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phlp_bj
07-10-2008, 05:55 PM
Tampa Bay third baseman Evan Longoria and Milwaukee outfielder Corey Hart have won the 32nd and final roster spots for the 79th All-Star Game on Tuesday at Yankee Stadium, holding off marquee competition all the way as a record 47.8 million votes were cast in the Monster 2008 All-Star Game Final Vote.

The voting, which began exclusively at MLB.com on Sunday and concluded at 5 p.m. ET on Thursday, ultimately will be remembered not only for those two young players' selections but also the amazing participation by baseball fans worldwide. The final vote total was more than half of the entire number cast in the previous six years of the Final Vote, and it was more than double last year's record of 23.2 million.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080710&content_id=3107903&vkey=allstar2008&fext=.jsp

ruslan898
07-10-2008, 06:10 PM
Pat Burrell !!!!!!!!!!!!! :((((((

-Lavigne43-
07-10-2008, 06:14 PM
How the hell did Hart win? He was probably the least deserving finalist

gocubs2118
07-10-2008, 06:15 PM
Stupid fans again.

mattz1212
07-10-2008, 06:21 PM
All this does is add yet another OFer to the squad that Burrell should have made the team over. What's that, 7 now?

-Lavigne43-
07-10-2008, 06:23 PM
Hopefully Burrell gets added to replace Soriano

shamah115
07-10-2008, 06:30 PM
o come on... DAVID WRIGHT!!!! he is the best out of all of them...

Ph1lly Diehard
07-10-2008, 06:31 PM
I will be so pissed if burrell doesn't get in..

natepro
07-10-2008, 06:35 PM
At least Longoria made it.

grkmaster
07-10-2008, 06:44 PM
David Wright = SNUBBED!

northsider
07-10-2008, 06:52 PM
Carlos Lee???

Jimi032890
07-10-2008, 07:03 PM
How the hell did Hart win? He was probably the least deserving finalist

im not much of a brewer fan but last i checked, Hart was batting .298 with i think 14 HRs and like 52 RBIs and that was i think 3 games ago. not too shabby.

WHERE THE F IS DYE?!?!?!?!

koldjerky
07-10-2008, 07:08 PM
im not much of a brewer fan but last i checked, Hart was batting .298 with i think 14 HRs and like 52 RBIs and that was i think 3 games ago. not too shabby.

compared to a line of .279/.412/.581 22 homers and 54 rbis, hart's numbers fall short. The BA is about the only thing Hart has on Burrell, well plus the all important SBs.

-Lavigne43-
07-10-2008, 07:46 PM
im not much of a brewer fan but last i checked, Hart was batting .298 with i think 14 HRs and like 52 RBIs and that was i think 3 games ago. not too shabby.

WHERE THE F IS DYE?!?!?!?!

Obviously he has good numbers to be on the final ballot. He was the worse of all the players considered.

Jibonnie125
07-10-2008, 08:10 PM
Good picks, these players are real good.

bhcluc
07-10-2008, 08:12 PM
Awwwww... and I voted Dye....

I love that the Sox advertised for the guy, but Longoria was by far the better player.

northsider
07-10-2008, 08:14 PM
Carlos Lee got snubbed!

Big E
07-10-2008, 08:32 PM
Its BS. Dye should be an allstar
so should Longoria
Crede shouldn't be an allstar tho

MoJay
07-10-2008, 08:32 PM
i voted lee and dye and once for longoria cause i liked em but lee and dye should have gotten in

hgtiger32
07-10-2008, 08:44 PM
compared to a line of .279/.412/.581 22 homers and 54 rbis, hart's numbers fall short. The BA is about the only thing Hart has on Burrell, well plus the all important SBs.

Sure Burrel has 8 more HRs and TWO more RBI's...so they're pretty much equal...so it comes down to how much the fans of the Brewers and Philliers wanted their guy in....Brewers fans responded and supported their team and players

yaowowrocket11
07-10-2008, 09:07 PM
I voted Lee for the NL, and couldn't decide for the AL between Longoria and Dye, but went with Dye. Lee definitely deserved it, as did Dye, and Burrell. I expect one of them to still be in the game after all.

UPost2Much
07-10-2008, 09:30 PM
Pat Burrell was DEFINITELY the best of the 5 NL options. David Wright was second to Burrell

Longoria was the best option for the AL by a bit, with Jason Giambi not far behind... The most ridiculous thing in my mind is that Kevin Youkilis is starting the All-Star Game while Jason Giambi has a better OBP%, SLG%, OPS+, and not to mention, a few more HRs... the guy with inferior numbers starts, while the one with superior numbers sits at home... a bit odd.

