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-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 05:15 PM
Boston Red Sox (50-37) vs New York Yankees (45-40)


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Location: Yankee Stadium (http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/index.jsp)


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Game 1

Thursday, July 3 - 7:05 ET



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BOS: LHP Jon Lester (6-3, 3.48) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/lestejo01.shtml) vs NYY: LHP Andy Pettitte (9-5, 3.98) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/pettian01.shtml)


Red Sox: Lester had a rare shaky outing in his last start, giving up nine hits and six runs over five innings in a no-decision against the Astros. Of Lester's 18 starts this season, half of them have resulted in no-decisions. The lefty is holding opponents to a .261 average. This will be Lester?s first start against the Yankees this season. It will also be Lester's first career start at Yankee Stadium. In fact, he has pitched just once against New York in his career, surrendering eight hits and seven runs over 3 2/3 innings in an August 2006 outing.




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Yankees: In the Yankees' 3-1 win over the Mets on Saturday, Pettitte allowed two earned runs and five hits, walking three and striking out five to improve to 4-0 in his past four starts. The lefty has surrendered two or fewer earned runs in each of those outings, a huge bounce-back after he gave up 10 runs to Kansas City on June 7.



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Game 2

Friday, July 4 - 1:05 ET



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BOS: RHP Josh Beckett (7-5, 3.65) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/beckejo02.shtml) vs NYY: RHP Darrell Rasner (4-6, 4.42) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/rasneda01.shtml)



Red Sox: Despite his modest win total, Beckett is on his best roll of the season. In June, the righty went 2-1 with a 2.38 ERA over five starts. He has given up two earned runs or less in six of his last seven outings. Beckett is 2-0 against the Yankees this season. This will be his second outing of the year at Yankee Stadium, where he allowed six hits and three runs in a win on April 17. In nine road starts, Beckett is 3-4 with a 3.19 ERA. In his last start, he gave up two runs over seven innings in a no-decision against the Astros.




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Yankees: Even though Rasner kept his team in the game by allowing just two runs in the Yankees' 3-1 loss to the Mets on Sunday, his five innings were full of trouble. That's what happens when you give up eight hits and three walks. Rasner maintained a sub-3.00 ERA in his first six starts, but he's seen his ERA climb to 4.42 in his last outings.




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Game 3

Saturday, July 5 - 3:55 ET



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BOS: RHP Justin Masterson (4-2, 3.75) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/masteju01.shtml) vs NYY: RHP Mike Mussina (10-6, 3.87) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mussimi01.shtml)



Red Sox: The sinkerballer has been plagued by control problems in his last couple of starts. Most recently, Masterson walked five and allowed four runs over six innings in a 5-4 loss to the Rays. Masterson has walked three or more batters in four of his last five starts. In six June starts, Masterson was 3-2 with a 4.54 ERA. This is his first career start at Yankee Stadium.




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Yankees: Mussina's ERA -- currently at 3.87 -- has been under 4.00 over his last four starts. It seems like it's just a mistake here and there that's costing him. He hasn't walked more than two batters in a game this season. In 54 career starts against Boston -- the most he has against any team -- the righty is 19-17 with a 3.80 ERA.



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Game 4 will be added later

i am bob
07-03-2008, 05:59 PM
Somethings wrong with Game 3. :)

Tai_chi_bbc
07-03-2008, 06:01 PM
Why it say daisuke with a pic of masterson? and a pic of mussina with kazmir?

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 06:28 PM
It is not finished yet. I had to deal with some crap while I was making it.

RSF1977
07-03-2008, 06:32 PM
It is not finished yet. I had to deal with some crap while I was making it.

:D LOL! Thats too funny.

But on a serious note
You do an AWESOME job on these Lavigne.:clap:

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 06:35 PM
haha I have not made one since April. Redsoxtober has done pretty much all of them this season.

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:07 PM
I bet i can do better :D

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:08 PM
nice thread lavigne, well done :clap:

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:09 PM
game time!

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:10 PM
Ellsbury K's :(

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:12 PM
Pedroia basehit! 11 game hit streak :clap:

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:12 PM
Drew! Baseknock.

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:13 PM
I have Ellsbury on my fantasy team and I dont have the guts to bench him

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:13 PM
Manny needs to get on a streak!

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:14 PM
Bad throw!!! Could've been a DP but Jeter made an error! hahaha :laugh:

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:14 PM
wow that was close.... instead of an inning ending double play, its 1-0 Sox :clap:

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:15 PM
1-0!

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:17 PM
Lowell RBI Double!

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:17 PM
2-0 Sox, Lowell with the RBI 2B :dance:

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:17 PM
Jewkilis :D

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:19 PM
2-0.

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:20 PM
3 outs.

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 07:21 PM
Great start. Lets see how Lester does in his first start at Yankee Stadium.

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:24 PM
Lester starts with a walk :(

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:24 PM
Jeter=Overated!

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:24 PM
leadoff walk... :(

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:25 PM
That was a strike :mad:

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:27 PM
That SOOOOO was a strike!

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:30 PM
ALMOST a double play!

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:31 PM
:pity: Lugo.

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:31 PM
oh wow, he actually should have been out

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:31 PM
Nice 0-2 to A-Rod.

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:32 PM
hey bob, you got nesn or YES?

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:33 PM
Nesn.

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:33 PM
:k:

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:33 PM
K's Arod!!!

