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Raptors27
07-23-2008, 09:57 PM
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Raptors All-Time Draft

All Toronto Raptors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Raptors_all-time_roster)
Aside From Those 133 Players, You Will Be Permitted To Select O'Neal, Ukic, Adams And Jawai.

Draft Order: The Draft Will Have The Snake Format. (Can A Mod Please Sticky This Thread, Would Be Appreciated)

1. Travesy3
2. Da1nonly
3. conway429
4. raps424
5. Raptors27
6. ImOnFire12
7. marvILLous
8. varunpp
9. star
10. The Wise 1

11. The Wise 1
12. star
13. varunpp
14. marvILLous
15. ImOnFire12
16. Raptors27
17. raps424
18. Conway429
19. Da1nonly
20. travesy3

Etc.

I Will Keep The Draft Updated On This Thread. Also You Will Make Your Selections On This Thread.

Draft Selection:

1st Pick Overall: Hakeem Olajuwon
2nd Pick Overall: Chris Bosh
3rd Pick Overall: T-Mac
4th Pick Overall: Chauncey Billups
5th Pick Overall: Vince Carter
6th Pick Overall: Rafeal Araujo
7th Pick Overall: Marcus Camby
8th Pick Overall: Alvin Robertson
9th Pick Overall: Charles Oakley
10th Pick Overall: Damon Stoudamire

11th: Antonio Davis


Potential 1st Picks Overall:
Hakeem Olajuwon
Vince Carter
Tracy McGrady
Chauncey Billups
Chris Bosh
Marcus Camby
Alvin Robertson
Mike James..lol Jk

Make Your Selection Within The 12 Hour Time Limit, If You Do Not Make A Pick, I Will Decide You Pick. Please Try To Make Your Pick Fast, But I Understand If You Can't. It Will Be A 10 Round Draft Rather Than 12. Your Goal Is To Make The Best Team Possible. We Are Not Facturing In Injuries, Potential Will Be Factured In And It Is Based On A Player's Career, Not His Time As A Raptor. After The Draft Is Complete, I Will Post A Poll And People From The Raptors Forum Will Vote For The Best Overall Team. Enjoy :)

The Wise 1
07-23-2008, 10:35 PM
Im pulling the race card on this one. I see how it is :)

Raptors27
07-23-2008, 10:55 PM
Travesy3 You Are On The Clock..You have 18 hours to make a selection..(after the 1st overall pick, the time limit will be set to 12 hours. Please try not to use the entire time, make it as soon as possible. Thanks.

ink
07-24-2008, 12:44 AM
I'm going to sticky this to give it a boost. Then when it gets going, we'll unsticky it and you guys will keep it high in the forum because of constant posting. Good luck everyone!

conway429
07-24-2008, 12:58 AM
1. da1nonly - Hakeem Olajuwon
2. star - Chauncy Billups
3. The Wise 1 - Chris Bosh
4. marvILLous - Vince Carter
5. conway429 - Tracy McGrady
6. RAPS424 - Jermaine O'Neal
7. AgentViet - Mark Jackson
8. AgentViet - Kevin Willis
9. RAPS424 - Antonio Davis
10. conway429 - Marcus Camby
11. marvILLous - Charles Oakley
12. The Wise 1 - Alvin Robertson
13. star - Jalen Rose
14. da1nonly - Jose Calderon
15. da1nonly - T.J. Ford
16. star - Donyell Marshall
17. The Wise 1 - Doug Christie
18. marvILLous - Rod Strickland
19. conway429 - Charlie Villanueva
20. RAPS424 - Morris Peterson
21. AgentViet - Damon Stoudamire
22. AgentViet - Anthony Parker
23. RAPS424 - Alvin Williams
24. conway429 - Muggsy Bogues
25. marvILLous - Dell Curry
26. The Wise 1 - Walt Williams
27. star - Herb Williams
28. da1nonly - Mike James
29. da1nonly - Jamario Moon
30. star - Corliss Williamson
31. The Wise 1 - Keon Clark
32. marvILLous - Benoit Benjamin
33. conway429 - John Long
34. RAPS424 - Jason Kapono
35. AgentViet - Jerome Williams
36. AgentViet - Lamond Murray
37. RAPS424 - Andrea Bargnani
38. conway429 - Rafer Alston
39. marvILLous - Dee Brown
40. The Wise 1 - Popeye Jones
41. star - Eric Williams
42. da1nonly - Willie Anderson
43. da1nonly - Jorge Garbajosa
44. star - Tracy Murray
45. The Wise 1 - Lindsey Hunter
46. marvILLous - Gary Trent
47. conway429 - Voshon Lenard
48. RAPS424 - Carlos Delfino
49. AgentViet - Oliver Miller
50. AgentViet - John Wallace
51. RAPS424 - John Salley
52. conway429 - Chris Childs
53. marvILLous - Sharone Wright
54. The Wise 1 - Michael Williams
55. star - Jannero Pargo
56. da1nonly - Rasho Nesterovic
57. da1nonly - Kris Humphries
58. star - Primoz Brezec
59. The Wise 1 - Tyrone Corbin
60. marvILLous - Darrick Martin
61. conway429 - Tony Massenburg
62. RAPS424 - Juan Dixon
63. AgentViet - Dion Glover
64. AgentViet - Matt Bonner
65. RAPS424 - Carlos Arroyo
66. conway429 - Joey Graham
67. marvILLous - Ed Pinckney
68. The Wise 1 - Aaron Williams
69. star - Haywoode Workman
70. da1nonly - Roko Ukic

Raptors27
07-24-2008, 01:10 AM
I'm going to sticky this to give it a boost. Then when it gets going, we'll unsticky it and you guys will keep it high in the forum because of constant posting. Good luck everyone!

Thanks Ink.

Raptors27
07-24-2008, 01:10 AM
OK so just to double check... we're not counting injuries as a factor, we're considering potential, and we're talking about the player's careers, not just their Raptor success.

Correct, sound good to you?

Raptors27
07-24-2008, 01:16 AM
travesy3, 16 hours left..

conway429
07-24-2008, 01:16 AM
I like it. Let's get to work.

Raptors27
07-24-2008, 01:20 AM
Anyways, the draft is pretty much only going to start tomarrow so im gonna leave, its 2 am here. lol

Raptors27
07-24-2008, 08:14 AM
Travesy3 9 hours left..

da1nonly
07-24-2008, 10:49 AM
so can i trade down a couple spots? hehehe

eg. i figure if you pick in the top 5... you'll always get one of the main superstars... and at 15th you'll still get a good pick... who wants to trade up? ;)

torontosports10
07-24-2008, 11:19 AM
A good idea is to Pm who is on the clock also. That way they know. So whoever picks should have to PM whoever picks after them. That what we do in the Re-Drafts.

travesy3
07-24-2008, 11:44 AM
Hakeem every team needs a HOF Center LOL

Edit put everyone's AIM up there so you can get at them.

traves1234

da1nonly
07-24-2008, 12:23 PM
tough choice... mcgrady or bosh...

chris bosh... based on his career so far and that he hasn't reached his full potential yet... he's just hitting the prime of his career in my opinion... mcgrady has too many back injury issues...

i'll PM the next guy...

can we make trades after? hehehe

da1nonly

Raptors27
07-24-2008, 12:39 PM
We might be able to make trades, i think i had did it last time.

Raptors27
07-24-2008, 12:40 PM
Conway429 is on the clock..

RAPS424
07-24-2008, 02:03 PM
Come On Conway.. I Got My Pick Lined Up

conway429
07-24-2008, 02:22 PM
Trying to decide which whiney cousin I want.
Tmac.

RAPS424
07-24-2008, 02:49 PM
Chauncy Billups..(playoff Mvp)

Raptors27
07-24-2008, 02:59 PM
I select Vince Carter

Raptors27
07-24-2008, 03:00 PM
ImOnFire12 is on the clock..

RAPS424
07-24-2008, 06:14 PM
3 Hours.. Come On Im Onfire...get On The Ball

Raptors27
07-24-2008, 09:43 PM
ImOnFire12 is on the clock..6 hours left

da1nonly
07-24-2008, 10:37 PM
u guys doing this on the weekend too? or can we have a pause in the draft during the weekend for some family and friends time?

The Wise 1
07-24-2008, 10:50 PM
good question. Check your inbox da1nonly

Raptors27
07-24-2008, 10:51 PM
Pause for the weekend. It would work good for me, im not going to around. So is it ok with you guys?

Raptors27
07-24-2008, 10:59 PM
After Round One The Draft Will Pause And Continue Monday. I Will Post When It Unpauses.

RAPS424
07-25-2008, 03:42 PM
Um..not To Be An ***..but Isnt The Next Guys Time Up??

Raptors27
07-25-2008, 04:44 PM
yeah it is.. Who should we give him?

