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310Casper
07-07-2008, 12:00 AM
This might be a bit early, but looking ahead is never a bad thing.

With so much money coming off the books this offseason, Ned Colleti is going to be be given a blank check and allowed to spend it wildly.

Kent will most likely retire, gone.
Lowe will not resign, he wants to play for a team that gives him run support and a better chance at another ring, gone.
Nomar is toast, walking clinic, and way past his prime, gone.
Furcal is great...when healthy. We need to find us another SS who can stay healthy, gone.

Those 4 guys alone coming off the payroll are gonna give us spending money for players like C.C Sabathia, Orlando Hudson (2b) and Orlando Cabrera (SS).
IF we can sign those 3 guys (CC, Hudson, Cabrera) this offseason, I'd say we are pretty much set. I think DeWitt is gonna improve as this season goes along, I like him at 3b for now.

Imagine this lineup:
1) Orlando Cabrera
2) Orlando Hudson
3) Ethier
4) Kemp
5) Andruw
6) Martin
7) Loney
8) DeWitt
9) Pitchers Spot

Rotation:
1) CC
2) Bills
3) Kuroda
4) Penny
5) Kershaw
(reserve rotation guys - Stults, Park, etc...)

It's obvious that our biggest holes this offseason are going to be 2b, SS, 3b and a closer.

We might also need to look into a new closer. Saito wont last too long at his age and Brox needs to work on more pitches if he wants to be our "future closer"

Plus, keep in mind that the FOLLOWING offseason, we get rid of Schmidt and Andruw's contracts, therefore giving us more spending money!



Anyway, here is a listing off free agents come this November.











Catchers
Rod Barajas (33)
Michael Barrett (32)
Johnny Estrada (33)
Jason Kendall (35) - club option for '09; vests with 110 games played in '08
Paul Lo Duca (37)
Miguel Olivo (30) - $2.7MM club option for '09 with a $0.1MM buyout
Ivan Rodriguez (37)
David Ross (32)
Jason Varitek (37)
Gregg Zaun (38)

First basemen
Ben Broussard (32)
Sean Casey (34)
Tony Clark (37)
Carlos Delgado (37) - $16MM mutual option for '09 with a $4MM buyout
Nomar Garciaparra (35)
Jason Giambi (38) - $22MM club option for '09 with a $5MM buyout
Scott Hatteberg (39)
Eric Hinske (31)
Doug Mientkiewicz (35)
Kevin Millar (37)
Richie Sexson (34)
Mark Teixeira (29)

Second basemen
Ray Durham (37)
Mark Ellis (32)
Marcus Giles (31)
Mark Grudzielanek (39)
Orlando Hudson (31)
Tadahito Iguchi (34)
Jeff Kent (41)
Felipe Lopez (29)
Mark Loretta (37)
Aaron Miles (32)
Jose Valentin (39)

Shortstops
Orlando Cabrera (34)
David Eckstein (34)
Adam Everett (32)
Rafael Furcal (31)
Cristian Guzman (31)
Cesar Izturis (29)
Felipe Lopez (29)
Edgar Renteria (33) - $11MM club option for '09 with a $3MM buyout
Juan Uribe (30)
Omar Vizquel (42) - $5.2MM club option for '09 with a $0.3MM buyout

Third basemen
Casey Blake (35)
Hank Blalock (28) - $6.2MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout
Joe Crede (31)
Morgan Ensberg (33)
Nomar Garciaparra (35)
Wes Helms (33) - $3.75MM club option for '09
Chipper Jones (37) - $8-11MM vesting option for '09
Dallas McPherson (27)

Left fielders
Moises Alou (42)
Garret Anderson (37) - $14MM club option for '09 with a $3MM buyout
Milton Bradley (31)
Emil Brown (34)
Pat Burrell (32)
Adam Dunn (29)
Cliff Floyd (36) - $2.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout
Luis Gonzalez (41)
Raul Ibanez (37)
Jacque Jones (34)
Kevin Mench (31)
Jason Michaels (33) - $2.6MM club option for '09
Craig Monroe (32)
Jay Payton (36)
Wily Mo Pena (27) - $5MM club option or $2MM player option for '09
Manny Ramirez (37) - $20MM club option for '09
Juan Rivera (30)

