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Master Mind
07-20-2008, 03:49 PM
Which team has the best name and logo?

Rank each team honestly...

MiamiHeat
07-20-2008, 03:49 PM
Miami Heat :D

Master Mind
07-20-2008, 04:02 PM
I was trying to put a poll up...Can a MOD add a poll to this please...Thanx!

rogergould54
07-20-2008, 04:04 PM
I would say the miami heat with the ballk on fire going throught the hoop.thats pretty sick.oaklahomo city thunder ill tell ya this is a stupid name....

FlawlessKB24
07-20-2008, 04:05 PM
homer thread ftl

daleja424
07-20-2008, 04:16 PM
Gotta be the Heat, Lakers, and warriors!

KmB728
07-20-2008, 04:16 PM
Quick everyone name your favorite team!

daleja424
07-20-2008, 04:19 PM
hahaha! very true!

Master Mind
07-20-2008, 04:23 PM
1-Miami Heat
2-Memphis Grizzlies
3-Chicago Bulls
4-Golden State Warriors
5-Charlotte Bobcats
6-Boston Celtics
7-Sacramento Kings
8-New Orleans Hornets
9-Orlando Magic
10-Minnesota Timberwolves
11-Milwaukee Bucks
12-Phoenix Suns
13-Dallas Mavericks
14-Cleveland Cavaliers
15-Washington Wizards
16-Atlanta Hawks
17-Houston Rockets
18-New Jersey Nets
19-San Antonio Spurs
20-Toronto Raptors
21-Denver Nuggets
22-Portland Trailblazers
23-Los Angeles Lakers
24-New York Knicks
25-Philadelphia 76ers
26-Detroit Pistons
27-Utah Jazz
28-Indiana Pacers
29-Los Angeles Clippers
30-OKC

Jay22Redd
07-20-2008, 04:25 PM
Miami Heat

Jibonnie125
07-20-2008, 04:29 PM
I really like the Warriors name and logo

$ NyC $
07-20-2008, 04:36 PM
im a warrior...lolll not realli from NY

SO IMA NAME MY FAV. TEAM..

GO KNICKS..

nd jibonnie that pic is way 2 funny..

phillyphan4ever
07-20-2008, 04:37 PM
i like the TWolves and Mavericks

phlp_bj
07-20-2008, 04:43 PM
the chicago bulls

number1nykfan25
07-20-2008, 04:45 PM
i always like the t wolves and magic name and logo.

fins08
07-20-2008, 04:52 PM
Heat, Blazers, WTF is a Spur?

Master Mind
07-20-2008, 04:55 PM
Heat, Blazers, WTF is a Spur?

A spur is the medal object on the end of cowboy boots...

jayl1377
07-20-2008, 05:10 PM
Chi-Town

Beno7500
07-20-2008, 05:15 PM
OKC Thunder FTW

adealstimson
07-20-2008, 05:20 PM
I dont know but THUNDER is by far the WORST

Master Mind
07-20-2008, 05:27 PM
Ok what's the top 3 best name and logo and what's the top 3 worst name and logo?

Crunchy12489
07-20-2008, 05:32 PM
I like the Rockets... the old school Rockets... not the logo with the screwed up "R"

NJrockPD
07-20-2008, 05:45 PM
bulls

ink
07-20-2008, 05:47 PM
Best

Bulls
Magic
Heat
Pistons
Suns
Nuggets
Warriors
Spurs

Classic

Celtics
Knicks
76ers

Not so good

Lakers (no lakes ... they should have changed the name when they moved)
Jazz (Utah + Jazz??? :confused: should have changed the name when they moved)

Awful

Grizzlies
Raptors
Bobcats
Wizards (NBA's worst name ... Bullets was better but it wasn't PC)

mfudge
07-20-2008, 05:51 PM
Best

Bulls
Magic
Heat
Pistons
Suns
Nuggets
Warriors
Spurs

Classic

Celtics
Knicks
76ers

Not so good

Lakers (no lakes ... they should have changed the name when they moved)
Jazz (Utah + Jazz??? :confused: should have changed the name when they moved)

Awful

Grizzlies
Raptors
Bobcats
Wizards (NBA's worst name ... Bullets was better but it wasn't PC)

is there a lotta bulls in chicago? maybe im just not aware of that. cuz by your lakers and jazz standard, if there's no bulls in chicago then its a not so good name too.