RAPS424
07-25-2008, 05:05 PM
Well Are We Tryingto Be Fair.. And Pick Who We Think He Might Ahve Picked Anyways?

star
07-25-2008, 07:05 PM
naaa forget that

give him hoffa

star
07-25-2008, 07:05 PM
or yogi

star
07-25-2008, 07:06 PM
if he didnt clog this up wed probably be into round 3 by now

star
07-25-2008, 07:06 PM
i say for his picks we try to make the WORST raps team of all time

Raptors27
07-25-2008, 07:26 PM
alright he has just drafted Hoffa. nah thats kinda mean. We will give him Camby. unless the next guy wanted Camby.

Raptors27
07-25-2008, 07:27 PM
MarvILLous is on the clock..

RAPS424
07-25-2008, 08:22 PM
Now That I Think Of It.. He Shouldnt Get A Good Pick... He Said He Wanted To Do This.. And He's Holding Things Up.. What If He Wins Based On Picks We Make For Him

Raptors27
07-25-2008, 08:57 PM
Draft Is Paused Until Monday

star
07-25-2008, 11:30 PM
honestly its BS ... if you give him camby thats garbage ... either take his stupid *** out or draft him players no one else wants ... like holly **** we all know what we signed up for just cause hes an inconsiderate bastard doesnt mean we have to put up with it .... just take him out .... friggin dip****

marvILLous
07-26-2008, 01:12 AM
I want Camby!

RAPS424
07-26-2008, 07:29 PM
If Marvillous Wants Camby..the Next Guy ...canpick If He Logs On This Weekend.. I Mean..if Its Ur Turn..and Ur Onthis Weekend...cant Hurt To Make Ur Pick!!! And Yes.. That Other Guy Definetly Gets Hoffa...

RAPS424
07-26-2008, 07:30 PM
I Say Varnuup Is On Deck!!

conway429
07-26-2008, 11:25 PM
It seems like there's only like 5 of us paying attention to this.
I say if you miss you're first round pick, then tough luck and you're out.
That'll leave less teams to spread the talent around to.

varunpp
07-27-2008, 01:45 AM
hmm camby taken, so is hoffa...toughie from here? mike james...haha naww...i guess i'll take alvin robertson

The Wise 1
07-27-2008, 02:54 AM
It seems like there's only like 5 of us paying attention to this.
I say if you miss you're first round pick, then tough luck and you're out.
That'll leave less teams to spread the talent around to.

Just wanted to be known as a guy that is paying attention to this :)

marvILLous
07-27-2008, 09:41 AM
so I get camby??

RAPS424
07-27-2008, 12:18 PM
Did Varunpp Take Alvin Robertson?.. Is Thatu R Pick Dude?

RAPS424
07-27-2008, 12:19 PM
And..i Guess I Cant Just Determine Taht Yes U Doget Camby.. But I Think U Should Get Camby.. That Guy Still Hasnt Made A Post.. So Does Anyone Disagree That Marv Should Get Camby..and If Varunpp Takes Avlin Robertson..then Next Guyis Up I Guess.. Anyone Disagree?

RAPS424
07-27-2008, 12:30 PM
http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/ulmer_bargnani_072508.html .... JUST A LINK ABOUT BARGS OFF SEASON TRAINING.. THOUGHT IT MITE BE INTERESTING.. EVEN TO (THE WISE 1) THE BIGGEST BARGS HATER OF THEM ALL)

Raptors27
07-27-2008, 10:12 PM
Draft Selection:

1st Pick Overall: Hakeem Olajuwon
2nd Pick Overall: Chris Bosh
3rd Pick Overall: T-Mac
4th Pick Overall: Chauncey Billups
5th Pick Overall: Vince Carter
6th Pick Overall: Rafeal Araujo
7th Pick Overall: Marcus Camby
8th Pick Overall: Alvin Robertson

There we go..Star is on the clock

marvILLous
07-27-2008, 10:31 PM
lmao he actually got hoffa

next give him milt palacio hahahah

star
07-27-2008, 10:52 PM
I want Oakley

The Wise 1
07-28-2008, 07:06 AM
I guess I'll take Damon Stoudamire and Antonio Davis.

da1nonly
07-28-2008, 11:46 AM
Hey Wise1...

before you select your picks ... let me know if you still want to make that trade with me...

if the player i want is still available at your pick... i might be open to the idea of 2 & 19 for 10 & 11?

RAPS424
07-28-2008, 01:34 PM
I Think Wise One Already Made His Picks

Raptors27
07-28-2008, 03:19 PM
Star then Varunpp

RAPS424
07-28-2008, 06:53 PM
Jesus... .

conway429
07-28-2008, 07:05 PM
hah it's taken 5 days to do 1 round.... and I feel like it's just going to slow down as people get less interested in Jelani McCoy-type picks.

The Wise 1
07-28-2008, 07:57 PM
hah it's taken 5 days to do 1 round.... and I feel like it's just going to slow down as people get less interested in Jelani McCoy-type picks.

+1

It will also slow down when some people realize that they have no shot at winning. Whoever got Hakeem is pretty much the champ as long as he doesnt do anything stupid.

RAPS424
07-28-2008, 08:02 PM
Star Is On Here All The Time.. Tehn When It Is Turn He's Nowhere To Be Found!!
Been 5-6 Hours Hasnt It? Cant We Move On?

RAPS424
07-28-2008, 08:10 PM
so... star picks..reggie slater?

RAPS424
07-28-2008, 08:19 PM
maybe we should leave our cell numbs.. and the u txt the next guy when its his go...

marvILLous
07-28-2008, 08:32 PM
i'm ready to make my pick!

da1nonly
07-28-2008, 08:45 PM
i want to shake things up... this is taking long and want something interesting to happen... who wants to trade their next pick 2 picks for my next 2 picks...

i'm looking at
star 12 and 29,
varunpp 13 and 28
marvILLous 14 and 27

for my picks 19 and 22 (almost back to back)

hey... do i have to stay up all night for this? cuz when I call it a night I won't be checking it again till the next morning?

here's an idea... why doesn't everyone at least submit their top 10 list to the moderator of this draft? and he can choose from your list if you don't think you will be able to make your pick within a certain time frame...

RAPS424
07-28-2008, 09:25 PM
Coz Then He Might Pick Off My List..( Someone He Didnt Think Of)

star
07-28-2008, 09:32 PM
yo i picked

i selected oakley

check back on page 3 or 4

star
07-28-2008, 09:33 PM
do i have to pick it somewhere or just post my pick?

star
07-28-2008, 09:34 PM
oh my bad ..... i didnt realize i was up AGAIN!

sorry peoples

i take

Jermaine O-Neel (if this is allowed)

conway429
07-28-2008, 10:48 PM
I'm kinda surprised JO took this long.

13. varunpp
14. marvILLous
15. ImOnFire12
16. Raptors27
17. raps424
18. Conway429
19. Da1nonly
20. travesy3

The Wise 1
07-28-2008, 11:15 PM
oh my bad ..... i didnt realize i was up AGAIN!

sorry peoples

i take

Jermaine O-Neel (if this is allowed)

**** I completely forgot about him. I was only looking at the wikipedia thing.

marvILLous
07-29-2008, 12:01 AM
aww man i was hoping he would slip to me. JO + Camby is illll

star
07-29-2008, 12:16 AM
i think JO + Oakley is the sickest front court so far ;)

RAPS424
07-29-2008, 10:29 AM
Its Been Over 10 Hours Since The Last Guy Made His Pick...how Long Do We Have B4 U Lose Ur Turn?

RAPS424
07-29-2008, 03:02 PM
seriously..when is this guys time up?

da1nonly
07-29-2008, 03:51 PM
wow this is long

marvILLous
07-29-2008, 03:55 PM
da1only, i might be interested in the picks swaps. 14, 27 for 19, 22

when its my turn ill tell you if i'm down for the trade..

if ur still interested

da1nonly
07-29-2008, 06:20 PM
da1only, i might be interested in the picks swaps. 14, 27 for 19, 22

when its my turn ill tell you if i'm down for the trade..

if ur still interested

sounds good!!! hopefully i'll still be awake by that time... this draft is dragging sooooooo slowly... by the time it gets to you it will probably be the weekend and it will be time for us to pause again... :sleep:

RAPS424
07-29-2008, 06:43 PM
Does Anyone Mind If I Take Over This Thing.. I Say Varuunp.or Whatever His Name Is Misses His Turn And We Move On To The
Next.. He Can Have Reggie Slater... Next!!!

varunpp
07-29-2008, 07:29 PM
I"ll take Kevin Willis, bah i thought of Oneal grrr...and was excited for a second.

marvILLous
07-29-2008, 11:25 PM
sounds good!!! hopefully i'll still be awake by that time... this draft is dragging sooooooo slowly... by the time it gets to you it will probably be the weekend and it will be time for us to pause again... :sleep:

wowwwwwwwww i wanted kevin willis!! lol

it's all good. i guess now i willl do up that trade , #14 and 27 for #19 and 22

so its da1nonly's pick now.

da1nonly
07-30-2008, 07:46 AM
damn i was hoping oneal would have fallen.. which is why i wanted the 12th pick and now willis is gone ... hahaha...

oh well... i need a floor general... i think the jose has the potential to be the best point guard to ever actually play for the raptors....

he's gonna blow up this year.

i pick jose calderon... the poor man's nash...

