PDA

View Full Version : Should the NBA Create More Canadian Teams?



RaptorsFanCB4
07-19-2008, 07:58 PM
u know i wish the NBA would have a lil more Canadian teams i understand toronto raptor games are aired all over the nation of canada but id wish theres be more canadians teams we used to had the Vancouver grizzlies some how it folded and went to Memphis id love the nba to make more Canadian teams one day maybe like the city of
Toronto (already got)
Edmonton
Calgary
Winnipeg
Ottawa
Montreal (even though quebec isnt known for basketball)
Vancouver ( again make another team Name instead of sending it to memphis!

Well i understand there will be more then 30 nba teams and more teams will have to enter the NBA playoffs and there would be more NBA playoff rounds but imagine if this happened before.

black1605
07-19-2008, 07:59 PM
Vancouver if anywhere

yojoe792
07-19-2008, 08:00 PM
It's an American sport. Honestly, I don't see why Toronto became a team in the first place, this isn't the Olympics, its an AMERICAN LEAGUE. Why not add London or Mexico City if that's the case?

Go ahead and add more, but its just no longer the NBA, IBL maybe.

RaptorsFanCB4
07-19-2008, 08:07 PM
I dont see why basketball is an american sport its a canadian sport it was invented by a canadian canadians have better thinking then americans i dont know why the NBA is an american league..

Laxer38922
07-19-2008, 08:07 PM
Read what he wrote before freaking out, he was saying it is a national league aka NBA. Having teams in Canada make it an international league

RocketsRule
07-19-2008, 08:09 PM
Ya, Vancouver should get one.

And you need to settle down there buddy. No need to go on a cursing spree.

RaptorsFanCB4
07-19-2008, 08:13 PM
dude how is canada and usa NOT the same? whats the darn diffrence between canada and usa THERE THE SAME SAME FOOD SAME PEOPLE SAME EVERYTHING WE LIVE IN THE SAME CONTINENT NORTH AMERICA WERE ALL NORTH AMERICANS CANADIANS ARE ALSO AMERICANS CAUSE THERE IN THE CONTINENT NORTH AMERICA WERE ALL AMERICANS CANADIANS MEXICANS USA EVERYONE COUNTRY!!

cardinals1226
07-19-2008, 08:13 PM
I dont see why basketball is an american sport its a canadian sport it was invented by a canadian canadians have better thinking then americans i dont know why the NBA is an american league..

Better thinking? If that's the case then you're grammar is pathetic for someone who is supposed to have more intelligence than Americans. It's than not then.

As for the NBA being an American league, where was it created? That's right, in America. So why in the world would it not be considered an America basketball league? Because Toronto is a team doesn't mean it's international. Please.

By the way, James Naismith was also Scottish and Cuban. does that mean the NBA is communist? Hmm... :rolleyes:

Giaps
07-19-2008, 08:17 PM
Baby tirades are amusing.

cardinals1226
07-19-2008, 08:17 PM
dude how is canada and usa NOT the same? whats the darn diffrence between canada and usa THERE THE SAME SAME FOOD SAME PEOPLE SAME EVERYTHING WE LIVE IN THE SAME CONTINENT NORTH AMERICA WERE ALL NORTH AMERICANS CANADIANS ARE ALSO AMERICANS CAUSE THERE IN THE CONTINENT NORTH AMERICA WERE ALL AMERICANS CANADIANS MEXICANS USA EVERYONE COUNTRY!!

For one, Canada was a French providence for years, the U.S. was British so the original culture was completely different. Canada has accepted American culture is the reason why they are so similar. Secondly, Canada is socialist, America is republic. Canadian citizens speak English and French, America speaks English mostly. America was a country for nearly 150 years before Canada the country was created. If you're going to go on a tirade, why don't you try to do it in a sensable way that doesn't make you look like a fool.

cardinals1226
07-19-2008, 08:18 PM
Dude Are U Mentally Retarted?? Hes Not Cuban Ok Ur Freakin Crazy He Was Canadian He Grew Up In Canada He Was Borin In Canada U Idiot


James A. Naismith (November 6, 1861 November 28, 1939) was a Scottish-Cuban-Canadian who invented the sport of basketball and was the first to introduce the use of a helmet in American football.