THE MTL
07-20-2008, 05:53 PM
New York Knicks! Comeon a knick? Do you even know what that is anymore? A knickerbocker. Its classic.

Master Mind
07-20-2008, 05:54 PM
is there a lotta bulls in chicago? maybe im just not aware of that. cuz by your lakers and jazz standard, if there's no bulls in chicago then its a not so good name too.

GOOD POINT! :nod:

horry1ur
07-20-2008, 05:57 PM
Best

Bulls
Magic
Heat
Pistons
Suns
Nuggets
Warriors
Spurs

Classic

Celtics
Knicks
76ers

Not so good

Lakers (no lakes ... they should have changed the name when they moved)
Jazz (Utah + Jazz??? :confused: should have changed the name when they moved)

Awful

Grizzlies
Raptors
Bobcats
Wizards (NBA's worst name ... Bullets was better but it wasn't PC)


Lakers doesnt mean Lake its a vessel:) but it does have lake in it and it does have something to do with a lake:smoking:

yaowowrocket11
07-20-2008, 05:58 PM
Best:
1. Blazers
2. Heat
3. T-Wolves

Worst:
1. Spurs
2. Magic
3. Jazz

ink
07-20-2008, 06:01 PM
is there a lotta bulls in chicago? maybe im just not aware of that. cuz by your lakers and jazz standard, if there's no bulls in chicago then its a not so good name too.


GOOD POINT! :nod:

Hardly.

That's not a standard. The animal doesn't have to represent an animal that lives there. Names get picked for a few reasons: they might name something about the place, or pick something that embodies the character of the team.

The Bulls are obviously the latter. Do Lakers or Jazz embody the spirit of the team?? No. Do those names represent the place? No. They just kept the name when the teams moved to VERY different places. They don't really fit, but in the case of the Lakers, no one thinks about the name because of the winning tradition. Still doesn't make it a good name.

Bulls is the best in the league by far. When MJ had that logo on his jersey, there was no mistaking what the name and logo symbolized. Unstoppable force.

mfudge
07-20-2008, 06:09 PM
That's not a standard. Names get picked for a few reasons: they might name something about the place, or pick something that embodies the character of the team.

The Bulls are obviously the latter. Do Lakers or Jazz embody the spirit of the team?? No. Do those names represent the place? No. They just kept the name when the teams moved to VERY different places. They don't really fit, but in the case of the Lakers, no one thinks about the name because of the winning tradition. Still doesn't make it a good name.

Bulls is the best in the league by far. When MJ had that logo on his jersey, there was no mistaking what the name and logo symbolized.

so a generic mascot like warriors and bulls is better than a name that embodies a team's original heritage? would Los Angeles Bulls make any more or less sense than Chicago Bulls? or Los Angeles Warriors make any more or less sense than Golden State Warriors? the mascot Bulls and Warriors have nothing to do with their cities..... any city could have a team with those names then. to me, generic names are absolutely terrible... meanwhile Lakers carries with it a RICH history and heritage.

ink
07-20-2008, 06:18 PM
so a generic mascot like warriors and bulls is better than a name that embodies a team's original heritage? would Los Angeles Bulls make any more or less sense than Chicago Bulls? or Los Angeles Warriors make any more or less sense than Golden State Warriors? the mascot Bulls and Warriors have nothing to do with their cities..... any city could have a team with those names then. to me, generic names are absolutely terrible... meanwhile Lakers carries with it a RICH history and heritage.

There's nothing generic about an animal name. Take "Raptors" for example. IMO it's one of the worst in the league and that's a team I'm passionate about. They were trying for something that sounded tough and came off with something that sounds silly IMO. Take "Bucks". A so what kind of name, but a very different choice. Every animal name in the league has a different character. Some fit basketball well and some don't. All the names are very different and not generic at all. I don't know where you get this "generic" concept from when we're talking about very specific names.

I'd take a heritage name like Celtics, Knicks or 76ers ... or I'd take a name that tries to embody the spirit of winning like the Bulls. Lakers has only become a name people like because of the winning tradition. I'm not slagging your team. :) The name just doesn't fit Los Angeles or California.

DocUSN
07-20-2008, 06:19 PM
Gotta be the Heat, Lakers, and warriors!

All those lakes in LA!!!

McPeak92
07-20-2008, 06:22 PM
Philadelphia 76ers, GOTTA love the historical significance with the 1776 thing and what not!

Max Power
07-20-2008, 06:22 PM
is there a lotta bulls in chicago? maybe im just not aware of that. cuz by your lakers and jazz standard, if there's no bulls in chicago then its a not so good name too.

