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dave
07-03-2008, 05:54 PM
http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2006-10/archive-why-babe-ruth-greatest-home-run-hitter

iam brett favre
07-04-2008, 02:51 AM
....the picture?

pmmr2113
07-04-2008, 03:10 AM
ummm the greatest home run hitter is barry bonds. everybody knows that.

ShinobiNYC
07-04-2008, 03:13 AM
ummm the greatest home run hitter is barry bonds. everybody knows that.

No.

Knowledge
07-04-2008, 03:21 AM
No.

saying no flat out is a little harsh isnt it?
He is the greatest of our era at the least.

back to Babe: I believe Babe Ruth benefited from playing in a era where most pitchers only had fastballs. Maybe a slider, i dont think change-ups were even invented yet. You put any great hitter in a era without a diverse group of off speed pitches and their numbers would be insane, it just so happens Ruth was a extra special hitter.

BarryIsInnocent
07-04-2008, 03:28 AM
No.

Yes. He has the most homeruns. Almost has 3000 hits and 2000 RBIS and has 500 Stolen bases. Hes not the greatest homerun hitter of all time hes the greatest ball player of all time. Whoops I forgot 4 gold gloves.

Buckwheat
07-04-2008, 03:34 AM
ummm the greatest home run hitter is barry bonds. everybody knows that.

No.

Naru
07-04-2008, 03:40 AM
Yes. He has the most homeruns. Almost has 3000 hits and 2000 RBIS and has 500 Stolen bases. Hes not the greatest homerun hitter of all time hes the greatest ball player of all time. Whoops I forgot 4 gold gloves.

O.o Thats what roids and performance enhancing drugs and the best weight equipment in the world will do for you. He is not the greatest ever and he isn't even in the top 10. Ruth did not take drugs and did not have all the star treatment that players now days have... Like the equipment and the specialists and the doctors and the drugs and or medications that allow ball players to continue to play at a high level. Also If im not mistake Ruth was also one hell of a pitcher. On a side note "almost 3000 hits is not 3000 hits" and he wont ever have 3000 hits to let that dream die.

Buckwheat
07-04-2008, 03:43 AM
O.o Thats what roids and performance enhancing drugs and the best weight equipment in the world will do for you. He is not the greatest ever and he isn't even in the top 10. Ruth did not take drugs and did not have all the star treatment that players now days have... Like the equipment and the specialists and the doctors and the drugs and or medications that allow ball players to continue to play at a high level. Also If im not mistake Ruth was also one hell of a pitcher. On a side note "almost 3000 hits is not 3000 hits" and he wont ever have 3000 hits to let that dream die.

Now, I won't go into the steroids.. Nothing is proven yet (although I hope something will be so we can just say he wasn't the best homerun hitter ever). Babe Ruth played in days where the pitching was just.. a little bit tougher. Babe Ruth was a better player than Bonds.

Naru
07-04-2008, 03:58 AM
Now, I won't go into the steroids.. Nothing is proven yet (although I hope something will be so we can just say he wasn't the best homerun hitter ever). Babe Ruth played in days where the pitching was just.. a little bit tougher. Babe Ruth was a better player than Bonds.

He has lied so much that his image and integrity are completely shattered. This is one guy that you can honestly say is guilty without even having the evidence to back it up yet. Everyone knows it is what it is and its sad for anyone to consider this guy the best because it makes a mockery of baseball and hurts what Ruth and mays and big hank did.

The GEEEEE Men
07-04-2008, 04:33 AM
Yes. He has the most homeruns. Almost has 3000 hits and 2000 RBIS and has 500 Stolen bases. Hes not the greatest homerun hitter of all time hes the greatest ball player of all time. Whoops I forgot 4 gold gloves.

and every single one of those numbers are tainted...

jwn0303
07-04-2008, 05:07 AM
Now, I won't go into the steroids.. Nothing is proven yet (although I hope something will be so we can just say he wasn't the best homerun hitter ever). Babe Ruth played in days where the pitching was just.. a little bit tougher. Babe Ruth was a better player than Bonds.

i hope that's sarcasm... there is no way you could believe the pitching was tougher back then.
They were seeing the same pitchers day after day. It was much easier back then. Now with all the lefts specialists and everything else, steroids or no steroids, what bonds did was still truly remarkable.

StootS
07-04-2008, 05:45 AM
Let us not forget that Babe pitched for a few years and was one of the more effective lefthanded pitchers. So think about what he could have done in those years if he had hit.

Knowledge
07-04-2008, 08:33 AM
saying no flat out is a little harsh isnt it?
He is the greatest of our era at the least.

back to Babe: I believe Babe Ruth benefited from playing in a era where most pitchers only had fastballs. Maybe a slider, i dont think change-ups were even invented yet. You put any great hitter in a era without a diverse group of off speed pitches and their numbers would be insane, it just so happens Ruth was a extra special hitter.

Almost every era, if not every era of baseball has some type of problem that could effect how a player did or didnt perform. Bonds played in the Steriod era and used them just like a lot of other players (pitchers included). Babe played in a era where pitchers didnt have many different types of pitches or at least i dont remember hearing anything about pitchers who could throw change-ups, cutters, sinkers, ect. . .

Bottom Line: Both played with disadvantages and advantages of some sort. I'll value Barry Bonds's accomplishments more because I saw them no matter how many people dont like him or called him "cheater" It change the fact that he is the greatest of our era and faced many more types/styles of Pitchers in one year then Babe saw in his whole life.

torontocubs
07-04-2008, 10:51 AM
I hate the guys guts. But he is the best all around baseball player to play the game. Griffey Healthy is whole career likely would have changed my mind. You can not argue that he is the best power hitter ever. If you have a problem with the fact that he has never tested positive for steroids, than you need to read a law textbook and look up the definition for innocent. Innocent until proven guilty.

As for the moron quoting that he is not quite at 3000 hits, how about you look up the stat under the letters BB. All time leader in walks. Pitchers were to ***** to pitch to him. If had of had half the at bats that he was walked, we might be looking at a home run total well into the 900's, and thats not speculation, thats just fact based on his hr/ab ratio. Take a look following the 70 home run season. Every one assumed he had gone off the roids. Compare his home run total, to Albert Pujols, very close in numbers, than take a look at the difference in at bats between the two.

Take his name away from those stats and you have to be mentally ******** half-wit not to realize that those are the numbers of the best baseball player ever. He was paid to play baseball, not make fans happy. And if you ask almost any San Francisco fan, the guy was a God out there.

Sabres39
07-04-2008, 11:00 AM
i hope that's sarcasm... there is no way you could believe the pitching was tougher back then.They were seeing the same pitchers day after day. It was much easier back then. Now with all the lefts specialists and everything else, steroids or no steroids, what bonds did was still truly remarkable.

Ever hear of a spitball? Of course not, because it was outlawed back in Ruth's day, save for the like 7 who could still throw it.

5+7=DYNASTY!!!
07-04-2008, 11:10 AM
Yes. He has the most homeruns. Almost has 3000 hits and 2000 RBIS and has 500 Stolen bases. Hes not the greatest homerun hitter of all time hes the greatest ball player of all time. Whoops I forgot 4 gold gloves.

Whoops you also forgot to mention the fact that he took steriods.

torontocubs
07-04-2008, 11:16 AM
Whoops you also forgot to mention the fact that he took steriods.

Hey how about I buy you a bottle of steroids, give you a few needles, and I will see you in the Pros hitting bombs in a year or so right. Forgot it was that easy, **** maybe I should take them. I'd like 20 million a year. Steroids don't make you a better ball player, just ask Greg Zaun. Only in the MLB are steroids considered such a horrible indecent offence. Shawn Merriman tests positive in the NFL, slap on the wrist 4 game suspension and a fine. Yet in Baseball your name is tainted forever. Get over it MLB, get over it.

johnnylee722
07-04-2008, 11:37 AM
Ruth is the greatest home run hitter of all time
Williams is the greatest hitter of all time
Mays is the best all around player of all time

Thats how I see it.

jetsfan28
07-04-2008, 11:42 AM
Now, I won't go into the steroids.. Nothing is proven yet (although I hope something will be so we can just say he wasn't the best homerun hitter ever). Babe Ruth played in days where the pitching was just.. a little bit tougher. Babe Ruth was a better player than Bonds.

The pitching wasn't really tougher at all. He didn't face black or Latin players, he didn't have specialists coming in to face him, and he didn't face pitchers who were on steroids. And I love how we just ignor how dominant he was pre-roids despite facing pitchers who were on steroids, guys who basically specialize in getting him out, and facing a wider array of pitchers, unlike Ruth.