RAPS424
07-30-2008, 08:48 PM
Ok..im Out.. Someone Can Have Chauncey Billups.. This Is Ridiculous!! Im Out

da1nonly
07-30-2008, 10:16 PM
i'll take him

conway429
07-30-2008, 10:48 PM
I think we need to start again... take like 5 people who we know are paying attention, and get this done in a day or 2.

star
07-30-2008, 11:04 PM
im down

marvILLous
07-30-2008, 11:37 PM
yeah lets just do this with 5 ppl. yall know ive been here waiting to make my picks you kno so count me in

RAPS424
07-30-2008, 11:51 PM
Im In If We Do That.. But Waiting For Days For 1 Guy To Make A Pick.. I Mean Whats The Cut Off? When Does He Lose His Turn?..im Down For A Re-start With 5 Guys..

star
07-30-2008, 11:53 PM
look ... people work during the day thats understood .... but from 7 - 11 people should be on here making picks

conway429
07-31-2008, 12:19 AM
Looking back it seems like these 7 people have been the most active in paying attention to this...

conway429 (holla)
RAPS424
Raptors27
marvILLous
star
The Wise 1
da1nonly

So should we make a new thread with us 7... I feel like we'll all do it pretty quickly. is it worth it to start again to cut out 3 people?

da1nonly
07-31-2008, 08:18 AM
i'm cool with cutting it down to 5-7 people... at least the talent won't be spread as thin...

now my only issue is that the long weekend is coming up and it's already thursday...

i'm heading out for the long weekend starting friday... i figure most of you would have plans... so can we restart this draft when we all get back... i've been active on this thread since the beginning and thought we'd be finish already... i dont want to lose my spot...

since it's a new draft... i'd be ok with shaking up the ping pong balls again for the draft order...

Raptors27
07-31-2008, 08:28 AM
If you guys are fine with restarting and cutting it down, thats no problem. I think it will be better, just use the people who pay attention.

The Wise 1
07-31-2008, 10:30 AM
Pays attention :)

da1nonly
07-31-2008, 10:43 AM
so we starting now or after the long weekend?

RAPS424
07-31-2008, 11:11 AM
Im Definetly One Of The Ones Paying Attention!!

conway429
07-31-2008, 02:48 PM
This is Raptors27's idea, so it's all up to him when we re-start.
But I think we should go with the 7 guys who I mentioned in my post on the last page. The 3 I left out still haven't posted a complaint about being left out, so I assume they don't mind, or haven't bothered to check on the thread to see.
I'm ready to re-start now.

conway429
07-31-2008, 02:49 PM
conway429
Raptors27
RAPS424
da1nonly
marvILLous
star
The Wise 1

... are the one's paying attention, from what I can tell.

Raptors27
08-02-2008, 11:59 AM
I actually cant do the draft my internet has been messing up and can only get it fixed thursday. If anyone would like to take control its up to them.

conway429
08-02-2008, 12:40 PM
bah, I'll do it. Is everyone stil interested, or is this done?

The Wise 1
08-02-2008, 05:59 PM
bah, I'll do it. Is everyone stil interested, or is this done?

Cant hurt to do it. Its not like there is anything else to talk about.




conway429
Raptors27
RAPS424
da1nonly
marvILLous
star
The Wise 1

... are the one's paying attention, from what I can tell.

Just switch that order around and lets get it started :)

marvILLous
08-02-2008, 06:27 PM
yup

conway429
08-02-2008, 08:39 PM
da1nonly
star
The Wise 1
marvILLous
conway429
RAPS424

I used a dice (or di) and thats the new draft order....
I don't know if Raptors27 is gonna be in this, so we'll give him until the end of the first round to post if he's interested, at which point he can have the last pick.
Should I make a new thread, or just continue here?.... either way, da1nonly, you're on the clock...

AgentViet
08-02-2008, 08:43 PM
I'd be interested in doing this if there's any spots open...

conway429
08-02-2008, 08:49 PM
hahah... maybe too late man.... unless you dont mind taking the last pick.
or, if someone doesnt pay attention in the first round, you can take their spot.
we tried this before and had a problem with people not checking up on it often enough, and after one week we were just wrapping up the first round.
so if youre in this, make sure youre checking up on it regularly....... or you will receive a strongly worded message, and harsh criticism from your peers.

conway429
08-02-2008, 09:01 PM
anyone who takes 24 hours for their first round pick is out.
no swapping of picks, as it'll confuse things.
there will be a brief period for trading, if necessary afterwards.
if you're going to miss a day or 2, then PM me you're "wishlist".
i.e. if you're 2 picks away, then message me youre top 3 picks of whats left, to ensure you get a player you want.

AgentViet
08-02-2008, 11:53 PM
I wouldn't mind the last pick, activeness wouldn't be a problem for me. I'm in all 4 NBA Games currently running on this site.

RAPS424
08-03-2008, 02:45 PM
6th Pick?iwent Form 4th To 6th.. .... Sucks..

RAPS424
08-03-2008, 02:51 PM
Which Day Does It Start? Tues? Or Monday?

RAPS424
08-03-2008, 03:01 PM
Oh..and ... How Do I Get A Pic On Here!!!??

da1nonly
08-03-2008, 06:22 PM
I'm still on holiday but if u need a pick from me now... I want hakeem... If not ... I'll pick on monday...
Anyone want to trade? I'm targeting 4,5,6 ...my first 2 picks for your 2 first picks...

star
08-03-2008, 06:34 PM
I'm still on holiday but if u need a pick from me now... I want hakeem... If not ... I'll pick on monday...
Anyone want to trade? I'm targeting 4,5,6 ...my first 2 picks for your 2 first picks...

ill trade with you ....

conway429
08-03-2008, 08:38 PM
I dont really wanna do trades, cause people get confused of when who's going and whatnot, and it takes up time.... i'd rather do trades afterwards if people really want, theres not really any difference....
but.... i dont care, its up to you guys...
things are going slowly again.....

conway429
08-03-2008, 08:51 PM
I'm still on holiday but if u need a pick from me now... I want hakeem... If not ... I'll pick on monday...

Hakeem's the obvious #1 pick...

da1nonly
star
The Wise 1
marvILLous
conway429
RAPS42

I'd like to continue with star....

da1nonly
08-03-2008, 08:51 PM
it's the long weekend... Should pickup on monday. Trades just make it interesting... I'm ok with whatever u guys decide...

conway429
08-03-2008, 09:15 PM
k well, you guys can figure out if you want to do the trades or whatever....
as of now, hakeem's your pick... star has until 6:30 tomorrow night (monday) to make pick #2, or finalize the trade. (since star is #2, I dont think da1nonly is interested in a trade...)
so I'm gonna assume da1nonly has Hakeem.....
lets try to hurry up guys

star
08-04-2008, 12:48 AM
fine so no trades ...


ill take billups

conway429
08-04-2008, 01:26 AM
1. Hakeem Olajuwon - da1nonly
2. Chauncey Billups - star
3. The Wise 1
4. marvILLous
5. conway429
6. RAPS424

good work boys, we're making progress...

RAPS424
08-04-2008, 12:26 PM
Ok Wise One.... Lets Get It Going Here!!

The Wise 1
08-04-2008, 02:38 PM
I just wanted to let you people know that i'm against the potential thing here. I was going to say it sooner except that I forgot. I dont think we should be basing our picks on potential, since we have no clue how they are going to turn out. It's not to late to change the rules to his best season only, since the 1st 2 picks were taken for there best seasons. As it stands now the draft is based on there best season and or potential correct? I think it should be what have you done for me already.

Anyways with that out of the way I will select Chris Bosh if the rules stand or Vince Carter if the "Potential" part is taken off.

conway429
08-04-2008, 04:27 PM
Potential was only going to be considered....
an example would be like Jose Calderon... who should be considered a pretty good PG, however, he's never been a full-time starter.
I just think that while other people are voting when this is all said and done, they're going to consider Jose as a stronger PG than his NBA career has resulted in.
People are always going to consider potential... no matter what our "rules" are, Andrea Bargnani is probably going to be considered a superior pick to someone like Lamond Murray, who has had a far better career.... a player like Roko Ukic should have some value, although his "what have you done for me so far" numbers read 0/0/0.
I dont really care, just put a team together, it's up to the individual voters to deem which team is the best.

conway429
08-04-2008, 04:29 PM
.... I think Bosh will be considered a slightly better pick....