Center fielders
Rocco Baldelli (27)
Mike Cameron (36) - $10MM club option for '09 with a $750K buyout
Jim Edmonds (39)
Jacque Jones (34)
Mark Kotsay (33)
Corey Patterson (29)

Right fielders
Bobby Abreu (35)
Casey Blake (35)
Milton Bradley (31)
Cliff Floyd (36) - $2.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout
Brian Giles (38) - $9MM club option for '09 with a $3MM buyout
Ken Griffey Jr. (39) - $16.5MM club option for '09 with a $4MM buyout
Vladimir Guerrero (33) - $15MM club option for '09 with a $3MM buyout
Jacque Jones (34)
Bobby Kielty (32)
Brad Wilkerson (32)

DHs
Milton Bradley (31)
Pat Burrell (32)
Adam Dunn (29)
Cliff Floyd (36) - $2.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout
Jason Giambi (38) - $22MM club option for '09 with $5MM buyout
Vladimir Guerrero (33) - $15MM club option for '09 with a $3MM buyout
Raul Ibanez (37)
Manny Ramirez (37) - $20MM club option for '09
Juan Rivera (30)
Mike Sweeney (35)
Frank Thomas (41) - $10MM option for '09; vests with 376 PAs in '08
Jim Thome (38) - $13MM club option for '09 with $3MM buyout
Jose Vidro (34) - vesting option for '09

Starting pitchers
Jeremy Affeldt (30)
Tony Armas Jr. (31)
Kris Benson (33)
A.J. Burnett (32) - can opt out after '08 season
Paul Byrd (38)
Roger Clemens (46)
Matt Clement (33) - $8.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout
Ryan Dempster (32)
Chad Durbin (31)
Josh Fogg (32)
Jon Garland (29)
Tom Glavine (43)
Mike Hampton (36)
Mark Hendrickson (35)
Livan Hernandez (34)
Orlando Hernandez (43)
Jason Jennings (30)
Randy Johnson (45)
John Lackey (30) - $9MM club option for '09 with a $0.5MM buyout
Jon Lieber (39)
Esteban Loaiza (37) - $7.5MM club option for '09 with a $0.375MM buyout
Braden Looper (34)
Derek Lowe (36)
Greg Maddux (43)
Pedro Martinez (37)
Jamie Moyer (46)
Mark Mulder (31) - $11MM club option for '09 with a $1.5MM buyout
Mike Mussina (40)
Carl Pavano (33) - $13MM club option for '09 with a $1.95MM buyout
Brad Penny (31) - $8.75MM club option for '09 with a $2MM buyout
Odalis Perez (32)
Oliver Perez (27)
Andy Pettitte (37)
Mark Prior (27)
Kenny Rogers (44)
C.C. Sabathia (28)
Curt Schilling (42)
Ben Sheets (30)
John Smoltz (42) - $12MM club option for '09
Brett Tomko (36)
Josh Towers (32)
Steve Trachsel (38)
Tim Wakefield (42) - perpetual $4MM club option
Kip Wells (32)
Woody Williams (42)
Randy Wolf (32)

Closers
Joe Borowski (38)
Brian Fuentes (33)
Eric Gagne (33)
Trevor Hoffman (41)
Jason Isringhausen (36)
Todd Jones (41)
Brandon Lyon (29)
Francisco Rodriguez (27)
Kerry Wood (32)

