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bosh4mvp
07-18-2008, 03:12 PM
This guy seems like he might have the potential to make the team. Not sure if he is from Alabama originally but he went to school there. Could the raps get another steal from Alabama? 6'11 240 averaging 10 points, 7 boards and 3.3 blocks in 24 minutes. I could see him replacing humpries. Humpries tries to be the go to guy when he is out there. Agressiveness is one thing but he goes overboard.

pebloemer
07-18-2008, 03:23 PM
This guy seems like he might have the potential to make the team. Not sure if he is from Alabama originally but he went to school there. Could the raps get another steal from Alabama? 6'11 240 averaging 10 points, 7 boards and 3.3 blocks in 24 minutes. I could see him replacing humpries. Humpries tries to be the go to guy when he is out there. Agressiveness is one thing but he goes overboard.

I wouldn't mind that, he seems ot have played well in summer league (really all I know of him is statistics from summer league). I think BC was moving in the direction of signing a third PG though not a big? We'll see which route he goes.

carruthers32
07-18-2008, 05:39 PM
We could probably sign both CJ Giles and John Lucas Jr.

Ragun
07-18-2008, 06:02 PM
He seems very solid.

Ragun
07-18-2008, 06:02 PM
He seems very solid.

Raptors27
07-18-2008, 07:01 PM
Yeah I know what you mean when Humphries get on the court. He feels like he is the most talented player there and must have the ball in his hands in every posession. Almost every time I seen him on the court he would get the ball and either drive or take those ugly freethrow line jumpers lol.

_Sn1P3r_
07-18-2008, 07:04 PM
He seems very solid.

I agree. He has the potential to replace Humphries in the rotation.

bosh4mvp
07-18-2008, 10:14 PM
We could probably sign both CJ Giles and John Lucas Jr.

I hope we dont sign lucas...itd be kinda pointless. We have calderon and Ukic and hopefully we sign a seasoned vet for league minimum or something. Lucas is shooting 28% from the field against weak competition

_Sn1P3r_
07-18-2008, 10:19 PM
I hope we dont sign lucas...itd be kinda pointless. We have calderon and Ukic and hopefully we sign a seasoned vet for league minimum or something. Lucas is shooting 28% from the field against weak competition

Ew 28%.

Nwsports22
07-18-2008, 10:35 PM
This guy seems like he might have the potential to make the team. Not sure if he is from Alabama originally but he went to school there. Could the raps get another steal from Alabama? 6'11 240 averaging 10 points, 7 boards and 3.3 blocks in 24 minutes. I could see him replacing humpries. Humpries tries to be the go to guy when he is out there. Agressiveness is one thing but he goes overboard.

cj giles went to kansas and was kicked off the team, then he went to orgeon state and was kicked off the team there too. hes not from alabama hes from seattle. he played at rainer beach. i wouldnt pick him up if i were you guys

Bob_at_york
07-18-2008, 10:57 PM
Giles got no minutes in tonight's summer league game.

Raptors27
07-18-2008, 11:04 PM
Lucas playes well tonight!

Bob_at_york
07-19-2008, 10:21 AM
I just read somewhere that Giles signed with the Hornets.

B2B
07-19-2008, 10:49 AM
I hope we dont sign lucas...itd be kinda pointless. We have calderon and Ukic and hopefully we sign a seasoned vet for league minimum or something. Lucas is shooting 28% from the field against weak competition

Raps r looking at Bobby Brown

B2B
07-19-2008, 10:58 AM
Bobby Brown, 15 points, 8 assists, 3 turnovers, 7/12 FG, 1/2 3PFG

Brown continues to show well here, and looks to have an outside shot at making an NBA roster going into the season. The guard again displayed top-level athleticism, particularly on two breakaway dunks that drew some big cheers from the crowd. In the half-court, he showed both the ability to shoot the three pointer and find his teammates on the drive. He's not a true point guard, but has solid enough vision to play a third point type of role. Defensively, his lack of bulk may hurt him at the NBA level. Brown has continued to turn a lot of head among the NBA scouts we've talked to this week, and it will be interesting to see where he ends up for training camp.

