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daleja424
07-03-2008, 03:41 PM
The Lakers, Dallas Mavericks, Houston Rockets and Miami Heat are expected to be among the teams interested in obtaining Ron Artest from the Sacramento Kings once the NBA's dead period ends July 9. Kings general manager Geoff Petrie figures to receive plenty of calls about Artest and his expiring $7.4 millon contract, according to the Sacramento Bee newspaper. No reason to think Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak won't call, too. Los Angeles Daily News

Don't like it at all... Marion is a better player then Artest... why would we want him???

MiamiHeatMafia
07-03-2008, 03:57 PM
Artest can score better but I would still rather have Marion.

Master Mind
07-03-2008, 03:59 PM
I rather keep Marion....

MiamiHeat
07-03-2008, 04:12 PM
ron artest defensive is good

fins08
07-03-2008, 04:28 PM
marion is better.

Grifftiggs
07-03-2008, 05:14 PM
Tough call but they dont have matching contacts. Doesnt Marion make like 17 mil this season and artest is like 8. Now Haslem for artest then that would be sweet

daleja424
07-03-2008, 05:19 PM
Tough call but they dont have matching contacts. Doesnt Marion make like 17 mil this season and artest is like 8. Now Haslem for artest then that would be sweet

thats what I was thinking... but where on earth would he play??? we would have to have marion for brand deal in the works...

sergiogon
07-03-2008, 05:34 PM
artest for haslem is imposoble, marion,artest,beasly??who will be the six man??becasuse they can play together.
marion for artest+beno coul be good??

kanersen
07-03-2008, 05:53 PM
while i do think marion is better then artest, they are the same level calibre player
i can see miami doing a trade for artest + s&t of udrich and fillers if they really want to not pay marion the 9 mill more then they'd have to pay artest
that is if the kings are willing to pull the trigger

King Koopa
07-03-2008, 05:55 PM
Lineup
PG mario/Banks
SG Wade/Cook
SF Marion/Artest
PF Beasley/Blount
C ????/Zo

This lineup doesnt make sense, unless were trading marion for a Pg like Ellis or something. But warriors arent going to trade Ellis since they lost Baron. And theres only 2 PGs i would trade marion for, its Ellis and Baron too bad we cant get none of the two. OR we might trade Marion for Andris Biedrins but i wouldnt make that Trade. But it would be nice if we get baron for Marion which its not going to happen.

PG Baron/Mario
SG Wade/Cook
SF Artest/Wright
PF Beasley/Haslem
C ????/Zo

saint7888
07-03-2008, 06:54 PM
It wouldn't be marion for artest.... it would probally be like Haslum and a future pick.

I like it for use.... artest defending beasly in practice is going to be good for him. If he can score on Artest he can score on n e 1 in the league. The only thing is who's your center?

Use might have to trade marion for a C

Maybe like to denver for camby and JR smith

Or Chicago for Chandler and Hinerick

kntresistheheat
07-03-2008, 09:51 PM
I like this, marion only play's away from the ball and cant create his own shot and artest can defend just as good can shoot three's can drive it to the basket and he is tough and another player that can bring the ball up! Remember people shawn marion stat's are like that because he had steve nash, we in the other hand dont have a steve nash!

Ron artest stat's


99-00 CHI 72 63 31.1 .407 .314 .674 .9 3.4 4.3 2.8 1.65 .54 2.31 2.20 12.0
00-01 CHI 76 74 31.1 .401 .291 .750 .8 3.1 3.9 3.0 2.00 .59 2.09 3.30 11.9
01-02 CHI 27 26 30.5 .433 .396 .628 1.5 3.4 4.9 2.9 2.78 .85 2.56 4.00 15.6
01-02 IND 28 24 29.3 .411 .215 .733 1.2 3.8 5.0 1.8 2.36 .57 1.75 3.90 10.9
01-02 -- 55 50 29.9 .423 .312 .667 1.3 3.6 4.9 2.3 2.56 .71 2.15 3.90 13.2
02-03 IND 69 67 33.6 .428 .336 .736 1.5 3.8 5.2 2.9 2.30 .72 2.10 3.50 15.5
03-04 IND 73 71 37.2 .421 .310 .733 1.4 3.9 5.3 3.7 2.08 .68 2.77 2.70 18.3
04-05 IND 7 7 41.6 .496 .412 .922 1.1 5.3 6.4 3.1 1.71 .86 2.43 3.90 24.6
05-06 IND 16 16 37.7 .460 .333 .612 1.6 3.3 4.9 2.2 2.63 .69 2.69 2.80 19.4
05-06 SAC 40 40 40.1 .383 .302 .717 1.2 4.0 5.2 4.2 2.00 .75 2.20 3.00 16.9
05-06 -- 56 56 39.4 .404 .308 .675 1.3 3.8 5.1 3.6 2.18 .73 2.34 2.90 17.6
06-07 SAC 70 65 37.7 .440 .358 .740 1.5 5.0 6.5 3.4 2.13 .61 2.09 2.90 18.8
Career 478 453 34.3 .420 .322 .721 1.2 3.8 5.0 3.1 2.10 .60 2.27 3.10 15.4
Playoff 31 31 38.7 .384 .336 .733 1.6 4.5 6.1 3.0 1.84 .94 2.16 3.40 17.3
All-Star 1 0 17.0 .600 .000 .500 1.0 2.0 3.0 3.0 1.00 .00 1.00 2.00 7.0