He was born in Ramsay township, near Almonte, Ontario, Canada, the eldest son of Scottish immigrants, John Naismith and Margaret Young who had arrived in the area in 1851 and worked in the mining industry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Naismith

:rolleyes: Shut up before you get banned.

torontosports10
07-19-2008, 08:25 PM
Please excuse this douche bag of a toronto fan he has been banned numerous times and keeps coming back on new account

With that said i would love to see a team in Western Canada. Vancouver would be nice but they did that once and the owner got out and moved. However they had better attendance then some teams going now so i think it could work. AND it would make a good riverary for Toronto and give us canadian fans 2 teams to get excited about.

And with that said i dont see another team coming to Canada any time soon.

cardinals1226
07-19-2008, 08:26 PM
Please excuse this douche bag of a toronto fan he has been banned numerous times and keeps coming back on new aco*****.

With that said i would love to see a team in Western Canada. Vancouver would be nice but they did that once and the owner got out and moved. However they had better attendance then some teams going now so i think it could work. AND it would make a good riverary for Toronto and give us canadian fans 2 teams to get excited about.

And with that said i dont see another team coming to Canada any time soon.

aha Wow. :smoking:

raptorsbball
07-19-2008, 08:46 PM
No other Canadian city can support NBA basketball. Montreal couldn't support a baseball team, let alone a basketball team. Vancouver tried an NBA team and failed. Sports franchises make their money on TV rights and TV rights to Canadian basketball are a joke. The Raptors let CBC air games for FREE, that's how few people watch basketball on TV in Canada.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
07-19-2008, 08:48 PM
I am not sure after Vancouver I don't think it would work out.

vandoc
07-19-2008, 09:03 PM
It must be noted that the NBA did indeed work in Vancouver, but the new owner bought the team with the intention of moving it (very similar to the situation in Seattle). Attendance-wise, Memphis has still not met the same amount of season-ticket holders that the team had in Vancouver. It was a poorly managed team (thanks Stu Jackson) with below-average talent, yet the fans still came out to see a team that would lose in the NBADL. If local ownership can be found, Vancouver can be an ideal location for an NBA team.
Aside from the cross-country rivalry with Toronto, Vancouver has a healthy competition with its Pacific Northwest cousins Portland and Seattle (if they get another team someday). Overall, it is NBA-ready, with a stadium and a fairly forgiving fan base.

PostYourEyes
07-19-2008, 09:12 PM
Of Course THEY Should!! Calgary, Vancouver, Edmonton!!

dre1990
07-19-2008, 09:14 PM
no, we need some in st. louis, seattle, and baltimore 1st

PostYourEyes
07-19-2008, 09:16 PM
I dont see why basketball is an american sport its a canadian sport it was invented by a canadian canadians have better thinking then americans i dont know why the NBA is an american league..

Yeah that's right. It was made by James Naismith.

PostYourEyes
07-19-2008, 09:21 PM
Please excuse this douche bag of a toronto fan he has been banned numerous times and keeps coming back on new aco*****.

With that said i would love to see a team in Western Canada. Vancouver would be nice but they did that once and the owner got out and moved. However they had better attendance then some teams going now so i think it could work. AND it would make a good riverary for Toronto and give us canadian fans 2 teams to get excited about.

And with that said i dont see another team coming to Canada any time soon.

well put together!

torontosports10
07-19-2008, 09:29 PM
no, we need some in st. louis, seattle, and baltimore 1st

What? Seattle just lost a team cause of bad fan base. And why shoujld St.Louis and Baltimore get one before a Canadian team?

_Sn1P3r_
07-19-2008, 09:47 PM
Put one in Montreal. Then they could have a french team name or something.

urban legend
07-19-2008, 09:55 PM
Put one in Montreal. Then they could have a french team name or something.