Middle relievers
Jeremy Affeldt (30)
Doug Brocail (42) - club option for '09
Shawn Chacon (31)
Juan Cruz (28)
Alan Embree (39) - $3MM club option for '09
Scott Eyre (37)
Kyle Farnsworth (33)
Keith Foulke (35)
Aaron Fultz (35)
Tom Gordon (41) - $4.5MM club option for '09 with a $1MM buyout
Eddie Guardado (38)
LaTroy Hawkins (36)
Matt Herges (39) - club option for '09
Bob Howry (35)
Steve Kline (36)
Damaso Marte (34) - $6MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout
Trever Miller (36) - $2MM club option for '09 with a $0.4MM buyout
Guillermo Mota (35)
Will Ohman (31)
Darren Oliver (38)
Al Reyes (38)
Dennys Reyes (32)
Juan Rincon (30)
Russ Springer (40)
Mike Stanton (42)
Mike Timlin (43)
Salomon Torres (37) - $3.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.3MM buyout
David Weathers (39)
Dan Wheeler (31)
Matt Wise (33)

TrueBlueLA
07-07-2008, 01:06 AM
First of all Colletti isn't gonna wait until the offseason to get a shortstop. He's probably gonna trade for someone mediocre like Jack Wilson and we'll be stuck with him for a couple of years. I do, however, like the idea of the O-Dog coming to LA. But, deep down I want Kent to play another year...

In case you haven't heard Sabathia is a Brewer. This would have been a bad deal for the Dodgers anyway. We need to keep the kids. Personally, I have my eye on Ben Sheets this offseason.

I can't believe you put Penny fourth in your projected rotation. The season is only half over, he still has a chance to win a lot of games.

Assuming Colletti does trade for Wilson my '09 lineup looks something like this

1. Pierre
2. Kemp
3. Hudson
4. Jones
5. Loney
6. Martin
7. Wilson
8. LaRoche/Dewitt

Rotation stacks up this way

1. Penny
2. Sheets
3. Bills
4. Kuroda
5. Kershaw

The only good looking FA closer is K-Rod. Look for this guy to be a Yankee in '09.

'Ton was throwing 100 MPH today. That's the only pitch you need to be a closer. How about this though? Kuo as a closer. He is lights out in relief.

Tragedy
07-07-2008, 03:03 AM
The only good looking FA closer is K-Rod. Look for this guy to be a Yankee in '09.
Why is that? He's not going to take a SU job for the Yankees for two years before being converted back to Closer. Remember, Mo signed a three year deal this past offseason.

I heard the mention of Orlando Hudson. I'm all for it. The guy is a clubhouse leader, plays hard, and does the small things that you need.

Bleeds Blue
07-07-2008, 03:17 AM
what is this talk about jones batting 4th??? who says he can even play baseball still?

anyways the obvious choices that i would like the dodger to go after would be k rod, sabathia, sheets, o dawg, and o hudson. hopefully we can get some of those guys. the 3b situation is tricky. do we trust laroche/dewitt to handle it or should we go after crede?

DodgerDawg55
07-07-2008, 03:53 AM
ODawg sounds nice.

In_Ned_I_Trust
07-07-2008, 04:02 AM
Why is that? He's not going to take a SU job for the Yankees for two years before being converted back to Closer. Remember, Mo signed a three year deal this past offseason.

I heard the mention of Orlando Hudson. I'm all for it. The guy is a clubhouse leader, plays hard, and does the small things that you need.

Dude are you a Dodgers fan or just making conversation? I like what you have to say but it always seems so middle of the road.

dodgerblues
07-07-2008, 06:01 AM
Orlando Hudson would be great to add to the team.

But if we decide to spend more money on pitching then watch for Tony Abreu getting a shot. If not him then Hu or maybe Ivan DeJesus could be coming up. LaRoche, if he's still with us could play 2B if he works at it this offseason. SS is going to be vacant, unless Furcal resigns with us for cheap.

DeWitt, Furcal, LaRoche and Loney in the infield is solid. DeWitt has been slumping as of late though...

southerndodgerf
07-07-2008, 09:25 AM
IF we are truly going to be competive next season, we need to be prepared to make some trades as well as dip our toes in the FA market.