1. Hakeem Olajuwon - da1nonly
2. Chauncey Billups - star
3. Chris Bosh - The Wise 1
4. marvILLous
5. conway429
6. RAPS424

Cool?

marvILLous
08-04-2008, 04:57 PM
Im going to take Vince Carter

conway429
08-04-2008, 05:05 PM
I'll take T-Mac...

1. Hakeem Olajuwon - da1nonly
2. Chauncey Billups - star
3. Chris Bosh - The Wise 1
4. Vince Carter - marvILLous
5. Tracy McGrady - conway429
6. RAPS424

After RAPS424, we'll wait 12 hours for either AgentViet or Raptors27 to get involved (and make 2 picks), whoever gets here first, only one of them. If 12 hours goes by, then we'll just roll with 6 of us, and RAPS424 will pick again, and we'll snake to round 2.

AgentViet
08-04-2008, 06:29 PM
I'll be ready to pick.

conway429
08-04-2008, 06:50 PM
Good stuff.
Remember to pick 2 guys after RAPS424.

1. Hakeem Olajuwon - da1nonly
2. Chauncey Billups - star
3. Chris Bosh - The Wise 1
4. Vince Carter - marvILLous
5. Tracy McGrady - conway429
6. RAPS424
7. AgentViet
8. AgentViet
9. RAPS424
10. conway429
11. marvILLous
12. The Wise 1
13. star
14. da1nonly

RAPS424
08-04-2008, 06:58 PM
I'll Take Jermain O'neal

AgentViet
08-04-2008, 07:06 PM
I'll take Mark Jackson and Kevin Willis.

RAPS424
08-04-2008, 07:09 PM
...ok....antonio Davis!..now Thats A Sick Front Court!!!

star
08-04-2008, 09:14 PM
1. Hakeem Olajuwon - da1nonly
2. Chauncey Billups - star
3. Chris Bosh - The Wise 1
4. Vince Carter - marvILLous
5. Tracy McGrady - conway429
6. Jermaine O'neil - RAPS424
7. Mark Jackson - AgentViet
8. Kevin Willis - AgentViet
9. Antonio Davis - RAPS424
10. conway429
11. marvILLous
12. The Wise 1
13. star
14. da1nonly

star
08-04-2008, 09:15 PM
picking second is ***

marvILLous
08-04-2008, 10:13 PM
man, i was hoping for mark jackson to slip to me.

mark jackson and vince carter =)

lobs all DAY!

conway429
08-05-2008, 03:56 AM
I'll take Camby.

marvILLous
08-05-2008, 09:19 AM
Charles Oakley

da1nonly
08-05-2008, 11:22 AM
damn i was waiting on oakley

star
08-05-2008, 12:22 PM
damn i was waiting on oakley

me too bredran

in the last draft i had oakley and JO .... i think i got screwed

da1nonly
08-05-2008, 12:40 PM
me too bredran

in the last draft i had oakley and JO .... i think i got screwed

ya you did get screwed...

The Wise 1
08-05-2008, 01:14 PM
I will take Alvin Robertson

conway429
08-05-2008, 01:54 PM
star
da1nonly
da1nonly
star
The Wise 1
marvILLous

star
08-05-2008, 04:24 PM
Jalen Rose

da1nonly
08-05-2008, 07:41 PM
damn it... i wanted jalen rose...

i'll take jose calderon and tj ford...

and i'll be looking to trade one of these point guards for a sf or pf... let me know who's willing to deal...

how about tj for jermaine oneal?

RAPS424
08-05-2008, 07:47 PM
Lol..if Iwanted Tj..then I Would Have Taken Tj.. But I Assume Ur Making A Joke About The Actual Trade?

star
08-05-2008, 08:00 PM
Ill take Donyell Marshall

The Wise 1
08-05-2008, 09:05 PM
Doug Christie.

da1nonly
08-05-2008, 11:39 PM
Lol..if Iwanted Tj..then I Would Have Taken Tj.. But I Assume Ur Making A Joke About The Actual Trade?

ya im just kidding... but maybe if i draft rasho and maceo baston and nathan jawaii and offer them with tj ford for jermaine oneal... you'll make the trade... hehehe

marvILLous
08-06-2008, 12:03 AM
hey, if i can't take mark jackson.

then i'm going with, Rod Strickland

conway429
08-06-2008, 01:35 AM
I'll take Charlie Villanueva...

conway429
08-06-2008, 01:36 AM
RAPS424
AgentViet
AgentViet
RAPS424
conway429
marvILLous

RAPS424
08-06-2008, 02:45 AM
morris peterson

AgentViet
08-06-2008, 11:10 AM
I'll take Damon Stoudamire and Anthony Parker.

RAPS424
08-06-2008, 01:02 PM
I Guess I Have To Take Boogie Williams (um.. Thats Alvin)

conway429
08-06-2008, 01:04 PM
Muggsy Bogues

conway429
08-06-2008, 01:08 PM
marvILLous
The Wise 1
star
da1nonly
da1nonly
star
The Wise 1
marvILLous

marvILLous
08-06-2008, 02:34 PM
Dell Curry

The Wise 1
08-06-2008, 06:18 PM
Walt Williams

star
08-06-2008, 10:43 PM
^ nice pic

star
08-06-2008, 10:45 PM
Im going to select Herb Williams

I dont know how i managed to get a 20pts/10reb center this late .... but i guess you guys missed out ;)

conway429
08-06-2008, 10:53 PM
hahahah he played 1 game as a Raptor....

da1nonly
da1nonly
star
The Wise 1
marvILLous
conway429
RAPS424
AgentViet
AgentViet
RAPS424
conway429
marvILLous

star
08-06-2008, 10:59 PM
lol .... still counts right?

ummm can you please post a list of the players picked .... its hard to go look throught all of the posts ... just an updated one ... thanks bro

conway429
08-06-2008, 11:14 PM
check my first post on page 1... i erased whatever i wrote and have been updating it as we've been going...

star
08-06-2008, 11:23 PM
oh cool ... thanks bro

conway429
08-06-2008, 11:31 PM
yeah man.. I'm also doing this .doc file to see things team by team...

da1nonly

Hakeem Olajuwon - 24.3 PPG, 14.0 RPG, 4.59 BPG, .501 FG%
Jose Calderon - 11.2 PPG, 8.3 APG, 1.5 TOPG, .519 FG%
TJ Ford - 14.0 PPG, 7.9 APG, 3.1 RPG, .436 FG%


star

Chauncey Billups - 18.5 PPG, 8.6 APG, 3.1 RPG, .418 FG%
Jalen Rose - 20.5 PPG, 6.0 APG, 5.0 RPG, .457 FG%
Donyell Marshall - 14.7 PPG, 9.9 RPG, 1.5 APG, .461 FG%
Herb Williams - 19.9 PPG, 9.1 RPG, 2.4 BPG, .492 FG%


The Wise 1

Chris Bosh - 22.6 PPG, 10.7 RPG, 2.5 APG, .496 FG%
Alvin Robertson - 19.6 PPG, 6.8 APG, 6.1 RPG, 3.0 SPG, .465 FG%
Doug Christie - 16.5 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 2.4 SPG, .428 FG%
Walt Williams - 16.4 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 4.1 APG, .446 FG%


marvILLous

Vince Carter - 27.6 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 3.9 APG, .460 FG%
Charles Oakley - 14.5 PPG, 13.1 RPG, 3.6 APG, .445 FG%
Rod Strickland - 17.8 PPG, 10.5 APG, 5.3 RPG, .434 FG%
Dell Curry - 16.3 PPG, 3.2 RPG, 2.7 APG, .455 FG%


conway429

Tracy McGrady - 32.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 5.5 APG, .457 FG%
Marcus Camby - 9.1 PPG, 13.1 RPG, 3.6 BPG, 3.3 APG, .450 FG%
Charlie Villanueva - 13.0 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 1.1 APG, .463 FG%
Muggsy Bogues - 10.8 PPG, 10.1 APG, 4.1 RPG, .471 FG%


RAPS424

Jermaine O'Neal - 20.8 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 2.3 BPG, .484 FG%
Antonio Davis - 13.7 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 1.9 BPG, .433 FG%
Mo rris Peterson - 16.8 PPG, 4.6 RPG, 2.3 APG, .436 FG%
Alvin Williams - 13.2 PPG, 5.3 APG, 3.1 RPG, .438 FG%