PapelbonLester
07-03-2008, 07:33 PM
sit down a-rod

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:34 PM
Nesn.

oh, lucky you, I got the YES Network.....


oh that was gross, they just showed some female Giambi fans with "the mustache"

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:35 PM
buh bye Giambi :k:

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:35 PM
K's Giambi

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:35 PM
oh, lucky you, I got the YES Network.....


oh that was gross, they just showed some female Giambi fans with "the mustache"

Whats wrong with YES?

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 07:36 PM
Great job by Lester getting out of that situation.

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:36 PM
YES has less Red Sox games

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:37 PM
CoCo!

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:39 PM
but its ok, I have the MLB.tv premium package

yaowowrocket11
07-03-2008, 07:40 PM
:cheer:

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:40 PM
1st and 2nd no outs!

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:41 PM
but its ok, I have the MLB.tv premium package

Nice:clap:

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:41 PM
Julio Lugo is up :cheer:

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:41 PM
advance those runners lugo

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:42 PM
Nice sacrifice he did his job :cheer:

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:42 PM
good execution :clap:... runners in scoring position for Jacoby

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:43 PM
Ellsbury drivves in 2!

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:43 PM
yeah Ellsbury... 2 RBI double

4-0 Sox

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:44 PM
Gotta give Lugo credit.

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 07:45 PM
Nice! 4-0

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:46 PM
Ellsbury :(

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 07:46 PM
Bad mistake by Ellsbury

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:46 PM
3 outs.

yaowowrocket11
07-03-2008, 07:48 PM
Damn, a great start. That is how you start to end a 5 game losing streak.

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 07:50 PM
3 strikeouts in a row

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:50 PM
:k::k::k:

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:54 PM
:k::k::k::k:

YankeeFan28
07-03-2008, 07:56 PM
**** the Yankees.

Go Red Sox :clap:

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 07:56 PM
**** the Yankees.

Go Red Sox :clap:

:eyebrow:

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:57 PM
Nice pitching by Lester i hear :)

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:57 PM
Ohh Drew :pity:

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 07:58 PM
Time for Manny to get going again

i am bob
07-03-2008, 07:59 PM
Walk by Manny.

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 07:59 PM
Pettitte is struggling with his control

Tragedy
07-03-2008, 08:01 PM
**** the Yankees.

Go Red Sox :clap:
Boston Rocks, that you?!?!

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 08:03 PM
damn it... double play

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 08:03 PM
Damn Youk

i am bob
07-03-2008, 08:04 PM
End of inning.

JWalk126
07-03-2008, 08:04 PM
ok... I'm out for now

need a break

i am bob
07-03-2008, 08:06 PM
Single :(

i am bob
07-03-2008, 08:07 PM
Numbero uno!

i am bob
07-03-2008, 08:07 PM
Double play!

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 08:08 PM
Really nice double play

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 08:11 PM
Crisp with two hits :clap:

i am bob
07-03-2008, 08:12 PM
Coco is doing well.

i am bob
07-03-2008, 08:13 PM
Coco's a theif!

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 08:14 PM
At least he moved Crisp over

i am bob
07-03-2008, 08:15 PM
Lugo and Tek did their Jobs :clap:

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 08:18 PM
Really good start to this game so far

i am bob
07-03-2008, 08:22 PM
2 outs!

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 08:23 PM
Lester has really settled in after that tough start in the 1st

Greenmonster24
07-03-2008, 08:26 PM
Yes hopefully Lester can go really deep into the game so our bullpen doesn't have to be expuse. The way the bullpen is its hard not to want to bring Papelbon in in the 8th inning.

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 08:28 PM
Abreu misses it! Double for Drew

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 08:35 PM
damn, that would have scored Manny if it stayed in. Pettitte's night is done

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 08:47 PM
Lester's on a roll

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 09:00 PM
Another 1-2-3 inning for Lester

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 09:08 PM
Were not doing too well against Giese

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 09:18 PM
Great grab by Drew

-Lavigne43-
07-03-2008, 09:56 PM
Really important and great win tonight. Definitely Lester's second best start of the year behind his no hitter.

papipapsmanny
07-03-2008, 10:11 PM
^^^ holy crap lavigne


anyways people this is why he was considered to be a future ace/two when he was a prospect.

Tragedy
07-03-2008, 10:37 PM
I didn't see the game, but the line was fantastic from Lester. Props to him. He's done better than I could have possibly expected. I literally thought he could never be THIS good, but he has been. Very impressive.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 12:31 AM
Yankees: In the Yankees' 3-1 win over the Mets on Saturday, Pettitte allowed two earned runs and five hits, walking three and striking out five to improve to 4-0 in his past four starts. The lefty has surrendered two or fewer earned runs in each of those outings, a huge bounce-back after he gave up 10 runs to Kansas City on June 7.

:confused:

gcoll
07-04-2008, 03:13 AM
Lester started out this year....much the same way he has pitched his whole career. I thought he was cruising to a year of about a mid to high 4 ERA.

but then all of a sudden....he just switched it on. He attacks the strike zone. Mixes up his pitches well. Gets deep into games.

He's really saved our ***** this year.

And I know the Yankee offense has been struggling, but still. Lester has been doing it all year. If we get into the playoffs, he's gonna be our game 2 starter. Quite a jump he's made.

Tragedy
07-04-2008, 11:02 AM
Lester started out this year....much the same way he has pitched his whole career. I thought he was cruising to a year of about a mid to high 4 ERA.

but then all of a sudden....he just switched it on. He attacks the strike zone. Mixes up his pitches well. Gets deep into games.