Height 6'2"
Weight 170lbs
Position PG/SG
Age 23


Bobby Brown NBA Draft Scouting Report

Strengths
Brown is an excellent athlete who possesses most of the physical attributes and skills NBA teams look for in a backup point guard. He doesnít have great size at around 6 feet, but he makes up for that to a certain extent with his long arms and sheer explosiveness. He has great quickness and body control, which allows him to create his own shot with ease, get to the rim and finish. Heís extremely tough to stay in front of as he has terrific footwork and all the confidence in the world in his offensive ability.

Brown has a very smooth and polished offensive game and is prone to erupt for effortless looking scoring outbursts in very short spans. His ball-handling skills are very good, having all the skills needed to create space for himself offensively and get his man off balance and either create shots for himself or for his teammates if the defense collapses. He has all the little tricks and gimmicks that all great ball-handlers do, including the change of pace dribble, hesitation moves, a strong crossover, between the legs, behind the back, the reverse dribble, the pull-back and others. He changes gears in the blink of an eye, stopping on a dime and then just exploding past his man using crafty head and body fakes or just with his pure quickness. If the lane isnít there he can use his footwork to come to an immediate halt and then jump backwards purposefully to knock down the mid-range jumper. He likes to skip through the lane horizontally to avoid contact, showing plenty of flash and creativity finishing in the lane; sometimes with a one-handed floater/runner ala Nick Van Exel.

Brown is a prolific 3-point shooter, possessing superb footwork and body control, a high and quick release on his jump shot, deep range and great elevation to get his shot off almost whenever he pleasesówhich is both a blessing and a curse. He makes tough contested shots look easy; fading away, going either left or right, squaring his shoulders, maintaining his balance and knocking down tough shots even in very tight spaces.

As a point guard Brown is at his best in transition, as he loves to push the tempo and is absolutely a blur in the open floor. He has a good feel for making difficult passes, whether in transition, in half-court sets in tight spaces or with a bullet-pass down the floor to a streaking teammate. Heís very flashy with the ball but sometimes tries to do too much to try and please the crowd.

On the other end of the floor Brown has all the tools in the world except for ideal height to be a very good defender if he can put it all together. His quickness, footwork and length make him a very good pressure defender when he puts his mind to it, which unfortunately he does not on a consistent basis. Still, he shows superb lateral movement at times gliding to stay in front of his man and has the quickness, hands and anticipation skills to get in the passing lanes and ignite the fast break.

Weaknesses
Brown is a classic late-bloomer who is still very much coming into his own as a player. He is missing a lot of intangibles that most star players hopefully pick up in high school, but he never did.

The first concern would be his size. His 6-1 listing might be an inch generous, and heís a fairly skinny player on top of that. Heíll never be a power guard with his frame and will almost certainly take a beating night after night with his style of play in the league. Brown struggles fighting through screens defensively and might be overpowered by bigger, stronger guards who want to impose their will on him. At times he lacks the strength to finish at the basket, not showing the greatest touch in the world and missing a few gimmees almost every game. Itís unclear whether heíll be able to finish as effectively in the NBA against bigger, longer, more athletic and much meaner opponents.

To counter that, heíll have to improve his in-between game, especially in terms of pulling up off the dribble from 16-18 feet. He shows terrific sparks of this already, but needs to continue to hone this part of his game to help his offensive game translate to the NBA effectively, as it might end up being his bread and butter.

Brown is not a pure PG and does not even play the position full-time for his team. His playmaking skills can be questionable at times, especially in terms of controlling the tempo of his team, running half-court sets and making his teammates better. Heís not much of a floor general, showing poor leadership skills and often concerning body language, struggling to direct his teammates to do what they need to do and getting frustrated when they donít.