From the book The Chicago Bulls Encyclopedia


Klein called his team the Chicago Bulls, a name that denoted strength and power, tied to the city's meat packing tradition and the Ampitheatre's (their original home) proximity to the famed Chicago stockyards.

The Bulls name and logo are among the best in the NBA.


Personally, I can not stand team names that aren't plural, ie. Jazz, Heat, Thunder, etc.

kingbrentg
07-20-2008, 06:30 PM
Best:

1. Timberwolves
2. Bulls
3. Warriors
4. Hornets
5. Grizzlies

Worst:

1. Clippers
2. Nets
3. Pacers
4. Rockets
5. 76ers

ARMIN12NBA
07-20-2008, 06:39 PM
Best

Bulls
Magic
Heat
Pistons
Suns
Nuggets
Warriors
Spurs

Classic

Celtics
Knicks
76ers

Not so good

Lakers (no lakes ... they should have changed the name when they moved)
Jazz (Utah + Jazz??? :confused: should have changed the name when they moved)

Awful

Grizzlies
Raptors
Bobcats
Wizards (NBA's worst name ... Bullets was better but it wasn't PC)

There are lakes in Los Angeles...Balboa Lake, Echo Lake, Westlake, etc.

BTW, they are not going to change a name of a team with so much history. The Lakers had 5 championships already (about 12 years in the NBA to that point) and the greatest player to that point in George Mikan so there is no way they are changing that name.

Anyways, I like the Warriors name and logo.

dannyboy19
07-20-2008, 06:52 PM
<img src="http://wolves.e-nba.pl/loga/min.gif">

dannyboy19
07-20-2008, 06:52 PM
http://wolves.e-nba.pl/loga/min.gif

horry1ur
07-20-2008, 06:53 PM
All those lakes in LA!!!

All those Wizards in Washington...all those kings in Sac...all those Blazers in Portland...all those Pacers in Indianapolis...all those warriors in Oakland...all those bulls in chicago..all the 76ers in Philadelphia(btw what is a 76er?)..all those Magic in Orlando.umm you get the point i guess:rolleyes:

Master Mind
07-20-2008, 07:00 PM
From the book The Chicago Bulls Encyclopedia



The Bulls name and logo are among the best in the NBA.


Personally, I can not stand team names that aren't plural, ie. Jazz, Heat, Thunder, etc.

I can understand the other two but the Miami Heat?...That's self explanatory how can that not be the best...Plus it has to be the most accurate name in sports...Have you ever been to Miami? Then you'd understand why they're called the Heat...And it don't only represent the team, it represents the city...Literally!

JordansBulls
07-20-2008, 07:16 PM
I like the Orlando Magic's logo and team name.

UNETOWNBAYAREA
07-20-2008, 07:19 PM
warriors and heat!

brandonwarne52
07-20-2008, 07:23 PM
Gotta be the Heat, Lakers, and warriors!

FAIL.

mfudge
07-20-2008, 07:27 PM
There's nothing generic about an animal name. Take "Raptors" for example. IMO it's one of the worst in the league and that's a team I'm passionate about. They were trying for something that sounded tough and came off with something that sounds silly IMO. Take "Bucks". A so what kind of name, but a very different choice. Every animal name in the league has a different character. Some fit basketball well and some don't. All the names are very different and not generic at all. I don't know where you get this "generic" concept from when we're talking about very specific names.

I'd take a heritage name like Celtics, Knicks or 76ers ... or I'd take a name that tries to embody the spirit of winning like the Bulls. Lakers has only become a name people like because of the winning tradition. I'm not slagging your team. :) The name just doesn't fit Los Angeles or California.

The Bulls name and Warriors name and Raptors name just don't fit the city of Chicago, Oakland, or Toronto. There's no Warriors in Oakland, no Bulls in Chicago, and absolutely NO Raptors in Toronto. They're "generic" because they're fierce and intimidating animals and that is all. yes, they're "specific" instances of names in the NBA but they are generic in the sense that any city could utilize them because there is NO ties to that particular city. Do you understand that? Golden State Warriors could be Washington Warriors could be Miami Warriors could be Cleveland Warriors could be Atlanta Warriors. Its generic because it can fit ANYWHERE. Warriors is probably the MOST generic name in the history of sports mascots. It's NOT at all tied to a particular city.

likewise Lakers isn't tied to LA, sure. but neither are the ones listed in my paragraph above but they're "cool" because they're intimidating and fierce animals and Lakers is not. i don't buy that. Do you really think Luol Deng looks at his Bulls jersey, thinks to himself I'm really the animal bull so I'm going to go out and play like a Bull? Or Bosh goes out and plays like a Raptor? Or that Baron (when he was a Warrior) played like a warrior because he was inspired by his jersey?

