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JordansBulls
07-22-2008, 08:24 AM
Source: Dime Magazine (http://dimemag.com/2008/07/the-loser-list-gilbert-arenas/#more-2825)



Who are those players that perpetually find themselves catching more significant L’s than W’s? For the next couple weeks we’ll be calling them out one at a time:

GILBERT ARENAS

Numbers: 26 years old, 7 NBA seasons, 22.8 points per game, 4.2 rebounds, 5.5 assists, 1.8 steals.

Highest high: In the 2001 NCAA Final Four, Arenas scored 18 of his team-high 21 points in the first half and recorded four steals to help lead Arizona to the national championship game in a win over Illinois.

Lowest low: Arenas arguably hurt his Washington Wizards in the ‘08 NBA playoffs more than he helped. Still rusty from a knee injury that limited him to 13 games in the regular season, Gil averaged 10.8 points in four games and was eventually shut down for Games 5 and 6 before his team was eliminated.

History of losing
Some call Arenas the ultimate winner — a man who’s constantly beat the odds and fought the doubters on his way to becoming one of the NBA’s best all-around players. Others call him a self-involved gunner who succeeds statistically at the expense of his team. The fact that the Wizards maintained a level of play high enough to earn a Top-5 playoff seed after Arenas went down this past season led many to say that if Washington wasn’t flat-out better without him, they at least proved they didn’t need their leading scorer to win ballgames. Throughout his career, “Agent Zero” has put up big numbers on mediocre to above-average teams: When he finished 4th in the League in scoring in ‘05-06, the Wizards finished just two games over .500 and lost in the first round of the playoffs; When he finished 3rd in scoring the following season, Washington was an even .500 and lost in the first round again (Arenas missed the playoffs with a knee injury). He’s a regular among League leaders in turnovers, and despite high numbers in the steals department, Arenas clearly doesn’t lets his defense suffer in favor of being an offensive weapon. And even then, as good as he is scoring the ball, Arenas is notorious for jacking shots. Despite having All-Star talents Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison flanking him, Arenas led the NBA in three-pointers attempted in ‘06-07 (his last full season), and finished #2 in back-to-back seasons preceding that. He’s also a safe bet to finish in the Top-5 for field goals attempted. Arenas has hit memorable game-winners along the way, but he also forces a lot of unnecessary shots when his team would benefit more from him being more patient and/or unselfish. Gilbert’s teams have only been out of the first round once, and the one time they made it out (’05), they were swept in the second round. FYI, after getting Arizona to that national championship game in ‘01, Arenas went 4-for-17 on the big day in a loss to Duke.

Will he ever be a winner?
You’d always rather have a guy on your team who relishes the opportunity to take big shots rather than one who shies away from the ball in crunch time, but Arenas often OD’s on thinking he has to take the big shot every time; even Michael Jordan passed it up to the open teammate sometimes and used himself as a decoy at others. Arenas has come up big in clutch situations, like when he stuck a game-winner in the ‘05 playoffs against Chicago, and put up 36 points and 11 assists in a close elimination game loss to Cleveland in ‘06, but he’s also prone to get the blinders going in a big game. He needs other proven clutch scorers/shooters around him so he’ll be more willing to pass. The man can obviously score, but to truly lead a winning team he needs to be more of a passing point guard (just a little more) or move over to the two while someone else plays the point.

fairandbalanced
07-22-2008, 09:09 AM
Why did Washington resign him? I don't get that. Without him, they performed better. That GM should be fired. Arenas is not a superstar, neither is he a frachise player.

barreleffact
07-22-2008, 09:20 AM
how is he not a super-star? scoring 60 points in the league is one of the criteria to become a superstar and hes proven to be a top tier athlete and scoroer. hes not a bad pg either but hes not a proto-typical one at all however. i dont have a problem having arenas in washington...its obvious their team should rebuild to win tho...pulling a detroit as far as showing interest goes, might be very necessary but keeping the same team is why he signed his contract. i digress tho. heis a top tier talent, and draws a lot af media attention and jersy sales etc. they wouldnt have given him a near max contract if he didnt single handedly generate enough revenue to cover it. does he fit their trying to casll him out? mayeb...only as much as VC did. VC changed due to injury tho so that should be understandable. and gilbert, well he hasnt taken more L's than W's...every season he said gilbert had at least a .500 record. hes good, his team is decent, and if they play better togetehr maybe they wont get matched with lebron next year and can finally not tracy mcgrady themselves.

