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phlp_bj
07-11-2008, 07:37 PM
There have been a couple of bizarre rumors floating around about Carlos Boozer lately. One, now a couple of weeks old, had him going to Miami. Today's rumor has him going to Charlotte.

You can understand the logic. Charlotte lets Emeka Okafor go to the Clippers and works a deal to bring in a replacement. Boozer would certainly be a major upgrade to Okafor, and would make the Bobcats a force to be reckoned with. What you can't understand is why on earth anyone would actually think the Jazz want to trade Carlos Boozer . . .anywhere . . .for anyone.

Jazz GM Kevin O'Connor recently told HOOPSWORLD he has no intention of making a big trade this summer. He's happy to re-sign Deron Williams and move forward with the core group he currently has in place. That may even mean Andrei Kirilenko stays, though that's certainly up in the air.

But let's step back from that for a moment. Let's say the Stockton-to-Malone combination of Williams and Boozer is not the long-term plan in Utah and that Jerry Sloan isn't completely thrilled with their development (which he is). Today's rumor has the Bobcats sending Sean May (yes, the Sean May who missed all of last season) and Gerald Wallace to Utah for Boozer. There's a weird tie in the story, which is that a member of Bobcats was in Utah to see a medical specialist, but that was Adam Morrison, who had absolutely no contact with the Jazz while he was there.

It does seem Gerald Wallace may be available for the right deal, as we've seen several rumors about him changing teams. That in itself seems weird, since the Bobcats just locked him up long-term last summer. But where there's smoke there's usually fire and the Bobcats played very well during a couple of stretches when Wallace was injured. There's certainly more to a story about Wallace being traded than there is about Boozer going anywhere. As the title suggests, that ain't gonna happen.

The reason we're hearing discussion at all is that Boozer has an opt-out next summer and there's speculation that he might decide to use it. Fans in Utah are understandably lery of Boozer, who literally robbed a blind man in Cleveland. That said, all indications are that Boozer will re-up with Utah and play with Deron Williams for years to come.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9442

could this happen?

Jeeptj98
07-11-2008, 07:50 PM
I think the only way this would happen is if it was a Sign and Trade for Okafor. The Jazz are a contender in the west and already have 15 players on the roster so they won't be doing a trade for 2 players that are average.

JordansBulls
07-11-2008, 07:52 PM
Okafor for Boozer would work.

But if the Jazz lose Boozer they are officially out of the playoff hunt.

Jeeptj98
07-11-2008, 07:55 PM
I don't think so I think Okafor could fill his spot. If they could pull off a sign and trade for Okafor I would be all for it they are going to lose boozer anyways after this season when he opts out so I would rather get something for him now. Plus it would be better for Boozer because his Kid can't even live in utah because of his Disease so Boozer could be closer to home.

superkegger
07-11-2008, 07:57 PM
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Ragun
07-11-2008, 07:59 PM
Okafor for Boozer would work.

But if the Jazz lose Boozer they are officially out of the playoff hunt.

I think it will cost the 'cats more than that.

Agreed.

avsman05
07-11-2008, 08:05 PM
Don't trust hoopsworld unless it is in the reality bin thread they are deceiving and rarely correct.

BADizzleBoY
07-11-2008, 08:07 PM
nahhhh brahhhh.

Iodine
07-11-2008, 08:09 PM
Hoopsworld fails dont trust them

lakers4sho
07-11-2008, 10:06 PM
No. Just no.

Raptors27
07-11-2008, 10:54 PM
Good deal for the Bobcats lol

BlondeBomber41
07-11-2008, 11:46 PM
What you can't understand is why on earth anyone would actually think the Jazz want to trade Carlos Boozer . . .anywhere . . .for anyone.

Bingo. Boozer has raised his game and value up to Dirk Nowitzki/Kevin Garnett/Amare Stoudamire type levels. No way the Jazz would want to trade him unless he deceides to demand a trade, and of course he isnt going to do that. The Jazz are a very good team.

_Sn1P3r_
07-12-2008, 12:22 AM
Okafor for Boozer would work.

But if the Jazz lose Boozer they are officially out of the playoff hunt.

I agree. The whole 'Stockton-Malone' comparison won't live on.

kntresistheheat
07-12-2008, 01:38 AM
Why would the jazz take a chance on a injury prone guy to replace a chemistry that is working there a defensive center away to make it!!! That why I thought they should of gone after Jermaine oneal, although he is injury prone as well but he is an upgrade and could of helped them???

arlubas
07-12-2008, 06:18 AM
Boozer will go where there's more cash involved, I think that's pretty clear by now. I don't think however that if Utah play this the right way they will have a problem resigning him since Booz enjoyed success in Utah so far.

Btw, what is it with Duke big men and their back stabbing ways lately? Sorry, had to say it...

Shieldsz
07-12-2008, 06:19 AM
never will happen...

DenButsu
07-12-2008, 07:53 AM
Thread title changed.

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arlubas
07-12-2008, 08:42 AM
Stupid DenButsu abusing his mod powers again...




