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phlp_bj
07-06-2008, 03:03 PM
With point guards getting scooped up via free agency, it is becoming more and more likely that the Heat will have to deal Shawn Marion if they want an elite playmaker, according to HoopsWorld.

Targets could include Andre Miller, Kirk Hinrich or Monta Ellis.

However, they might avoid trading him to a conference foe like the 76ers or Bulls because it could prevent them from making the postseason.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9368

i think this trade would be good for everyone: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=998~829~869~3198~1981~2456~70~ 510&teams=4~14~14~17~14~17~17~4&te=&cash=

Gmen824
07-06-2008, 03:12 PM
If the bulls got marion it'd be over...

michaelb2254
07-06-2008, 03:19 PM
haha at calling Kirk elite. I would be more than happy if they would let us give them Ben G while we're at it. But seriously, I would love to see Marion for Hinrich.

daleja424
07-06-2008, 03:20 PM
Not enough for Miami... maybe this

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2990~829~869~3198~1981~2456~30 30~3032~2165~70~510&teams=14~14~4~17~14~17~17~14~17~4~4&te=&cash=

stevefrancis
07-06-2008, 03:21 PM
the raptors should have kept ford and got marion instead of jermaine i bet raps fans are pissed off.

BigEric
07-06-2008, 03:21 PM
I understand wanting to move Marion, since it's the last year of his contract, but why a PG. Chalmers will be very solid. I think they should shop around for a center.

_Sn1P3r_
07-06-2008, 03:25 PM
That three way trade gives Miami both a C and a PG.

.Sean.
07-06-2008, 03:25 PM
I understand wanting to move Marion, since it's the last year of his contract, but why a PG. Chalmers will be very solid. I think they should shop around for a center.

agreed

Jeff Boyd
07-06-2008, 03:29 PM
They want to win now and Chalmers isnt good enough yet

kylem4711
07-06-2008, 03:34 PM
ill give them brevin knight..... ;)

clehmun
07-06-2008, 03:40 PM
i guess i can understand kirk hinrich, and andre miller.
all i can say about those two is:

kirk hinrich - i think marion is worth more than hinrich, but if teams can get a fair trade, it'll be a good one.

andre miller - i love this guy. but like wade, he's weak at long range shooting. would a backcourt where both guards struggles to hit 3 pointers work?

but i don't get why they would want monta ellis...

monta ellis - this guy is a poor man's wade. he's a undersized scoring two guard. he cannot run the point whatsoever. i love him as a player, but the heat doesn't need two similar players running the backcourt.

king4day
07-06-2008, 05:39 PM
i guess i can understand kirk hinrich, and andre miller.
all i can say about those two is:

kirk hinrich - i think marion is worth more than hinrich, but if teams can get a fair trade, it'll be a good one.

andre miller - i love this guy. but like wade, he's weak at long range shooting. would a backcourt where both guards struggles to hit 3 pointers work?

but i don't get why they would want monta ellis...

monta ellis - this guy is a poor man's wade. he's a undersized scoring two guard. he cannot run the point whatsoever. i love him as a player, but the heat doesn't need two similar players running the backcourt.

You can pretty much eliminate Ellis from this talk since Barons gone. Hinrich makes about 7 mil less than Shawn, so adding another pricy playet will be necessary. I don't know if the Bulls will want to add another long contract player unless they're assured that Marion will resign with them.

TheBatchelor213
07-06-2008, 05:39 PM
gotta get something for Marion, hes gonna walk at seasons end.





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LakerDeftones
07-06-2008, 05:46 PM
Marion for Nash :D

STAT32
07-06-2008, 05:53 PM
Hmm Marion for Kirk and say Ty Thomas isn't too bad for either side.

phlp_bj
07-06-2008, 05:54 PM
i dont think the bulls will be willing to trade tyrus thomas. i also dont think the nets would trade one of their best centers.

Vidball
07-06-2008, 05:59 PM
Why trade Marion for Miller/Hinrich when they can go after a true elite player next offseason when Marion's contract comes off the books? Wade, Beasley & Boozer isn't bad at all...use the MLE this year or next on a pg and they would be set.

theanswer3
07-06-2008, 06:02 PM
DO NOT TRADE MARION TO THE BULLS FOR KIRK HINRICH!!!!
Bulls Lineup
PG-derrick rose
sg-gordon/hughes
sf-Marion
pf-Drew Gooden
c-Tyrus Thomas

Miami's lineup
PG-Kirk Hinrich
SG-Dwyane Wade
SF-Micheal Beasly
PF-Udonis Haslem
C-Alonzo Mourning or Mark Blount

This would be bad for Miami.

