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BALLER71
07-10-2008, 02:00 PM
Which league has the best pitching?
I always thought that the AL pitching was superior but now with Haren, Harden, C.C and Santana coming to the NL I believe things have changed.
And then we have guys like Lincecum, Volquez and other upcoming pitchers.

Who is the superior league when it comes to pitching?

Max Power
07-10-2008, 02:02 PM
Don't forget the best lhp in the game switched leagues in the off season, as well.

Brendan
07-10-2008, 02:03 PM
NL easily. Johan, lincecum, sheets, volquez, sabathia, harden, haren, webb, zambrano, hamels. Not even close in my opinion

rriders9
07-10-2008, 02:18 PM
Last year AL had it by a mile, but with Johan, Haren, Harden, Sabathia, and Volquez coming over, NL has the better pitching

blams
07-10-2008, 02:19 PM
Al

DaSox_05
07-10-2008, 02:29 PM
I do know on Sunday that I saw in the Chicago Sun times that the A's, White Sox and Blue Jays have a better team ERA than the First place NL team. I dont remember who the first place team in the NL is. Just because the AL lost a lot of big name pitchers doesnt mean that they lose out in pitching a lot of players under the radar have taken over in the AL. 4 out of the top 5 ERA leaders are in the AL Duchscherer, Danks, Lee and Marcum only Volquez is in the NL and the NL faces the pitcher. I still think the better pitching is in the AL.

torontosports10
07-10-2008, 02:42 PM
Make a top 5 for each league...not in order of skill.

AL
1.Doc
2.Beckett
3.Kazmir
4.Lackey
5.Lee(this year anyways) if not...King Felix

NL
1.Santana
2.Lincecum
3.Big Z
4.Volquez
5.C.C

I think the NL has it now.. i had a lot easier time naming 5 top ones in the NL then AL

DaSox_05
07-10-2008, 02:51 PM
Make a top 5 for each league...not in order of skill.

AL
1.Doc
2.Beckett
3.Kazmir
4.Lackey
5.Lee(this year anyways) if not...King Felix

NL
1.Santana
2.Lincecum
3.Big Z
4.Volquez
5.C.C

I think the NL has it now.. i had a lot easier time naming 5 top ones in the NL then AL

Your NL team is terrible I think you are basing it of reputation and not THIS YEAR. CC and Santana are having bad years comparred to there best years you should have Webb and even Haren in the NL. But like I said earlier it still goes to the AL imo.

Max Power
07-10-2008, 02:53 PM
Santana's having a bad year?

DaSox_05
07-10-2008, 03:03 PM
Ok maybe I was wrong with saying Santana was having a bad year I dont watch him as much anymore since he is not on the Twins anymore. He has 7 loses but you cant probably put that on not enough run support considering he has a 2.84 ERA and his WHIP is pretty good at 1.19 Sorry Met fans i retract my statement take out CC and put Webb in (torontosports rotation).

Run Gardner Run
07-10-2008, 03:14 PM
Santana isnt winning the CY Young, thats for sure

torontosports10
07-10-2008, 03:25 PM
Like i said i had a lot easier time naming 5 off the top of my head for the NL then AL. And no i dont base it all off one year.. But Webb probly shoujld be on the list but i did it quick at work so whatevs

chisox..YES!
07-10-2008, 03:36 PM
It is definently closer with all the trades that have been made recently...But, although the NL might have bigger name guys it seems like most AL teams have rotations that go 4 or 5 deep. not many NL teams have that.

FriarFanatic
07-10-2008, 04:04 PM
NL for sure

JDIsMyGod23
07-10-2008, 04:09 PM
AL League AVG - 4.31 ERA
NL League AVG - 4.50 ERA

AL FTW!

BigDaddyKaine
07-10-2008, 04:22 PM
NL Easily

North Yorker
07-10-2008, 04:31 PM
NL has the big names, but the AL is still better and a lot more deeper than the NL.

sanfranfan1210
07-10-2008, 04:33 PM
Nl

northsider
07-10-2008, 06:37 PM
Nl

koldjerky
07-10-2008, 07:04 PM
AL League AVG - 4.31 ERA
NL League AVG - 4.50 ERA

AL FTW!

I was going to try and disprove that by saying the NL just scores more runs than the AL but in actuallity the AL has scored about 20 runs more than the NL. With the AL having a lower ERA and more runs scored, I'd have to say as a whole the AL has the better all around pitching.

belliard is god
07-10-2008, 08:52 PM
nl

76YazwSideburns
07-10-2008, 10:19 PM
It's a flawed questions to begin with - before you even begin to consider the better pitchers you have to consider who they're pitching to.

In the AL's favour, AL pitchers don't have an auto out with the pitchers batting. So I suppose the fact that the AL has a lower ERA than the NL suggests that the overall quality belongs to the AL.

Someone mentioned it earlier - the better depth belongs to the AL. Some big names may have moved to the NL, but beyond Santana and Sabathia they're mostly just names with suspect quality or minimal track records.

Jon Lester, for example, is the Sox # 3 pitcher - 3.38/7-3. Which national league club has a #3 with those numbers?

Look at Danks and Floyd in Chicago - both sub 3.50 ERA's - began the season mid to back of the rotation.

Look at the entire LA Angels of Anaheim of America - they're entire staff is pitching great.

It's the AL - I suspect they'll prove it in the World Series again this year.

This is all to say nothing of Bullpens and Closers - the AL is well ahead there too.

bagwell368
07-10-2008, 10:27 PM
For the time being the NL seems to have an edge in 1's and 2's. But for 3-5, and pens think AL.

Over time, the NL guys moving to the AL have a lot of problems - smaller strike zone, DH, automatic outs batting 7th and 8th in most NL lineups - compared with the other way around.

Let's see FA movement and kids coming up, should balance off to the AL again within 18 months.

enf0e
07-10-2008, 10:58 PM
Tim Lincecum.


Discussion over.

chicagowhitesox
07-11-2008, 01:21 PM
It's AL. By far. No question. They don't get an automatic strikeout 4-5 times a game when they face the pitcher. You really can't even compare an AL pitcher's stats to an NL's. Theirs will always be inflated.

DaSox_05
07-11-2008, 01:40 PM
The AL went 149-103 this year against the NL. I think that pretty much sums up who has the better pitching.