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-Lavigne43-
07-18-2008, 02:58 PM
Boston Red Sox (57-40) vs Los Angeles Angels (57-38)


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Location: Angel Stadium (http://losangeles.angels.mlb.com/ana/ballpark/index.jsp)


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Game 1

Friday, July 18 - 10:05 ET



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BOS: RHP Clay Buchholz (2-3, 5.53) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/buchhcl01.shtml) vs LAA: RHP Jon Lackey (6-2, 2.46) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/lackejo01.shtml)


Red Sox: Buchholz returned to the Red Sox rotation for the first time in two months on July 11, and it certainly wasn't the most pristine outing of his career. Buchholz lasted just five innings, allowing four runs and walking five. But he did look awfully strong at times, striking out the side in the third and finishing with six strikeouts overall.



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Angels: Lackey didn't head into the All-Star break with any positive momentum. In his most recent start, the righty allowed a season-high six earned runs and lasted a season-low 5 2/3 innings. After missing the first month and a half of the year with a strained triceps, Lackey made quality starts in his first nine outings. But in his past two appearances, he's allowed 11 earned runs and seen his ERA jump from 1.44 to 2.46.



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Game 2

Saturday, July 19 - 3:55 ET



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BOS: RHP Josh Beckett (9-5, 3.94) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/beckejo02.shtml) vs LAA: RHP Jon Garland (8-6, 4.20) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/garlajo01.shtml)



Red Sox: Beckett's last start was a wild affair between the Sox and Twins, one in which Beckett left in the sixth with a pitch count at 104. Even though the right-hander hasn't been in the lights-out form he showed in 2007, he's slowly coming around if he can find himself going a bit deeper into outings on a more regular basis. Beckett posted a 2.38 ERA in June, going 2-1 in that span, and is 2-0 so far in July.



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Angels: Garland was roughed up for seven runs on 10 hits in just 2 2/3 innings against the A's on July 11. He allowed 12 of the 21 batters he faced to reach base via hit or walk. Garland actually pitched well in his previous start as he allowed just one run in a complete-game win against the Blue Jays.



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Game 3

Sunday, July 20 - 6:00 ET



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BOS: RHP Tim Wakefield (6-6, 3.60) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/wakefti01.shtml) vs LAA: RHP Joe Saunders (12-5, 3.07) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/saundjo01.shtml)



Red Sox: Wakefield allowed just two hits and one run in his start against the Orioles on July 12, pitching into the seventh inning for the ninth consecutive game. His knuckleball kept the Baltimore lineup guessing, and Wakefield did not allow a single baserunner in the final 13 batters he faced. Manager Terry Francona said it might be the best he's ever seen the veteran pitch. Wakefield will take on the Angels in his first start after the All-Star Break, a team he hasn't faced yet this year. He's 5-6 lifetime at Angel Stadium.




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Angels: Saunders pitched well against the Rangers on July 8 but fell short in his bid to win his 13th game of the season. He pitched a complete game, allowing three runs on six hits in eight innings while striking out five. He missed his last start on Sunday because his wife, Shanel, gave birth to the couple's first child, a daughter named Matea, during Saturday's game. Weaver continued his recent run by throwing six strong innings against the Rangers on July 9. He allowed just one earned run on seven hits but the Angels lost the game on Josh Hamilton's game-winning home run in the ninth inning off Angels closer Francisco Rodriguez. Weaver has allowed two earned runs or fewer in each of his last four starts.




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TheLogical
07-18-2008, 04:18 PM
I think we have a chance to win at least 2 out of three the only question is Wake.

i am bob
07-18-2008, 04:35 PM
I think the Red Sox can hit Weaver and Saunders hard while Lackey has struggled in his past few. A sweeep is possible.

-Lavigne43-
07-18-2008, 04:44 PM
I think the Red Sox can hit Weaver and Saunders hard while Lackey has struggled in his past few. A sweeep is possible.