UPost2Much
07-10-2008, 09:34 PM
compared to a line of .279/.412/.581 22 homers and 54 rbis, hart's numbers fall short. The BA is about the only thing Hart has on Burrell, well plus the all important SBs.

Sure Burrel has 8 more HRs and TWO more RBI's...so they're pretty much equal...so it comes down to how much the fans of the Brewers and Philliers wanted their guy in....Brewers fans responded and supported their team and players

8 more HRs is alot... the RBI stat is more of a team-reliant stat... check their OBP and SLG to see how Burrell outperformed Hart. You did get one thing right though... it was clearly a popularity contest, and Milaulkee voted for Corey Hart more times than Philly voted for the better player.

ThisIsTheYear
07-10-2008, 09:36 PM
I'm glad Longoria got in, but Hart.. no way. Lee, Burrell, and Wright are more deserving than him.

BleedGreen1014
07-10-2008, 09:40 PM
Pat Burrell was DEFINITELY the best of the 5 NL options. David Wright was second to Burrell

Longoria was the best option for the AL by a bit, with Jason Giambi not far behind... The most ridiculous thing in my mind is that Kevin Youkilis is starting the All-Star Game while Jason Giambi has a better OBP%, SLG%, OPS+, and not to mention, a few more HRs... the guy with inferior numbers starts, while the one with superior numbers sits at home... a bit odd.

dude i totally agree with you, i was hopin giambi would make it
POWER OF THE STACHE!!!!!!

mattz1212
07-10-2008, 09:42 PM
Obviously he has good numbers to be on the final ballot. He was the worse of all the players considered.

Aaron Rowand? :shrug:

I am still trying to figure out how Corey Hart won though, I guess Brewers fans united to put him in, maybe the recent press around the Brewers helped? I thought Wright as a lock and if not him they would go with the superior statistic choice and select Burrell. I don't think it matters too much though, I have a feeling we'll see Burrell at the All Star Game replacing Soriano.

Longoria was a good selection.

phlp_bj
07-10-2008, 09:54 PM
matt holiday replaces soriano in the nl:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/allstar08/news/story?id=3481665

MGB
07-10-2008, 09:54 PM
Awwwww... and I voted Dye....

I love that the Sox advertised for the guy, but Longoria was by far the better player.

EL - AVG .281 HR 16 DBL 22 RBI 53 Runs 44 SB 6 SLG 527 OPS 880

JD - AVG .298 HR 19 DBL 19 RBI 52 Runs 51 SB 3 SLG 538 OPS 891

who's the far better player? They're both pretty damn close to me, but JD has a higher AVG, OPS, and SLG

Air Adam
07-10-2008, 10:21 PM
You compare Wright and Hart in every offensive category and Wright beats him in each one except average by eight points.

johnnylee722
07-10-2008, 10:21 PM
matt holiday replaces soriano in the nl:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/allstar08/news/story?id=3481665

Holliday was on the team before, so this just means their starting him and they have 2 extra spots on the team. One went to Hart and now they have one spot left to fill. I think it has to be Wright. Everyone else they could consider is an outfielder and they already for 4 outfielders on the bench, no way their taking a 5th. Wright should of been put on the team over Ramirez at 3rd, should of been voted in as the final man (close between him and Burrell) and now his 3rd chance to be put in the game and he shouldn't get screwed out of this one lol. No brainer here.. Wright has to get this final spot.

johnnylee722
07-10-2008, 10:22 PM
You compare Wright and Hart in every offensive category and Wright beats him in each one except average by eight points.

I think Hart is at .293 and Wright is at .288.. Burrell is near .283 I believe.

Brew Crew
07-10-2008, 10:34 PM
You compare Wright and Hart in every offensive category and Wright beats him in each one except average by eight points.

Oh my God go cry about it. If the huge market of New York and all of the David Wright lovers can't pony up enough votes for Wright then to bad. You know the voting is all about what fans want to see and sometimes not always the right guy. (IMO Hart deserves it)...Milwaukee has the smallest media market and we were still able to pull it off.

phillyphan4ever
07-10-2008, 10:37 PM
im still amazed how in hell corey hart won? burrell got like 4 million votes or so, along with wright, who both deserved it more than hart IMO, but i think pat still has a chance...i voted for longoria, good to see him get in

grkmaster
07-10-2008, 11:04 PM
Oh my God go cry about it. If the huge market of New York and all of the David Wright lovers can't pony up enough votes for Wright then to bad. You know the voting is all about what fans want to see and sometimes not always the right guy. (IMO Hart deserves it)...Milwaukee has the smallest media market and we were still able to pull it off.

