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gswmentality
07-02-2008, 03:01 AM
warriors are obviously going young and with that youth movement in place, another couple of years in the gutter. don't get me wrong, they'll be a decent team but they will definitely not be contenders anytime soon. the west will be too tough with all the teams stacked closely. without baron davis running the show, the warriors are out of the mix with out a true point guard. imo, if the warriors find a true power forward to mix with all the bigs in the west, they'll definitely be back in the mix but unfortunately if we develop wright into the kg part II, we're gonna have to wait in misery. we also need to pick up couple of bigs in order to rotate our lineup where we won't have too many smalls. we need couple of bigs to help out biedrins and wright in the middle.

lineup:
ellis, watson
jackson, buki, belinelli
harrington, pietrus (if resigned), randolph
wright, FA
biedrins, FA

kevin98189
07-02-2008, 03:13 AM
don nelson should play bellinelli more. he just needs more consistent playing time. but we need to fill many holes. a solid guard either back up or starter, and a back up center. i would really like croshere back. yea we do need to pull off a few trades or get a star player somehow to contend next seasopn. but hey maybe we can contend if our prospects pan out. so excited to c brandon wright next year.

Lincoln Logs
07-02-2008, 03:16 AM
Lineups kind of messed up.

PG - Ellis/ FA(take your pick, Livinston, Duhon, Watson)
SG - Belinelli/Azubuike(He's a UFA)
SF - Jackson/Randolph/Harrington
PF - Wright/Harrington/Hendrix
C - Biedrins/ Perovic

That's the lineup now. Still needs more players we can add through Free Agency/Trades, so really this is meaningless.

It'll still be an entertaining season, because these youngsters can all really play and have a ton of talent, and can only improve. I'm hoping Wright and Belinelli can shine once they get their minutes. There's still a solid core if Ellis can make the transition to PG at least decently this year. True they probably won't be a playoff team in this stacked conference, but I don't think they will be in the cellar, and could prove to be thorn in many teams side(hopefully the clippers :D)

kevin98189
07-02-2008, 03:31 AM
maybe im sorta contradicting myself from my previous post but re can possibly make a run with the potential talent we have. so the warriors should just forget baron and stop being so shocked that he opted out and signed withe clippers. warriors should get their *** working this summer to get into the playoffs.

we should sign back mickael pietrus ( good defendeer and solid 3 shooter and adds a lot of athleticism), Croshere ( good backup, imo he looked good last year.) and azuibuke. these are at least my first choice of role players we must re sign.

gswmentality
07-02-2008, 03:46 AM
Lineups kind of messed up.

PG - Ellis/ FA(take your pick, Livinston, Duhon, Watson)
SG - Belinelli/Azubuike(He's a UFA)
SF - Jackson/Randolph/Harrington
PF - Wright/Harrington/Hendrix
C - Biedrins/ Perovic

That's the lineup now. Still needs more players we can add through Free Agency/Trades, so really this is meaningless.

It'll still be an entertaining season, because these youngsters can all really play and have a ton of talent, and can only improve. I'm hoping Wright and Belinelli can shine once they get their minutes. There's still a solid core if Ellis can make the transition to PG at least decently this year. True they probably won't be a playoff team in this stacked conference, but I don't think they will be in the cellar, and could prove to be thorn in many teams side(hopefully the clippers :D)


the reason i posted jackson at the 2 guard is because the warriors have positions where we're stacked at. at the 3, if we resign players, which im assuming will happen now that we have room, we have to ship someone to the 2 spot. i dont thikn belinelli is a starter at this point but i do believe he will get some playing time with jackson. with the two slot closed, we have couple of players who can fill the 3 spot perfectly, pietrus being a good 3 point shoter with great defense and intensity which jackson played last year. buki or pietrus can both start and with wright learning, we can have him start at the four with a backup pf who can rebound. randolph can play either at the 3/4 spot which i think he'll excel at reboudning. he'll get quality minutes but not with wright and belinelli taking majority of it. at the same time, we can have a young player play the 2 spot while jackson can be that combo guard because he has great handling which can shift the lineup vs bigger teams like utah which would give monta some rest.