Just playing man, you know I luv ya! :D

DenButsu
07-12-2008, 08:43 AM
Stupid DenButsu abusing his mod powers again...




Just playing man, you know I luv ya! :D

:laugh2:

And here I was thinking I was being cool by not closing or deleting it...

arlubas
07-12-2008, 08:54 AM
:laugh2:

And here I was thinking I was being cool by not closing or deleting it...

Haha if there is anyone that has a history of abusing his mod powers that certainly ain't you man, you can count on that.

Hope everything's going well for you in the far east.

Crunchy12489
07-12-2008, 09:11 AM
Hoopsworld does a great job bull****ting their readers.

I don't believe anything unless it says ESPN/Sports Illustrated/Yahoo/NBA.com Behind it.

DrDEADalready
07-12-2008, 09:44 AM
Yeah this is the Dumbest thing i have ever read. if boozer would opt out. he better go to another Contender. because if he didnt he's We Tar Did.

_Supreme_
07-12-2008, 09:59 AM
i don't understand where this rumor comes from. no way the jazz trade him. just a nonsensical rumor.

I have to agree with this.

It makes no sense for the Jazz to do this, and Boozer would never want to stay in Charlotte long term, which would make Utah a weaker team and Charlotte would lose Okafor for a one year rental. None of it makes sense.

Crunchy12489
07-12-2008, 10:07 AM
Just when they started comparing him and D-Will to Stockton and Malone.

Damn Carlos, this thread better be pointless.

Ph1lly Diehard
07-12-2008, 10:33 AM
Utah is a lock for a top 6 seed in the West, making this move just makes no sense.
This is the definition of a rumour

bw2893
07-12-2008, 10:37 AM
Boozer for Okafur or Wallace will never happen. But AK for Wallace should...
I would like to see the trade of AK and Milsap for Wallace and May. The reason is becuase if Charlotte is going to lose Okafur to the Clippers (rumor of course) then they will want players to take his spot. AK and Milsap could play either the 3 or 4 spot, which would give a lot of comfort to Charlotte and a lot of versatility.

I would hate to see the jazz lose Milsap as he is much much better than May, but I would hate even more to see the jazz passing up the chance to dump AK's contract and pick up a player like Wallace in his place. The salaries actually wouldn't work, so the jazz would have to take another low level player along with Wallace and May. May's contract is up next year, which would give the jazz a chance to re-sign at mid-level maybe, or pick up a better player on the free agent wire. And to get Wallace for 4 years at a much smaller price than what we have AK for, is candy.

DrDEADalready
07-12-2008, 10:40 AM
Boozer for Okafur or Wallace will never happen. But AK for Wallace should...
I would like to see the trade of AK and Milsap for Wallace and May. The reason is becuase if Charlotte is going to lose Okafur to the Clippers (rumor of course) then they will want players to take his spot. AK and Milsap could play either the 3 or 4 spot, which would give a lot of comfort to Charlotte and a lot of versatility.

I would hate to see the jazz lose Milsap as he is much much better than May, but I would hate even more to see the jazz passing up the chance to dump AK's contract and pick up a player like Wallace in his place. The salaries actually wouldn't work, so the jazz would have to take another low level player along with Wallace and May. May's contract is up next year, which would give the jazz a chance to re-sign at mid-level maybe, or pick up a better player on the free agent wire. And to get Wallace for 4 years at a much smaller price than what we have AK for, is candy.

I would not give up millsap either. he's a beast comming off the bench. take AK though

Crunchy12489
07-12-2008, 11:01 AM
I would not give up millsap either. he's a beast comming off the bench. take AK though

I'm not much of a Jazz fan, but I do watch their games from time to time.

AK does all of the dirty work.

Carlos never gets that many blocks, so it forces AK to do the dirty work in the paint. Carlos does puts his hand up though, he's an OK defender.

AK can also give you that clutch three. He proved himself in the games against Houston and the what, 5 or 6 blocks on Kobe Bean?

AK is a good player.

I say you guys need to get rid of Mehmet Okur for another Center that has a back-to-basket ability... Someone who can post up and dish if he senses a double team... It's always great to have a 3 pt shooting center, but he doesn't get down and dirty with the bigger centers... Not to mention he is soft in the paint.. I've seen numerous younger centers body him up and snag boards over him like he was a little 4th grade girl...

jimbobjarree
07-12-2008, 11:04 AM
nar I think all Jazz fans have come to the conclusion that we have to trade AKs contract in order to re-sign memo, Booz and D Will without going over the luxury tax, which the Jazz owner says he will never do. Memo may not be the most defensive center, but he's affordable, and a good pirice for the job he does, unlike AK, if AK was on 8-10mil a year it would be ok, but 15,16,17 million for the job he does is just crazy.

he will be an acceptable loss if the Jazz want to progress

Crunchy12489
07-12-2008, 11:10 AM
nar I think all Jazz fans have come to the conclusion that we have to trade AKs contract in order to re-sign memo, Booz and D Will without going over the luxury tax, which the Jazz owner says he will never do. Memo may not be the most defensive center, but he's affordable, and a good pirice for the job he does, unlike AK, if AK was on 8-10mil a year it would be ok, but 15,16,17 million for the job he does is just crazy.

he will be an acceptable loss if the Jazz want to progress

It's hard putting up 5x5's... but yeah 15 mill a year is a little much

DrDEADalready
07-12-2008, 11:20 AM
I'm not much of a Jazz fan, but I do watch their games from time to time.