Weaver is not pitching in this series

cocossox
07-18-2008, 07:51 PM
Lackey is very good but I think if we can squeeze out a win tonight I smell a sweep! :D

The Intimidator
07-18-2008, 09:10 PM
Lackey: 1-6 career against the Red Sox in the regular season. 1-8 if you include postseason play. Also, Cora is in the lineup tonight.

Towelie
07-18-2008, 09:14 PM
ya, we always hit Lackey very well.

KmB728
07-18-2008, 09:21 PM
I was hoping to see Lowrie in the lineup tonight, but i guess its Cora

The Intimidator
07-18-2008, 09:30 PM
Well, that means that Lowrie most likely plays short tomorrow...

The Intimidator
07-18-2008, 10:15 PM
lucky double play in the top of the first...drew got robbed of a hit there...unlucky bounce.

Uncle Funster
07-18-2008, 10:27 PM
Longest AB of the year = Torri Hunter

bosox1899
07-18-2008, 11:18 PM
its funny how in the beginning of the season buchholz was pitching great while lester was sucking, now lester is pitching great and buchholz is pitching like ****

BouGa
07-19-2008, 12:02 AM
That was quite embarassing by Manny.

WSU Tony
07-19-2008, 12:04 AM
That was one of the most uncoordinated things Ive ever seen.

papipapsmanny
07-19-2008, 01:08 AM
hmm we got a very inaccurate scouting report on clay as he came up i heard he sat in the 93-95 range, but he is in the 89-92 range trying ti throw that middle in terrible idea

if he doesnt have good location with it he will keep getting rocked

Sal the Stockbr
07-19-2008, 01:16 AM
That was one of the most uncoordinated things Ive ever seen.

Manny being Manny I guess :rolleyes:

-Lavigne43-
07-19-2008, 01:17 AM
I'm glad I missed this game. 11 runs, ouch

nyyfan4life
07-19-2008, 02:51 AM
I was flipping through the channels and saw parts of the RS game and saw Manny's "blunder". What do you think the management is feeling with "lackadaisical" play from Man-Ram? Are they upset with him? From the replays and stuff Theo and Francona both looked disgusted when Manny was laughing of his mis-play. Is this something to look into or something minor that will be brushed aside as "Manny being Manny"?

Tragedy
07-19-2008, 11:33 AM
I was flipping through the channels and saw parts of the RS game and saw Manny's "blunder". What do you think the management is feeling with "lackadaisical" play from Man-Ram? Are they upset with him? From the replays and stuff Theo and Francona both looked disgusted when Manny was laughing of his mis-play. Is this something to look into or something minor that will be brushed aside as "Manny being Manny"?
Manny has gotten a free pass for nearly 8 years here.

He'll continue to get a free pass.

papipapsmanny
07-19-2008, 03:58 PM
god dammi ellsbury im sick of him not swinging at the 1st 2 pitches down the middle then swinging at crap for strike 3

yaowowrocket11
07-19-2008, 06:33 PM
Damn, that was a nasty pitch to Lowrie.

Tragedy
07-19-2008, 07:29 PM
Sweet.

I leave with the Yankees losing in the 9th, Red Sox winning in the 7th.

End result? Yankee win, Sox lose.

Cool!

yaowowrocket11
07-19-2008, 07:31 PM
Sweet.

I leave with the Yankees losing in the 9th, Red Sox winning in the 7th.

End result? Yankee win, Sox lose.

Cool!

:clap:

Successful day!

I blame Manny..........He is easy to blame.

Tragedy
07-19-2008, 07:38 PM
:clap:

Successful day!

I blame Manny..........He is easy to blame.
As I continue to have my like for Ramirez disappear, yeah, it's becoming increasing easy for me to just say 'Manny's fault'.

yaowowrocket11
07-19-2008, 07:51 PM
As I continue to have my like for Ramirez disappear, yeah, it's becoming increasing easy for me to just say 'Manny's fault'.

You aren't the only one tired of Manny. I am still praying that Theo decides to ship him out now, and get some value in return, than rather see him leave this offseason, while we get nothing in return.

:pray:

Run Gardner Run
07-19-2008, 07:52 PM
Is it Mannys option to stay or the team option?

yaowowrocket11
07-19-2008, 07:55 PM
Is it Mannys option to stay or the team option?