AgentViet

Mark Jackson - 9.9 PPG, 11.4 APG, 4.8 RPG, .426 FG%
Kevin Willis - 18.3 PPG, 15.5 RPG, 2.1 APG, .483 FG%
Damon Stoudamire - 19.0 PPG, 9.3 APG, 4.0 RPG, .426 FG%
Anthony Parker - 12.5 PPG, 4.1 RPG, 2.2 APG, .476 FG%

star
08-06-2008, 11:36 PM
yo da1nonly i seen you on here for some time now .... make your picks dawg

da1nonly
08-06-2008, 11:43 PM
i think we have the wrong herb williams highlighted...
isnt this the herb williams that was a raptor...
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/herb_williams/index.html

star
08-06-2008, 11:45 PM
no


just pick

conway429
08-06-2008, 11:45 PM
yeah thats him... for some reason it's only showing his stats post-1994.
but look at the career highs part, he dropped 40 in 1986.

da1nonly
08-06-2008, 11:51 PM
im getting confused with this draft... are we basing on potential/overall career? or based on conway's post it looks like he's using their best statistical season ever (even though it's just one season)?

if it's best statistical season then i'd take guys like mike james or lamond murray...

but if it's potential and overall career... i'll go with jamario moon or bargniani or alston

i'll take mike james and jamario moon... if there's no consensus here then...

star
08-06-2008, 11:52 PM
dude .... i want to go to bed but i want to pick first so i dont delay this thing .... are you planning to make a move soon?

da1nonly
08-06-2008, 11:53 PM
mike james and jamario moon are my picks then

star
08-06-2008, 11:53 PM
we are doing best season .... i believe .... and i dont know how we rage potential (ie bargs) cause how can u do that

The Wise 1
08-06-2008, 11:54 PM
Thats gay. I knew he was good but when I went to his stats when I was picking I only saw the 94 and up. Oh well.

star
08-06-2008, 11:54 PM
dang ... i was gonna take moon or james
lol

nice pickups


your sotck piling the pgs

conway429
08-06-2008, 11:56 PM
THE WAY IT WORKS IS TO BUILD THE BEST TEAM ESSENTIALLY BASED ON PLAYERS PLAYING IN THEIR PRIMES.
no matter what we set the "rules" at... people are gonna make picks just based on what the team looks like, so potential is always going to influence it.
damon stoudamire has much better numbers so far than jose calderon, but calderon is probably a better pick... so potential becomes a factor, if not officially, then subconsciously.

The Wise 1
08-06-2008, 11:56 PM
we are doing best season .... i believe .... and i dont know how we rage potential (ie bargs) cause how can u do that

Thats what I brought up earlier.

We are going by best statistical season, although just because he put up numbers, doesnt mean he was good.

conway429
08-06-2008, 11:58 PM
it's players in their primes, or for youngsters, their expected primes.

conway429
08-07-2008, 12:01 AM
Thats what I brought up earlier.

We are going by best statistical season, although just because he put up numbers, doesnt mean he was good.

Yeah, I just put up the stats for a reference (more useful for later rounds, where people may be less familiar with players).
Just build a good team... its pretty simple.

da1nonly
08-07-2008, 12:04 AM
it's players in their primes, or for youngsters, their expected primes.

ok... that works for me... youngsters in their expected primes makes more sense when i pick in this draft...

i got confused when you started posting all their best seasons... becuz i picked calderon and tj ford based on what is still to come...

but your clarification works...

i was looking at herb williams too... but i only saw his stats from 94.... damn i wouldn't chosen him...

da1nonly
08-07-2008, 12:06 AM
dang ... i was gonna take moon or james
lol

nice pickups


your sotck piling the pgs

i'm looking to trade a point guard or 2 to fill roster needs at the end of this draft....

if i don't get any takers then i'd play mike james at shooting guard... he's listed as guard rather than point guard...

The Wise 1
08-07-2008, 12:07 AM
THE WAY IT WORKS IS TO BUILD THE BEST TEAM ESSENTIALLY BASED ON PLAYERS PLAYING IN THEIR PRIMES.
no matter what we set the "rules" at... people are gonna make picks just based on what the team looks like, so potential is always going to influence it.
damon stoudamire has much better numbers so far than jose calderon, but calderon is probably a better pick... so potential becomes a factor, if not officially, then subconsciously.

See I dont have a problem with Jose but when it comes to Andrea im gonna bittch all day if people say he is going to be a 20 point scorer. Anyways, when it comes to potential its really only those 2 anyways.

star
08-07-2008, 12:08 AM
im gonna take big nasty .. corlis willaimson

star
08-07-2008, 12:09 AM
i agree .... and even jose i would only allow people to keeo as for what he IS because some people are saying hes top 5 in the leauge .... he is not close

da1nonly
08-07-2008, 12:12 AM
See I dont have a problem with Jose but when it comes to Andrea im gonna bittch all day if people say he is going to be a 20 point scorer. Anyways, when it comes to potential its really only those 2 anyways.

i think you can add tj ford (want to see how he does when he's one of the offensive focal points on a team) and charlie v to the potential pool... roko and jawaii might get a little bit of favourtism on the potential side...

i was debating about andrea too... wasnt sure what people would say... he would make a great pf with olajuwan but some people say bust and some same dirk in training...

i'll be pissed too... becuz i went with moon over andrea based on potential...

The Wise 1
08-07-2008, 12:14 AM
i think you can add tj ford (want to see how he does when he's one of the offensive focal points on a team) and charlie v to the potential pool... roko and jawaii might get a little bit of favourtism on the potential side...

i was debating about andrea too... wasnt sure what people would say... he would make a great pf with olajuwan but some people say bust and some same dirk in training...

i'll be pissed too... becuz i went with moon over andrea based on potential...

Yeah I forgot about Charlie and TJ. IMO they have a higher potential rating then Andrea.

Since Roko and Jawai havent been drafted yet I think we should make a rule about not drafting them. They havent even played a game yet and 1 played in friggin Australia. IMO they should be void from the draft.

conway429
08-07-2008, 01:05 AM
We can void them if you guys want...
the truth is, it probably won't matter... no one's going to win based on having Jawai as their 10th man or whatever...
in a perfect world it'd be great to only draft based on player's past primes, and proven successes, but then players like calderon and bargnani and charlie v and others become obsolete and useless
these are basically the rules we agreed on when it was Raptors27's draft, and it makes sense that Calderon get some respect
and i took charlie v in the 3rd round, so potential had better be worth something.

conway429
08-07-2008, 01:16 AM
dammit Wise 1, instead of chatting and then going to sleep you should of made your pick...

RAPS424
08-07-2008, 11:52 AM
See I dont have a problem with Jose but when it comes to Andrea im gonna bittch all day if people say he is going to be a 20 point scorer. Anyways, when it comes to potential its really only those 2 anyways.

JUST COZ UR A HATER MAN..DOESNT MEAN THE REST OF US CANT THINK HE'S GONA BREAK OUT... MOON IS 28.. AND JUST FINALLY MADE THE NBA.. AND STARTS FOR US AT SF... ANTHONY PARKER HAD TOPLAY OVER SEAS FOR MOST OF HIS CAREER.. FINALLY MADE IT BACK TOTHE NBA AT 30-31 YEARS OLD.. AND IS ONE OF THE TOP 10 3 POINT SHOOTERS IN THE LEAGUE.. AND OUT STARTING SG.. U TELLING ME THAT AFTER 2 SEASONS.. ONE OF WHICH HE PLAYED OUT OF POSITION..THERE IS NO WAY BARGS CAN GET BETTER.. THATS RIDICULOUS..

The Wise 1
08-07-2008, 03:25 PM
JUST COZ UR A HATER MAN..DOESNT MEAN THE REST OF US CANT THINK HE'S GONA BREAK OUT... MOON IS 28.. AND JUST FINALLY MADE THE NBA.. AND STARTS FOR US AT SF... ANTHONY PARKER HAD TOPLAY OVER SEAS FOR MOST OF HIS CAREER.. FINALLY MADE IT BACK TOTHE NBA AT 30-31 YEARS OLD.. AND IS ONE OF THE TOP 10 3 POINT SHOOTERS IN THE LEAGUE.. AND OUT STARTING SG.. U TELLING ME THAT AFTER 2 SEASONS.. ONE OF WHICH HE PLAYED OUT OF POSITION..THERE IS NO WAY BARGS CAN GET BETTER.. THATS RIDICULOUS..

A) I never said he wasnt going to get better
B) It's interesting that you bring up Moon's and Parker's past. You do realize that that is our weakest link in our lineup right? It could be argued that we are bottom 5 in terms of starting wing players. And enough with your ****ing all caps on. How many times have people told you?