AK does all of the dirty work.

Carlos never gets that many blocks, so it forces AK to do the dirty work in the paint. Carlos does puts his hand up though, he's an OK defender.

AK can also give you that clutch three. He proved himself in the games against Houston and the what, 5 or 6 blocks on Kobe Bean?

AK is a good player.

I say you guys need to get rid of Mehmet Okur for another Center that has a back-to-basket ability... Someone who can post up and dish if he senses a double team... It's always great to have a 3 pt shooting center, but he doesn't get down and dirty with the bigger centers... Not to mention he is soft in the paint.. I've seen numerous younger centers body him up and snag boards over him like he was a little 4th grade girl...

Yeah man dont get me wrong. AK Defense. is probably the best we have. but his contract is killing us. and D-will said he only wants to stay with the Jazz as long as he can see us as a Championship contender. but with AK salary. i might prevent us from resigning Booz. and we would rather give ak away then to lose booz and end up losing D-will. so it like a bad thing anyway because if we give AK away we will be losing his awesome D

JAZZNC
07-12-2008, 11:49 AM
I'd be amazed if this went down. I wouldn't be too happy about it. May SUCKS just like I said he would and Wallace puts up nice stats on a perennial bottom feeder.....no thanks.

homestarunner93
07-12-2008, 02:59 PM
I'd be amazed if this went down. I wouldn't be too happy about it. May SUCKS just like I said he would and Wallace puts up nice stats on a perennial bottom feeder.....no thanks.

Sorry, but the Bobcats aren't "bottom feeders." They had the 9th pick in the draft, and while its still lottery, its far from the bottom.

3-K
07-12-2008, 05:43 PM
tyme is running out with the clippers with 12.8 mil n cap room lookin for a pf (e.okafor)

we should just get wat we can be4 he leave us for da money

bobcats get
AK
c.boozer
1rd pick

jazz get
e.oak
g.wallace

homestarunner93
07-12-2008, 07:31 PM
tyme is running out with the clippers with 12.8 mil n cap room lookin for a pf (e.okafor)

we should just get wat we can be4 he leave us for da money

bobcats get
AK
c.boozer
1rd pick

jazz get
e.oak
g.wallace

1. Speak English
2. Horrible trade for the Jazz

bw2893
07-13-2008, 11:38 AM
Hey Bobcat fans what about this trade?

Utah gives AK, and Milsap or AK and Almond with Collins

Bobcats give Wallace, May, and Dudley-(purely for salary match reasons) any mid to low level guy would work.

I think this would work...

3-K
07-13-2008, 12:07 PM
that trade would not workout wallace him self avg mor then almost all three of them players in dudley is still making progress no thanks

bw2893
07-13-2008, 12:26 PM
Wallace averages about the same amount of points, but not even close to the rebounds, asisists, and just defensive presense that AK and Milsap bring. They are hustlers and you have to look at it this way: You know how Wallace plays with the cats, but if AK is put in a situation to be a major offensive presense again, he will be. When he was with the jazz he averaged as many points as Wallace does now, with better defense who can play the 3 or 4 spot. Milsap-if he was on mostly any other team, he would probably be starting PF. AK and Milsap are behind Williams and Boozer for offensive points. I bet if given more minutes and especially AK given a stronger offensive role, the bobcats would benifit greatly from it.

bw2893
07-13-2008, 12:32 PM
Think about it one guy in Wallace for two great guys in AK and Milsap. Milsap isn't a mid-level player at all, he's just on a team where the people in front of him are all-stars, so he doens't have much of a choice.

DerekRE_3
07-13-2008, 01:14 PM
Eh I dunno. I'm not a big AK fan, but i love Paul Millsap. If he was given the opportunity to start, he'd put up some great numbers I think.

bw2893
07-13-2008, 04:37 PM
I think so too, and to be honest, if this trade were to even be an idea (AK for Wallace) the jazz would probably have to include Milsap or a combination of Miles/Almond/Collins to compensate for AK's bloated contract. The more the jazz give, however, the more the cats have to give back for salary reasons, so I can see a small package going and a small package coming in return. Ergo- AK and Milsap for Wallace, May and another low-level player the cats have just to make their salary cap work.

Jeeptj98
07-14-2008, 12:31 AM
The guy that suggested the Jazz trade a first round pick doesn't realize that they don't have one. They owe one to the Sixers for the Korver trade and they can take it anytime they were saying that is part of the reason why they didn't make a draft day trade. They do have a 1st rounder coming from the Knicks but I doubt they want to trade it as it will probably be a high first rounder.

NDP1981
07-15-2008, 01:57 AM
I can't see Boozer going anywhere right now.