He's really saved our ***** this year.
Oh, I couldn't agree with you more. I've always liked Lester. The potential was there, but I never saw him as more than a #3 starter. He came into the season, and like you said, did what is the norm for him - Lots of pitchs early, walks, and just a lot of average pitching. His transformation is outstanding, and like you said, he's saved us in a big way. Imagine if we didn't have him? We'd be in some serious trouble.

On a side note, Lester is pitching about as good as the man he was going to be traded for this past offseason. :speechless:

sboyajian
07-04-2008, 11:40 AM
Oh, I couldn't agree with you more. I've always liked Lester. The potential was there, but I never saw him as more than a #3 starter. He came into the season, and like you said, did what is the norm for him - Lots of pitchs early, walks, and just a lot of average pitching. His transformation is outstanding, and like you said, he's saved us in a big way. Imagine if we didn't have him? We'd be in some serious trouble.

On a side note, Lester is pitching about as good as the man he was going to be traded for this past offseason. :speechless:

That is the best point I've seen so far.. and it saved us a lot of $$ and prospects besides him.

I'm glad we kept him.

ManRam
07-04-2008, 01:18 PM
Good start. Making Rasner work. We need to get a run in though. Can't waste this chance.

ManRam
07-04-2008, 01:19 PM
Bases loaded! Let's go Lowell!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 01:31 PM
I smell an inning ending Double play. :pray:

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 01:33 PM
:mad:

ManRam
07-04-2008, 01:41 PM
Bad first inning. Kind of like what happened yesterday, just the roles reversed. Can't let chances like that go to waste. Especially in the first inning....

Hopefully we can fight back. Rasner has thrown a ton of pitches, so there is definitely a chance.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 02:05 PM
Lowell gives the Sox their first run of the day!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 02:08 PM
DAMN an inch from being a home run.

RSF1977
07-04-2008, 02:14 PM
You'll never see that again lol!

ManRam
07-04-2008, 02:25 PM
That was a weird play for sure. Never seen the ball sit up like that. Easily could have gone over the wall.

Jacoby now has two bunt singles. Kid is fast.

ManRam
07-04-2008, 02:59 PM
Lowell finally comes through! 3 run homer.

6-3!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 03:07 PM
Alright, time to settle in Beckett.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 03:11 PM
Man, who would have though that out of Lester, and Beckett, that Lester would be the one to shut down the Yankees.

Tragedy
07-04-2008, 03:39 PM
Man, who would have though that out of Lester, and Beckett, that Lester would be the one to shut down the Yankees.
Pretty strange, huh?

Good outing by Beckett today. 6 IP. Unfortunately, that leaves 2 IP for Okajima, Delcarmen, or Hansen to come in and blow it.

bosox1899
07-04-2008, 03:46 PM
ok i know we re winning and all but this happens way to often with the red sox, we have men on 1st and 3rd and no outs then we have the bottom of the order come up and they dont come through with anything, crisp pops out and varitek does his usual and strikes out. Will someone please get the man from 3rd at least home and stop wasting opportunities to gain insurance runs..come on!!

Tragedy
07-04-2008, 03:49 PM
ok i know we re winning and all but this happens way to often with the red sox, we have men on 1st and 3rd and no outs then we have the bottom of the order come up and they dont come through with anything, crisp pops out and varitek does his usual and strikes out. Will someone please get the man from 3rd at least home and stop wasting opportunities to gain insurance runs..come on!!
It's the bottom of the order for a reason. They suck.

But yeah, another runner sent on a hit and run with Tek at the plate. I know some people who won't be happy. :laugh2:

bosox1899
07-04-2008, 03:55 PM
It's the bottom of the order for a reason. They suck.

But yeah, another runner sent on a hit and run with Tek at the plate. I know some people who won't be happy. :laugh2:

yes true but they should be able to at least hit a sac fly or something its really annoying bc it is the fact that they are choking bc if no one was on they would have at least hit a fly ball or better, but they see a good opportunity for a RBI so they try to hard. As for the hit and run with tek, francona is too stubborn to learn his lesson i guess thats the second time already that Ive seen tek strike out with a hit and run, really pathetic

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 03:56 PM
Pretty strange, huh?

Good outing by Beckett today. 6 IP. Unfortunately, that leaves 2 IP for Okajima, Delcarmen, or Hansen to come in and blow it.

Way to be positive. :D

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 03:57 PM
Lugo. :clap:

ManRam
07-04-2008, 04:02 PM
Bullpen blowing time...

Hopefully this game gets called before the pen can totally lose it.

bosox1899
07-04-2008, 04:04 PM
Way to be positive. :D

well i hope u are watching it because its hard to be positive when its almost a guarantee that the bullpen will blow the game.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 04:05 PM
Oki :mad:

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 04:06 PM
well i hope u are watching it because its hard to be positive when its almost a guarantee that the bullpen will blow the game.

I am watching. And I see how you can be negative, but still. :D

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 04:06 PM
Let's go Delcarmen!

ManRam
07-04-2008, 04:07 PM
I have faith in MDC.

ManRam
07-04-2008, 04:07 PM
I have more faith in MDC, especially considering A-Rod is up. ;)

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 04:08 PM
A-Rod looking silly!

ManRam
07-04-2008, 04:08 PM
I heart A-Rod.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 04:08 PM
Yes Delcarmen!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 04:08 PM
I heart A-Rod.