Im canadian and would love to have another team here in Canada. Most perferrably in Vancouver again.... but what does having a french name have anything to do with the augrument for a team in Canada?

sanfranfan1210
07-21-2008, 10:51 PM
No

daleja424
07-21-2008, 10:53 PM
Yes. Canadians support the Raptors better then 21 teams that play in the US...why not give them another team or two?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/attendance

kri5714n
07-21-2008, 11:04 PM
Why did they take vancouver away anyways? I heard it was cuz they didnt have a lot of fans there. If it didn't work out there there shouldn't be any other team in Canada. I can't imagine a team anywhere else in Canada even though it was invented here. I don't know why it's all about hockey here.

yojoe792
07-21-2008, 11:05 PM
I just don't see how you can keep adding non-American teams and continue to call it the NATIONAL Basketball Association. If league officials want to add some international teams and think it will increase interest and profits, they can go ahead, thats great. But as it stands, the NBA is an American league, not the world cup or anything of that sort.

daleja424
07-21-2008, 11:05 PM
Why did they take vancouver away anyways? I heard it was cuz they didnt have a lot of fans there. If it didn't work out there there shouldn't be any other team in Canada. I can't imagine a team anywhere else in Canada even though it was invented here. I don't know why it's all about hockey here.

Montreal??!?? :confused::confused::confused:

daleja424
07-21-2008, 11:06 PM
I just don't see how you can keep adding non-American teams and continue to call it the NATIONAL Basketball Association. If league officials want to add some international teams and think it will increase interest and profits, they can go ahead, thats great. But as it stands, the NBA is an American league, not the world cup or anything of that sort.

Its a business. If you put a team in PR, or Mex, or Canada...you have a whole countries market open up to you...

argo
07-22-2008, 03:32 AM
my bike is cooler than your bike

Vancouver - they had terrible management last time around, but I think they've got the fans to support a team in the NBA/ IBL/ WFC

IMO, can't see a team doing well in Montreal... similar schedule to hockey- the french love their Habitants and poutine (and lovely exotic dancers i might add!).
BBall works in Toronto because the Leafs have sucked for so long (and they've deported all the best erotic entertainers). The smart fans have given upon the Leafs, but then we realized the Raptors are owned by the same people so it's just a matter of time.
But as long as Colangelo's steering the ship we should be okay.
I hope.

Beno7500
07-22-2008, 03:38 AM
Oh hell no. There are already too many teams in Canada.

niners395
07-22-2008, 04:47 AM
It's an American sport.


That doesnt make any sense. Basketball is no doubt an international sport. Some of the league's best players are foreign, and every team in the league is scouting more and more in other countries look for a hidden gem. Anyways, canada isn't even its own country, its basically just a territory for the us. Why do u think on every phone company tv commercial they always say free calling to Puerto Rico and canada?

Master P
07-22-2008, 05:04 AM
Canada is not a territory of the US. If we were it'd definately have been better for the US and the World 4 and 8 years ago because all 30 million of us would not have voted for Bush.

The reason Toronto and Vancouver were given franchises before mexico was a geographical, political, and economic decision. I think the geographical is very important. Frankly I am not a supporter of Stern's aspirations to expand the NBA to Europe, it's just too far.

If the nba does move franchises around Seattle is first. Stern was a bit of a dick on that one, but he basically told Seattle that if they intend to use public financing for a new football stadium, baseball stadium, cutting-edge public library, amazing sculpture park, then they better be willing to help the sonics too. they didn't so he didn't hesitate to take the team away.

i would love to see vancouver get a team back, but im not holding my breathe. baltimore already basically has the wizards, not that they dont have the population to support another team. st. louis sucks. the people there would steal the stadium between drive-by shootings.

heyman321
07-22-2008, 05:20 AM
I just don't see how you can keep adding non-American teams and continue to call it the NATIONAL Basketball Association. If league officials want to add some international teams and think it will increase interest and profits, they can go ahead, thats great. But as it stands, the NBA is an American league, not the world cup or anything of that sort.