Over Fukudome.... Not anyone on the ballot

JHG722
07-10-2008, 11:07 PM
Burrell gets robbed again...

johnnylee722
07-10-2008, 11:09 PM
There is one final spot left right? Soriano isn't playing.

phillyphan4ever
07-10-2008, 11:19 PM
yes there is one spot (hopefully burrell)

johnnylee722
07-10-2008, 11:25 PM
yes there is one spot (hopefully burrell)

Their not going to take 8 outfielders. Thy already have 7 and thats a lot.

grkmaster
07-10-2008, 11:26 PM
Their not going to take 8 outfielders. Thy already have 7 and thats a lot.

But they also have 3 3B :( for one position! OF has 3 spots!

iam brett favre
07-10-2008, 11:26 PM
what the hell everyone supported the stache :pity:

Tragedy
07-10-2008, 11:34 PM
At least Longoria made it.
That's my thinking, too. I had a feeling it'd happen, since he's so young and people are slowly starting to drool over the Rays.

iam brett favre
07-10-2008, 11:35 PM
Too bad the Rays are going to start coming back down to earth. They cant play every game at home.

650giants
07-10-2008, 11:35 PM
Burrell and Dye were the two most deserving players

zambo4president
07-11-2008, 05:19 AM
**** em both

koldjerky
07-11-2008, 09:32 AM
Their not going to take 8 outfielders. Thy already have 7 and thats a lot.

Since when does everyone field a position in the ASG? They would've used him as DH or a PH anyway. They still could.

johnnylee722
07-11-2008, 09:37 AM
But they also have 3 3B :( for one position! OF has 3 spots!

they have 2... AL has 3.

johnnylee722
07-11-2008, 09:39 AM
Since when does everyone field a position in the ASG? They would've used him as DH or a PH anyway. They still could.

Well I'm just saying 7 is a lot. Plus Wright is better :D... They should both be in there, but I think Wright is just better.

FriarFanatic
07-11-2008, 01:25 PM
Longoriaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

chicagowhitesox
07-11-2008, 01:27 PM
Fans are just stupid. Jermaine Dye should be an All-Star starter. Terrific hitter as well as outfielder.

NY MeTro StAr
07-11-2008, 01:47 PM
Wright has meant more to his team than anyone else on the ballot, including Burrell. He's having an off-year and still has 70 rbi's??? Btw as all Mets fans know, his defense has taken a leap and will probably earn another Gold Glove (when will Burrell ever get one of those?) Still, better Hart than Burrell :D

Dye should have been the AL All-Star

JHG722
07-11-2008, 03:19 PM
Wright has meant more to his team than anyone else on the ballot, including Burrell. He's having an off-year and still has 70 rbi's??? Btw as all Mets fans know, his defense has taken a leap and will probably earn another Gold Glove (when will Burrell ever get one of those?) Still, better Hart than Burrell :D

Yeah, a Gold Glove with a .947 FP and 12 Errors. While it's apples and oranges, Burrell has a perfect FP, and 7 OF Assists--tied for fourth in all of baseball...Not to mention Burrell was keeping the Phillies from imploding when everyone was struggling.

Tragedy
07-11-2008, 03:37 PM
Fans are just stupid. Jermaine Dye should be an All-Star starter. Terrific hitter as well as outfielder.
In 34 less at bats (And about 10 years younger), Longoria has put up identical numbers to Dye.

Fans voted the right way.

NY MeTro StAr
07-11-2008, 04:53 PM
Yeah, a Gold Glove with a .947 FP and 12 Errors. While it's apples and oranges, Burrell has a perfect FP, and 7 OF Assists--tied for fourth in all of baseball...Not to mention Burrell was keeping the Phillies from imploding when everyone was struggling.

As much as I hate Burrell (and I rly, rly do; alot, man I hate Burrell) I agree he held up the team for awhile. But Wright has a better avg, and Burrell would not have 22 HR's in Shea, let alone most mlb parks. Burrell has so many assists b/c it is widely known his defense is suspect. Scouting reports this yr say to run on him and his average arm, much like Soriano 2 yrs ago. I get scared for Philly fans wen I see him track a fly ball. Wright's errors were, for the most part, early in the season, and he has drastically improved on his greatest defensive weakness (throwing the ball to first). He has the glove, remember errors are just statistics much like his FP. In the 9th with the bases loaded and 2 outs I would rather have Wright make a play than Luis Castillo, supposedly a better fielder than Wright. I refuse to believe you would want Burrell to make the play late in the game over Victorino or Werth.

cubs92
07-11-2008, 06:51 PM
longorias not a terrible choice..but it definately shoulda been dye. in the NL, it shoulda been either carlos lee or wright..but wright made it in anyway because of sorianos injury.

FriarFanatic
07-11-2008, 07:20 PM
no longoria shoulda been in it and fans did it the right way