it would be
jackson
buki
pietrus
wright
biedrins

unfortunately i dont know what the warriors are going to do now they have all this extra money and cap room so im not definite it will turn out like this.

gswmentality
07-02-2008, 03:52 AM
at the same time, i believe the warriors are going to make some kind of shocking, good move during the offseason. (they better!) for the last couple of years dating back to the drafting of jamison, they were always said to be "rebuilding" so if this is the case, DAMN. they need to stop thikning of the "future" but at the same time thikn of the present and with the lineup they could've had, or can have, can still make noise in the heading into the playoffs. like i said earlier, one good big man away from being a playoff team. well actually, couple of role players as well.

Giants-49ers-Ws
07-02-2008, 04:55 AM
Here's the line-up:

PG: Telfair/_
SG: Ellis/Azubuike/Belinelli
SF: Jackson/Posey
PF:Smith/Wright/Randolph
C: Biedrins/Hendrix

Trade Harrington & Perovic for another Point Guard

Re-sign Ellis, Biedrins, Azubuike...let the rest of our FA's go..

Sign Josh Smith with all this free money..also add Sebastian Telfair (who could and would excel in Don Nelson's system)..and sign James Posey as a swingman off the bench

Get back to the playoffs!

Baronistheman5
07-02-2008, 08:06 AM
I agree with the man above me except for the telfair signing. i would prefer Livingston would would be cheaper and he's a big pg which I like but i deff agree with the dude above me about posey and Smith. Smith can jump high and has long arms and can block shots so we could put him @ the 4 without losing our running game cuz Smith has got speed and the elevation to dominate in our system.

HOZ THE KNICK
07-02-2008, 09:44 AM
ellis is gone too you watch .

Jimmy3702
07-02-2008, 11:01 AM
Could surprise as Baron hurt us just as much as he helped w/ bad shots & lacadasical play.

GWarrior
07-02-2008, 11:04 AM
Lets get the top two guards from the D-League

http://www.nba.com/dleague/statistics/player/Scoring.jsp?league=20&season=22007&conf=OVERALL&position=5&splitType=9&splitScope=GAME&qualified=Y&yearsExp=-1&splitDD=All%20Teams

gouldjg
07-02-2008, 12:50 PM
I agree with the man above me except for the telfair signing. i would prefer Livingston would would be cheaper and he's a big pg which I like but i deff agree with the dude above me about posey and Smith. Smith can jump high and has long arms and can block shots so we could put him @ the 4 without losing our running game cuz Smith has got speed and the elevation to dominate in our system.

I agree that Telfair would be the wrong signing and livingston would be closer to what we would want, even if he is not the long-term solution. A Monta Ellis-Sebastian Telfair backcourt would average 6'1.5 and 176 lbs. We wouldn't be able to stop any of the big guards in the west.

Livingston would be a good complement to ellis because of his size, ballhandling, and passing skills. No one knows how well he can come back from his terrible and unfortunate injury, but he does not have to be the elite athlete that he was to be an effective point guard.

Posey and Smith would be good additions, but we still don't have any low-post, on the ball defenders. Brandon Wright and Smith seem more like off the ball shotblockers rather than 1 on 1 defenders who can clamp down on the likes of duncan, bynam, kaman, brand, boozer, etc.

I've seen some posts around about bringing in Raymond Felton. What are the chances we could bring him in?

lastsaint74
07-02-2008, 01:25 PM
Trade both Jackson and Harrington and future picks for Yao Ming. Sign Livingston and hopefully Josh Smith.

Livingston
Ellis
Josh Smith
Biedrins
Yao

Bench
Azubuike
Belinelli
Hendrix
Randolph
Wright

lastsaint74
07-02-2008, 01:28 PM
We could possibly get Kidd for one year. His contract expires. Monta would learn alot from this future Hall of Famer. We need to get rid of Jackson and Harrington.

garlicboy
07-02-2008, 01:30 PM
Yao Ming is going NO WHERE!!! And we have Biedrins.