IMO, the Bulls, Warriors, and Raptors, among others, are a poor excuse for a team name because they can't think of something great about their city to tie into their team name. So they have to settle for some GENERIC fierce animal name.

i understand you love MJ and all.. but the bottomline is that Bulls has as much to do with Chicago as Lakers does with LA making them equally as stupid. So if you don't like Lakers you can't like Bulls. and if you like Bulls you gotta like the Lakers. they're on the same level.

pimpunleashed
07-20-2008, 07:28 PM
miami heat no question

HOZ THE KNICK
07-20-2008, 07:32 PM
trailblazers, bullets.....i don't know where they got wizards from?and bobcats...that's original when a team owner names his team after himself.

Max Power
07-20-2008, 07:37 PM
I can understand the other two but the Miami Heat?...That's self explanatory how can that not be the best...Plus it has to be the most accurate name in sports...Have you ever been to Miami? Then you'd understand why they're called the Heat...And it don't only represent the team, it represents the city...Literally!

If they really wanted to represent the city, they would have called them the Humidity or the Cubans. My issue isn't really with the name, but that I don't like the non-plurals. If someone were to ask LeBron who he plays for he'd respond "I am a Cavalier" IF you ask wade does he say "I'm a Heat"?'


The Bulls name and Warriors name and Raptors name just don't fit the city of Chicago, Oakland, or Toronto. There's no Warriors in Oakland, no Bulls in Chicago, and absolutely NO Raptors in Toronto. They're "generic" because they're fierce and intimidating animals and that is all. yes, they're "specific" instances of names in the NBA but they are generic in the sense that any city could utilize them because there is NO ties to that particular city. Do you understand that? Golden State Warriors could be Washington Warriors could be Miami Warriors could be Cleveland Warriors could be Atlanta Warriors. Its generic because it can fit ANYWHERE. Warriors is probably the MOST generic name in the history of sports mascots. It's NOT at all tied to a particular city.

likewise Lakers isn't tied to LA, sure. but neither are the ones listed in my paragraph above but they're "cool" because they're intimidating and fierce animals and Lakers is not. i don't buy that. Do you really think Luol Deng looks at his Bulls jersey, thinks to himself I'm really the animal bull so I'm going to go out and play like a Bull? Or Bosh goes out and plays like a Raptor? Or that Baron (when he was a Warrior) played like a warrior because he was inspired by his jersey?

IMO, the Bulls, Warriors, and Raptors, among others, are a poor excuse for a team name because they can't think of something great about their city to tie into their team name. So they have to settle for some GENERIC fierce animal name.

i understand you love MJ and all.. but the bottomline is that Bulls has as much to do with Chicago as Lakers does with LA making them equally as stupid. So if you don't like Lakers you can't like Bulls. and if you like Bulls you gotta like the Lakers. they're on the same level.


Did you not see my previous post about the orgins of the Bulls' name and the team's original stadium's proximity to the stockyards?

Arsenal17
07-20-2008, 07:49 PM
The name should describe the city. The Pistons is great for that reason. The 76ers is great. The Suns, Heat, and Spurs are good. Some names like Grizzlies, Bobcats, Thunder, and Wizards are just lame.

Master Mind
07-20-2008, 08:02 PM
If they really wanted to represent the city, they would have called them the Humidity or the Cubans. My issue isn't really with the name, but that I don't like the non-plurals. If someone were to ask LeBron who he plays for he'd respond "I am a Cavalier" IF you ask wade does he say "I'm a Heat"?'




Did you not see my previous post about the orgins of the Bulls' name and the team's original stadium's proximity to the stockyards?