Jwizel_hitshrs
07-04-2008, 11:56 AM
Hate to break it too ya ALL but A-Rod is the best baseball player of all time. When its all said and done.....and a-rod has broken all bonds records.....he will be the best lol and richest lol

torontocubs
07-04-2008, 12:20 PM
Hate to break it too ya ALL but A-Rod is the best baseball player of all time. When its all said and done.....and a-rod has broken all bonds records.....he will be the best lol and richest lol

No argument when it happens, until then ... Bonds has the crown. We could have said the same thing about Ken Griffey jr at the same point in his career. You never know what can happen.

Knowledge
07-04-2008, 12:42 PM
Ever hear of a spitball? Of course not, because it was outlawed back in Ruth's day, save for the like 7 who could still throw it.

Babe Ruth=Wilt Chamberlin
Both contributed to many rules we see today, both put up inhuman numbers, and both are hurt historically by playing against lesser competition and being ahead of their era.

Also There is NO WAY you can convince me pitching was tougher back then. I believe their was no -Change-up,cutter,sinker,2S fastball- Change up alone is basically a requirement in our time. Their were like 12 teams so you could get familiar with who you were facing and unless this spit ball does a loop, flip, and spin before it gets to the plate it had to be hittable so that makes 3 pitches slider, Fastball, Spitball in Ruth era.

This era players face different pitchers, timezones, and pitching stances every night. Not to mention relief pitchers who specialize on lefties or righties

ShinobiNYC
07-04-2008, 01:09 PM
Babe Ruth=Wilt Chamberlin
Both contributed to many rules we see today, both put up inhuman numbers, and both are hurt historically by playing against lesser competition and being ahead of their era.

Also There is NO WAY you can convince me pitching was tougher back then. I believe their was no -Change-up,cutter,sinker,2S fastball- Change up alone is basically a requirement in our time. Their were like 12 teams so you could get familiar with who you were facing and unless this spit ball does a loop, flip, and spin before it gets to the plate it had to be hittable so that makes 3 pitches slider, Fastball, Spitball in Ruth era.

This era players face different pitchers, timezones, and pitching stances every night. Not to mention relief pitchers who specialize on lefties or righties

Yeah you tell them, when Walter Johnson's famous curveball gets crushed by babe Ruth by 500+ feet(according to witnesses of course) you say meh he only has 2 pitches. Same for lefty Grove.
Add the fact that a lot of good if not great hitters barely reached Ruth's stats if not to say entire teams until the Foxx's, Gehrig's,..etc came along and the bbe would still put up amazing numbers in the 30's.
Did you also know that most parks were froma lil to a lot bigger back then?

Every baseball expret would tell you that this is an era great for offense.

If babe Ruth was in this era don't you think that not only he would be the same great hitter but also he would be helped by the new technology, the expansion teams(a lot of teams with mediocre pitching), smaller ballparks,...etc?

Btw Hank Aaron is the best homerun hitter ever until someone passes his record, Bonds is the best all-around player cause he had both great speed and great power but as far as homeruns he would NEVER EVER pass hank Aaron if he didn't take steriods and YES he took them eventhough he said he didn't know about it.

The GEEEEE Men
07-04-2008, 01:15 PM
Almost every era, if not every era of baseball has some type of problem that could effect how a player did or didnt perform. Bonds played in the Steriod era and used them just like a lot of other players (pitchers included). Babe played in a era where pitchers didnt have many different types of pitches or at least i dont remember hearing anything about pitchers who could throw change-ups, cutters, sinkers, ect. . .

Bottom Line: Both played with disadvantages and advantages of some sort. I'll value Barry Bonds's accomplishments more because I saw them no matter how many people dont like him or called him "cheater" It change the fact that he is the greatest of our era and faced many more types/styles of Pitchers in one year then Babe saw in his whole life.

so your saying just cause some other players were taking steroids in his era of baseball then it makes it ok for Bonds to take them too?? Bonds might as well of used a corked bat his whole career too them maybe would have hit 800.. and you idiots would still say that it was ok

crane888
07-04-2008, 01:24 PM
He has lied so much that his image and integrity are completely shattered. This is one guy that you can honestly say is guilty without even having the evidence to back it up yet. Everyone knows it is what it is and its sad for anyone to consider this guy the best because it makes a mockery of baseball and hurts what Ruth and mays and big hank did.

same goes for Roger Clemens

The Schmooze
07-04-2008, 01:42 PM
saying no flat out is a little harsh isnt it?
He is the greatest of our era at the least.

back to Babe: I believe Babe Ruth benefited from playing in a era where most pitchers only had fastballs. Maybe a slider, i dont think change-ups were even invented yet. You put any great hitter in a era without a diverse group of off speed pitches and their numbers would be insane, it just so happens Ruth was a extra special hitter.

for a name like Knowledge you sure have your "facts" messed up...

There is NO evidence that backs up your point that most hitters only had a fastball. Thats just completely untrue first of all. Second of all, they played in mammoth stadiums. No PNC parks back in those days. Also Babe Ruth didnt have the comfort of body armor or pitchers who couldnt knock a hitter down...

You have to look at the fact that he dominated the era he played in. He hit more homeruns that any other TEAM in the league one year. His sheer dominance would be the equivalent of A-Rod hitting +100 bombs per year. Babe Ruth was THAT much better than the competition.

Also lets not forget Ruth dominated as a pitcher as well, and still holds pitching records. Anybody that says Bonds is better than Babe Ruth needs a serious lesson in baseball history...

Knowledge
07-04-2008, 01:46 PM
Yeah you tell them, when Walter Johnson's famous curveball gets crushed by babe Ruth by 500+ feet(according to witnesses of course) you say meh he only has 2 pitches. Same for lefty Grove.
Add the fact that a lot of good if not great hitters barely reached Ruth's stats if not to say entire teams until the Foxx's, Gehrig's,..etc came along and the bbe would still put up amazing numbers in the 30's.
Did you also know that most parks were froma lil to a lot bigger back then?

Every baseball expret would tell you that this is an era great for offense.

If babe Ruth was in this era don't you think that not only he would be the same great hitter but also he would be helped by the new technology, the expansion teams(a lot of teams with mediocre pitching), smaller ballparks,...etc?

Btw Hank Aaron is the best homerun hitter ever until someone passes his record, Bonds is the best all-around player cause he had both great speed and great power but as far as homeruns he would NEVER EVER pass hank Aaron if he didn't take steriods and YES he took them eventhough he said he didn't know about it.

How many pitchers could throw a curveball back then? Not many huh.
Bigger ball parks dont matter if you can get good fastballs to hit. So yea there were pitchers back who could throw at best 3 pitches then but most pitchers back then had most likely one or maybe two pitches. There is always an exception like Walter Johnson but im assumng fastball and curveball isnt a combo that gets it done in this era.

you can try to say what you want about Babe>Bonds but i still perceive bonds as the greatest and none of your half hearted stats or self perceived righteousness could change my mind

Knowledge
07-04-2008, 01:59 PM
so your saying just cause some other players were taking steroids in his era of baseball then it makes it ok for Bonds to take them too?? Bonds might as well of used a corked bat his whole career too them maybe would have hit 800.. and you idiots would still say that it was ok

You mean a lot of players? Babe Ruth is very good and stood out because of how he stood out in era that was offensively challenged but Bonds faced challenges just as great as Ruth if not greater. Whether it be timezones, types of pitchers/pitches or the insane number of walks he drew.

Adding idiot at the end of your statement doesnt justify your opinion over mine. Though it does show your lack vocabulary, call me a peasant or something stop being so predictable. i would've said you cretin or simpleton but thats just me

The Schmooze
07-04-2008, 02:06 PM
You mean a lot of players? Babe Ruth is very good and stood out because of how he stood out in era that was offensively challenged but Bonds faced challenges just as great as Ruth if not greater. Whether it be timezones, types of pitchers/pitches or the insane number of walks he drew.

Adding idiot at the end of your statement doesnt justify your opinion over mine. Though it does show your lack vocabulary, call me a peasant or something stop being so predictable. i would've said you cretin or simpleton but thats just me

all the advantages go to the hitters in baseball now...

the lowering of the mound, body-armor, and pitchers getting suspended or tossed if they even throw inside, small ballparks, etc. and WITH all these advantages Bonds still wasnt as dominant as Ruth was in his era. Oh yeah and then there sthe whole steroids thing which is a whole other subject

and if you knew anything about baseball you'd know pitchers have been throwing curveballs(and other pitches) since the late 1800s.

Newport05
07-04-2008, 02:09 PM
ummm the greatest home run hitter is barry bonds. everybody knows that.

Cheaters dont count. Babe ruth was 100000000 times better then that steroid loser i say loser cause he has never won anything.

Knowledge
07-04-2008, 02:19 PM
all the advantages go to the hitters in baseball now...

the lowering of the mound, body-armor, and pitchers getting suspended or tossed if they even throw inside, small ballparks, etc. and WITH all these advantages Bonds still wasnt as dominant as Ruth was in his era. Oh yeah and then there sthe whole steroids thing which is a whole other subject

and if you knew anything about baseball you'd know pitchers have been throwing curveballs(and other pitches) since the late 1800s.

Babe Ruth play from 1914-1935. Deadball era ended 1920. He played 6yrs in deadball era (not overwhelming period of time) then after rule changes that led to increase in offense. He played mostly in live ball era for everyones information.

Look My opinion=Barry bonds greatest player I ever seen/ possibly greatest ever. Key word my opinion, everyone has different views this is just mine.

ShinobiNYC
07-04-2008, 02:24 PM
How many pitchers could throw a curveball back then? Not many huh.
Bigger ball parks dont matter if you can get good fastballs to hit. So yea there were pitchers back who could throw at best 3 pitches then but most pitchers back then had most likely one or maybe two pitches. There is always an exception like Walter Johnson but im assumng fastball and curveball isnt a combo that gets it done in this era.

you can try to say what you want about Babe>Bonds but i still perceive bonds as the greatest and none of your half hearted stats or self perceived righteousness could change my mind

Everything tells me that Ruth is a better Home Run hitter than Bonds will ever be and that's the discussion here. I respect your opinion though.

Watch this one for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbHQue2q7p8

Knowledge
07-04-2008, 02:47 PM
Everything tells me that Ruth is a better Home Run hitter than Bonds will ever be and that's the discussion here. I respect your opinion though.

Watch this one for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbHQue2q7p8

fair point by Costas and i agree that Bonds did things that were impossible by many standards. You have a strong case and cant really argue against Babe Ruth being the greatest because he was indeed spectacular.
i wont disagree with because you are probably right but i just dont feel comfortable putting babe as the undisputed G.O.A.T. I look at it as every era has something questionable that can be argued as advantageous or disadvantageous

You make all make a better argument than me if that is what you wanted to hear and I respect your opinions. I just have mine.

The Schmooze
07-04-2008, 02:47 PM
Babe Ruth play from 1914-1935. Deadball era ended 1920. He played 6yrs in deadball era (not overwhelming period of time) then after rule changes that led to increase in offense. He played mostly in live ball era for everyones information.

Look My opinion=Barry bonds greatest player I ever seen/ possibly greatest ever. Key word my opinion, everyone has different views this is just mine.

OK Bonds or A-ROD is the best Ive ever seen, doesnt make either the best ever. Ruth was a god amongst men, he was that good. Like I said it would be the same if your boy hit +100 HRs every year....clean.

compare the # of at-bats between Ruth and Bonds. If you're going to present your opinion as fact at least be able to back it up with credible information.

torontocubs
07-04-2008, 03:01 PM
OK Bonds or A-ROD is the best Ive ever seen, doesnt make either the best ever. Ruth was a god amongst men, he was that good. Like I said it would be the same if your boy hit +100 HRs every year....clean.

compare the # of at-bats between Ruth and Bonds. If you're going to present your opinion as fact at least be able to back it up with credible information.

It is truly a impressive stat. Not to say that one is extremely more outrageous. Ruth had a better home run to at bat ratio. The big shock is between the ratios of Bonds and Ruth versus Hank Aaron. It is pretty crazy to think that he was chasing Aaron's record when if either Bonds or Ruth ever had as many at bats as Aaron that stat could be in the thousands.

hawksin09
07-04-2008, 03:07 PM
ummm the greatest home run hitter is barry bonds. everybody knows that.



UMMMM barry bonds is a cheater. Plain and simple.

torontocubs
07-04-2008, 03:07 PM
This is a classic case of trying to compare two different stars over two completely different generations. It doesn't work in any sport. Everything has changed from era to era. Better pitching, Stronger Men, Better Health, etc... The list goes on and on really never stops. There is no sport where you can clearly compare two greats from different eras and make a case for who is better.

Basketball - Wilt or Jordan?

Golf - Bobby Jones, Nicklaus, or Tiger?

Hockey - Gretzky or Orr?