Shawn marion stats


99-00 PHO 51 38 24.7 .471 .182 .847 2.1 4.5 6.5 1.4 .75 1.04 1.00 2.20 10.2
00-01 PHO 79 79 36.2 .480 .256 .810 2.8 7.9 10.7 2.0 1.67 1.37 1.63 2.70 17.3
01-02 PHO 81 81 38.4 .469 .393 .845 2.6 7.3 9.9 2.0 1.84 1.06 1.78 2.60 19.1
02-03 PHO 81 81 41.6 .452 .387 .851 2.5 7.1 9.5 2.4 2.28 1.17 1.94 2.60 21.2
03-04 PHO 79 79 40.7 .440 .340 .851 2.7 6.6 9.3 2.7 2.11 1.32 1.97 2.60 19.0
04-05 PHO 81 81 38.8 .476 .334 .833 2.9 8.4 11.3 1.9 2.01 1.47 1.54 2.50 19.4
05-06 PHX 81 81 40.3 .525 .331 .809 3.1 8.8 11.8 1.8 1.98 1.69 1.54 2.80 21.8
06-07 PHX 80 80 37.6 .524 .317 .810 2.2 7.7 9.8 1.7 1.95 1.53 1.43 2.70 17.5
Career 613 600 37.9 .479 .342 .830 2.6 7.4 10.0 2.0 1.88 1.30 1.63 2.60 18.6
Playoff 65 65 40.6 .463 .346 .811 2.8 8.1 10.9 1.4 1.49 1.52 1.25 2.90 17.1
All-Star 4 0 19.5 .575 .000 .500 4.3 2.3 6.5 3.0 1.50 .50 .75 .50 12.5

daleja424
07-03-2008, 10:01 PM
Career numbers- Marion gets 5 more rbs, scores 2 more points, shoots 6% better from the field, shoots 2 % better from 3's, shoots 10% better at free throws, averages 0.5 more blocks, averages 15 more games played per season...plus Marion's middle name is Dwayne...

marion is more versatile, durable, and is a better opition, b/c he doesnt require offense to be run through him...

kntresistheheat
07-03-2008, 10:08 PM
Calm down, what I am saying is marion is not that much better than artest can pretty much do the same except rebound less than marion....but everything else is pretty close? Artest can create his own shot and pound the ball in there and for less money......Hmmmm let's see 7.8mil or 17.8mil and there very comparable players!;)




Career numbers- Marion gets 5 more rbs, scores 2 more points, shoots 6% better from the field, shoots 2 % better from 3's, shoots 10% better at free throws, averages 0.5 more blocks, averages 15 more games played per season...plus Marion's middle name is Dwayne...

marion is more versatile, durable, and is a better opition, b/c he doesnt require offense to be run through him...

danbola
07-03-2008, 10:12 PM
Remember people shawn marion stat's are like that because he had steve nash, we in the other hand dont have a steve nash!