Team Options for the 2009 and 2010 seasons, I believe.

-Lavigne43-
07-19-2008, 07:58 PM
That was a frustrating loss. One we should have won.

Run Gardner Run
07-19-2008, 08:00 PM
Team Options for the 2009 and 2010 seasons, I believe.

The thing is, at least from my view. When Manny is relaxed and happy, he is better than 99% of baseball players. But its stuff like this that makes him look like he is doing this on purpose.

Brooke
07-19-2008, 08:12 PM
I hate it when they lose, especially one like that. A game they should have won

Run Gardner Run
07-19-2008, 08:25 PM
I dont care if the Yankees win the WC or Division, as long as they get in I dont care which it is. But all I want is for Tampa to drop out, and for the Division race come to that last series between us.

bosox1899
07-19-2008, 08:58 PM
the red sox for some reason can never pitch out of jams, if the team gets a man on second or anywhere in scoring position, they always score. I told my brother today while we were watching it in the mall when they were up 2-0 in the 6th, I was like only the 6th, damn I have a bad feeling about this I knew we'd give it up somehow. We did have a chance to come back in the 8th but the bottom of the order always does what they do best screw it up either by strike out or double plays. not the way we wanted to start the second half, but on the positive note ortiz is set to return soon thankfully

Tragedy
07-19-2008, 09:01 PM
You aren't the only one tired of Manny. I am still praying that Theo decides to ship him out now, and get some value in return, than rather see him leave this offseason, while we get nothing in return.

:pray:
I think the most likely thing to happen is what I like to call "The Gary Sheffield" - The Yankees picked up Sheff's option, and shipped him to the Tigers to make sure the Red Sox couldn't get him.

Towelie
07-19-2008, 10:46 PM
Beckett was in for way to long.

Tragedy
07-19-2008, 10:48 PM
Beckett was in for way to long.
Not like they have a Bullpen that can help the team out of jams. :shrug:

KmB728
07-20-2008, 02:45 PM
we need a big win tonight

yaowowrocket11
07-20-2008, 03:00 PM
I think the most likely thing to happen is what I like to call "The Gary Sheffield" - The Yankees picked up Sheff's option, and shipped him to the Tigers to make sure the Red Sox couldn't get him.

That would make the most sense, but I am just so tired of him now, so I want to get rid of him ASAP. I honestly don't think the Yankees would offer him a big contract if he were to hit the open market.

KmB728
07-20-2008, 03:34 PM
I dont think we need to get rid of Manny.... honestly he may be a pain in the *** but he will give you 30 home runs a year

Brooke
07-20-2008, 04:23 PM
I dont think we need to get rid of Manny.... honestly he may be a pain in the *** but he will give you 30 home runs a year

Yeah I agree. Manny drives me nuts sometimes but I still like him as a baseball player. He makes clutch hits when needed and is still very productive

Hopefully we can win tonight

PeteyDoesKarate
07-20-2008, 04:46 PM
I think the most likely thing to happen is what I like to call "The Gary Sheffield" - The Yankees picked up Sheff's option, and shipped him to the Tigers to make sure the Red Sox couldn't get him.


Maybe you think Manny would gladly like to get out of Boston, but he's a 10/5 guy so he can veto any trade, right? I still think they should pick up the option. There aren't any solid power hitting OFers coming onto the market this off season, from what I've seen, that would be an upgrade from Manny. Sure he'd be overpaid but we know he can perform in Boston and there are no guarantees we would get any of the free agents.

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 05:31 PM
Ya I assume that unless the team thinks it can Trade Bowden,Lowdria and Crisp for Holliday and Fuergus and trade Youkilis and Hansen for Texiarra. Both will require contracts soon but both are younger and Youkilis how much I like him his trade value is at a all time high and he played way over his head as far as homeruns are concern.
The lineup would look different but it replace Manny big bat with 2 guys and give Ellsbury the everyday job.