The Wise 1
08-07-2008, 03:31 PM
Keon Clark

star
08-07-2008, 03:34 PM
^ dude seriously stop writing in caps .... it makes you seem ********

conway429
08-07-2008, 03:51 PM
marvILLous
conway429
RAPS424
AgentViet
AgentViet
RAPS424
conway429
marvILLous
The Wise 1
star
da1nonly

star
08-07-2008, 03:53 PM
i think raps424 should be penalized for being ignorant by writing in all caps for like the 20th time .... lets force him to take hoffa :)

RAPS424
08-07-2008, 04:47 PM
Boo Hoo ..does It Hurt Ur Eyes That The Letters Are In Capitals.. Is That Really A Complaint Of Urs.. That My Cap Locks Is On.... Doesnt Matter If Those Positions Are Weak.. The Point Is They Got Better Over Time.. Try To Keep Up!!!!

RAPS424
08-07-2008, 04:48 PM
Oh..and Parker Was Our 2nd Leading Scorer..

da1nonly
08-07-2008, 05:15 PM
i actually think jamario still has room to grow... potential to be a better defensive player than last year...

bargnani is hard to rate... and if we leave it up to the people to decide ... it can either really hurt your team or really make your team look better...

The Wise 1
08-07-2008, 06:28 PM
RAPS424

This message is hidden because RAPS424 is on your ignore list.

marvILLous
08-07-2008, 11:59 PM
Benoit Benjamin

PG - Rod Strickland
SG - Dell Curry
SF - Vince Carter
PF - Charles Oakley
C - Benoit Benjamin

starting line-up :)

conway429
08-08-2008, 12:50 AM
at 22 ppg, I'll take John Long.

RAPS424
08-08-2008, 10:35 AM
I Guess I'll The Best 3 Point Shooter 2 Years Running.. Jason Kapono

RAPS424
08-08-2008, 10:36 AM
and iwont be back on here till later..coz i gota go to work....

AgentViet
08-08-2008, 01:04 PM
I'll take Jerome Williams and Lamond Murray.

conway429
08-08-2008, 01:43 PM
since he's gone, RAPS424 sent me a message with his picks, and with JYD taken, he gets Bargnani.
I'll take Rafer Alston.

marvILLous
The Wise 1
star
da1nonly
da1nonly
star
The Wise 1
marvILLous
conway429

da1nonly
08-08-2008, 06:36 PM
we pausing for the weekend?

conway429
08-08-2008, 07:20 PM
meh... if you're here and its your pick, might as well make the pick.
but no time limit until monday i guess... no one will be forced to take hoffa.

marvILLous
08-09-2008, 12:45 AM
Dee Brown

JWalk126
08-10-2008, 01:31 AM
thats a kind of disturbing sig

The Wise 1
08-10-2008, 03:39 AM
Popeye Jones

RAPS424
08-11-2008, 03:34 PM
ok..how long does star have.. i say we penalize him and give him hoffa...

conway429
08-11-2008, 04:43 PM
there was no clock for the weekend, so as long as he makes his pick by midnight tonight, which i'm sure he will
otherwise, he'll be hoffa'ed.

RAPS424
08-11-2008, 06:57 PM
So..realistically There Could Be One Pick A Day?...so When It Comes To My Turn.. I Have One Full Day To Make My Pick? Really? Wow..that Will Move Things Along Quickly

conway429
08-11-2008, 09:01 PM
....yeah.
most picks are probably going to be done between 6 and 10 pm, when people are done with work, etc and have free time to come on here.
so I expect we can get a few picks done at that time every day.
obviously this is stupid if everyone is going to max out their time, but that probably won't happen.
what if someone checks the page at like 11 and then they go to sleep. at midnight the guy before him takes his pick. buddy's probably not going to check the thread until after work the next day (at least 18 hours later)
i wanna get this done as soon as possible, but it's not very reasonable to expect someone to devote their life to round 8 of the official raptor's re-draft on PSD.

star
08-11-2008, 09:57 PM
So..realistically There Could Be One Pick A Day?...so When It Comes To My Turn.. I Have One Full Day To Make My Pick? Really? Wow..that Will Move Things Along Quickly



your annoying ... clearly there was no picks to be made on the weekend and most of us do work ... it went fairly fast through the week ... so if you have a problem with people that have a life on the weekends and dont sit in front of a computer like your loser *** then you should not have participated.

Now shut your mouth and play the game

star
08-11-2008, 10:04 PM
eric williams (he was good before he was a rap)

RAPS424
08-11-2008, 10:46 PM
Lol... My Loser ***??..i Have My Own Business .. And Have Ppl Work For Me.. .. Go Back To Work And Make Ur $10 /hr Tuff Guy.. Hey Maybe I Can Hire U.. If Ur Good I'll Give U A Job Pal.. If U Cant Be Around.. U Shouldnt Have Participated..i Didnt Say Anything About The Weekend..i Was Talking About Today.. 10 Pm U Made Ur Pick.. Other Pplare Waiting... And.. Oh No..what Will I Do If I Cant Stay In This Draft... The World Will End.. Now Shut The **** Up.. Oh..and Does The Caps Hurt Ur Eyes Again.. Does It.. U Gona Cry Again Coz I My Letters Are In Capitals..?

The Wise 1
08-11-2008, 11:03 PM
Lindsey Hunter

marvILLous
08-11-2008, 11:06 PM
Lindsey Hunter

I think it's da1nonly's turn first lol..

conway429
08-12-2008, 12:21 AM
da1nonly
da1nonly
star
The Wise 1
marvILLous
conway429
RAPS424
AgentViet

da1nonly
08-12-2008, 07:59 AM
need a nice all around player multi-position player....
forward-guard ...

willie anderson

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anderwi01.html
best season
mins 33.8
fg% .498
pts 18.6
rbs 5.1
ast 4.6
stl 1.9

need some basketball smarts, good positioning, defence with a little 3point shooting...

jorge garbajosa


still looking to trade... who'd like a good point guard?

star
08-12-2008, 09:36 AM
I will take John Long - 22ppg ... should be great off the bench

star
08-12-2008, 09:37 AM
Lol... My Loser ***??..i Have My Own Business .. And Have Ppl Work For Me.. .. Go Back To Work And Make Ur $10 /hr Tuff Guy.. Hey Maybe I Can Hire U.. If Ur Good I'll Give U A Job Pal.. If U Cant Be Around.. U Shouldnt Have Participated..i Didnt Say Anything About The Weekend..i Was Talking About Today.. 10 Pm U Made Ur Pick.. Other Pplare Waiting... And.. Oh No..what Will I Do If I Cant Stay In This Draft... The World Will End.. Now Shut The **** Up.. Oh..and Does The Caps Hurt Ur Eyes Again.. Does It.. U Gona Cry Again Coz I My Letters Are In Capitals..?

hahahahahahhahahahahaahahah
your own business doing what selling sitckers on the internet

hahahahahahahaha

too much

conway429
08-12-2008, 11:38 AM
I will take John Long - 22ppg ... should be great off the bench

hahah, that's what I was thinking when I took him 10 picks ago.

RAPS424
08-12-2008, 11:40 AM
hahahahahahhahahahahaahahah
your own business doing what selling sitckers on the internet

hahahahahahahaha

too much

YEP U GOT ME.. MAKE UP A BUSINESS.. AND THEN LAUGH LIKE AS IF U NAILED IT.. MORON.!!!..ITS NOT A STAY AT HOME BUSINESS STAR...IM AT HOME COZ I PAY PPL ...LIKE U.. LITTLE WORKER BEES TO DO ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING FOR ME.... I JUST COLLECT THE MONEY... AND NICE NAME "STAR" IN UR OWN MIND IM SURE U ARE.. WITH UR WITTY JOKES LIKE.. SELLING STICKERS... ZING.....GOOD ONE.. AND IM PRTEEY SURE JOHN LONG WAS TAKEN ALREADY!!

RAPS424
08-12-2008, 11:40 AM
I will take John Long - 22ppg ... should be great off the bench

TRY TO KEEP UP... .. OR GET UR ROOMATE TO READ IT OUT FOR U..

conway429
08-12-2008, 11:41 AM
need a nice all around player multi-position player....
forward-guard ...

willie anderson

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anderwi01.html
best season
mins 33.8
fg% .498
pts 18.6
rbs 5.1
ast 4.6
stl 1.9

need some basketball smarts, good positioning, defence with a little 3point shooting...

jorge garbajosa


still looking to trade... who'd like a good point guard?

dammit... I wanted Willie....

I think you're going to have trouble moving that second PG... PFs are considerably more uncommon than PGs....
The Wise 1's the only guy I see without a decent PG at this point, and I don't see him giving up Bosh. He could even use Alvin at the point or something anyways.

da1nonly
08-12-2008, 01:07 PM
dammit... I wanted Willie....