I do believe that Lowe is as good as gone. I will take the two draft picks for him unless some team out there is willing to give us some VERY nice kids for him right now. Yes, Lowe will help IF we get to the postseason but I think that at this point we need to figure out how much he is worth to other teams and work from there. We have Penny coming back and Park/Stults have looked good.

In my opinion, we need to target the following in the offseason: Sabathia--I am not really in favor of long contracts for pitchers but this guy has proven he is an ace EVERYWHERE. He is not Zito. He has shut down the competition in both leagues and has the size to throw that hard. This is the ace we have been waiting for. Next year Bills will be a number two (not that he is not right now). Kuroda has proven that he is a legit number 3. Penny fills in at number 4 (though the recent "pain" does bother me a bit). And number 5 in your rotation but number one in your hearts is ClayK. He is the type to get better with every send down. Asking him to stay around 4.2 should not be an issue...and he will only improve.

I like the idea of going after Hudson. BUT, he may have priced himself out of the second base job. It was reported that he wanted 15 from the dbacks but he denied that. Still, the fact that talks have stalled tells me he is asking alot. He is great with a glove and does add leadership and offense to the mix. I would only be willing to go 4/40 for the guy--maybe with a team option for a 5th. Make him earn his keep.

I think a better option is Uggla. I know that he is on fire right now but I think that the Marlins have priced themsleves into an expensive arbitration period. I think that 3 specs could get it done. This is a guy that could potentially man 2nd for the next 10 years. This would go with the core group that we already have in place.

The following few are guys that I would throw an offer at and see what sticks: AJ Burnett--is good when he is on. Jon Garland--Has the potential to come back as a great number 3. Pedro Martinez--Chances are NY lets him go and he either retires or goes looking...he could turn it around in LA. Manny Ramirez--his club option may not be automatic after his recent pushing incident. Adam Dunn--I know..I know the Ks. However, he has a career OBP of OVER .360. That means for evert k, he gets on twice. He is not afraid of taking a walk. He will hit us 40. He has crappy D but has an okay arm for LF.

I know that we have a logjam in the OF but I think we need to face facts that we are probably losing one of our current playing kids in the offseason. Ned has managed to avoid trading them but it is apparent this cannot go on forever. I would have cried Ethier until his recent hitting bonanza. I am starting to wonder if he suddenly "found it". Needless to say, this offseason will be telling. I am not sure that Ned will be around to work it.

G2BOAT
07-07-2008, 08:06 PM
IF Ned is still our GM we might be getting....

Ray Durham- He's only 37 he'll fill a need at Second base, he's 4 years younger than Kent, and he provides power.
Omar Vizquel-He's 42 and he provides that leadership we need and a Gold Glove.
Livan Hernandez-Only 34, is having a good year this year and he was a Giant.
Paul Lo Duca-37 years old, Ned wants a backup catcher who was on the Mitchell report.

KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANT, THIS IS MY PREDICTIONS OF WHAT NED WILL DO IN THE OFFSEASON, IF NED IS STILL OUR GM.

Az_Dodgers_Fan
07-08-2008, 02:24 PM
O-DOG! Bring him in. He's one of the best 2b in the league. Not elite, but just as good as Kent offensively (now days) and 100% better with the glove. Plus he's a leader.

Tapptout
07-09-2008, 01:45 PM
I take Hudson for the right price i heard he wanted like 15+ a year. If that's the case No, thank you.
If it was a blank check than i say bring in Sheets and C.C.

USCFOOTBALL
07-09-2008, 02:36 PM
I just hope we dont resign furcal and dont bring back Gagme. I think McCourt is going to be cheap and just unload pay roll. And throw us a bone with a signing of some mediocre talent over a short term deal, like all the other signings he's made.

dusto_magnifico
07-09-2008, 02:40 PM
I'm pretty sure Colletti is done as a Dodger.

80 Million on the DL.

Ridiculous trade ideas!

Logan or Ng or both should be able to do a much better job next offseason! I think we should revisit the Furcal idea and maybe add a bat in the outfield. Cut Jones, trade Pierre and Penny. Find a way to add Brian Roberts and CC and were set!