1. Ellsbury CF
2. Pedroia 2nd
3. Ortiz DH
4. Texiarra 1rst base
5. Holliday LF
6. Drew RF
7. Lowell 3rd base.
8. Varitek C
9. Lugo SS.
The thing is even if by chance maybe Texierra leaves as a free agent this offseason they still have other people to replace Youkilis. Delgado is a free agent as is Dunn who can play first base and old friend Millar and Casey.

KmB728
07-20-2008, 05:55 PM
I really dont think we should give up Youk, even if it is for Tex

hes an importat piece of this team, look at the numbers hes putting up this year, 1st base is not the problem with this team

J-E-T-S
07-20-2008, 06:34 PM
Sup guys!

WTF Wakefield!!

KmB728
07-20-2008, 06:35 PM
Wow great start to the game Wake

J-E-T-S
07-20-2008, 06:36 PM
That high knuckleball and he just pwned that pitch

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 06:42 PM
Its starting to look like they are going to get swept. Wakefield back to giving up homers again. The offense back to looking at strike 3 not swinging.

J-E-T-S
07-20-2008, 06:44 PM
Lets go manny, hopefully Wakefield is taken out if he lets another run, becuase he is not fooling Vlad with that pitch

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 06:48 PM
Nice Manny. A double. I was ready to see another guy left on base. I thaught they were going walk Manny and again and leave a guy on 2nd base again.

J-E-T-S
07-20-2008, 06:48 PM
oh yea rbi hit for Manny!!

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 06:50 PM
Well nice job tying the game Lowell.

KmB728
07-20-2008, 07:12 PM
We need Jacoby to start hitting the ball, that way Pedroias hits turn into rbi's

J-E-T-S
07-20-2008, 07:20 PM
what is the score?

KmB728
07-20-2008, 07:24 PM
2-2 Wake is getting into a groove 11 of the last 12 battershave been retired

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-20-2008, 08:07 PM
3-2 Sox. :D

Brooke
07-20-2008, 08:13 PM
Hopefully they can keep the lead

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-20-2008, 08:15 PM
Mmm, Wake looked good that inning.

J-E-T-S
07-20-2008, 08:19 PM
what happened? Who won?

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-20-2008, 08:22 PM
Still going. :D

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-20-2008, 08:24 PM
Woahh, that was a nasty pitch.

KmB728
07-20-2008, 08:30 PM
Why did it take so long to take wake out

Brooke
07-20-2008, 08:31 PM
UGH I had a feeling something like this was gonna happen :(

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 08:33 PM
Once again we blow the game in the 8th inning just like yesterday.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-20-2008, 08:35 PM
Cause Francona isn't the Sharpest tool in the shed? :D

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 08:40 PM
Francona not sharp because if he was he bring a lefty in to face a left hand hitter like Lopez.

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 08:41 PM
After this series Francona better never use his starter past 7 innings and the GM better get on the phone and get a relief pitcher as Delcarmen and Hansen and Timlin are Garbage

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 08:43 PM
Ya just like every other ****in reliever does good after damage is done. Doesn't change my opinion of you Delcarmen. You should be Release if you can't get job done with guys on base.

Brooke
07-20-2008, 08:46 PM
I am so sick of them playing so bad on the road and don't get me started on the bullpen

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 08:48 PM
Yesterday and Today we might have gone to Okijami with lead in 8th inning and he pitches a inning and Papelbon 9th inning and we win. It worked last year maybe it work second half of year. Okijami got plenty or rest and is ok as long as he starts a inning so start him in the 8th inning its not rocket science.

yaowowrocket11
07-20-2008, 08:49 PM
:pity:

BREAKING NEWS! THE RED SOX BULLPEN BLOWS IT AGAIN! WHAT A SHOCKER!

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 08:50 PM
I hate it as Francona to lazy to bring in a lefty against Kotchman also a dumb stupid move at least walk him if you don't. Whats the point in having a lefty specilist in bullpen if you don't use them in a tied game a guy on 3rd one out.

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 08:53 PM
Can't wait to get Coco Crisp lazy butt back on the bench. Both him and Casey are bench players not regulars. Dang it Theo Epstein if you don't do anything at the trade deadline I am not going to another Redsox game the rest of the year. This isn't last year where Beckett could end losing streaks.