Part of the reason for this is the fact that he plays for a terrible team that has very few legit offensive options besides him. Teams know that if they manage to shut him down, their chances of winning increase exponentially. He gets frustrated with his teammates and openly shows in on the court, throwing his hands in the air when they mess up or clapping his hands incessantly asking for the ball. Heís a bit of a one man show in his conference at times, rushing shots early in the offense and displaying poor shot-selection, being very turnover prone and making unforced errors that stem from a lack of concentration. He is a big time player with a small school mentality, so you have to wonder how quickly he will be able to adapt to having 4 players around him at all times who are just as good as him if not a lot better. This is really not a question we can answer until he actually plays in the NBA, and there will probably be an adjustment period. To his credit we can say that he does not look like a selfish me-first player who is just trying to rack up stats, there are definitely some more variables beyond that.

Brown can be a little too nonchalant at times, only really turning it on for short stretches rather than the full 40 minutes, being inconsistent from game to game and half to half, and not always playing with a ton of intensity. He doesnít always look 100% motivated, as if heís a bit bored with the opposition he goes up against even though he isnít incredibly dominant at the Big West conference level. This especially shows up on the defensive end, where he is prone to turn it on and off depending on how he is playing and who he is going up against.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Bobby-Brown-NBA-Draft-Scouting-Report-2864/

Raptors27
07-19-2008, 11:20 AM
Nice, where is he playing now or on what summer league team?

B2B
07-19-2008, 11:25 AM
Nice, where is he playing now or on what summer league team?

Charlotte

Raptors27
07-19-2008, 11:33 AM
^^ You mean New Orleans? lol

B2B
07-19-2008, 11:35 AM
^^ You mean New Orleans? lol

Yes ^ My mistake

Bobby Brown (Cal State-Fullerton): The all-time leading scorer in his school’s history, the 6-1 point guard went undrafted in 2007.


Bobby Brown: 20 Points, 6-14 FG, 1-4 3FG, 7-8 FT, 5 Rebounds, 5 Assists, 1 Steal, 6 Fouls

Today, Brown offered scouts a reminder of just how good he can be when the game gets out of control. He had a very hard time scoring and running the show in the first half, but didn’t turn the ball over all the much. In the second, he turned things on, using the frantic pace of the game to get a handful of deflections leading to run outs resulting in nice alley oop passes, multiple trips to the line, and a handful of lay ups. He even managed to jump over a defender on his way to missed dunk that he finished with two free throws. Unlike last Summer League, Brown struggled mightily from the outside today, looking pretty tentative when given space to pull the trigger from the perimeter. Still, he showed just how unbelievably talented he is when considering his terrific combination of size and athleticism, and is certainly a guy NBA scouts are keeping close tabs on.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Las-Vegas-Summer-League-Day-Three-2962/

nstojic
07-19-2008, 03:02 PM
I just read somewhere that Giles signed with the Hornets.

that was CJ Miles from the Jazz... hornets signed him to an offer sheet of 4/$15mil... Jazz have the 7 days to match...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2778

nstojic
07-19-2008, 03:09 PM
Giles's old nbadraft.net profile

http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/cjgiles.html

nstojic
07-19-2008, 03:11 PM
Brown's old nbadraft.net profile

http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/bobbybrown.html

Bob_at_york
07-19-2008, 04:14 PM
that was CJ Miles from the Jazz... hornets signed him to an offer sheet of 4/$15mil... Jazz have the 7 days to match...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2778

i just saw a headline in the sonics forum. My bad.

Raptors27
07-21-2008, 10:38 AM
It's either Brown or Lucas. Lucas has been playing some pretty good basketball as of late, but Brown seems more like the 3rd point gaurd we need because is roko is struggling i think he could handle being backup.

PostYourEyes
07-21-2008, 07:09 PM
i think they should go brown.

Denverb2b
07-22-2008, 01:11 PM
Giles reminds me alot of a young Camby, same frame, same athelticism, same aggressiveness on defense, boards, blocks. The only problem is he has an attitude problem and very immature.

I would give the kid a shot but with our frontcourt it would be tough to get minutes.