I think you're going to have trouble moving that second PG... PFs are considerably more uncommon than PGs....
The Wise 1's the only guy I see without a decent PG at this point, and I don't see him giving up Bosh. He could even use Alvin at the point or something anyways.

possible 3 or 4 team trade....

i'm sure if i offered tj, jamario and player to be name later... someone might bight ...

i'm just waiting for you to post the teams so i can see what multi team deal i can make...

da1nonly
08-12-2008, 01:18 PM
there weren't enough powerforwards to begin with... so i took the best talent... 7 teams maybe only 4 quality pfs...

or how about

tj + gabajosa for andrea + alvin williams...

tj for charlie v...

conway429
08-12-2008, 02:03 PM
i'm just waiting for you to post the teams so i can see what multi team deal i can make...

these are the lineups as I see them so far...
let me know if anyone sees their starters differently...


da1nonly

PG Jose Calderon - 11.2 PPG, 8.3 APG, 1.5 TOPG, .519 FG%
SG Mike James - 20.3 PPG, 5.8 APG, 3.3 RPG, .442 FG%
SF Jamario Moon - 8.5 PPG, 6.2 RPG, 1.4 BPG, .485 FG%
PF
C Hakeem Olajuwon - 24.3 PPG, 14.0 RPG, 4.59 BPG, .501 FG%

TJ Ford - 14.0 PPG, 7.9 APG, 3.1 RPG, .436 FG%
Willie Anderson - 18.6 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 4.6 APG, .498 FG%
Jorge Garbajosa - 8.5 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 1.9 APG, ..420 FG%


star

PG Chauncey Billups - 18.5 PPG, 8.6 APG, 3.1 RPG, .418 FG%
SG Jalen Rose - 20.5 PPG, 6.0 APG, 5.0 RPG, .457 FG%
SF Corliss Williamson - 17.7 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 2.9 APG, .495 FG%
PF Donyell Marshall - 14.7 PPG, 9.9 RPG, 1.5 APG, .461 FG%
C Herb Williams - 19.9 PPG, 9.1 RPG, 2.4 BPG, .492 FG%

Eric Williams - 15.0 PPG, 4.6 RPG, 1.8 APG, .456 FG%


The Wise 1

PG Alvin Robertson - 19.6 PPG, 6.8 APG, 6.1 RPG, 3.0 SPG, .465 FG%
SG Doug Christie - 16.5 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 2.4 SPG, .428 FG%
SF Walt Williams - 16.4 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 4.1 APG, .446 FG%
PF Chris Bosh - 22.6 PPG, 10.7 RPG, 2.5 APG, .496 FG%
C Keon Clark - 11.3 PPG, 7.4 RPG, 1.5 BPG, .490 FG%

Popeye Jones - 11.3 PPG, 10.8 RPG, 1.9 APG, .446 FG%


marvILLous

PG Rod Strickland - 17.8 PPG, 10.5 APG, 5.3 RPG, .434 FG%
SG Dell Curry - 16.3 PPG, 3.2 RPG, 2.7 APG, .455 FG%
SF Vince Carter - 27.6 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 3.9 APG, .460 FG%
PF Charles Oakley - 14.5 PPG, 13.1 RPG, 3.6 APG, .445 FG%
C Benoit Benjamin - 16.4 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 2.8 BPG, .541 FG%

Dee Brown - 15.5 PPG, 4.5 APG, 3.9 RPG, .480 FG%


conway429

PG Muggsy Bogues - 10.8 PPG, 10.1 APG, 4.1 RPG, .471 FG%
SG John Long - 21.9 PPG, 3.7 RPG, 2.1 APG, .492 FG%
SF Tracy McGrady - 32.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 5.5 APG, .457 FG%
PF Charlie Villanueva - 13.0 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 1.1 APG, .463 FG%
C Marcus Camby - 9.1 PPG, 13.1 RPG, 3.6 BPG, 3.3 APG, .450 FG%

Rafer Alston - 14.2 PPG, 6.4 APG, 3.5 RPG, .414 FG%


RAPS424

PG Alvin Williams - 13.2 PPG, 5.3 APG, 3.1 RPG, .438 FG%
SG Mo rris Peterson - 16.8 PPG, 4.6 RPG, 2.3 APG, .436 FG%
SF Jason Kapono - 10.9 PPG, 2.7 RPG, 1.2 APG, .494 FG%
PF Jermaine O'Neal - 20.8 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 2.3 BPG, .484 FG%
C Antonio Davis - 13.7 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 1.9 BPG, .433 FG%

Andrea Bargnani - 11.6 PPG, 3.9 RPG, 0.8 BPG, .427 FG%


AgentViet

PG Mark Jackson - 9.9 PPG, 11.4 APG, 4.8 RPG, .426 FG%
SG Anthony Parker - 12.5 PPG, 4.1 RPG, 2.2 APG, .476 FG%
SF - Jerome Williams - 9.7 PPG, 9.2 RPG, 1.6 SPG, .499 FG%
PF
C Kevin Willis - 18.3 PPG, 15.5 RPG, 2.1 APG, .483 FG%

Damon Stoudamire - 19.0 PPG, 9.3 APG, 4.0 RPG, .426 FG%
Lamond Murray - 16.6 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 2.2 APG, .436 FG%

da1nonly
08-12-2008, 02:28 PM
these are the lineups as I see them so far...
let me know if anyone sees their starters differently...


da1nonly

PG Jose Calderon - 11.2 PPG, 8.3 APG, 1.5 TOPG, .519 FG%
SG Mike James - 20.3 PPG, 5.8 APG, 3.3 RPG, .442 FG%
SF Willie Anderson - 18.6 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 4.6 APG, 1.9 SPG .498 FG%
PF Jorge Garbajosa - 8.5 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 1.9 APG, ..420 FG%
C Hakeem Olajuwon - 24.3 PPG, 14.0 RPG, 4.59 BPG, .501 FG%

TJ Ford - 14.0 PPG, 7.9 APG, 3.1 RPG, .436 FG%
Jamario Moon - 8.5 PPG, 6.2 RPG, 1.4 BPG, .485 FG%


i just substituted willie anderson based on the numbers ahead of jamario moon... and inserted jorge garbajosa into the power forward position... he's listed as sf and pf on wiki and played sf, pf and even center with the raptors...

marvILLous
08-12-2008, 03:26 PM
starrr make another pick!

The Wise 1
08-12-2008, 03:36 PM
dammit... I wanted Willie....

I think you're going to have trouble moving that second PG... PFs are considerably more uncommon than PGs....
The Wise 1's the only guy I see without a decent PG at this point, and I don't see him giving up Bosh. He could even use Alvin at the point or something anyways.

Yeah I just figured I would use Christie to bring the ball up and have Robertson as my playmaker. I really have no clue about his game so I hope hes not a shooter. I figured hes more of a slasher since hes gotten 20 ppg before.

conway429
08-12-2008, 04:27 PM
Yeah I just figured I would use Christie to bring the ball up and have Robertson as my playmaker. I really have no clue about his game so I hope hes not a shooter. I figured hes more of a slasher since hes gotten 20 ppg before.

Alvin Robertson was a pretty sick player....
As far as I know, a pretty elite defensive player, first of all....
I'm only 22, so I'm not too familiar with his career.. but I seem to remember him being in the top 3 all-time steals per game list.... as well as him scoring the first Raptor's points ever, on a 3 pointer to start the game...
So basically, effective scoring, great defense, and I also remember hearing about him having a lot of off-court legal issues, so it seems he has a mean streak.
I think he's best suited as a 2 guard... but you might be able to have a little Iverson/Arenas thing going on, with a player who can create his own shots, and plays D so he can handle the other team's ballhandler.
I don't really know what I'm talking about though, re-reading all of this, he kinda reminds me of a Ron Artest-type now, so I don't know... I wouldn't be very comfortable having Ron Artest as my PG.

conway429
08-12-2008, 04:36 PM
well I wikipedia'ed Alvin Robertson
he got charged several times on 3 different occasions for beating women.
he's 6'3..... 4 time all star.... and he actually has the #1 steals/game average ever in the NBA..... 1986 defensive player of the year.... one of 4 players with a quadruple double....

conway429
08-12-2008, 04:37 PM
star
The Wise 1
marvILLous
conway429
RAPS424
AgentViet
AgentViet

marvILLous
08-12-2008, 06:02 PM
MY TEAM is the best :D

star
08-12-2008, 09:41 PM
sorry guys I'm in nagara on busness I am working off my I phone. I'll take tracey murry. If he is taken I will take lindsey hunter

conway429
08-12-2008, 10:07 PM
no stress man... good of you to check, or we'd be waiting here
so you got tracy murray... i'm guessing the wise 1 still wants lindsey hunter ?
so it's marvILLous' turn....