Lets not get ignorant here bro, there's all types of nationalities/cultures in South Fla. not just Cubans...And I see what you're saying about plurals and stuff but every team doesn't have to be the same...And there can be different meanings/use to a non plural name for example the magic, that can refer to the mythical powers of a warlock or the way they play basketball is simply magic...As for the Heat it's hot as the devil's *** crack down here which is one of the reasons they are called the Heat. And you can also look at it this way, (Miami) basketball is on fire as seen on the logo...It's just a hot city, the women are hot, the clubs are hot, the team is HOT...If I were Wade and I was asked that question I would say im a hot boy or just plain hot...But thats just me...:D

horry1ur
07-20-2008, 08:21 PM
Wow this thread is turning into a mess already people defending their teams (including me) but to be truthful the majority will either say their fave team or their second fave IMO

Afridi786
07-20-2008, 08:25 PM
I like the Warriors.

mfudge
07-20-2008, 08:33 PM
If they really wanted to represent the city, they would have called them the Humidity or the Cubans. My issue isn't really with the name, but that I don't like the non-plurals. If someone were to ask LeBron who he plays for he'd respond "I am a Cavalier" IF you ask wade does he say "I'm a Heat"?'




Did you not see my previous post about the orgins of the Bulls' name and the team's original stadium's proximity to the stockyards?

o, so the team is named after the animals that are slaughtered in close proximity to the team's original stadium? that's such an awesome team name now. every other team can now say, hey lets go slaughter those bulls like they do at the local slaughterhouse. that's so awesome!! ok, so maybe that team name is tied to the city but ink couldn't give me that. and it still doesn't explain the warriors and raptors.

dre1990
07-20-2008, 08:39 PM
I think the Portland Trailblazers have a sick logo, and the pistons and lakers have sick names

brandonwarne52
07-20-2008, 08:40 PM
I think the Portland Trailblazers have a sick logo, and the pistons and lakers have sick names

The Lakers HAD a sick name.

mfudge
07-20-2008, 08:44 PM
The Lakers HAD a sick name.

hard to take a guy who thinks kubel>hunter seriously. lmao.

horry1ur
07-20-2008, 08:44 PM
^ then what happend?

_Sn1P3r_
07-20-2008, 08:48 PM
Heat and Blazer's logo is pretty sick.

Master Mind
07-20-2008, 08:52 PM
I like the name for Portland but I can't quite understand what the logo is?

dre1990
07-20-2008, 08:55 PM
i dont think miami's logo's that great

brandonwarne52
07-20-2008, 09:07 PM
^ then what happend?

They moved.

And check some stats, Kubel > Hunter.

horry1ur
07-20-2008, 09:12 PM
Lakers is a sick name
But its true M.P.L.S was sick!

ink
07-20-2008, 09:14 PM
All those Wizards in Washington...all those kings in Sac...all those Blazers in Portland...all those Pacers in Indianapolis...all those warriors in Oakland...all those bulls in chicago..all the 76ers in Philadelphia(btw what is a 76er?)..all those Magic in Orlando.umm you get the point i guess:rolleyes:

Looks like you missed the earlier discussion that said that not all names were about the area. Some are about a quality that the team wants to characterize their team with through an animal - Bulls, Hawks, etc.

ink
07-20-2008, 09:15 PM
Did you not see my previous post about the orgins of the Bulls' name and the team's original stadium's proximity to the stockyards?

Good find btw!

ink
07-20-2008, 09:19 PM
o, so the team is named after the animals that are slaughtered in close proximity to the team's original stadium? that's such an awesome team name now. every other team can now say, hey lets go slaughter those bulls like they do at the local slaughterhouse. that's so awesome!! ok, so maybe that team name is tied to the city but ink couldn't give me that. and it still doesn't explain the warriors and raptors.

Doesn't really matter. You don't have to be so literal when something is meant to be symbolic. Animal icons are commonly used in sport. I gave you that and it's a true reason. Franchises pick animals to symbolize the character or quality they want the team to have.

Then there was a whole other generation before that picked traditional names like the Knickerbockers or the Celtics. Those are also cool.

And to the person who said that everyone would be a homer and pick their own team, I already said that the Raptors was among the lamest names in the league. It was a marketing ploy because Jurassic Park was big then. Now it's just dated and unfortunate. People don't have to be so defensive about their team's name.

Halladay
07-20-2008, 09:26 PM
The Raptors only got there name because the fans got to choose so they had a big contest for it...It was between the Raptors and Bobcats lol.

ink
07-20-2008, 09:27 PM
The Raptors only got there name because the fans got to choose so they had a big contest for it...It was between the Raptors and Bobcats lol.

