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thatcubsfan
07-07-2008, 02:38 PM
Never even thought of this until reading the idea on chicagocubsonline.com
Hudson would be an interesting player to pursue IF he became available by the braves. As you all know the braves are SP is aging terribly with John Smoltz, Tom Glavine, and Hampton all in their projected rotation and and could be in need of some young pitching (and 1st base starting next year or now if they trade Tex at the deadline). This might not be such a bad idea to inquire on him. What do you think it would take to acquire him? Thoughts?

rcal10
07-07-2008, 02:44 PM
Never even thought of this until reading the idea on chicagocubsonline.com
Hudson would be an interesting player to pursue IF he became available by the braves. As you all know the braves are SP is aging terribly with John Smoltz, Tom Glavine, and Hampton all in their projected rotation and and could be in need of some young pitching (and 1st base starting next year or now if they trade Tex at the deadline). This might not be such a bad idea to inquire on him. What do you think it would take to acquire him? Thoughts?

He would be my first choice, if he came available. However, he will not come cheaply. Start with Gallagher and go from there.
Gallagher, Ceda and Donaldson?

Snydesdale
07-07-2008, 02:44 PM
I would love getting Hudson but they would probably like vitters since chipper is getting old gally and maybe just two more lower prospects maybe just murton they need a OF.

NORTH10
07-07-2008, 02:47 PM
how old is hudson?

rccubsfan
07-07-2008, 02:47 PM
he would be much cheaper than harden in this case they def need some outfield help maybe e-patt, murton, donaldson, veal(a couple or 3 of those)

CubsFanBudMan74
07-07-2008, 02:49 PM
he will make 13 mm in 08 and 09

12 mm mutual option for 10 or 1 mm buyout

id love to have this guy and will give up 3-4 prospects including vitters to get him

Snydesdale
07-07-2008, 02:51 PM
How long is he locked up for.

CubsFanBudMan74
07-07-2008, 02:53 PM
How long is he locked up for.

no idea

Snydesdale
07-07-2008, 02:53 PM
Has there ever been a rumor about him being on the block.

RammyFanny
07-07-2008, 02:55 PM
He's 32 and counting.

I'd give up Gallagher + a good position prospect or two, but I don't think i'd give them Vitters or anything (not that he can even be traded unless he's a PTBNL).

CubbieSteve
07-07-2008, 02:55 PM
how old is hudson?

He'll be 33 on July 14th. I'd still take him. But I don't know if they will trade him or not. They may trade Texiera. If I was them though, I'd deal Hudson.

thatcubsfan
07-07-2008, 03:02 PM
How long is he locked up for.
He's signed through 2009 with either a mutual/buyout option for 2010

Wrigleyboy25
07-07-2008, 03:03 PM
Tim Hudson rhp
4 years/$47M (2006-09), plus $12M mutual 2010 option

* $10M signing bonus
* 06:$4M, 07:$6M, 08:$13M, 09:$13M, 10:$12M mutual option
($1M buyout)
* signed extension 3/05
* 4 years/$9.1M (2001-04), plus $6M 2005 club option
o $0.1M signing bonus
o 01:$0.5M, 02:$0.85M, 03:$2.7M, 04:$4.55M, 05:$6M club option ($0.4M buyout)
o escalators increased 2005 club option to $6.5M
o $50,000 All Star award bonus
o signed 8/00
* drafted 1997 (6-185)
* agent: Paul Cohen
* ML service: 8.119

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/atlanta-braves_15.html

CubsFanBudMan74
07-07-2008, 03:05 PM
:laugh:

thatcubsfan
07-07-2008, 03:06 PM
I think Gallagher, Hoffpauair, and Murton could get it done maybe a PTBNL as well.

CubbieSteve
07-07-2008, 03:08 PM
^ Probably will have to be more than that. I would think Pie would be included, they need a CF. I would guess Gally, Pie, Marshall/Hill, Murton.

cubbieswin
07-07-2008, 03:10 PM
Love the idea of going after Hudson, so how about Hudson plus either Harden or Burnett...Think Hendry could pull it off if he really wants to, since Atlanta is looking for outfield help, and oakland and toronto need help everywhere....Rotation of Big Z, Hudson, Harden/Burnett/ , Dempster, Lilly...That would definitely outshine the C.C. move by Brewers....go cubs, go Hendry , earn your paycheck!!! Any thoughts of how hendry could pull off both trades, please post...