The Wise 1
08-12-2008, 10:41 PM
Alvin Robertson was a pretty sick player....
As far as I know, a pretty elite defensive player, first of all....
I'm only 22, so I'm not too familiar with his career.. but I seem to remember him being in the top 3 all-time steals per game list.... as well as him scoring the first Raptor's points ever, on a 3 pointer to start the game...
So basically, effective scoring, great defense, and I also remember hearing about him having a lot of off-court legal issues, so it seems he has a mean streak.
I think he's best suited as a 2 guard... but you might be able to have a little Iverson/Arenas thing going on, with a player who can create his own shots, and plays D so he can handle the other team's ballhandler.
I don't really know what I'm talking about though, re-reading all of this, he kinda reminds me of a Ron Artest-type now, so I don't know... I wouldn't be very comfortable having Ron Artest as my PG.

Yeah I knew he was a really good defender and so is Christie, so i'm pretty sure both can guard both positions.


no stress man... good of you to check, or we'd be waiting here
so you got tracy murray... i'm guessing the wise 1 still wants lindsey hunter ?
so it's marvILLous' turn....

Yeah i'll take Hunter.

marvILLous
08-13-2008, 12:14 AM
Gary Trent

da1nonly
08-13-2008, 09:10 AM
hey raps424... let's make a deal

what would it take to pry one of your bigmen... andrea, jo or antonio davis? i'll pm you some offers

star
08-13-2008, 10:55 AM
I am looking to deal chauncey billups. Any takers? I don't think that there is any argument that he is the best available pg. He's got the stats and the hampionships to back it up. Let me know

conway429
08-13-2008, 02:15 PM
I'll take Voshon Lenard

RAPS424
AgentViet
AgentViet
RAPS424
conway429
marvILLous
The Wise 1
star
da1nonly

da1nonly
08-13-2008, 02:38 PM
if you deal billups... what position are you trying to fill?

are you looking for a trade that will give you a couple of 2nd tier players... or a trade that will be superstar for superstar???

RAPS424
08-13-2008, 02:54 PM
I'll Take Carlos Delfino.. We All Know That Last Season. We All Loved When He Was On The Floor.. Forced Some Shots At The End Of The Playoffs.. Soled Defender.. Great 3point Shooter.. And Can Run Point In A Pinch

The Wise 1
08-13-2008, 03:18 PM
these are the lineups as I see them so far...
let me know if anyone sees their starters differently...


da1nonly

PG Jose Calderon - 11.2 PPG, 8.3 APG, 1.5 TOPG, .519 FG%
SG Mike James - 20.3 PPG, 5.8 APG, 3.3 RPG, .442 FG%
SF Jamario Moon - 8.5 PPG, 6.2 RPG, 1.4 BPG, .485 FG%
PF
C Hakeem Olajuwon - 24.3 PPG, 14.0 RPG, 4.59 BPG, .501 FG%

TJ Ford - 14.0 PPG, 7.9 APG, 3.1 RPG, .436 FG%
Willie Anderson - 18.6 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 4.6 APG, .498 FG%
Jorge Garbajosa - 8.5 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 1.9 APG, ..420 FG%


star

PG Chauncey Billups - 18.5 PPG, 8.6 APG, 3.1 RPG, .418 FG%
SG Jalen Rose - 20.5 PPG, 6.0 APG, 5.0 RPG, .457 FG%
SF Corliss Williamson - 17.7 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 2.9 APG, .495 FG%
PF Donyell Marshall - 14.7 PPG, 9.9 RPG, 1.5 APG, .461 FG%
C Herb Williams - 19.9 PPG, 9.1 RPG, 2.4 BPG, .492 FG%

Eric Williams - 15.0 PPG, 4.6 RPG, 1.8 APG, .456 FG%


The Wise 1

PG Alvin Robertson - 19.6 PPG, 6.8 APG, 6.1 RPG, 3.0 SPG, .465 FG%
SG Doug Christie - 16.5 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 2.4 SPG, .428 FG%
SF Walt Williams - 16.4 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 4.1 APG, .446 FG%
PF Chris Bosh - 22.6 PPG, 10.7 RPG, 2.5 APG, .496 FG%
C Keon Clark - 11.3 PPG, 7.4 RPG, 1.5 BPG, .490 FG%

Popeye Jones - 11.3 PPG, 10.8 RPG, 1.9 APG, .446 FG%


marvILLous

PG Rod Strickland - 17.8 PPG, 10.5 APG, 5.3 RPG, .434 FG%
SG Dell Curry - 16.3 PPG, 3.2 RPG, 2.7 APG, .455 FG%
SF Vince Carter - 27.6 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 3.9 APG, .460 FG%
PF Charles Oakley - 14.5 PPG, 13.1 RPG, 3.6 APG, .445 FG%
C Benoit Benjamin - 16.4 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 2.8 BPG, .541 FG%

Dee Brown - 15.5 PPG, 4.5 APG, 3.9 RPG, .480 FG%


conway429

PG Muggsy Bogues - 10.8 PPG, 10.1 APG, 4.1 RPG, .471 FG%
SG John Long - 21.9 PPG, 3.7 RPG, 2.1 APG, .492 FG%
SF Tracy McGrady - 32.1 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 5.5 APG, .457 FG%
PF Charlie Villanueva - 13.0 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 1.1 APG, .463 FG%
C Marcus Camby - 9.1 PPG, 13.1 RPG, 3.6 BPG, 3.3 APG, .450 FG%

Rafer Alston - 14.2 PPG, 6.4 APG, 3.5 RPG, .414 FG%


RAPS424

PG Alvin Williams - 13.2 PPG, 5.3 APG, 3.1 RPG, .438 FG%
SG Mo rris Peterson - 16.8 PPG, 4.6 RPG, 2.3 APG, .436 FG%
SF Jason Kapono - 10.9 PPG, 2.7 RPG, 1.2 APG, .494 FG%
PF Jermaine O'Neal - 20.8 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 2.3 BPG, .484 FG%
C Antonio Davis - 13.7 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 1.9 BPG, .433 FG%

Andrea Bargnani - 11.6 PPG, 3.9 RPG, 0.8 BPG, .427 FG%


AgentViet

PG Mark Jackson - 9.9 PPG, 11.4 APG, 4.8 RPG, .426 FG%
SG Anthony Parker - 12.5 PPG, 4.1 RPG, 2.2 APG, .476 FG%
SF - Jerome Williams - 9.7 PPG, 9.2 RPG, 1.6 SPG, .499 FG%
PF
C Kevin Willis - 18.3 PPG, 15.5 RPG, 2.1 APG, .483 FG%

Damon Stoudamire - 19.0 PPG, 9.3 APG, 4.0 RPG, .426 FG%
Lamond Murray - 16.6 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 2.2 APG, .436 FG%

Who has Hakeem?

conway429
08-13-2008, 03:24 PM
............ da1nonly

AgentViet
08-13-2008, 04:08 PM
I'll take... Oliver Miller and John Wallace.

Now have my line as:
Jackson - Stoudamire
Parker
Murray - Wallace
Williams
Willis - Miller

I'm open to trading Stoudamire or Jackson for a big scorer on the wings.

RAPS424
08-13-2008, 05:17 PM
Those Stats Dont Really Show Defensive Intensity!! Except For Kapono.. My Starting Line Up Are All Great Defensive Players.....

And I Choose..john Sally... 3 Champinonship Rings..gota Haev Experience

star
08-13-2008, 05:55 PM
Either or. Depends on the player or package. Tyre aren't too many 1 for 1 I think I would consider. But you never know

The Wise 1
08-13-2008, 06:04 PM
Those Stats Dont Really Show Defensive Intensity!! Except For Kapono.. My Starting Line Up Are All Great Defensive Players.....

And I Choose..john Sally... 3 Champinonship Rings..gota Haev Experience

Great is definitely a stretch. AP and Garbo showed how overrated Mopete's D was once they got here. He played Vince good, hustled and could take charges, thats about it. Alvin was good and AD was a warrrior. IMO Oneal is your only great defensive player.

I dont think anyone has a better defensive backcourt then me :). 1 defensive player of the year award, along with a total of 10 All Defensive team awards. Add some of that Raptor homerism to Bosh's improvement on D and Keon's shot blocking ability and you have the best defensive team :)

conway429
08-14-2008, 04:03 AM
Chris Childs...

marvILLous
The Wise 1
star
da1nonly

marvILLous
08-14-2008, 09:52 AM
Sharone Wright

da1nonly
08-14-2008, 11:04 AM
seems like people are willing to make some deals...
so lets throw some trade ideas out there while we wait on people to pick...

here's one... it's a work in progress ...

star
in: tj ford, robertson, moon
out: billups, jalen rose

da1nonly:
in: oneil, rose
out: moon, james, tj

wise 1:
in: mike james, alvin williams
out: alvin robertson

raps 424:
in: billups
out: oneil