Don't we all? :D

Tragedy
07-04-2008, 04:09 PM
Don't we all? :D
Madonna does. :shrug:

Can't believe they actually got out of it!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 04:12 PM
Rain out. :pray:

Tragedy
07-04-2008, 04:14 PM
Rain out. :pray:
Or just allow us to skip the 8th so we can go right to Papelbon in the 9th.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 04:24 PM
Or just allow us to skip the 8th so we can go right to Papelbon in the 9th.

Also acceptable.

MVPOrtiz201
07-04-2008, 04:44 PM
If we rained out we would win the game wouldn't we?

ManRam
07-04-2008, 04:53 PM
If we rained out we would win the game wouldn't we?

Yes. But the game wont be rained out. The radar doesn't look that bad...

MVPOrtiz201
07-04-2008, 04:56 PM
Yes. But the game wont be rained out. The radar doesn't look that bad...

OK, thanks.

-Lavigne43-
07-04-2008, 06:27 PM
What a terrible call. He clearly caught it

gcoll
07-04-2008, 06:31 PM
Yeah. Lucky it didn't cost us too much.

I don't know how he missed it. Perhaps he thought it was trapped or something.

Denied Coco a web gem.

Petertherock
07-04-2008, 06:31 PM
The Yankees umpires tried to cheat but we pulled it out in the end. 2-2 so far against NY so it's looking good to take at least 3-4 and hopefully sweep!

I wonder if the Yankee manager will get sacked if we sweep them lol!

gcoll
07-04-2008, 06:32 PM
The Yankees umpires tried to cheat
Nah. Just thought he trapped it. Honest mistake.

Tragedy
07-04-2008, 07:55 PM
Nah. Just thought he trapped it. Honest mistake.
Yeah. Unfortunately, they don't have the benefit of amazing instant replays like us fans sitting at home do. Like you said, an honest mistake.

And with that, we've taken the first two from the Yankees. That's 1 more than I thought we'd take the entire series. Here's to hoping we can pick up two more. :clap:

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-04-2008, 10:46 PM
Ahh Rays won. At least we don't lose ground..

-Lavigne43-
07-05-2008, 03:47 PM
Hopefully Manny can kill Mussina again

KmB728
07-05-2008, 04:05 PM
Big oppurtunity here in the 1st inning

-Lavigne43-
07-05-2008, 04:08 PM
Terrible base running by Pedroia. That cost at least a run

-Lavigne43-
07-05-2008, 04:14 PM
Good start for Masterson. I was worried he might be wild.

papipapsmanny
07-05-2008, 04:28 PM
terrible positioning varitek had right there

-Lavigne43-
07-05-2008, 04:29 PM
ugh Varitek left the plate wide open

papipapsmanny
07-05-2008, 04:47 PM
this is why i wanted buchholz starting he has nothing left to prove

masterson needs a bit more time down there

ManRam
07-05-2008, 05:00 PM
Masty got out of a nice little jamb.

Was that a "let's go Red Sox" cheer I heard in the crowd...with Yankee fans trying to boo it out? If so...that's amazing.

KmB728
07-05-2008, 05:25 PM
Third game in a row Jacoby was caught stealing .... dam!

papipapsmanny
07-05-2008, 06:05 PM
alright enough with this captain crap, i want tek gone at the end of the season

hell i want a replacement now

Tragedy
07-05-2008, 06:08 PM
I was expecting we'd lose 3 of 4. So, we already went one game past my expectations..

Sucks that we're probably going to lose a good game pitched by Masterson. My biggest pet peeve.

Petertherock
07-05-2008, 06:31 PM
alright enough with this captain crap, i want tek gone at the end of the season

hell i want a replacement now

So the guy is in a slump and you want a replacement? Did you want to trade Ortiz at the beginning of the year when he was 0-30 or whatever he was?

ManRam
07-05-2008, 06:41 PM
So the guy is in a slump and you want a replacement? Did you want to trade Ortiz at the beginning of the year when he was 0-30 or whatever he was?

Tek is in a 3 year slump. Last year he was up and down. He sucked in 2005, and is in more than a "slump" this year. He had an alright May, but he has been down right horrible lately. His age is a problem. Ortiz doesn't have the age issue yet, which is why it's not fair to say what you said.

Timlin had a nice inning, BTW. Good to see.

ManRam
07-05-2008, 06:42 PM
JD single. 1 man on, 0 outs.

Manny, time to snap out of it!

ManRam
07-05-2008, 06:43 PM
Manny hit for the third time.

2 men on, 0 outs.

ManRam
07-05-2008, 06:45 PM
LOWELL! 2-1, 0 outs!

We own Mariano.

ManRam
07-05-2008, 06:48 PM
Mo has lost it. Hits Youk. Have you ever seen him hit two in an inning?? Amazing.

Bases loaded, 0 outs!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-05-2008, 06:50 PM
:mad:

L-MiLLZ44
07-05-2008, 06:50 PM
i'll keep ya company in here ..... LETS GO RED SOX!!!!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-05-2008, 06:50 PM
Come on Tek! Deep Fly Out is all we need! :pray:

L-MiLLZ44
07-05-2008, 06:50 PM
**** you coco!!!!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-05-2008, 06:51 PM
Or a walk. :D

ManRam
07-05-2008, 06:51 PM
I don't trust Tek, even with a 2-0 count.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-05-2008, 06:51 PM
Are You %^&*'ing Kidding Me?

ManRam
07-05-2008, 06:51 PM
C'mon Lugo...