CubbieSteve
07-07-2008, 03:17 PM
I don't see us adding two big pitchers right now.

Snydesdale
07-07-2008, 03:43 PM
They might not ask for vitters they drafted Jon Gilmore at third base last year.

Snydesdale
07-07-2008, 03:46 PM
No way to get Hudson and harden but possibly Hudson and Burnett.

davidfox11
07-07-2008, 03:56 PM
no way he is worth more than our current AAAA players

davidfox11
07-07-2008, 03:58 PM
my last post was in reference to :

I think Gallagher, Hoffpauair, and Murton could get it done maybe a PTBNL as well.

davidfox11
07-07-2008, 04:00 PM
since he is signed so reasonably would take a hefty package for him

jiggin
07-07-2008, 04:04 PM
good luck. I don't think Hudson or Haren are realistic possibilities without giving up an incredible amount of the cubs future via prospects. I think the options have to be more realistic if you don't want the cubs being fleeced in a deal.

zambo4president
07-07-2008, 04:11 PM
hudson would be nice, i don`t really see it happening though.

BDawk4Prez
07-07-2008, 04:14 PM
Hudson in cubbie blue = Sexy!!!!

Cubsfan87
07-07-2008, 05:07 PM
Marshall or Gallagher, EPatt, Pie. End of story, it should work.

PRETTY BIRD
07-07-2008, 08:08 PM
not a good deal

PRETTY BIRD
07-07-2008, 08:09 PM
Marshall or Gallagher, EPatt, Pie. End of story, it should work.

:confused:

PRETTY BIRD
07-07-2008, 08:10 PM
Hudson in cubbie blue = Sexy!!!!

seems like you have a queer eye for the straight guy:smoking:

TrialNError04
07-07-2008, 08:24 PM
I think Gallagher, Hoffpauair, and Murton could get it done maybe a PTBNL as well.


Sorry but your talking about a legitimate ace for a DH, 4th outfielder and a mid level pitching prospect. Unless your player to be named later is Vitters this deal has no chance of getting done.

rcal10
07-08-2008, 07:01 AM
I don't think the Cubs will deal Vitters and Gallagher. But Hoffpieur is not someone of value. Maybe Gallagher, Ceda, Murton and another mid level prospect can get it done. Both Gallagher and Ceda are higher end guys and Murton can help now.

Pecos
07-08-2008, 07:50 AM
Hudson won't happen. With the Braves losing pitching staff to age and injury, they'll need to keep Hudson to be the anchor to a new, young starting rotation.

Glavin is back in Atlanta to end his career there. Mike Hampton stays on the DL. John Smoltz, even though he wasn't still in the rotation, is probably also done after the most recent surgery.

Of the young guys the Braves have, Jurrjens has looked good, and that's about it, at least on a consistent basis. I see the Braves going shopping for quality starters in the off season, not selling off the one real ace they have left.

ggross
07-08-2008, 08:58 AM
I don't see why the Braves would want to part with Hudson, especially for the names mentioned in this thread. Atlanta can still field a competitive team - even if you rule them out for this year (and they're only 6 back) - they are not that far away. Why would they let go of a very reasonably priced ace and go back to square one with their staff? If they were to do that, you can bet they'd be asking for more than a Murton, Pie, Gally type deal.

Cub_StuckinSTL
07-08-2008, 09:10 AM
I don't see why the Braves would want to part with Hudson, especially for the names mentioned in this thread. Atlanta can still field a competitive team - even if you rule them out for this year (and they're only 6 back) - they are not that far away. Why would they let go of a very reasonably priced ace and go back to square one with their staff? If they were to do that, you can bet they'd be asking for more than a Murton, Pie, Gally type deal.

I really dont see ATL making the playoffs at all this year