Furcal
Roberts
Martin
Vlad
Loney
Kemp
Ethier
Dewitt/Laroche
P

CC
Bills
Kuroda
Kershaw
Elbert/Stults/McDonald

Saito
Broxton
Beimel
Wade
Park
Kuo

BlueMouse
07-09-2008, 03:57 PM
^ How did Vlad get in there?

USCTROJANS21
07-09-2008, 04:11 PM
^^ ya..can't imagine that happening.

dusto_magnifico
07-09-2008, 05:19 PM
Vlad has a team option next year about 14 million... It should be exercised... I'm just being as hopeful in thinking that Pierre will be gone, Furcal will stay, Jones will be cut, CC signed, and Roberts acquired. Not to mention Ethier and Kemp getting constant playing time. This is just my plan. In reality I see Colletti (if he is around) getting Durham to play second, and Sidney Ponson to fill in as a starter, but give him a 4 year 72 million dollar contract. I wouldn't be surprised.

USCTROJANS21
07-09-2008, 05:21 PM
^ ya vlad will probably still be an angel...but can you imagine an ethier...vlad...Kemp outfiled?? talk about some rocket arms...no one would tag up on us!

AllTheWay
07-10-2008, 02:30 AM
Id like to bring furcal back......

everyone else can be dumped. Orlando Hudson would be nice, but we still need a franchise hitter. Its time to trade some propects

the2ndbeaner
07-16-2008, 04:54 PM
yah good idea good thread

Mr Blue
07-16-2008, 05:56 PM
Dude are you a Dodgers fan or just making conversation? I like what you have to say but it always seems so middle of the road.Gotta give ya props dude, that is one CLASSIC sig. Sanchez will be the 3rd Heisman winner to come out of The OC in the Uncle Pete era.

FIGHT ON!!!! :clap:

Mr Blue
07-16-2008, 06:28 PM
Here is my plan for success:

1 Fire Ned before he does any more damage. Ditto for Conte.

2 Re-sign Fookie, hopefully at a low base plus incentive-laden contract.

3 Sign CC or Sheets

4 Sign O-Dawg

5 Drop-kick Jones as far away as possible. Eat next year's contract, just as we are devouring this year's.

6 Trade DLowe at the trading deadline when he has maximum value, possibly for Roberts.

7 Buh-Bye Kent.

The 6-4-3
07-16-2008, 06:57 PM
Here is my plan for success:

1 Fire Ned before he does any more damage. Ditto for Conte.

2 Re-sign Fookie, hopefully at a low base plus incentive-laden contract.

3 Sign CC or Sheets

4 Sign O-Dawg

5 Drop-kick Jones as far away as possible. Eat next year's contract, just as we are devouring this year's.

6 Trade DLowe at the trading deadline when he has maximum value, possibly for Roberts.


7 Buh-Bye Kent.

ya thats sounds just about right.
but probably not with the Derke Lowe trade, dont see it happening

dj_jewlz
07-16-2008, 07:46 PM
It's been a long while since i've posted on here, so let me dust off this keyboard.

Coming off the books next year:

Raffy: 13M
D Low: 10M
Kent: 9M
Nomah: 8.5M
Berroa: 4.75M
Saito: 2M
and a couple of other small contracts here and there, we'll actually have about $47M to play with on free agents.

Moves that need to be done.
1. This needs to be done now!!! Trade for Dallas Mc Pherson. You might as why? Have you seen what he is doing in AAA. .296avg 32HR 71RBI 1.078OPS. He would not cost much to trade for. He is a 3B which we need BAD!!! And unlike Dewitt and LaRoche he is showing his power. The guy is stuck in AAA for the marlins one of our really good trading partners. And hes a free agent next year. Guys for the right price I pick him up before the trade dealine and give him a shot at 3B this year or pick him up as a free agent the next! Cuz other than Crede there really isn't much of a selection for 3B. And did I mention he wouldn't cost much player wise if we trade for him or salary wise if we sign him!