NYCowboy
07-04-2008, 04:07 PM
Jordan, Tiger, Gretzky...lol

tomno00
07-04-2008, 04:30 PM
ruth played in much bigger ballparks back then. Studies have indicated that he would have hit around 900 hr's if he played in today's parks.

Chaotic
07-04-2008, 05:19 PM
If Bonds didn't juice, he wouldn't have been the player he was, plain and simple. He would have been good, but he wouldn't have been a HR king with bloated stats.

Ruth is the best baseball player to ever play the game AND he pitched. Sincerely, if ANYONE would take a Bonds over Ruth in a fantasy team, you're smoking the best kind of drug around, please pass it throughout the forums.

Newport05
07-04-2008, 07:45 PM
Jordan, Tiger, Gretzky...lol

lol exactly what i thought when that guy posted that easy as hell.

odiz
07-04-2008, 07:47 PM
If your going to call out Bonds you gotta call out Mays and co. for greenies. Players have been doing whatever it takes to get an edge since the beginning of baseball. Even if he did take steroids, i think the difference they make is blown way out of proportion, look at the mitchell report, not exactly a list of future hall of famers. The numbers he put up steroids or no steroids are the most impressive in all of sports for me. OBP over .600 in '04 with 232 walks. The year he hit 73 he did it in only 476 abs!! Thats a 92 Homer pace if he were to have 600abs. He had an OPS over 1.000 for the last 15 years of his career.

I think the amount of players who hit for such high averages in the Ruth era shows the pitching was a lot easier to hit. No offspeed pitches. Imagine if Barry had been able to sit on a fastball every pitch, he would have hit like 2000. Also 1 pitcher pitching the whole game with only around 45-50 pitchers in the entire league. You would have known every one of them like the back of your hand.

People single him out because he didnt go out of his way to kiss ***** or suck up to the media, i respect him for that, hes a baseball player there to play baseball. I think more then his stats, the fear he put in opposing pitchers is unrivaled in the past just as it will be in the future. Obviously i never saw Ruth play and im sure he was a great player but with what Bonds did in this day and age, with what i saw him do, i dont think Ruth or anyone could compare.

H-MYK
07-04-2008, 08:13 PM
Ruth >>>>> Bonds

stanleythemanly
07-04-2008, 10:37 PM
Now, I won't go into the steroids.. Nothing is proven yet (although I hope something will be so we can just say he wasn't the best homerun hitter ever). Babe Ruth played in days where the pitching was just.. a little bit tougher. Babe Ruth was a better player than Bonds.

Thank You.
Babe was unquestionably THE GREATEST BASEBALL PLAYER IN HISTORY.
Period.
Compared to Babe Ruth - EVERYONE ELSE IS A FUNKY JOKE.
Don't think so Mr.Baseball? REALLY?
Then look at his stats as a Left Handed Pitcher.
Those are ALSO Hall Of Fame numbers.
In fact Mr.Baseball - the pitching of consecutive scoreless innings in Post-Season Play outlasted the 714 Home Runs by at least 10 years and was finally broken in the 1960's by Don Drysdale - who btw was a pretty decent Home Run Hitter in his own right.
But to compare what Barry Bonds has done to what Babe Ruth and Henry Aaron and Willie Mays accomplished - in what was still a "Jim Crow America" is an absolute absurdity.
Still - whatever Barry has done wrong - if anything and nothing has been proven (and I believe that Barry's accusers would steal The Boatman's Money from the eyes of a dead man) I'd invite Barry into my home long before any of the punks who are in The NFL.

L-MiLLZ44
07-04-2008, 11:17 PM
babe ruth hit homeruns, but does everyone forget all those years he pitched?????? he wasn't too bad of a pitcher in fact he would of made the hall as a pitcher

MrBloop
07-05-2008, 01:17 PM
Oh you mean the Babe had surperior hand-eye coordination???

I coulda told you that.

All the truly great ones have it.

I garuntee Tiger Woods, Barry Bonds, MJ, Joe D, Mays, The Mick, Gherig, and some others would test high on some of these exams.

MrBloop
07-05-2008, 01:19 PM
People also forget, that IF the Mick stayed healthy like most of the truly greats, he could have gone down as the greatest ball player ever.

Mounds were higher back than as well, and the pitching wasn't as diluted.

GOODLUCKDONNIE
07-05-2008, 01:38 PM
babe ruth couldnt hit the pitching that barry bonds had to deal with