1.) Resign Monta, Biedrins and Azubuike
2.) Sign Shaun Livingston
3.) Sign as many Undrafted Free Agents as possible to our summer league roster in the hopes we find a future role player/specialist.
4.) Scour the NBDL for some possible bench/role players in the future(I like Desmon Farmer, loved his game and intensity when he played on USC).

Tmac416
07-02-2008, 03:10 PM
Wirght is breaking out next year. David thorpe, espn.com analyis and director pro perosnal at the IMG basketball academey. He hated wright eh first half of teh seaosn and then he said he saw him in person agian in february and he looked completly difrent. He has been giving upsates all eyar on him and other rookies.
Eric (Saratoga, CA): Two Golden State questions for you: 1.) Tell us where you think Anthony Randolph fits in the grand scheme of things for the Warriors especially since he appears to be a Wright clone. 2.) Give us your best "Out-of-left-field" move(s) for the Warriors to fill the void Baron Davis left.

David Thorpe: Randolph better show up ready, because when I last saw Wright he looked terrific. Not sure about the Baron issue.

gswmentality
07-02-2008, 04:41 PM
it would be nice to land josh smith and add him to our power forward position but from what i've heard, he's more of a 3 then a 4. if that was the case we;ll beable to work out wright at the 4 and rotate smith to the 4 as well. with the scenario the warriors would be bigger and can have combo guards/forwards taht can create matchup problems with many teams. monta can still run the point during games like AI but we can also have a solid pg that can create and pass first before shooting like livingston. but i worry livingston wouldnt be able to come out of his injury and i don tthink he'd be worth 12 million over couple of years or whatever they were planning to offer him. we do need to add couple of role players and i wouldnt be suprised if the warriors front office came out and added a couple of nice role players to use in our lineup. our line up isn't so screwd up as much as everyone thought becasue of barons departure. it hurts to lose him as much as it helps us (capwise) gain some quality players.

garlicboy
07-02-2008, 05:35 PM
it would be nice to land josh smith and add him to our power forward position but from what i've heard, he's more of a 3 then a 4. if that was the case we;ll beable to work out wright at the 4 and rotate smith to the 4 as well. with the scenario the warriors would be bigger and can have combo guards/forwards taht can create matchup problems with many teams. monta can still run the point during games like AI but we can also have a solid pg that can create and pass first before shooting like livingston. but i worry livingston wouldnt be able to come out of his injury and i don tthink he'd be worth 12 million over couple of years or whatever they were planning to offer him. we do need to add couple of role players and i wouldnt be suprised if the warriors front office came out and added a couple of nice role players to use in our lineup. our line up isn't so screwd up as much as everyone thought becasue of barons departure. it hurts to lose him as much as it helps us (capwise) gain some quality players.

Anthony Randolph will be Josh Smith like in 3 years. Randolph will be a 3 who can block shots, rebound, etc. I do think Randolph will be the better ball handler and passer.

If Randolph has the intensity and work ethic, look out. I mean he's eerily similar to KG, huge comparison, but similar body types, and Randolph is supposedly still growing.

Did you know, the guy is still only 18 years old!!! Apparently he skipped a grade. He will however be turning 19 in a couple of weeks.

Tmac416
07-02-2008, 05:58 PM
i know that last part through my off two.gboy you should really apply your patenence of wright. i think you may miss the beging of a really good player

Kings Faithful
07-02-2008, 06:01 PM
I feel bad for you guys, you sucked for a long time, then you finally rise to a legit contender and scoring madmen in the league for like 2 years. Now Davis screws you guys and puts you basically back where you were. Ive i was the Warriors i would seriously try to hold it out until 2010. You guys have the money to sign a big name, and a lot of players wouldn't mind playin bay-area ball. Perhaps you can pick up another star in a trade along the way. In case all that fails it still isnt to late to hop on the Kings train :rolleyes: