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SeoulBeatz
07-06-2008, 08:27 PM
So who would you rather have?

All these players are 2nd tier wing players meaning no Superstars here. No kobe's or Brons or even Caron's

All play SG or SF and within the same height.

its just for fun.

cus i wanna see when people take bias away which player really shines through his numbers.


So who would you rather have?



Player A: 19.4 ppg/ 6.0 rpg/ 3.5 apg/ 2.1 spg/ 0.9 bpg/ .449 FG%

Player B: 21.7 ppg/ 4.5 rpg/ 5.8 apg/ 1.0 spg/ 0.2 bpg/ .432 FG%

Player C: 19.9 ppg/ 5.4 rpg/ 4.8 apg/ 2.1 spg/ 0.7 bpg/ .456 FG%

Player D: 22.7 ppg/ 4.3 rpg/ 3.4 apg/ 0.9 spg/ 0.2 bpg/ .442 FG%


VOTING HAS CLOSED!!!.....

ALRIGHT HERE ARE THE NAMES!!!



PLAYER A: Gerald Wallace, SF, Bobcats, 26years old.

PLAYER B: Joe Johnson, SG, Hawks, 27 years old.

PLAYER C: Andre Iguodala, SG, Sixers, 24 years old.

PLAYER D: Michael Redd, SG, Bucks, 28 years old.



Andre Iguodala recieved all but three votes.

Gerald Wallace recieved one vote.

Michael Redd recieved one vote.

Joe Johnson recieved one vote.


Funny... cus even though Im a sixers fan, id say Joe Johnson is the best out of the group but he only recieved 1 vote.



thanks for participating guys!

ink
07-06-2008, 08:28 PM
Definitely. I would not build a team around wing players. Build around bigs. 2nd tier wing players are more than good enough to win championships. Player A or C would be great.

lalakobe24
07-06-2008, 08:29 PM
whats the point of this

anyways its player c for me

kazzy4080
07-06-2008, 08:44 PM
player c

Raptors27
07-06-2008, 08:44 PM
Player C. Since he's my fav player out of these 4 with player A being my 2nd fav of the 4.

Lakerfrk
07-06-2008, 08:46 PM
No question, player C

daleja424
07-06-2008, 08:52 PM
C

pd7631
07-06-2008, 09:04 PM
I like this thread.....player C all the way

astrosmaniac
07-06-2008, 09:07 PM
C>a>b>d

stawka
07-06-2008, 09:08 PM
I'll go with C, followed closely by A.

BigEric
07-06-2008, 09:17 PM
Player D, I'd want my wing player to score more than anything else.

ink
07-06-2008, 09:33 PM
Player D, I'd want my wing player to score more than anything else.

A recipe for failure unless your player is MJ.

mariotubes
07-06-2008, 09:40 PM
C obviously

sanfranfan1210
07-06-2008, 09:41 PM
Player C

clehmun
07-06-2008, 09:56 PM
i think i'll take player C as well.

also, i'm not sure if anyone of them is manu ginobili, but i'd like him as my 2nd tier wing player if i want to win now.

MGB
07-06-2008, 10:04 PM
Player C.

NBABALLERHOLLER
07-06-2008, 10:06 PM
I am sorry this is stupid. Stats don't mean everything. What about the intangibles. For Christ's sake, Posey looks okay on paper, but he has two rings he actually "deserves".
Here are my reserves:
Steve Nash off the bench for Paul
Kobe off the bench for Wade
Amare off the bench for Dwight Howard
Tim Duncan off the bench for Gasol
Marion off the bench for Tayshaun Prince

NBABALLERHOLLER
07-06-2008, 10:10 PM
3rd string:
Deron Williams
Paul Pierce
Dalembert
Haslem
Posey

And to answer your question I'd take C...but it might change if I knew what position I'm filling. For example these would be mediocre point guards.

t mac and vick
07-06-2008, 10:17 PM
x

SeoulBeatz
07-06-2008, 10:19 PM
x

ha thanks for following the rules pal. id appreciate it if u deleted ur post so u dont ruin this thread... thanks

JordansBulls
07-06-2008, 10:20 PM
A recipe for failure unless your player is MJ.