:pray:

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-05-2008, 06:52 PM
Oh god, game over.

L-MiLLZ44
07-05-2008, 06:52 PM
****!!!!

L-MiLLZ44
07-05-2008, 06:52 PM
Oh god, game over.

never give up :mad:

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-05-2008, 06:53 PM
never give up :mad:

I take it you don't see Lugo much?

ManRam
07-05-2008, 06:53 PM
That was way outside...

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-05-2008, 06:53 PM
That Was A Ball!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-05-2008, 06:54 PM
Told you... :mad:

Tragedy
07-05-2008, 06:54 PM
:laugh:

Varitek, Lugo. Awesome.

ManRam
07-05-2008, 06:54 PM
Oh well...

We'll take the series tomorrow.

bosox1899
07-05-2008, 06:55 PM
this team sucks man cant score one run with no outs bases loaded??? choke artists again, theres no other excuse for not getting a sac fly...i really wish varitek goes on the DL or something he blows as does the whole bottom of the order. no clutch hitters what so ever, ****iing pathetic...cant wait to see the excuses im gonna hear on here. I bet we ll hear, "at least we almost made a comeback" or "o well we won the first two at least" some BS like that

papipapsmanny
07-05-2008, 06:56 PM
wow tek get out of here

and wow, theo stop being a dumbass and let lowrie start

and wow **** crisp

-Lavigne43-
07-05-2008, 06:56 PM
Unfortunately it had to come down to our awful bottom of the order.

L-MiLLZ44
07-05-2008, 06:56 PM
w/e the yankees have to win some games, they still can't hit for ****, enjoy winning the division boys

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-05-2008, 06:56 PM
The more I watch the replay.. The more I wonder why Tek swung at that pitch... He wasn't able to extend so it'd be hard for him to get it in the hair, let alone deep. And it probably wouldn't have been called a strike..

Metswillprevail
07-05-2008, 06:56 PM
gg varitek. came up shaking your head, took all the pitches and kept shaking your head, and pOOped out and shook your head to the dugout. way to blow it captn

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-05-2008, 06:57 PM
w/e the yankees have to win some games, they still can't hit for ****, enjoy winning the division boys

Forget those flipping Rays eh?

iam brett favre
07-05-2008, 06:57 PM
:k:

Silver88
07-05-2008, 06:57 PM
What a game.

L-MiLLZ44
07-05-2008, 06:58 PM
this team sucks man cant score one run with no outs bases loaded??? choke artists again, theres no other excuse for not getting a sac fly...i really wish varitek goes on the DL or something he blows as does the whole bottom of the order. no clutch hitters what so ever, ****iing pathetic...cant wait to see the excuses im gonna hear on here. I bet we ll hear, "at least we almost made a comeback" or "o well we won the first two at least" some BS like that

c'mon man, ur still 5 games up on the yankees, and ur missing one of ur best bats

Tragedy
07-05-2008, 06:58 PM
Unfortunately it had to come down to our awful bottom of the order.
Which is why I'm not going to be unhappy to see Varitek off this team, and why Lugo must go.

LA412
07-05-2008, 06:58 PM
wow....how embarrassing......crisp, tek, lugo didnt have a shot in hell at doing anything.....we need a bat....now

ManRam
07-05-2008, 06:58 PM
this team sucks man cant score one run with no outs bases loaded??? choke artists again, theres no other excuse for not getting a sac fly...i really wish varitek goes on the DL or something he blows as does the whole bottom of the order. no clutch hitters what so ever, ****iing pathetic...cant wait to see the excuses im gonna hear on here. I bet we ll hear, "at least we almost made a comeback" or "o well we won the first two at least" some BS like that

Stopped reading there.

You can't win them all. If that last inning went 1-2-3, you wouldn't be saying the team sucks...which is the weird thing. You wouldn't be this mad. Yes, we did almost make a comeback, that's better than going 1-2-3 in the 9th.

Relax. It's a loss. You know how many times the Yankees had the bases loaded this series with 1 or 0 outs? Tek sucks. We know that. Lugo is having a decent season, but you can't expect him, or be too pissed at him when he gets out. It's just a loss. Can't win them all.

L-MiLLZ44
07-05-2008, 06:59 PM
Forget those flipping Rays eh?

no i know who they are ...... iv'e never seen them play with any purpose down the stretch, but iv'e seen the red sox play during urgency, and they ain't that bad

bosox1899
07-05-2008, 06:59 PM
varitek needs to stay out of the lineup for a while, the guy is one of the worse offensive players on this team right now, hes pretty much an automatic out. but ive seen this since the beginning of the season, they always have bases loaded or 1st and 3rd or some threat with less than 2 outs but no one ever comes through. but ill have the same attitude as some others and say "oh well, we only lost by 1"

Tragedy
07-05-2008, 07:01 PM
varitek needs to stay out of the lineup for a while, the guy is one of the worse offensive players on this team right now, hes pretty much an automatic out. but ive seen this since the beginning of the season, they always have bases loaded or 1st and 3rd or some threat with less than 2 outs but no one ever comes through. but ill have the same attitude as some others and say "oh well, we only lost by 1"
What do you mean "one of"? He IS, far and away, THE worst player on this team offensively.