But you have to admit it's a regrettable choice. Now we're stuck with it forever.

mfudge
07-20-2008, 09:28 PM
Doesn't really matter. You don't have to be so literal when something is meant to be symbolic. Animal icons are commonly used in sport. I gave you that and it's a true reason. Franchises pick animals to symbolize the character or quality they want the team to have.

and thats whats generic about them. its just a name some rich man came up with because he liked the animal and some character about it that seemed fitting in sports. it has nothing to do with the city. just like the lakers has nothing to do with LA. so whats the difference? that lakers isn't fierce or aggressive while bulls and warriors are? no matter how you try to spin it or slice it... none of those names (warriors, bulls (although proven otherwise in this thread), raptors, and lakers) have NOTHING to do with the city they play in yet you choose to dislike the lakers name because it isn't a quality the team should embody. and that, to me, is just stupid.

im sure the bulls would love to know that theyre named after the animal that is slaughtered constantly at the local slaughterhouse. thats such an AWESOME name to have. its gotta be the "BEST"!!!

kobe2008mvp
07-20-2008, 09:28 PM
lakers

brandonwarne52
07-20-2008, 09:29 PM
lakers

I think you meant to post this in the 'what team do you root for' thread?

Wait, that's every thread for 50+% of this board.

qwestion13
07-20-2008, 09:29 PM
I really liked the Sixer's old logo.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/josophat/Sixers222.jpg

I really liked the Sonics new one. It was very classic looking, simple yet eye-catching. It's a shame they're gone!

mfudge
07-20-2008, 09:41 PM
They moved.

And check some stats, Kubel > Hunter.

Stats:

BA: Hunter-.272 >>> Kubel-.265
HR: Kubel-13 > Hunter-12
RBI: Kubel-46 >> Hunter-43
R: Hunter-54 >>> Kubel-47
SB: Hunter-10 >>>>>> Kubel-0

Hunter is significantly better in each of the stats that he holds an advantage in at the moment... while Kubel holds an almost non-existent 1HR lead and a minuscule 3RBI advantage.

ink
07-20-2008, 09:42 PM
and thats whats generic about them. its just a name some rich man came up with because he liked the animal and some character about it that seemed fitting in sports. it has nothing to do with the city. just like the lakers has nothing to do with LA. so whats the difference? that lakers isn't fierce or aggressive while bulls and warriors are? no matter how you try to spin it or slice it... none of those names (warriors, bulls (although proven otherwise in this thread), raptors, and lakers) have NOTHING to do with the city they play in yet you choose to dislike the lakers name because it isn't a quality the team should embody. and that, to me, is just stupid.

im sure the bulls would love to know that theyre named after the animal that is slaughtered constantly at the local slaughterhouse. thats such an AWESOME name to have. its gotta be the "BEST"!!!

Dude, give it up. The name does not have to be directly linked to the city. It's either about the city, or about what the fans, franchise, or owner thinks best represents the team. That is so obvious I don't know how many times it needs explaining. And ease off on calling people stupid please.

The name Lakers doesn't reflect either the city or a quality of the team. Do the players behave in a Laker-like way, are they fisherman, are they sailors, are they wet?? What exactly does a Laker have in common with basketball in Los Angeles? On the other hand, the name Lakers has EVERYTHING in common with Minnesota, a state with thousands and thousands of lakes.

Just let it go. No one is dissing your team and you don't have to be so defensive. It's just that the NAME isn't as good as some of the other NBA names. Why the obsession with defending every single aspect of your team? Chill out.

ink
07-20-2008, 09:45 PM
I really liked the Sonics new one. It was very classic looking, simple yet eye-catching. It's a shame they're gone!

I agree. And I really liked the name Sonics. Represented the city (Boeing made jets and were based in Seattle) and the sport (flying and speed). I'm really sad to see that franchise leave the NW.

horry1ur
07-20-2008, 10:51 PM
End of discussion anyone on this thread cant really do anything to change a name of team or the logo so we got to deal with but we all have different opinions but majority would root for their team

brandonwarne52
07-20-2008, 10:58 PM
Stats:

BA: Hunter-.272 >>> Kubel-.265
HR: Kubel-13 > Hunter-12
RBI: Kubel-46 >> Hunter-43
R: Hunter-54 >>> Kubel-47
SB: Hunter-10 >>>>>> Kubel-0

Hunter is significantly better in each of the stats that he holds an advantage in at the moment... while Kubel holds an almost non-existent 1HR lead and a minuscule 3RBI advantage.