Have you not seen the other major sports leagues add Canadian teams? Please, "national" barely means a single country in the four major sports leagues. It's a business. The MLB has the Blue Jays and formerly the Expos, the NHL has several Canadian and American teams, and the NFL is even considering moving the Buffalo Bills to Toronto. The fact is, if there is enough of a fan base for people to attend the games and watch on TV, that city would get a team. Hence why hockey is so successful in Canada as are the Raptors and Jays (because Toronto as the biggest population in Canada and can support sports franchises). Other cities in Canada just simply can't, aka Montreal Expos. Although I'm not completely sure why the Grizzlies were relocated :confused: Plus, I might add you sound way too patriotic.

Tblaze
07-22-2008, 06:34 AM
It's an American sport. Honestly, I don't see why Toronto became a team in the first place, this isn't the Olympics, its an AMERICAN LEAGUE. Why not add London or Mexico City if that's the case?

Go ahead and add more, but its just no longer the NBA, IBL maybe.

then why is the team winning the playoffs called world champions if it's an american sport?

:)

Mile High Champ
07-22-2008, 08:38 AM
It's an American sport. Honestly, I don't see why Toronto became a team in the first place, this isn't the Olympics, its an AMERICAN LEAGUE. Why not add London or Mexico City if that's the case?

Go ahead and add more, but its just no longer the NBA, IBL maybe.

Toronto is a much more deserving city than many of the cities that currently have nba franchise. Toronto with New York, LA and Chicago represent the biggest markets for any sports franchise. Its a reality, Toronto of course should always have a team.

Mile High Champ
07-22-2008, 08:41 AM
I just don't see how you can keep adding non-American teams and continue to call it the NATIONAL Basketball Association. If league officials want to add some international teams and think it will increase interest and profits, they can go ahead, thats great. But as it stands, the NBA is an American league, not the world cup or anything of that sort.

How much ignorance truly are you capable of bringing to the table. Its name, not a rule, The NBA goes where the money is and where the fans are. Its that simple, I dont see any other cities in the US as deserving of an NBA city except maybe St. Louis but even that im not even sure of.

ewing
07-22-2008, 08:43 AM
u know i wish the NBA would have a lil more Canadian teams i understand toronto raptor games are aired all over the nation of canada but id wish theres be more canadians teams we used to had the Vancouver grizzlies some how it folded and went to Memphis id love the nba to make more Canadian teams one day maybe like the city of
Toronto (already got)
Edmonton
Calgary
Winnipeg
Ottawa
Montreal (even though quebec isnt known for basketball)
Vancouver ( again make another team Name instead of sending it to memphis!

Well i understand there will be more then 30 nba teams and more teams will have to enter the NBA playoffs and there would be more NBA playoff rounds but imagine if this happened before.



I want 50 teams. With no more then 1 good player per team. I want Ty Lue to clearly qualify as a starting PG and Slava Medvedenko to be the best bench player in the league

pebloemer
07-22-2008, 08:44 AM
I don't buy the "American Sport" argument for many of the reasons listed above.

Toronto: Already has a team, working very well.
Winnepeg: Can't even hold a hockey team in a hockey country, why would htey be able to hold a basketball one?
Montreal: Third biggest in size behind Vancouver and Toronto but the Expos just left there for lack of attendance. I am not sure they would embrace the game of basketball, but who knows.
Ottawa: Can hardly hold a CFL team . . . enough said.
Calgary/Edmonton: Neither are big markets. I would be skeptical about the ability to hold an NBA team.
Vancouver: Seemed to work alright while they were here. If Canada gets another NBA team, the only place I could see it going to is back in Vancouver.

And that sums up your big cities. I expect that with the exception of Vancouver, Toronto would probably be able to support a second team better than all the other options in Canada would be able to support a first team.

Whether a city can hold a team, as others have discussed is economical and geographical. Canada is geographically perfectly fine to be involved in the NBA. We just don't have enough big cities or national passion for basketball yet. If it spread more to Canada it would be in te very distant future after Canadians have shown they can support a team in Vancouver, then possibly Montreal, but I would be skeptical about Montreal. I you can't get the fan base, you can't run the team.

To the maker of this thread: I have been frustrated with some of you previous threads as they show very little insight and just seem to be homer threads or piss peoeple off. This is actually a decent thread. If you carry yourself better when speaking to people you may actually make a point or too.