L-MiLLZ44
07-05-2008, 07:01 PM
varitek needs to stay out of the lineup for a while, the guy is one of the worse offensive players on this team right now, hes pretty much an automatic out. but ive seen this since the beginning of the season, they always have bases loaded or 1st and 3rd or some threat with less than 2 outs but no one ever comes through. but ill have the same attitude as some others and say "oh well, we only lost by 1"

if mo had a 1-2-3 inning u wouldn't be as pissed ..... the sox didn't get the job done today, but the wonderful thing about baseball is they play tomorrow

bosox1899
07-05-2008, 07:02 PM
c'mon man, ur still 5 games up on the yankees, and ur missing one of ur best bats

yea i know but those situations where you can comeback and beat a team that is struggling horrible as the yanks are and then have crisp **** his pants and strike out, varitek has to swing at a 2-0 pitch and do what he always does and pop out, and then lugo, who i dont even need to mention how he does, i just cant wait til lugos contract is up or we get rid of him somehow. im so sick of francona not pinch hitting for varitek in that situation, id rather have cash go up there and give it a try, theres no way he could be as bad as varitek is at this moment

iam brett favre
07-05-2008, 07:03 PM
i thought you had us for a second.. then i saws jason "ill shake my head after every pitch" varitek come up... i knew we had you.

:p really though does he always do that?

bosox1899
07-05-2008, 07:07 PM
Stopped reading there.

You can't win them all. If that last inning went 1-2-3, you wouldn't be saying the team sucks...which is the weird thing. You wouldn't be this mad. Yes, we did almost make a comeback, that's better than going 1-2-3 in the 9th.

Relax. It's a loss. You know how many times the Yankees had the bases loaded this series with 1 or 0 outs? Tek sucks. We know that. Lugo is having a decent season, but you can't expect him, or be too pissed at him when he gets out. It's just a loss. Can't win them all.



if mo had a 1-2-3 inning u wouldn't be as pissed ..... the sox didn't get the job done today, but the wonderful thing about baseball is they play tomorrow

i wouldnt be as pissed if we went 1-2-3 bc i wouldnt had to worry about thinking what could have been if we just hit a fly ball, crisp may have been better off trying a squeeze bunt there it may have worked. I cant say this team sucks, but they do suck when they need a important hit or in clutch situations, man we need Ortiz back so badly, theres no way he would have struck out or poped out if hes healthy.

Yes there is always tomorrow but we just cant keep missing opportunities to win games like these, these are momentum builders and confidence boosters.

KmB728
07-05-2008, 07:09 PM
Why didnt they pinch hit casey for Tek, then put cash into catch????

Tito your killin me!

Tragedy
07-05-2008, 07:10 PM
Why didnt they pinch hit casey for Tek, then put cash into catch????

Tito your killin me!
Yeah, I'm starting to agree.

It's no longer a "slump" that he's in. He just sucks offensively, plain and simple. While I like Tito being faithful to his players, in a 2-1 game, when the bases are loaded, you need to let someone other than Varitek (Sean Casey) get a chance. Varitek has killed us too many times during rallies. Again, I like that he's staying true to Varitek, but you can't keep him in all situations.

Just a bad move.

-Lavigne43-
07-05-2008, 07:13 PM
Sean Casey already pinch hit for Cora the inning before.

Tragedy
07-05-2008, 07:17 PM
Sean Casey already pinch hit for Cora the inning before.
Damn. Well, lets still treat the situation the same way.

CASEY SHOULD HAVE PINCH HIT FOR VARITEK. :pity:

CyYoungPapelbon
07-05-2008, 07:18 PM
Lugo is having a decent season.Not really, he's been pretty damn awful. He's on pace for 30 errors, he has a SLG% under .330, an OPS of .680 and he's one of the worst hitters in the league with runners in scoring position at .153. The only half decent thing about him is his .350 OBP, but that doesn't mean much when you do everything else horribly. It's time for Theo to admit his mistake in signing Lugo by calling up Lowrie and starting him.

Varitek was just unbelievably awful today. He played as bad as one can possibly play. 0-4, 2 K's, a complete failure with the game on the line in the 9th, a passed ball (or did they never change the "wild pitch" ruling? Either way, that was awful on his part), 0-2 in throwing guys out, didn't block home at all with Giambi running and if he had, he's out at home.

It's kind of sad when you EXPECT the bottom half of the order to be unable to even get a guy in from 3rd with 0 outs like I did.

We need Ortiz back and Lowrie called up so we only have 1 automatic out in Varitek. Can't afford to have an entire bottom half of the order that can't hit...

-Lavigne43-
07-05-2008, 07:20 PM
It's not like we deserved to win this game anyways. We were lucky it was that close.

PapelbonLester
07-05-2008, 07:23 PM
lowrie in for lugo then trade lugo and a decent prospect for a bullpen arm. then beg tek to start hitting the ball......thats what needs to happen

bosox1899
07-05-2008, 07:24 PM
Damn. Well, lets still treat the situation the same way.

CASEY SHOULD HAVE PINCH HIT FOR VARITEK. :pity:

how bout we just pinch hit cash for varitek, francona should start varitek for the first 6 innings or so then have cash come in to finish the game, since varitek keeps sucking in spots when we need hits the most.

Tragedy
07-05-2008, 07:26 PM
lowrie in for lugo then trade lugo and a decent prospect for a bullpen arm. then beg tek to start hitting the ball......thats what needs to happen
Honestly, I don't see why they really NEED to trade Lugo. If a team is willing to take him, great, do it. If not? Just designate him. So we are forced to eat his salary; So what? The D-Backs were man enough to admit they made a huge mistake when they designated Russ Ortiz back a few years ago, and we need to own up and do the same thing.

I know we won't, but we should.

bosox1899
07-05-2008, 07:27 PM
so does anyone think we should resign varitek after this season? I certainly dont and hope he isn't i cant take another season of him striking out and popping out 3/4 of the time hes up there

PapelbonLester
07-05-2008, 07:28 PM
im almost at that point myself. im sure 1 team would trade a decent bullpen arm for him if they also get a prospect in return and thats what we need right now. but if we cant get one team to bite i say designate him because i cant stand watching him stink up the field when i no lowrie would be helping us out so much more.

PapelbonLester
07-05-2008, 07:31 PM
so does anyone think we should resign varitek after this season? I certainly dont and hope he isn't i cant take another season of him striking out and popping out 3/4 of the time hes up there

that would mean he would be hitting .250 and if he was id be jumping for joy.

-Lavigne43-
07-05-2008, 07:33 PM
Try to trade Lugo back to the Dodgers lol. With Furcal done for the year they need a SS

Tragedy
07-05-2008, 07:34 PM
Try to trade Lugo back to the Dodgers lol. With Furcal done for the year they need a SS
This is true. Though, I've heard that they're interested in Jack Wilson, which would make quite a bit more sense for them.

If only Lugo previously played well for them. If he did, maybe they'd bite. Since he was awful, they probably wouldn't bother.

PapelbonLester
07-05-2008, 07:35 PM
Try to trade Lugo back to the Dodgers lol. With Furcal done for the year they need a SS
hahahaha they are a wanna be sox team anyway. with nomar,lowe, i no theres more. hey id even take nomar for lugo. that would be classic

Tragedy
07-05-2008, 07:38 PM
hahahaha they are a wanna be sox team anyway. with nomar,lowe, i no theres more. hey id even take nomar for lugo. that would be classic
I'd take Nomar, sure. Because, the Red Sox wouldn't have an excuse for not calling up Lowrie once Nomar put himself on the DL again.

And on' the Dodgers, you can't forget Grady who was there until last year. And Bill Mueller, he now works in the FO.

gcoll
07-05-2008, 08:05 PM
Yeah. Even though I'm iffy on Lowrie's abilities as a SS.....he's a better bat than Lugo.

If we get Ortiz back....insert Lowrie instead of Lugo.....we only really have one hole in the lineup (Tek), unless Tito insists on using Coco way too much.

Ellsbury
Pedroia
Ortiz
Manny
Drew
Lowell
Youk
Lowrie
Tek

That's a pretty bad *** lineup.

-Lavigne43-
07-05-2008, 08:07 PM
With the way Ellsbury has been slumping it should be

Pedroia
Youkilis
Ortiz
Manny
Drew
Lowell
Ellsbury
Lowrie
Varitek

gcoll
07-05-2008, 08:10 PM
With the way Ellsbury has been slumping it should be
Either way. It's still better than the lineup we have now, and the lineup we have now is pretty good.

It just runs into a vacuum when you got Crisp-Lugo-Tek- Ellsbury coming up, with the way Ellsbury has been slumping.

Petertherock
07-05-2008, 09:45 PM
So the guy is in a slump and you want a replacement? Did you want to trade Ortiz at the beginning of the year when he was 0-30 or whatever he was?

After seeing him in the 9th I am with you all...get rid of him and get someone who can at least get a sac fly. The trouble is, Tek's value isn't in his bat or defense but it's in calling the games. He has called more no hitters than any other catcher. He would have had another one if Schilling hadn't shaken him off last year. No one else comes close to being able to call the pitches as good as Tek. That's worth more wins than a better bat or better defensive catcher which right not you won't find anyway.

bosox1899
07-05-2008, 11:55 PM
After seeing him in the 9th I am with you all...get rid of him and get someone who can at least get a sac fly. The trouble is, Tek's value isn't in his bat or defense but it's in calling the games. He has called more no hitters than any other catcher. He would have had another one if Schilling hadn't shaken him off last year. No one else comes close to being able to call the pitches as good as Tek. That's worth more wins than a better bat or better defensive catcher which right not you won't find anyway.

well hire him as a coach or something and he can call it from the bench

knittingmill
07-06-2008, 05:49 AM
It's not like we deserved to win this game anyways. We were lucky it was that close.

we're not talking providence,fate,destiny or karma we're talking one run down with the bases loaded and no outs. it was just pathetic.

am i insane to think that if crisp bunted drew might've been able to make it home?

bosox1899
07-06-2008, 09:40 AM
we're not talking providence,fate,destiny or karma we're talking one run down with the bases loaded and no outs. it was just pathetic.

am i insane to think that if crisp bunted drew might've been able to make it home?

it was actually moss, but they both have similar speed and i think yes he would have either way, bunting may have been the best option there, since crisp sucks and basically can only bunt. I dont get it why people are trying to justify this loss by saying, "we didnt deserve this game anyways" or "oh well theres always tomorrow, we cant win em all", do they not realize the situation we had :confused: we had the tying run on 3rd with no outs, how??? how do you not get that run in :mad: they dont deserve to be in the major leagues if they cant even get a sac fly.

Tragedy
07-06-2008, 10:40 AM
it was actually moss, but they both have similar speed and i think yes he would have either way, bunting may have been the best option there, since crisp sucks and basically can only bunt. I dont get it why people are trying to justify this loss by saying, "we didnt deserve this game anyways" or "oh well theres always tomorrow, we cant win em all", do they not realize the situation we had :confused: we had the tying run on 3rd with no outs, how??? how do you not get that run in :mad: they dont deserve to be in the major leagues if they cant even get a sac fly.
I agree with mostly everything except for the last line. Don't deserve to be in the majors? We won the World Series LAST YEAR, for god sakes.