Stick to basketball junior. Me > You.

brandonwarne52
07-20-2008, 11:04 PM
Kubel OPS+ > Hunter OPS+

vigilantex69
07-20-2008, 11:08 PM
Indiana Pacers!

ink
07-20-2008, 11:09 PM
Indiana Pacers!

I was going to list the Pacers. Considering the history of the Brickyard and the Indianapolis 500, it's a great name.

GspLAL
07-20-2008, 11:23 PM
Im a Laker fan and I dont really like the logo. I like the Rockets and T'Wolves.

mfudge
07-20-2008, 11:41 PM
Kubel OPS+ > Hunter OPS+

their OPS is equal at .795. i dont kno what OPS+ is. must be some obscure stat that means nothing.

RaptorsFanCB4
07-20-2008, 11:45 PM
Miami heat the raptors and the 76ers

Goon.Weezy
07-21-2008, 12:21 AM
back in the day the best team name was the NEW ORLEANS JAZZ....that name is just perfectt

CubsBullsfan28
07-21-2008, 12:41 AM
Best:
Chicago Bulls
Golden state Warriors
Minnisota Timberwolves

worst:
Bobcats (like the logo, but not fond of the name)
nuggets
pacers

richardle9
07-21-2008, 12:54 AM
i learned why some of these teams are called what they are in school

the jazz used to be in new orleans
the lakers used to be somewhere in michigan and thats where the great lakes are
i think the chicago are called the bulls cause there is like a slaughter factory in chicago
rockets = houston is a space city

nwwfmaniac529
07-21-2008, 01:04 AM
haha can we rename this thread homercity.

im different though, my favorite team is the wizards and I'll wholeheartedly admit they have among the worst team names and the absolute worst logo (pending the thunder's new one) in the league.

i had an art teacher when i was in school tell us about how, in the logo making business, the wizards logo would be an example of a terrible one, how they try to have too much going on with the wizard AND making it look like a W.

PS. my favorites are: the ones with historical ties (76ers, Nuggets, etc.)
-the ones that shout out to what the city's known for (Rockets-with NASA and all, Magic-Disney, which basically built the town)
-the regional likes(Pacers,Spurs, Celtics, pistons, etc.)

argo
07-21-2008, 01:04 AM
strictly by uniforms:
knicks, bobcats, celts, pacers, warriors, nets, grizzlies, clips.

brandonwarne52
07-21-2008, 01:13 AM
the lakers used to be somewhere in michigan and thats where the great lakes are

Might want to go back to school.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Lakers

richardle9
07-21-2008, 01:23 AM
Might want to go back to school.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Lakers

damn i need to *****slap my teacher

McPeak92
07-21-2008, 02:49 AM
Best:

1. Timberwolves
2. Bulls
3. Warriors
4. Hornets
5. Grizzlies

Worst:

1. Clippers
2. Nets
3. Pacers
4. Rockets
5. 76ers

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:
BLASPHEMY!!!!!

brandonwarne52
07-21-2008, 02:51 AM
damn i need to *****slap my teacher

The reason I know this is because well, I live in Minneapolis, but I also park in the old armory building for Twins games, and that's where the Lakers played, I am pretty sure.

Shieldsz
07-21-2008, 02:59 AM
I like the rockets and warriors name and logo

arkanian215
07-21-2008, 06:15 AM
Which team has the best name and logo?

Rank each team honestly...

heat have a poor logo honestly. if i had to wear it on a hat, it'd be either pacers, spurs, or 76ers. mavs have the overall best logo. some of the worst... nets, knicks, celtis, lakers, magic, phoenix, seattle, bucks, new orleans (but theyre much improved), orlando, raptors (definitely thought they changed it but they didnt), minnesota, and clippers.

Noreaga
07-21-2008, 06:58 AM
definitely the chicago bulls

chicagowhitesox
07-21-2008, 11:41 AM
Bulls. It's just a great name. Rolls off the tongue. And makes perfect sense will all the bulls in the city of Chicago.

pippsux
07-21-2008, 11:56 AM
The Bulls have the best name and Logo, the worst goes to the Utah Jazz. There is no Jazz in Utah. As for my rockets, I wish they would go back to the yellow and red of the championship years with a slight change.

LA_cabals
07-21-2008, 04:29 PM
Dude, give it up. The name does not have to be directly linked to the city. It's either about the city, or about what the fans, franchise, or owner thinks best represents the team. That is so obvious I don't know how many times it needs explaining. And ease off on calling people stupid please.