2. Trade D-Low B4 the deadline for some specs. Maybe to florida for McPherson and some other specs. Then bring Kershaw back up. With Penny and hopefully a healthy Schmidt coming back we'll be in good shape in our starting pitching department.

3. Sign CC or Sheets and extend Penny. Penny is good and young. Look at his last three seasons and that tells you we should extend him.

4. Re-sign Raffy or get Christian Guzman. No OC ( Cabrera) he's three years older and not as good as those other two wit the stick.

5. Re-Sign Saito

6. No to Hudson, let Hu, Abreu, DeJesus, and Dewitt fight it out.

7. Shore up the bully. Re-Sign Saito for one more year. Try to resign beimel but I think he's as good as gone. But there will b some decent releivers out there: Borowski (Cle), Lyon (AZ), Fultz (Cle), Fuentes (Col). My own opinion we target Lyon.

8. Sign Martin Long term!!! We can't spent too much remember we need money if we plan on keeping these kids long term. Kemp, Eithier, Loney, Broxton, Bills will all need to get paid eventually!!!

Line Up for 09:

Furcal/Guzman SS
Pierre LF
Kemp/Ethier RF
Martin C
McPherson/Crede/Laroche 3B
Loney 1B
Jones CF
Second Baseman who ever it is

Starting Rotation:
Sheets/CC
Penny
Bills
Kuroda
Schmidt
Kershaw

Bully:
Saito
Lyon
Broxton
Meloan
Proctor

And we would still have Elbert, McDonald and a few other down in the minors.

UCLADodger
08-24-2008, 12:46 PM
Dodgers have targeted Sabathia as winter prize
C.C. Sabathia

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The Los Angeles Dodgers might be more likely to sign CC Sabathia than Casey Blake this winter.

That, at least, is the way Blake sees it. The two men played together for five seasons in Cleveland, before the Indians traded Sabathia to the Milwaukee Brewers and Blake to the Dodgers last month. The left-hander is expected to command at least $100 million as the top starting pitcher in free agency, and Blake said Sabathia has shared no inside information about his preferred destinations. Sabathia hails from the Bay Area and has said he is shopping for a home in Southern California.

"I think he wants to be close to home," Blake said. "I think it would be in his best interest to stay in the National League."

Why?

"Just because he rakes," Blake said.

Indeed, Sabathia hit a 440-foot home run at Dodger Stadium this season. Of the three NL clubs in California, the San Diego Padres are expected to slash their payroll, and the San Francisco Giants might shy away from a large contract for a pitcher after their $126-million experience with Barry Zito.

dodgers07champs
08-24-2008, 01:03 PM
I think this offseason will come down to what route we take on two priced free agents. Since the odds of a team being able to sign an ace like CC Sabathia, and one of the top hitters like Manny Ramirez in one offseason are slim to none, we will have to decide which route to take. I love what Manny has brought to this team, and know that we are starved for power bats, but I think you have to go with the guy that is 8 years younger. We lacked a true ace for some years, yeah Penny was 3rd in the Cy Young voting last year, but as usual he crumbled in the 2nd half when we needed him the most. I am pretty sure Lowe is gone, along with Penny. So, I think our rotation could look like this if we sign CC..CC-Billingsley-Kuroda-Kershaw-and hopefully Mcdonald gets a shot. That'd be one of the younger, more exciting rotations in all of baseball.