Brooke
07-20-2008, 08:55 PM
they need to do something about this bullpen now. There is no excuse for playing so badly on the road. They are the World Champs for crying out loud and a veteran team who should know how to win on the road

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 08:56 PM
Nice great effort by our horrible team in the 9th inning. Why am I not surpraise this bunch of losers would all strike out. This is the worse road team in baseball. Its a bunch of sorry overpaid spoled people. Texierra is 3 times the player Youkilies is and Coco all upset in spring training about not starting. You think you horrible .250 average any team would want you starting on unless there headed to the basement.

gcoll
07-20-2008, 08:56 PM
Please stop crying.

It's embarrassing to read some of the posts in this thread.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-20-2008, 08:58 PM
Dude, we lost. It happens. Deal with it.

On another note, Rays lost so no ground lost.

gcoll
07-20-2008, 09:02 PM
Dude, we lost. It happens. Deal with it.

On another note, Rays lost so no ground lost.

Yeah. And the "We suck on the road" stuff is a double edged sword, because while we do suck on the road.....we've played more road games than anyone else.

Look at the schedule in September. We play 16 home games, and 7 road games (if I remember right)....if the division race is even close at that point, we should be able to pull away in September.

And, really. We got Ortiz coming back soon, we got Masterson coming up to help the pen, and they'll probably make some sort of a deal to help the bullpen. So, come on.

It's one thing complaining if we're 7 or 8 games out. But we're 1.5 back. Having a great season. There really isn't all that much to complain about being a Red Sox fan at this point.

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 09:06 PM
Dude we are only 3 games ahead of Yankees right now and were playing them next weekend. By a week at this pace we could be in 3rd place. Yankees we had a chance all year to put ton of distance and we wasted it sucking on the road. Look I didn't say crap the first 2 games they lost which I was upset but all I wanted to to take 1 game In Anhiem which shouldn't be hard considering last 2 games we had the better starter going for us. In 2 of these 3 games Redsox starter looked favored and someone can have a bad game but you figure at least 1 of them you win. They need Ortiz up here now and Ellsbury is in a slump and Crisp has no business in this lineup. Get rid of Crisp hopefully at deadline and bring a impact player. Texierra would be such a huge boast to this lineup with Ortiz back that even if Drew doesn't have the great second half like he did the first half we still have best lineup. With Ellsbury leading off and Pedroia on fire in the number 2 spot there no need for Youkilis at the top of lineup and he not a 30 homer firstbaseman like others out there. Plus having Ortiz and Manny getting older we need a young slugger which Texierra is only 28 and getting better. He hitting in a big field pitchers park in Alanta and can hit 44 homers playing in fenway.

gcoll
07-20-2008, 09:12 PM
Dude we are only 3 games ahead of Yankees right now and were playing them next weekend.
OH MY GOD NO WAY!!!


By a week at this pace we could be in 3rd place.
And if we go on a good streak, we could be in first. What's your point?


Yankees we had a chance all year to put ton of distance and we wasted it
Theoretically, I guess so....but not really. Considering that Ortiz has missed a substantial amount of time, we were down 1 starter right out of the gate, and how many road games we've played, and long road trips we've been on...I'd say we're in decent position. No?

But thanks for repeating the exact same thing Jon Miller just said on ESPN about 500 times. Way to think.

Texierra would be such a huge boast to this lineup
Which do you want?

.316/.382/.567 17 homers, 67 RBI

or

.273/.378/.486 17 homers 69 RBI


Plus having Ortiz and Manny getting older we need a young slugger which Texierra is only 28 and getting better.
Tex is a roider, and is getting worse.

Greenmonster24
07-20-2008, 09:17 PM
What about Colorado. There only 6 games out of first place in the NL West. Should they have a firesale yet. There shortstop comes back tomorrow. They swept a 4 game set against Pittsburge and face Dodgers at home now while Arozona facing the tough Cubs team. Best record in NL cubs. Rockies could still make a run at the division yet people think they should have firesale. Half the boards teams talking about getting Holliday. They could end up being buyers as they have better chance then Alanta at making playoffs right now.