BALLER71
07-22-2008, 09:29 AM
Well he is a superstar.
That doesn't mean he's the best player on the court, but the guy sells.
He's marketable, therefore SUPERSTAR.

ink
07-22-2008, 11:07 AM
Why did Washington resign him? I don't get that. Without him, they performed better.

Exactly. I thought for sure they'd let him go, but now they're stuck with a huge contract for a guy that the team doesn't even need. Caron Butler is their best player.

Mile High Champ
07-22-2008, 11:13 AM
haha im glad this idiot is near the top of the list. Though I hate vince carter, I think Arenas should be number 1 for all the crap he pulls and his inability to back up anything he says.

BigEric
07-22-2008, 11:34 AM
I'm trying to think of the next superstar that is going to be called out, I'm guessing Carmelo.

Mile High Champ
07-22-2008, 11:56 AM
Im guessing T-Mac.

JordansBulls
07-22-2008, 12:13 PM
I'd trade for Arenas if we can get him for Gordon and Hughes.

Aapox
07-22-2008, 12:22 PM
I'd trade for Arenas if we can get him for Gordon and Hughes.

Hahaha, duh, that's because he has both of those player's abilities in one body.

Mr swag
07-22-2008, 12:25 PM
Why did Washington resign him? I don't get that. Without him, they performed better. That GM should be fired. Arenas is not a superstar, neither is he a frachise player.

im from washington, he puts butts in thoose seats!!!!

boston08champs
07-22-2008, 12:42 PM
gilbert is sick i always love watching him play

JordansBulls
07-22-2008, 05:58 PM
Hahaha, duh, that's because he has both of those player's abilities in one body.


I'd still take him. In fact I'd be willing to trade Hinrich and Gordon for him if need be.

JIDsanity
07-22-2008, 06:11 PM
This is getting stupid

AFlagRules
07-22-2008, 06:49 PM
What about Allen Iverson, maybe he's next.

WaitUrTurn2
07-22-2008, 07:20 PM
Caron Butler is their future, Gilbert is an overpaid PR stunt

C-Dub
07-22-2008, 07:21 PM
i wouldnt say that
maybe melo ro tmac though, i could see that

argo
07-22-2008, 07:52 PM
I'm trying to think of the next superstar that is going to be called out, I'm guessing Carmelo.

My bet is on VC's cousin in H-town

Ha, we had both of these guys in Toronto and their ego's couldn't co-exist.. we were thinking we had the Jordan/ Pippen combination of the future! But I'm glad they're gone now, and that management here is focused on bringing in good character-team guys. No time for whiny, lazy millionaires. Bosh and Calderon have been a God-send..

_Sn1P3r_
07-25-2008, 05:54 PM
Im guessing T-Mac.

I'm guessing that too. He never go out of the first round yet.

kvrnm
07-25-2008, 07:19 PM
wonder if kg would have been on this list had it not been for this year.

Chronz
07-25-2008, 07:38 PM
Wheres number 3?

argo
07-25-2008, 08:47 PM
Wheres number 3?

I saw 3 earlier, it was Ricky Davis.

argo
07-25-2008, 08:50 PM
wonder if kg would have been on this list had it not been for this year.

I don't think he ever needed a "calling out." He brought it every game that I saw him play for Minnesota. He's probably the fiercest competitor in the game.

Chronz
07-25-2008, 09:03 PM
Wheres 4?