Teeboy1487
07-06-2008, 06:02 PM
Marion for kirk hinrich and ben gordon would be a rape deal for miami.

H.E.A.T.E.D
07-06-2008, 06:04 PM
You can pretty much eliminate Ellis from this talk since Barons gone. Hinrich makes about 7 mil less than Shawn, so adding another pricy playet will be necessary. I don't know if the Bulls will want to add another long contract player unless they're assured that Marion will resign with them.

Heinrich and Deng for Marion and Cook. I'd do it in a heartbeat

vigilantex69
07-06-2008, 06:05 PM
We'll give him for Tinsley?

daleja424
07-06-2008, 06:05 PM
Hmm Marion for Kirk and say Ty Thomas isn't too bad for either side.

i could deal with that...

Teeboy1487
07-06-2008, 06:09 PM
What about Marion for Kirk Hinrich and Andres Nocioni?

abe_froman
07-06-2008, 06:10 PM
What about Marion for Kirk Hinrich and Andres Nocioni?

i could deal with that

daleja424
07-06-2008, 06:15 PM
What about Marion for Kirk Hinrich and Andres Nocioni?

no thanks... not even close...

JackSplack
07-06-2008, 06:22 PM
Why don't we keep marion and sign Marbury???

We'd have the most well rounded lineup in the EAST with a winner like him...

Thoughts?

HOZ THE KNICK
07-06-2008, 06:28 PM
take marbury for free!

JackSplack
07-06-2008, 06:31 PM
take marbury for free!

Are you implying marbury's career 20/8 wouldn't make the heat a 1-3 seed contender in the East?

Vidball
07-06-2008, 06:33 PM
Marbury is a bum now.

JackSplack
07-06-2008, 06:40 PM
Marbury is a bum now.

but 20/8 career stats!
Veteran leadership!

Stephon Marbury brings all of that to a team that needs an elite PG like the Heat!

The Heat lineup would be sooo well rounded!

H.E.A.T.E.D
07-06-2008, 06:41 PM
I'd only take Marbury if he was free and the Knicks would throw in some cash.:smoking:

chicagowhitesox
07-06-2008, 06:47 PM
I would love to see that go down. Adding Marion would aid the transition to the uptempo style Del Negro wants to implement and would make Chicago the most athletic team in the East.

JackSplack
07-06-2008, 06:59 PM
Why you all hating on Marbury...
The fella's on the HEAT forum love him!!
They think that Marbury/Wade/Marion/Beasley/KwameBrown would make us a top 3 contender in the East!

What? You guys don't see that?

nolin
07-06-2008, 07:20 PM
DO NOT TRADE MARION TO THE BULLS FOR KIRK HINRICH!!!!
Bulls Lineup
PG-derrick rose
sg-gordon/hughes
sf-Marion
pf-Drew Gooden
c-Tyrus Thomas

Miami's lineup
PG-Kirk Hinrich
SG-Dwyane Wade
SF-Micheal Beasly
PF-Udonis Haslem
C-Alonzo Mourning or Mark Blount

This would be bad for Miami.

Deng would be starting at sf

H.E.A.T.E.D
07-06-2008, 07:21 PM
Why you all hating on Marbury...
The fella's on the HEAT forum love him!!
They think that Marbury/Wade/Marion/Beasley/KwameBrown would make us a top 3 contender in the East!

What? You guys don't see that?

Im on the Heat forum and i dont agree. AND Marbury and Kwame together???? uhmm why dont we pick up Rasheed, Zach Randolf, and Pacman Jones while we're at it. LMAO!

nolin
07-06-2008, 07:23 PM
Why you all hating on Marbury...
The fella's on the HEAT forum love him!!
They think that Marbury/Wade/Marion/Beasley/KwameBrown would make us a top 3 contender in the East!

What? You guys don't see that?

I think your nuts. Miami will be lucky to make the playoffs next year. Beasley will be good his rookie year but not great.

JackSplack
07-06-2008, 07:35 PM
So are you guys telling me you don't think adding Kwame and Marbury would make us a 1-3 seed playoff team?

Next thing your gonna tell me Ricky Davis wasn't the best player on last years Heat team

JackSplack
07-06-2008, 07:37 PM
So are you guys telling me you don't think adding Kwame and Marbury would make us a 1-3 seed playoff team?

Next thing your gonna tell me Ricky Davis wasn't the best player on last years Heat team

clehmun
07-06-2008, 07:55 PM
So are you guys telling me you don't think adding Kwame and Marbury would make us a 1-3 seed playoff team?

Next thing your gonna tell me Ricky Davis wasn't the best player on last years Heat team

with your kwame and ricky davis comments, i honestly can't tell if you're serious or not.

lalakobe24
07-06-2008, 07:59 PM
So are you guys telling me you don't think adding Kwame and Marbury would make us a 1-3 seed playoff team?

Next thing your gonna tell me Ricky Davis wasn't the best player on last years Heat team

wade with one leg and no arms is better than ricky davis

JackSplack
07-06-2008, 08:05 PM
Guys, Kwame, Ricky, Marbury???

Of course I'm not serious...But the fella who started this thread we're in right now, those were his original comments. He said Ricky D was the best player last year...He backed up a Marbury/Kwame starting team as a top 1-3 seed contender. And he cursed me the hell out for disagreeing! And he wasn't alone, like 3 dudes joined him!! Crazy, I know

NBABALLERHOLLER
07-06-2008, 08:11 PM
Thank God I thought you went nuts. Marbury can't even run more than 10 minutes without complaining. Kwame Brown? Are you kidding me? Let's just trade Wade now and decide we aren't going to win and we need $70 million in cap space to sign stars in 2 years. It is not like Wade is getting older every day that goes by...

SDBearsFan
07-06-2008, 08:15 PM
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9368

i think this trade would be good for everyone: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=998~829~869~3198~1981~2456~70~ 510&teams=4~14~14~17~14~17~17~4&te=&cash=

solid trade

Storch
07-06-2008, 08:18 PM
So are you guys telling me you don't think adding Kwame and Marbury would make us a 1-3 seed playoff team?

Next thing your gonna tell me Ricky Davis wasn't the best player on last years Heat team

Hey you can take luke walton and radmanovich. U guys would win the championship for sure. =]


That gave me a good laugh. Thank you for this. Ur a really funny guy. :clap:

NBABALLERHOLLER
07-06-2008, 08:19 PM
You afre right about Ellis, but when Wade picks up those early fouls he shifts to shooting guard and then the PG takes over. I guess that would be Chalmers for now but it would work better if the guy can assist and hit 3's.

bball1217
07-06-2008, 11:13 PM
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9368

i think this trade would be good for everyone: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=998~829~869~3198~1981~2456~70~ 510&teams=4~14~14~17~14~17~17~4&te=&cash=

Why would new jersey take on nocioni's 5 year deal if they want to have money to sign future draft picks and LEBRON in 2010???

QuaLiThADoN
07-06-2008, 11:34 PM
If the bulls got marion it'd be over...

naaaaaaaaaaaa

QuaLiThADoN
07-06-2008, 11:36 PM
gotta get something for Marion, hes gonna walk at seasons end.





myspace.com/thebatchelorspe

true this is master luke

QuaLiThADoN
07-06-2008, 11:37 PM
Why would new jersey take on nocioni's 5 year deal if they want to have money to sign future draft picks and LEBRON in 2010???

as a nets fan i kind of like that trade and i don't for the fact nocioni has 5 years left lol ..... takes away cap space for bron bron

Nets fan 93
07-06-2008, 11:47 PM
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9368

i think this trade would be good for everyone: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=998~829~869~3198~1981~2456~70~ 510&teams=4~14~14~17~14~17~17~4&te=&cash=
:cheers:
We get Nocioni for Stro KVH and Hassell. Thorn do THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

as a nets fan i kind of like that trade and i don't for the fact nocioni has 5 years left lol ..... takes away cap space for bron bron
Trade VC for an expiring contract and we are all good :)

Could you imagine:
Harris|Williams
CDR|Free agent
LBJ|Nocioni
Yi|Sean
Lopez|J-bo
:D

bball1217
07-06-2008, 11:52 PM
:cheers:
We get Nocioni for Stro KVH and Hassell. Thorn do THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trade VC for an expiring contract and we are all good :)

The nocioni deal is great except for the cap room, however if you trade VC for an expiring contract (not wally) and maybe a few draft picks, then sign Lebron and ENJOY THE SHOW!

lalakobe24
07-06-2008, 11:55 PM
all that for lebron hes not even that good

Packersfan
07-07-2008, 12:02 AM
all that for lebron hes not even that good

What r u smoking. Lebron not good????? that was a pretty good joke.

bball1217
07-07-2008, 12:04 AM
This might be way to crazy, but...
#1 Do this trade
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=998~829~869~3198~1981~2456~70~ 510&teams=4~14~14~17~14~17~17~4&te=&cash=
#2 Then do this trade to get 2 contracts that will expire in 2010 (Sean Williams is just in there to make trade better for L.A. - trade still works without him)
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=136~3239~566~847&teams=12~12~17~17&te=&cash=
Nets 2010-2011 season roster
PG:devin Harris
SG:CDR
SF:Lebron James/Andres Nocioni
PF:Yi
C:Brook Lopez
Throw in a few more high draft picks...and its not that bad of a roster(If Yi and Brook turn out to be good).

lalakobe24
07-07-2008, 12:14 AM
What r u smoking. Lebron not good????? that was a pretty good joke.

yea hes not worth getting rid of all yur players just to sign

its not like hes mj or even kobe

SwaggaIke
07-07-2008, 12:21 AM
I'd rather play Chalmers than trade for Hinrich. I'd like to see a deal w/ New Jersey involving Josh Boone and Marcus Williams.

stevefrancis
07-07-2008, 12:49 AM
Why does everyone think lebron is gonna go to new jersey. if the nets have a worse team than cleveland why would he leave. if anything lebron wade bosh and melo would probably go on the same team lol. imagine this line up.

wade
lebron
melo
bosh
kaman

DreamShaker
07-07-2008, 03:23 AM
Why does everyone think lebron is gonna go to new jersey. if the nets have a worse team than cleveland why would he leave. if anything lebron wade bosh and melo would probably go on the same team lol. imagine this line up.

wade
lebron
melo
bosh
kaman

Wade/Lebron/Bosh could come to the Rockets and play with Yao....:D

dodie53
07-07-2008, 08:06 AM
I understand wanting to move Marion, since it's the last year of his contract, but why a PG. Chalmers will be very solid. I think they should shop around for a center.

would the heat want shaq?
:)

theimortalone
07-07-2008, 08:38 AM
would the heat want shaq?
:)

Why the **** would the heat want Shaq back, and why the **** would Phx want to trade shaq back? stupid proposal!

Manny Paplfavre
07-07-2008, 08:43 AM
The Nets aren't going to take on Nicioni's contract because it extends beyond 2010. I don't think they would have given away RJ (obviously to clear cap space for LeBron) just to take on Nicioni's contract.

BirmBaron#45
07-07-2008, 11:29 AM
You can pretty much eliminate Ellis from this talk since Barons gone. Hinrich makes about 7 mil less than Shawn, so adding another pricy playet will be necessary. I don't know if the Bulls will want to add another long contract player unless they're assured that Marion will resign with them.

This one is a no-brainer. Send Kirk and Hughes to Miami for Marion.

Rose
BG
Deng
Marion
Noah

The conflict would be with Tyrus Thomas who has to believe he will be starting this year.

BALLER71
07-07-2008, 11:46 AM
Since when is Kirk Hinirich considered Elite?
I believe the article said Elite PG.

And I believe his contract extends beyond 2010.

SwaggaIke
07-07-2008, 12:27 PM
Kirk isn't even close to elite. I don't want him anyway, but to take on Hughes contract in the process would make the deal even worse.

Coqui77
07-07-2008, 01:28 PM
Kirk Hinrich isn't even a true point guard he is more of a shooting guard bringing him to Miami for Marion would be stupid. I would consider however trading Haslem and Blount for Hinrich, and Tyrus Thomas if the Bulls.

dre1990
07-07-2008, 02:04 PM
dont think they will move him. they seem preety confedent in a guy namned MARIO CHALMERS