The biggest issue I see with us are our holes at 3rd and 2nd base. I am all for signing Orlando Hudson, but it is apparent that he wants alot of money, and he is way too injury prone. Since the 2nd base market outside of Hudson is so weak and old, I say we sign a SS and move him over to 2nd. Sign Orlando Cabrera, and resign Furcal. For our last move I would try and get Joe Crede for cheap to provide power at 3rd base..our lineup would be Furcal-Cabrera-Kemp-Crede-Ethier-Loney-Martin-Pierre/Jones..rotation CC-Billingsley-Kuroda-Kershaw-Mcdonald.

doyerfan59
08-24-2008, 01:20 PM
the offseason will be dependent on if we make it to the postseason and how far we make it

If we make it pretty far in, we resign Manny i believe at whatever cost even if its a bad idea, but just so Colleti looks smart

we resign fookie, and sign one more pitcher along with a 2b (or maybetrade for one)


If we dont make it far in the postseason, we dont bring back manny..we get stuck with Pierre/Jones, and we go for a cheap 3B and just sign a pitcher..maybe not even signing a 2B and just trying from within

banglawiz
08-24-2008, 02:24 PM
I think this offseason will come down to what route we take on two priced free agents. Since the odds of a team being able to sign an ace like CC Sabathia, and one of the top hitters like Manny Ramirez in one offseason are slim to down, we will have to decide which route to take. I love what Manny has brought to this team, and know that we are starved for power bats, but I think you have to go with the guy that is 8 years younger. We lacked a true ace for some years, yeah Penny was 3rd in the Cy Young voting last year, but as usual he crumbled in the 2nd half when we needed him the most. I am pretty sure Lowe is gone, along with Penny. So, I think our rotation could look like this if we sign CC..CC-Billingsley-Kuroda-Kershaw-and hopefully Mcdonald gets a shot. That'd be one of the younger, more exciting rotations in all of baseball.

The biggest issue I see with us are our holes at 3rd and 2nd base. I am all for signing Orlando Hudson, but it is apparent that he wants alot of money, and he is way too injury prone. Since the 2nd base market outside of Hudson is so weak and old, I say we sign a SS and move him over to 2nd. Sign Orlando Cabrera, and resign Furcal. For our last move I would try and get Joe Crede for cheap to provide power at 3rd base..our lineup would be Furcal-Cabrera-Kemp-Crede-Ethier-Loney-Martin-Pierre/Jones..rotation CC-Billingsley-Kuroda-Kershaw-Mcdonald.

I agree with ur comments but...

i think this is the off season where we finally decides that that our core is ready to contend with some proven vets in the mix.

i think the chances are little more then slim or none there is a good chance that we might sign Manny and CC.

It all depends on MCourt and how much he wants to spend. he might want to spend this offseason after seeing what impact manny had in the attendance and him liking former boston players. and cc could help fill the sits even more sell out evreytime or most of the he pitches and a cy young candidate.

we have roughly about $45 to $50mill coming of the books this off season.

Lets say Manny gets a 20-23mil contract for 4 years.
and cc gets 20-22 mill 5 years plus club options for 2 or 3 years after that. he might take a hometown discount by taking a 5 year deal with club option rater then talking longer contracts elsewhere (just a thought).

so that would be about 40-45 million mostly about the amount comming off the book.

than we resign Raffy for 10-12 mill with incentive for 3 or 4 years with buyout in case of injury.

With a healthy Raffy in the lead off spot and Manny in the clean up with our kids like Kemp, Ethier, Martin and Loney we will have a very good offence and a solid rotation with CC, Bills,Keruda, Kershaw, Mcdonald/Elbert. (penny is done imo.)

that takes our spending to about 10-15 million over this years contracts and after next season in Just andrew and Schmidt we will have 37 mill coming off so we will have about 20-25 million extra payroll just for this year.

the rest of the wholes we could cover with innovative trades and in house moves for that i want Ned 2 be fired but probably wont happen.

mcpeepants23200
08-24-2008, 02:29 PM
I think we resign Manny unless Jones turns it around dramatically in the next month. We ship Pierre out and eat at least half of his contract(Still saves us almost 15 million). We resign Raffy(there really isn't a worthwhile shortstop out there besides him) and maybe pursue a third baseman. That leaves with only one hole, second base, which can be filled from within by Dewitt, Dejesus, Hu or Abreu. We pick up Pennys option, at worst he could be a great setup man, and see if he can return to form next year. That leaves us with one hole left in the rotation which can be filled by Stults, McDonald or maybe even Schmidt.

