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ChiTownsFinest
07-18-2008, 03:00 PM
PROJECTED 2011
LINEUP
Catcher A.J. Pierzynski
First Base Paul Konerko
Second Base Chris Getz
Third Base Joe Crede
Shortstop Orlando Cabrera
Left Field Josh Fields
Center Field Nick Swisher
Right Field Carlos Quentin
Designated Hitter Jermaine Dye
No. 1 Starter Mark Buehrle
No. 2 Starter Javier Vazquez
No. 3 Starter Aaron Poreda
No. 4 Starter John Danks
No. 5 Starter Lance Broadway
Closer Bobby Jenks



-http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/organization-top-10-prospects/2008/265458.html

i thought this was interesting and i wanted to know what you guys thought of this.

Southsideheat
07-18-2008, 03:04 PM
wow, i don't get most of it.

where is alexie?
where is floyd?
Jd still here?
OC still here?
Crede still here?

This must have been made at the beginning of the season.

DaSox_05
07-18-2008, 03:11 PM
Its terrible....

Konerko will be gone

Beckham will be on the team by then

Cabrera will be gone

Alexei Ramirez will either be at SS, 2B and CF

Where is Gavin Floyd?

Fields or Crede will be gone.

WhiteSoxLifer
07-18-2008, 03:12 PM
The Fields in LF thing is over!!! People have to let it go.

whitesoxfan83
07-18-2008, 03:15 PM
wow, i don't get most of it.

where is alexie?
where is floyd?
Jd still here?
OC still here?
Crede still here?

This must have been made at the beginning of the season.

yea this doesnt seem right at all. AJ still here too? dam thats a while.


my best guess...

C TBD
1B Swisher
2B Beckham
3B Fields
SS Ramirez
RF TBD
CF Shelby
LF Quentin
DH TBD

SP 1 Buehrle
SP 2 Danks
SP 3 Broadway
SP 4 Poreda
SP 5 Floyd

CL Jon Link R
SU Logan L
SU Linebrink R
LR Masset R
LR Russell R
LR Wasserman R
MR Richard L

an educated guess, to be honest theres no one anywhere that can determine this even close to accurate.

think about our team july 2005, think about our team july 2008.

exactly.

whitesoxfan83
07-18-2008, 03:16 PM
The Fields in LF thing is over!!! People have to let it go.

i think this list was prob made in january.

zzConflict
07-18-2008, 03:19 PM
yea this doesnt seem right at all. AJ still here too? dam thats a while.


my best guess...

C TBD
1B Swisher
2B Beckham
3B Fields
SS Ramirez
RF TBD
CF Shelby
LF Quentin
DH TBD

SP 1 Buehrle
SP 2 Danks
SP 3 Broadway
SP 4 Poreda
SP 5 Floyd

CL Jon Link R
SU Logan L
SU Linebrink R
LR Masset R
LR Russell R
LR Wasserman R
MR Richard L

an educated guess, to be honest theres no one anywhere that can determine this even close to accurate.

think about our team july 2005, think about our team july 2008.

exactly.
It was done before the season, we didn't have Alexei or Beckham at the time, they can't just leave things as TBD and can't assume free agent comings or goings, hence AJ, Dye and Paulie still being on there.

whitesoxfan83
07-18-2008, 03:21 PM
It was done before the season, we didn't have Alexei or Beckham at the time, they can't just leave things as TBD and can't assume free agent comings or goings, hence AJ, Dye and Paulie still being on there.

that makes sense. TBD would be a nice way out....

except then the entire lineup would be that way.

u have a better understanding of the farm than anyone zz any ideas what you would expect the lineup to be in 2011?

zzConflict
07-18-2008, 04:37 PM
C- TBD, will have to be addressed via trade or draft at some point
1B- Nicky Swisher
2B- Gordon Beckham (assuming he signs)
3B- Josh Fields
SS- Sexei Alexei
LF- John Shelby III
CF- Jordan Danks (love Danks, this is obviously assuming he signs, if he doesn't replace with Kent Gerst)
RF- Carlos Quentin
DH- Brandon Allen (unless Dye or Paulie are still around and producing. Still not fully convinced on Allen but he's really the only bat that projects at DH, Silverio not withstanding as he's impossible to project at this point.)

SP- John Danks
SP- Mark Buehrle
SP- Aaron Poreda
SP- Gavin Floyd
SP- Clayton Richard (he has to be above Broadway right about now)

CL- Jenks
Then there are lots of intruiging bullpen arms such as Kanekoa Texeira, Brian Omogrosso, John Link, Henry Mabee as well as those already up (Logan, Masset, Russell etc.)

It's really impossible and pretty pointless to try and predict these things when you have a GM like Mr. Williams, but still this would be my effort and it is actually pretty encouraging that the only position there doesn't appear to be a long term option for is catcher. We have some nice middle infield depth with those already mentioned plus Richar, Getz, Eduardo Escobar (possibly) and Silverio.

Just trying to think now if I missed anyone.

Scoopie2005
07-18-2008, 06:00 PM
Has Beckham ever played 2nd base? I know it's alexei's best position, but would they switch? It can't be that hard... I believe they are interchangeable. The only sure things I see right now in 2011 are:

Swisher 1B
Beckham/Ramirez 2b/ss
Quentin Lf
You never know with pitchers, but I'm sure Danks and Floyd will be around, along with Richard and Poreda. Other guys in the system could be up, such as Broadway, although he could be traded eventually. Masset and Russell are along the same lines.

Also, why do people say our minor league system is so bad? It's not like all of them come up at the same time.