But yes, those that are saying 'Oh, no biggy, we shouldn't have won anyways!' are fooling themselves. We had the worlds best scenario in the top of the 9th off a pitcher that, while he's unbelievable, is a guy that we've pounded plenty.

We should have won that game because of the situation we had in the final inning. That we didn't win (Or at least tie it and make it a game) is just terrible.

bosox1899
07-06-2008, 12:26 PM
I agree with mostly everything except for the last line. Don't deserve to be in the majors? We won the World Series LAST YEAR, for god sakes.

But yes, those that are saying 'Oh, no biggy, we shouldn't have won anyways!' are fooling themselves. We had the worlds best scenario in the top of the 9th off a pitcher that, while he's unbelievable, is a guy that we've pounded plenty.

We should have won that game because of the situation we had in the final inning. That we didn't win (Or at least tie it and make it a game) is just terrible.

i was referring to crisp and lugo mainly, we won the WS but no thanks to crisp and lugo, ill give a little credit to Varitek, but hes almost at the bottom of the hill on his career.

asomen
07-06-2008, 03:08 PM
I agree with mostly everything except for the last line. Don't deserve to be in the majors? We won the World Series LAST YEAR, for god sakes.

But yes, those that are saying 'Oh, no biggy, we shouldn't have won anyways!' are fooling themselves. We had the worlds best scenario in the top of the 9th off a pitcher that, while he's unbelievable, is a guy that we've pounded plenty.

We should have won that game because of the situation we had in the final inning. That we didn't win (Or at least tie it and make it a game) is just terrible.

To support the people who have said that we didn't deserve to be in that situation to begin with...its not so much that...as it is we got very lucky.

Mariano hit youk on a 0-2 count...considering mariano has the best control out of all relievers...to see him hit 2 was ridiculous.

Yes we should've scored that run...but 2 of the guys who got on base was on pure luck. The closer who has some of the best control as anyone...hit 2 in the 9th. Little luck involved in that.

bosox1899
07-06-2008, 09:20 PM
apparently nothing has changed since last night, we were lucky to get that one run with crisp batting due to a pass ball, lugo does what he always does with RISP and strikes out, cash did no better than varitek. Why cant these people just put the freaking ball in play sometime instead of striking out? :mad:

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-06-2008, 09:24 PM
Pedroia!

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-06-2008, 09:27 PM
Drew... :mad:

Greenmonster24
07-06-2008, 09:28 PM
At least they scored 3 that inning to give Wakefield run sopport this game.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-06-2008, 09:41 PM
What the hell...

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-06-2008, 09:50 PM
Girardi is thrown out the game. :p

Tragedy
07-06-2008, 09:53 PM
What'd he get ejected for? I missed it.

Stupid Wake giving up that hit to Jeter. 3-2.

Boston-Born
07-06-2008, 09:56 PM
what a play by lugo

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-06-2008, 09:57 PM
Hell of a nice play by Lugo.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-06-2008, 09:57 PM
What'd he get ejected for? I missed it.

Stupid Wake giving up that hit to Jeter. 3-2.

Arguing balls and strikes. :p

Tragedy
07-06-2008, 09:57 PM
Appreciate the help, guys. :pity:

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-06-2008, 09:58 PM
Look up Tragedy? :p

bosox1899
07-06-2008, 10:01 PM
did i just see lugo actually do something to contribute to the team??? well he still blows and hes still my least favorite player on the team

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-06-2008, 10:04 PM
HAH jeter

BeAn 5 ToWnE
07-06-2008, 10:06 PM
Yeahh Cash! RBI Double!

Petertherock
07-06-2008, 10:06 PM
I think Cash is better than Tek.

Greenmonster24
07-06-2008, 10:20 PM
Oh boy here comes our bullpen. Please be better then in Tampa Bay

bosox1899
07-06-2008, 10:21 PM
I think Cash is better than Tek.

at this point in their careers cash is better, but if you would compare them at the same ages, Id have to go with Tek. Tek did have 20+ HR power when he was a little younger and we could actually count on him to hit the ball in play

Petertherock
07-06-2008, 10:23 PM
We're screwed now.

Petertherock
07-06-2008, 10:24 PM
Lopez sucks!

kazzy4080
07-06-2008, 10:25 PM
did anyone see that throw by coco, my grandma could throw further than that

JWalk126
07-06-2008, 10:26 PM
shucks....

kazzy4080
07-06-2008, 10:27 PM
nice play by cash to get he out after a poor throw by DP

bosox1899
07-06-2008, 10:27 PM
this ****ing teams bullpen sucks, wake always gets himself in these situations anyways so hes not fully off the hook. another blown lead by this bullpen. Theo wake the **** up and make some moves demote and promote some players we cant keep having this **** happen. and the worse thing is titos dumbass leaves lopez in the game.

JWalk126
07-06-2008, 10:27 PM
good play by cash.....

cmoneytakemoney
07-06-2008, 10:30 PM
Francona should have never taking Wake out. WTF is the matter with him. Who gives a **** if A-Rod steals 2nd. It wasn't like he was the tying run or something.

kazzy4080
07-06-2008, 10:31 PM
:offtopic:

my best friend owns a bowling alley and manny declarmans mom bowls there