tracy McGrady
Josh Smith
Caron Butler
Ron Artest
Gerald Wallace
Richard Jefferson
Andre Iguodala

Top 10 Power Forwards
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki
Amare Stoudemire
Rasheed Wallace
Antwan Jamison
Chris Bosh
Elton Brand
Pau Gasol
David West
Carlos Boozer

Top 10 Centers
Yao
Dwight Howard
Al Jefferson
Chris Kaman
Andrew Bynum
Andrew Bogut
Marcus Camby
Memo Okur
Brad Miller

Stop smoking how is carter not in ur top 10?

IversonIsKrazy
07-29-2008, 03:38 PM
d-wade over ai, u gotta b kiddin me. mo williams shud b #10 pg, not felton. Melo should b lower. Missing okafor one the pf list.

GRIMLOCK
07-29-2008, 04:01 PM
PG's
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Baron Davis

NBANumba1Fan
07-29-2008, 04:07 PM
dude im not even gonna try to say but im gonna have to but the center list is the most horrible list ive seen why would u even add bynum to 6 when rasheed wallace is already way better then him no really bunum should be 10 what kinda dumb center list was that??

GRIMLOCK
07-29-2008, 04:11 PM
PG's
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Baron Davis
Chauncey Billups
Steve Nash
Gibert Arenas
Tony Parker
Andre Miller
Jason Kidd
Devin Harris

SG's
Kobe Bryant
Tracy McGrady
Manu Ginobli
Allen Iverson
Dwayne Wade
Joe Johnson
Ray Allen
Michael Redd
Andre Iguodala
Brandon Roy

SF's
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Paul Pierce
Caron Butler
Josh Smith
Rashard Lewis
Ron Artest
Josh Howard
Kevin Durant
Shawn Marion

PF's
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Chris Bosh
Amare Stoudemire
Dirk Nowitzki
Pau Gasol
Carlos Boozer
Al Jefferson
David West
Emeka Okafor

C's
Yao Ming
Dwight Howard(Needs a 10-15 foot jumper, then he'll be #1)
Tyson Chandler
Rasheed Wallace
Marcus Camby
Shaq
Sam Dalembert
Andrew Bynum
Andrew Bogut
Chris Kaman

NBANumba1Fan
07-29-2008, 04:14 PM
dude im not even gonna try to say but im gonna have to but the center list is the most horrible list ive seen why would u even add bynum to 6 when rasheed wallace is already way better then him no really bunum should be 10 what kinda dumb center list was that??

ewing
07-29-2008, 04:20 PM
Where is Brad Lohouse and Lee Nailon????????????

Young_Josh
07-29-2008, 04:21 PM
SF's
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Paul Pierce
Caron Butler
Josh Smith:confused:
Rashard Lewis
Ron Artest
Josh Howard
Kevin Durant
Shawn Marion:confused:

Shawn Marion is better the josh Smith, kd, josh Howard, and maybe butler

GunFactor187
07-29-2008, 04:23 PM
I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, so I thought I'd start one up.

Top 10 Point Guards
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Steve Nash
4.Baron Davis
5.Gilbert Arenas
6.Chauncey Billups
7.Jason Kidd
8.Andre Miller
9.Tony Parker
10.Raymond Felton

Top 10 Shooting Guards
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwayne Wade
3.Allen Iverson
4.Manu Ginobili
5.Michael Redd
6.Joe Johnson
7.Kevin Martin
8.Vince Carter
9.Jason Richardson
10.Brandon Roy

Top 10 Small Forwards
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Tracy McGrady
5.Caron Butler
6.Andre Iguodala
7.Gerald Wallace
8.Richard Jefferson
9.Josh Smith
10.Shawn Marion

Top 10 Power Forwards
1.Tim Duncan
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Carlos Boozer
5.Chris Bosh
6.Elton Brand
7.Pau Gasol
8.David West
9.Antwan Jamison
10.Zach Randolph

Top 10 Centers
1.Dwight Howard
2.Amare Stoudimire
3.Yao Ming
4.Al Jefferson
5.Chris Kaman
6.Andrew Bynum
7.Rasheed Wallace
8.Andrew Bogut
9.Marcus Camby
10.Brad Miller

Are you serious????