Swish-Cab-Ob
07-18-2008, 06:05 PM
I still have a weird feeling that Cabrera will be back next year.

Swish-Cab-Ob
07-18-2008, 06:07 PM
Obviously we should start ignoring all rumors, because there won't be any trades or free agents involving us until at least 2011...I hate these lists, the Sun-Times said last year that Soriano would also be on the White Sox along with Orlando Hudson in 2010 or something, its fun to think, but just stupid.

whitesoxfan83
07-18-2008, 06:14 PM
I still have a weird feeling that Cabrera will be back next year.

so do i.

Swish-Cab-Ob
07-18-2008, 06:18 PM
Mine, assuming we make a trade or two...And our rotation will definatley not look like that.

C- ???
1B- Nick Swisher
2B- Gordon Beckham
SS- Juan Silverio
3B- Josh Fields
LF- Carlos Quentin
CF- Alexei Ramirez
RF-???
DH- Jermaine Dye

SP- John Danks
SP- Gavin Floyd
SP- Aaron Poreda
SP- Mark Buehrle
SP- Lance Broadway

CL- Bobby Jenks

sager729
07-18-2008, 08:38 PM
C- TBD, will have to be addressed via trade or draft at some point
1B- Nicky Swisher
2B- Gordon Beckham (assuming he signs)
3B- Josh Fields
SS- Sexei Alexei
LF- John Shelby III
CF- Jordan Danks (love Danks, this is obviously assuming he signs, if he doesn't replace with Kent Gerst)
RF- Carlos Quentin
DH- Brandon Allen (unless Dye or Paulie are still around and producing. Still not fully convinced on Allen but he's really the only bat that projects at DH, Silverio not withstanding as he's impossible to project at this point.)

SP- John Danks
SP- Mark Buehrle
SP- Aaron Poreda
SP- Gavin Floyd
SP- Clayton Richard (he has to be above Broadway right about now)

CL- Jenks
Then there are lots of intruiging bullpen arms such as Kanekoa Texeira, Brian Omogrosso, John Link, Henry Mabee as well as those already up (Logan, Masset, Russell etc.)

It's really impossible and pretty pointless to try and predict these things when you have a GM like Mr. Williams, but still this would be my effort and it is actually pretty encouraging that the only position there doesn't appear to be a long term option for is catcher. We have some nice middle infield depth with those already mentioned plus Richar, Getz, Eduardo Escobar (possibly) and Silverio.

Just trying to think now if I missed anyone.

This is probably the one I like the best. This team is very young though and you know that KW and Ozzie like veterans on their team.

chicagowhitesox
07-18-2008, 11:21 PM
Mine, assuming we make a trade or two...And our rotation will definatley not look like that.

C- ???
1B- Nick Swisher
2B- Gordon Beckham
SS- Juan Silverio
3B- Josh Fields
LF- Carlos Quentin
CF- Alexei Ramirez
RF-???
DH- Jermaine Dye

SP- John Danks
SP- Gavin Floyd
SP- Aaron Poreda
SP- Mark Buehrle
SP- Lance Broadway

CL- Bobby Jenks

I like the looks of that, but with JD in right and Brandon Allen at DH.

DaBullsFan
07-18-2008, 11:59 PM
im really excited about r future team i think we have all the right things going for us to be a very good team for the upcoming years we have sso many options at some positions to get us a vet catcher or outfielder plus i think r pitching could be sick

coconut
07-19-2008, 09:36 AM
I don't think our team will look anything like that in 2011.
Take a look at our 2003 team and see if you could have projected this years team.

1B..Konerko
2B..Alomar---gone
SS...Valentin...gone
3B..Crede...soon gone??
C..Alomar/Olivo...gone&gone
LF..Lee/Everette....gone & gone
CF...Rowand...gone
RF..Ordonez...gone
DH..Thomas....gone


Starters:
Buehrle
Colon...gone
Garland...gone
Loaiza...gone & back
Wright...gone


Closers:
Koch...good grief
Gordon...gone




It would have been pretty hard to project from that.

My guess is only Ramirez, Danks,Swisher, Quentin & Floyd will be on our 2011 team.

Getz,Fields & Beckham should be there too, but, trades change things quickly.

Rizzorj
07-19-2008, 09:53 AM
What a bunch of crap....I'm going to go project the Nationals 2011 lineup.

SOX VICTORY
07-19-2008, 11:22 AM
What a bunch of crap....I'm going to go project the Nationals 2011 lineup.

Agreed this kinda stuff is just absurd, but to each his own. In the meantime i'll just continue to enjoy the 2008 season, cause that's what's happening now.

chisoxfan620
07-19-2008, 02:34 PM
PROJECTED 2011
LINEUP
Catcher A.J. Pierzynski
First Base Paul Konerko
Second Base Chris Getz
Third Base Joe Crede
Shortstop Orlando Cabrera
Left Field Josh Fields
Center Field Nick Swisher
Right Field Carlos Quentin
Designated Hitter Jermaine Dye
No. 1 Starter Mark Buehrle
No. 2 Starter Javier Vazquez
No. 3 Starter Aaron Poreda
No. 4 Starter John Danks
No. 5 Starter Lance Broadway
Closer Bobby Jenks



-http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/organization-top-10-prospects/2008/265458.html

i thought this was interesting and i wanted to know what you guys thought of this.

sorry man but that's just awful...like painful awful

chisox311
07-19-2008, 04:57 PM
Its terrible....

Konerko will be gone

Beckham will be on the team by then

Cabrera will be gone

Alexei Ramirez will either be at SS, 2B and CF

Where is Gavin Floyd?

Fields or Crede will be gone.
yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.