Shawn marion stats


99-00 PHO 51 38 24.7 .471 .182 .847 2.1 4.5 6.5 1.4 .75 1.04 1.00 2.20 10.2
00-01 PHO 79 79 36.2 .480 .256 .810 2.8 7.9 10.7 2.0 1.67 1.37 1.63 2.70 17.3
01-02 PHO 81 81 38.4 .469 .393 .845 2.6 7.3 9.9 2.0 1.84 1.06 1.78 2.60 19.1
02-03 PHO 81 81 41.6 .452 .387 .851 2.5 7.1 9.5 2.4 2.28 1.17 1.94 2.60 21.2
03-04 PHO 79 79 40.7 .440 .340 .851 2.7 6.6 9.3 2.7 2.11 1.32 1.97 2.60 19.0



Nash joined Marion in the 04-05 season. He accomplished these seasons without him.

daleja424
07-03-2008, 10:14 PM
Calm down, what I am saying is marion is not that much better than artest can pretty much do the same except rebound less than marion....but everything else is pretty close? Artest can create his own shot and pound the ball in there and for less money......Hmmmm let's see 7.8mil or 17.8mil and there very comparable!;)

but both are expiring this year... so it doesn't matter really from a cap space standpoint. In fact it would probably hurt our cap b/c we would have to take back some other contracts to make the money work... unless they give us only expiring deal back...

maybe something like Marion/Banks for Artest/Moore/Sheldon??? Plus we get a couple decent big guys... especially Moore...

daleja424
07-03-2008, 10:15 PM
Nash joined Marion in the 04-05 season. He accomplished these seasons without him.

excellent point!

kntresistheheat
07-03-2008, 10:16 PM
Yepppp that sounds good to me, if we can get moore and artest that would be nice! But you do get my point as far as the stat's and money wise right?




but both are expiring this year... so it doesn't matter really from a cap space standpoint. In fact it would probably hurt our cap b/c we would have to take back some other contracts to make the money work... unless they give us only expiring deal back...

maybe something like Marion/Banks for Artest/Moore/Sheldon??? Plus we get a couple decent big guys... especially Moore...

daleja424
07-03-2008, 10:20 PM
Yepppp that sounds good to me, if we can get moore and artest that would be nice! But you do get my point as far as the stat's and money wise right?

to a certain extent... the only thing is that if there was a way to get artest and keep the extra 9 mil in cap space that would be cool, but we will have to take back equal salary so we will either pay Marion 17 mil or pay ARtest + fillers 17 mil. Either way we are paying out that 7 mil... know what I mean?

It would be worth it to get Moore though I think... at least as a stop gap. Plus Artest would probably resign with us for closer to 10-11 mil rather then the 15-17 Marion will be looking for...

kntresistheheat
07-03-2008, 10:31 PM
Yep that is true, nash did join on 04 so you have a point......and you have another point as far the resigning 10 to 11mil would be nice for artest?




to a certain extent... the only thing is that if there was a way to get artest and keep the extra 9 mil in cap space that would be cool, but we will have to take back equal salary so we will either pay Marion 17 mil or pay ARtest + fillers 17 mil. Either way we are paying out that 7 mil... know what I mean?

It would be worth it to get Moore though I think... at least as a stop gap. Plus Artest would probably resign with us for closer to 10-11 mil rather then the 15-17 Marion will be looking for...

danbola
07-03-2008, 10:47 PM
Im torn on who I'd rather have on the Heat. Artest is younger, would probably ask for less money next year, can score in the post, and is a great defender. He is probably one of the top 3 defenders in the league.

But, Marion is better all-around, more athletic, more versatile, better on the break, much better rebounder, a good defender, and more of a sure thing. He does not need the ball to be effective and works great off his team mates.

Marion would probably be a better fit on the team. He would allow Wade and Beasley to be aggresive and take alot of shots, while he gets most of his points doing the little things. Artest would come in and look to take alot of shots slowing down Beasleys progress.

daleja424
07-03-2008, 10:53 PM
Im torn on who I'd rather have on the Heat. Artest is younger, would probably ask for less money next year, can score in the post, and is a great defender. He is probably one of the top 3 defenders in the league.

But, Marion is better all-around, more athletic, more versatile, better on the break, much better rebounder, a good defender, and more of a sure thing. He does not need the ball to be effective and works great off his team mates.

Marion would probably be a better fit on the team. He would allow Wade and Beasley to be aggresive and take alot of shots, while he gets most of his points doing the little things. Artest would come in and look to take alot of shots slowing down Beasleys progress.

yes an no... while artest looks for his offense more... marion actually has averaged 2 more shot attempts per game then artest in his career

King Koopa
07-04-2008, 01:54 AM
How about we just keep Marion and keep it at that. I really want to see, the Wade,Beasley,Marion Trio

fins08
07-04-2008, 08:41 AM
Daleja, or anyone, what does SB mean?

daleja424
07-04-2008, 09:15 AM
Daleja, or anyone, what does SB mean?

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