Kings Faithful
07-29-2008, 04:24 PM
There is obviously to many good players to just choose ten of them. That is the problem here. Evertime someone fixes the list by saying "wheres Josh Smith? Wheres Ron Artest? Wheres Carter?" that means taking a player out of the top ten that another person considers top 10 in his position. There is no true top 10, its all opinion.

Young_Josh
07-29-2008, 04:26 PM
Vince is not top ten anymore

midwestmadman
07-29-2008, 04:43 PM
Ginobili #4 SG HAhahahahahahaaaa, thanks I needed that. Ahead of of Joe Johnson, Vince Carter, Micheal Redd, Brandon Roy, and Jason Richardson. The only one I'd have him over would be Kevin Martin. Richard Hamilton is better than Ginobili and Martin and he isn't even on the list.

midwestmadman
07-29-2008, 04:45 PM
I think it's safe to say that at this point in Rasheed Wallace' career that he is not better than the following- Chris Bosh, Carlos Boozer or Pau Gasol, am I right, or am I right? :D

You are right and I am even a fan of Sheed

titansmyarse
07-29-2008, 05:08 PM
amare plays center.


i was on my bicycle yesterday.... and i saw you at the corner of the street .. hopping onto the short yellow bus..

rriders9
07-29-2008, 05:37 PM
Ginobili #4 SG HAhahahahahahaaaa, thanks I needed that. Ahead of of Joe Johnson, Vince Carter, Micheal Redd, Brandon Roy, and Jason Richardson. The only one I'd have him over would be Kevin Martin. Richard Hamilton is better than Ginobili and Martin and he isn't even on the list.

He might be a little high but not as low as your saying, 6 or 7 probably

pwest6
07-29-2008, 06:30 PM
How is Andre Iguodala #6 when Danny Granger who isn't even on the list out scores and rebounds him?

juggla53
07-29-2008, 06:35 PM
Tony parker is much better then jason kidd at this point in their carears

PurpleJesus
07-30-2008, 12:27 AM
Al Jefferson's 22 pts and 12 rbs should for sure be in the op ten power forwards

TheNewbster
07-30-2008, 07:49 AM
I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, so I thought I'd start one up.

Top 10 Point Guards
1.Chris Paul
2.Deron Williams
3.Steve Nash
4.Baron Davis
5.Gilbert Arenas
6.Chauncey Billups
7.Jason Kidd
8.Andre Miller
9.Tony Parker
10.Raymond Felton

Top 10 Shooting Guards
1.Kobe Bryant
2.Dwayne Wade
3.Allen Iverson
4.Manu Ginobili
5.Michael Redd
6.Joe Johnson
7.Kevin Martin
8.Vince Carter
9.Jason Richardson
10.Brandon Roy

Top 10 Small Forwards
1.LeBron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Paul Pierce
4.Tracy McGrady
5.Caron Butler
6.Andre Iguodala
7.Gerald Wallace
8.Richard Jefferson
9.Josh Smith
10.Shawn Marion

Top 10 Power Forwards
1.Tim Duncan
2.Kevin Garnett
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Carlos Boozer
5.Chris Bosh
6.Elton Brand
7.Pau Gasol
8.David West
9.Antwan Jamison
10.Zach Randolph

Top 10 Centers
1.Dwight Howard
2.Amare Stoudimire
3.Yao Ming
4.Al Jefferson
5.Chris Kaman
6.Andrew Bynum
7.Rasheed Wallace
8.Andrew Bogut
9.Marcus Camby
10.Brad Miller

My only issues with this list is Brand at #6, but Boozer #4; Brand has a better all around game whether offensively or defensively. It's just that as a Clipper, his game was never as highly showcased as Boozer's was. Look at the contributions at either end of the court; 20/10 a night, and another 2 blocks.

Other than that, I think I wouldn't really have an issue with this list, cause a lot of these people at their ranks are switchable with either the person above them or below them; it would honestly be more of "tiers" with each position having its upper tiers, middle, and lower.

Covert
08-25-2008, 02:55 AM
I think Calderon is better than Felton.