Towelie
07-20-2008, 09:25 PM
wow....are we really this terrible?

Tragedy
07-20-2008, 11:06 PM
Can't wait to get Coco Crisp lazy butt back on the bench. Both him and Casey are bench players not regulars. Dang it Theo Epstein if you don't do anything at the trade deadline I am not going to another Redsox game the rest of the year. This isn't last year where Beckett could end losing streaks.
Yeah, because Ellsbury is producing a damn right now, huh..

KmB728
07-20-2008, 11:16 PM
Theo pressures on, we need another arm, and another bat

gcoll
07-20-2008, 11:45 PM
Theo pressures on, we need another arm, and another bat

Other bat = Ortiz, right?

Other arm = ??? maybe Masterson? What relief pitchers are available?

tc2deuce
07-20-2008, 11:56 PM
I hate trips to the west!....lets get healthy and do what we do

tc2deuce
07-21-2008, 12:03 AM
guarantee we lose 2 of 3 from Sea........but I hope not

gcoll
07-21-2008, 01:13 AM
guarantee we lose 2 of 3 from Sea........but I hope not

We're gonna sweep Seattle.

I have predicted so.....and it will be so.

J-E-T-S
07-21-2008, 01:15 AM
damn,

-Lavigne43-
07-21-2008, 01:49 AM
Another terrible loss at the end of a game we should have won. Ellsbury needs to go to the bottom of the lineup once Ortiz returns. He has been awful the last two months. We can't have that from our lead off hitter. Either Youk or Pedroia should lead off

Cronin
07-21-2008, 10:24 AM
Thank God this series is over. **** the Angels. Bring on the Mariners!

Tragedy
07-21-2008, 11:56 AM
Another terrible loss at the end of a game we should have won. Ellsbury needs to go to the bottom of the lineup once Ortiz returns. He has been awful the last two months. We can't have that from our lead off hitter. Either Youk or Pedroia should lead off
I think I'd put Pedroia one, mainly because Youkilis has been driving in a ton of runs, and he won't get that same oppertunity in the 1 spot.

As much as I like Ellsbury's future potential, he's severely hurting the clubs chances right now. His offense is just non existent. Put him to the bottom of the order until he starts hitting the ball well.

I can not wait to get Papi back in this lineup.

tc2deuce
07-21-2008, 12:26 PM
Another terrible loss at the end of a game we should have won. Ellsbury needs to go to the bottom of the lineup once Ortiz returns. He has been awful the last two months. We can't have that from our lead off hitter. Either Youk or Pedroia should lead off

agreed........but I think Ells will catch fire real soon! we just need our team together again....psychologically it kills the chemistry of this unit b/c we have some ingredients missing.....sweep sea. head home and take out the yanks and get revenge on the Angels = best team in baseball again!

fresh prince
07-21-2008, 03:26 PM
I hate it as Francona to lazy to bring in a lefty against Kotchman also a dumb stupid move at least walk him if you don't. Whats the point in having a lefty specilist in bullpen if you don't use them in a tied game a guy on 3rd one out.

This is why you dont always go by the Book Kotchman hits .340 against lefties..Other teams have tried it only to get burned..

Greenmonster24
07-21-2008, 06:51 PM
Whatever Kotchman hits against lefties Lopez is the best option to get a lefty out. He holding lefties to under .200 batting average. Most of Kotchman average against lefties and at bats came against starters not releif pitchers. Lopez has a role on this team to get lefties out. How Kotchman does against other lefties is meanless as long as our lefty can get him out.

Greenmonster24
07-21-2008, 06:54 PM
The hole bottom of lineup with Coco Crisp slumping and also catcher plus Ellsbury prety much sets up for a easy inning for the other team. It be nice to be able get production out of the bottom of lineup. Hopefully with Ortiz back we will be able to move guys down a spot to normal spot in lineup and that make it not so bad and add a good bench guy in Coco who can run or Casey who can pinch hit late in the game.