:nod:

Or really most players in general. As only Kareem, MJ, Shaq and a few others have won titles as scorers. Jordan was the only one to win multiple titles as the scoring leader and he did so quite a few times.

SeoulBeatz
07-06-2008, 10:23 PM
I am sorry this is stupid. Stats don't mean everything. What about the intangibles. For Christ's sake, Posey looks okay on paper, but he has two rings he actually "deserves".
Here are my reserves:
Steve Nash off the bench for Paul
Kobe off the bench for Wade
Amare off the bench for Dwight Howard
Tim Duncan off the bench for Gasol
Marion off the bench for Tayshaun Prince


wait what does this have to do with my post again?

not trying to be rude i just dont understand what ur saying.

NBABALLERHOLLER
07-06-2008, 10:41 PM
I hear what you are saying. The point I was making is that I would not make a choice based on the numbers alone. Most people wouldn't because it leaves out to much relevant information. Things like attitude defense will to win. Your thread only shows that some people might prefer sacrificing a little scoring for percentage or 1-2 rebounds per game or steals or whatever. If doing things in this manner was helpful in any way we would have no need for scouts and coaches could recruit based purely on math. That's just not the way the real world works; it is limiting and therefore meaningless. I would recommend adding turnover percentages and age/experience, injury history. With this additional info I might indulge in balancing hypotheticals but I am a strong believer in heart.

DenButsu
07-06-2008, 11:06 PM
I hear what you are saying. The point I was making is that I would not make a choice based on the numbers alone. Most people wouldn't because it leaves out to much relevant information. Things like attitude defense will to win. Your thread only shows that some people might prefer sacrificing a little scoring for percentage or 1-2 rebounds per game or steals or whatever. If doing things in this manner was helpful in any way we would have no need for scouts and coaches could recruit based purely on math. That's just not the way the real world works; it is limiting and therefore meaningless. I would recommend adding turnover percentages and age/experience, injury history. With this additional info I might indulge in balancing hypotheticals but I am a strong believer in heart.

Well, if you're above "indulging in hypotheticals", then why post in this thread at all when the entire basis of it is a hypothetical question? :eyebrow:

This is unnecessary:


I am sorry this is stupid.

If you don't like a thread idea, then just refrain from posting in it rather than throwing a barb out at the thread poster.

cambovenzi
07-06-2008, 11:45 PM
w/o knowing things like defense, and 3pt% you have to go with player C.

Packersfan
07-07-2008, 12:10 AM
C no question

SeoulBeatz
07-07-2008, 12:11 AM
im gonna reveal the names in a couple hours... so keep voting.

peace

QuaLiThADoN
07-07-2008, 12:45 AM
i'd take b n c because not only do they score but assist wise they contribute nicely

_Sn1P3r_
07-07-2008, 09:50 AM
I would've took C even if I hadn't seen the name.

Ragun
07-07-2008, 10:39 AM
Definitely. I would not build a team around wing players. Build around bigs. 2nd tier wing players are more than good enough to win championships. Player A or C would be great.
:nod: but I dont think Igoudala is a number one option. He could be if he improves mid range shot but as of right now, he would be my number 2 or 3 option.

cambovenzi
07-07-2008, 01:35 PM
it was a little skewed b/c 3pt % wasnt included.
guys like redd and johnson are much better 3pt shooters than iggy, but werent given credit in the stats shown.

ink
07-08-2008, 12:56 AM
Out of those 4 names I would have picked Wallace or Iggy ... and I picked A and C.

IversonIsKrazy
07-08-2008, 01:07 AM
andre w/o a doubt. He's still 24 years old, johnson is 27.

dre1990
07-08-2008, 01:08 AM
Gerald wallace or iggy

superkegger
07-08-2008, 01:21 AM
Regardless of the numbers, I'd probably take Johnson. Redd is a chucker, and I kinda dislike him more and more each day...

Iggy and Wallace put up solid numbers...nice steals and blocks and so on, but Johnson is the best shooter, he may not have the best %, but he's the best shooter, and has a better ability to create his own shot. Plus he's clutch, did you see the first round series vs. the celtics? Right now, to win a game right now, I'll take JJ.

Leftcoast_yg
07-08-2008, 01:24 AM
player A, can score play d and eventually get his shot down plus he blocks forget the avg