Scotch Johnson
08-24-2008, 04:05 PM
I think we resign Manny unless Jones turns it around dramatically in the next month. We ship Pierre out and eat at least half of his contract(Still saves us almost 15 million). We resign Raffy(there really isn't a worthwhile shortstop out there besides him) and maybe pursue a third baseman. That leaves with only one hole, second base, which can be filled from within by Dewitt, Dejesus, Hu or Abreu. We pick up Pennys option, at worst he could be a great setup man, and see if he can return to form next year. That leaves us with one hole left in the rotation which can be filled by Stults, McDonald or maybe even Schmidt.

I'm wondering if it would be worth it to try Penny out as closer? Doubt Saito is back next year.... And Broxton can be dominant, but shaky at times. Could be worth a shot.....

Mr Blue
08-24-2008, 04:33 PM
I think this offseason will come down to what route we take on two priced free agents. Since the odds of a team being able to sign an ace like CC Sabathia, and one of the top hitters like Manny Ramirez in one offseason are slim to down, we will have to decide which route to take. I love what Manny has brought to this team, and know that we are starved for power bats, but I think you have to go with the guy that is 8 years younger. We lacked a true ace for some years, yeah Penny was 3rd in the Cy Young voting last year, but as usual he crumbled in the 2nd half when we needed him the most. I am pretty sure Lowe is gone, along with Penny. So, I think our rotation could look like this if we sign CC..CC-Billingsley-Kuroda-Kershaw-and hopefully Mcdonald gets a shot. That'd be one of the younger, more exciting rotations in all of baseball.

The biggest issue I see with us are our holes at 3rd and 2nd base. I am all for signing Orlando Hudson, but it is apparent that he wants alot of money, and he is way too injury prone. Since the 2nd base market outside of Hudson is so weak and old, I say we sign a SS and move him over to 2nd. Sign Orlando Cabrera, and resign Furcal. For our last move I would try and get Joe Crede for cheap to provide power at 3rd base..our lineup would be Furcal-Cabrera-Kemp-Crede-Ethier-Loney-Martin-Pierre/Jones..rotation CC-Billingsley-Kuroda-Kershaw-Mcdonald.
Good stuff, but I'd still like to get Roberts at second if we can't get the O-Dawg.:)

N.Z's #1 Dodger
08-24-2008, 04:57 PM
I ****ing hate these threads.

Mr Blue
08-24-2008, 05:07 PM
I ****ing hate these threads.I totally agree. They should be banned until the Hot Stove League is open for bidness. They are a bloody waste of time.:rolleyes:

blueplatespcial
08-24-2008, 06:26 PM
Here is my plan for success:

1 Fire Ned before he does any more damage. Ditto for Conte.

2 Re-sign Fookie, hopefully at a low base plus incentive-laden contract.

3 Sign CC or Sheets

4 Sign O-Dawg

5 Drop-kick Jones as far away as possible. Eat next year's contract, just as we are devouring this year's.

6 Trade DLowe at the trading deadline when he has maximum value, possibly for Roberts.

7 Buh-Bye Kent.

Sounds good to me, Mr. B.
One more thing - we've got four starting OF'ers - so what do you do about the Pierre situation?

UCLADodger
08-24-2008, 06:56 PM
The reason this thread has new life was because of an article in which Casey Blake said CC would like to come to L.A.....

dodgerblues
08-24-2008, 07:14 PM
The reason this thread has new life was because of an article in which Casey Blake said CC would like to come to L.A.....

It would make perfect sense for him. I watched cribs on Sabathia's house and he seems like the kinda guy who would love living in LA. He did grow up in the bay area and I'm sure LA would love his presence as well. Hopefully the Angels won't take him away from us.. All I know is that he's going to cost a team a lot of money.

iggypop123
08-24-2008, 07:20 PM
The reason this thread has new life was because of an article in which Casey Blake said CC would like to come to L.A.....

also came back cause the team is stinking it up again and it looks like playoffs arent happening