The name Lakers doesn't reflect either the city or a quality of the team. Do the players behave in a Laker-like way, are they fisherman, are they sailors, are they wet?? What exactly does a Laker have in common with basketball in Los Angeles? On the other hand, the name Lakers has EVERYTHING in common with Minnesota, a state with thousands and thousands of lakes.

Just let it go. No one is dissing your team and you don't have to be so defensive. It's just that the NAME isn't as good as some of the other NBA names. Why the obsession with defending every single aspect of your team? Chill out.

According to Who or What are those the only two provisions of what a team name should be named after? .......oh I know YOU!

You are defining your own reasons in order to defend your answer, and that doesn't make you any more right than he (mfudge) is when backing argument. He (mfudge) made a solid argument, while you set your own definitions of what a team name represents in order to make your own argument valid.

But, just for arguments sake I'll go ahead and use your own reasoning of what a team's name should be based from to prove otherwise. "or owner thinks best represents the team" well 'then' Lakers owner probably thought that the existing name 'best represents the team' since it has such a rich history in just over a decade of existence.

You would have been better off just saying that you don't think the Lakers have a good name because there aren't too many lakes there than rather make you own definition to base your argument from.

knicks religion
07-21-2008, 09:53 PM
i'm not answering because i don't feel right answering or not answering with my team! but .do any of you know what a knicks are? hm? so you cant judge us . . .but are logo is easy on the eyes and so is our jerseys and madison square garden. =P we win!

Master Mind
07-21-2008, 10:20 PM
i'm not answering because i don't feel right answering or not answering with my team! but .do any of you know what a knicks are? hm? so you cant judge us . . .but are logo is easy on the eyes and so is our jerseys and madison square garden. =P we win!

What's a knick?

cmellofan15
07-21-2008, 10:27 PM
i like the bobcats logo but the name is weak and the mavericks logo

sanfranfan1210
07-21-2008, 10:45 PM
Warriors

Lady's Man
07-21-2008, 10:48 PM
boston celtics is a pretty good representation of that city

ClintBeastwood
07-21-2008, 10:53 PM
As a New Yorker I hate To defend Chicago, but the name Bulls is a reference the Stock Market. Get it Bull Market and Bear Market are stock market terms. Chicago has the second biggest Stock Exchange in the U.S. So it does make sense.

Knickerbockers were the original settlers of New York

ink
07-21-2008, 11:17 PM
According to Who or What are those the only two provisions of what a team name should be named after? .......oh I know YOU!

You are defining your own reasons in order to defend your answer, and that doesn't make you any more right than he (mfudge) is when backing argument. He (mfudge) made a solid argument, while you set your own definitions of what a team name represents in order to make your own argument valid.

But, just for arguments sake I'll go ahead and use your own reasoning of what a team's name should be based from to prove otherwise. "or owner thinks best represents the team" well 'then' Lakers owner probably thought that the existing name 'best represents the team' since it has such a rich history in just over a decade of existence.

You would have been better off just saying that you don't think the Lakers have a good name because there aren't too many lakes there than rather make you own definition to base your argument from.

All I've been saying is that when franchises start up they usually have two reasons behind their names. I've seen several new franchises start up recently and the reasons given BY THE TEAMS is that they are looking for something that represents the area or something that embodies the spirit of the team they want to establish. They are NOT my points. Since they were stated so clearly by the franchises (and not me) I figured they were pretty logical and obvious and most people would see that. It's not very revolutionary and it is definitely not because "I say so". The Lakers franchise is like other franchises that keep the name to honour the tradition. I get that. But even though that happens, I still think the name "Lakers" is more a historical anomaly than a good name. Besides, it's pretty obvious that it's just my opinion.

ink
07-21-2008, 11:19 PM
What's a knick?

The era of the sox I guess because "knicks" is short for knickerbockers, a kind of baggy knee pants. Knickerbocker is also a Dutch surname, and the name honours the Dutch heritage of New York city.

kylem4711
07-22-2008, 12:27 AM
this is the stupidest thread ever.

the lakers logo is the dumbest one too. its just words

GOGOGOMEZ08
07-22-2008, 12:37 AM
T-wolves is the best

Vinny642
07-22-2008, 01:18 AM
MY fav team got a great one even thought they have 3, i like the old charlotte/ old N.O. hornets one, the H one is wack and the new fleur de bee is beasting,
other favortie logos is mavericks wolves, new hawks secondary one, raptors.

WORST- Fakers, Spurs, Cilppers, Pacers, Nets, Knicks