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Acekicker123
06-30-2008, 09:14 PM
Pretty simple thread. The Sixers are rumored to be interested in Calderon, and that ended up sparking a bit of a debate between Raps and Sixers fans.

So we'll let the general NBA fan decide it. Who would you rather have as your starting point guard? Jose Calderon or Andre Miller?

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jose_calderon/career_stats.html

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/andre_miller/career_stats.html

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:15 PM
Wow acekicker you are pathetic.

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:16 PM
ANYWAYS Miller, obviously.

Acekicker123
06-30-2008, 09:17 PM
Wow acekicker you are pathetic.

Thank you for your contribution.

Acekicker123
06-30-2008, 09:18 PM
ANYWAYS Miller, obviously.

Guess we'll let the masses decide.

Iodine
06-30-2008, 09:18 PM
Miller is gawd

_Sn1P3r_
06-30-2008, 09:18 PM
I'd take Calderon

marvILLous
06-30-2008, 09:19 PM
Calderon

T.O-Fan
06-30-2008, 09:20 PM
i promise those of u who chose miller will change ur mind after this season ends cuz im a raptors fans and i know better

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:21 PM
Okay and I promise you who choose miller will change your mind after this season because im a sixers fan and I know better. Lol?

Iodine
06-30-2008, 09:22 PM
i promise those of u who chose miller will change ur mind after this season ends cuz im a raptors fans and i know better
LMFAO

right your a raptors fan and being a raptors fan you must know everything

Well I am a sixer fan so I must know better

tonyd3b54
06-30-2008, 09:23 PM
calderon... just as good of a passer but better shooter especially from 3...

Iodine
06-30-2008, 09:24 PM
calderon... just as good of a passer but better shooter especially from 3...

But miller is easily the better defender

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:24 PM
There are too many raptor fans on Psd! Lol.

Bob_at_york
06-30-2008, 09:25 PM
Wow acekicker you are pathetic.

watch the insults man.

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:25 PM
Yeah Iodine is right. A lot of people tend to forget that defense is more important than offense.

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:26 PM
watch the insults man.

I am, He was saying the same stuff in the sixers forum, nobody was giving him any support, so he came over to the nba forum just so he could be "right".

AgentViet
06-30-2008, 09:29 PM
Calderon. Now that Ford is gone, he should put up 15 PPG and 10 PPG no problem. He's a great character guy and an awesome shooter. His defense isn't terrible, but Andre Miller's defense isn't that great either.

daleja424
06-30-2008, 09:30 PM
Calderon is good for building but he still has a lot to prove. If you want to win games now you have to take the vet who you know will score some points and rack up a bunch of assists. Id rather have Miller if I want to win...

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:30 PM
Calderon. Now that Ford is gone, he should put up 15 PPG and 10 PPG no problem. He's a great character guy and an awesome shooter. His defense isn't terrible, but Andre Miller's defense isn't that great either.

What nba do you watch. He is easily one of the top 5 defensive pg's in the league.

Acekicker123
06-30-2008, 09:31 PM
What nba do you watch. He is easily one of the top 5 defensive pg's in the league.

Agreed. Has excellent size, mobility, and racks up a ton of steals every year.

One of the most underrated defenders in the league.

Bob_at_york
06-30-2008, 09:32 PM
I am, He was saying the same stuff in the sixers forum, nobody was giving him any support, so he came over to the nba forum just so he could be "right".

I know what he did. He wanted to try and get an bias view so he came to the NBA forum. The sad part is that I think it is mainly 76er and Raptors fans voting so the bias still exists.

Acekicker123
06-30-2008, 09:33 PM
I know what he did. He wanted to try and get an un-bias view so he came to the NBA forum. The sad part is that I think it is mainly 76er and Raptors fans voting so the bias still exists.

Let's just try to keep this from getting out of hand. Miller and Calderon are both very good PG's but if this turns into a pissing contest, we should probably close it down.

Scheck
06-30-2008, 09:34 PM
Calderon IMO

Bob_at_york
06-30-2008, 09:35 PM
Let's just try to keep this from getting out of hand. Miller and Calderon are both very good PG's but if this turns into a pissing contest, we should probably close it down.

you actually expected something other than a pissing contest?

Acekicker123
06-30-2008, 09:37 PM
you actually expected something other than a pissing contest?

Yes. I'm new to PSD, so I didn't really know things worked this way...

Iodine
06-30-2008, 09:38 PM
you actually expected something other than a pissing contest?
He must be new to PSD

Acekicker123
06-30-2008, 09:38 PM
He must be new to PSD

lol same time. But yeah I am. Sigh.

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:39 PM
Yeah really, we were getting pissed because you started saying stuff about how miller isn't as good as calderon in the sixers forum.... and then you have the nerve to try to "redeem" yourself by getting raptor fans to vote in you defense. :pity:

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:40 PM
lol same time. But yeah I am. Sigh.

And you don't want this to turn into a pissy contest?

Acekicker123
06-30-2008, 09:43 PM
And you don't want this to turn into a pissy contest?

No. I was actually honestly looking to learn something new. In fact, I suggested some Andre Miller trade proposals in the Raptors forum, because he's a solid PG, and only went to the Sixers forum to see what you guys had suggested.

Obviously when I saw the Miller/Calderon comparisons, I decided to provide my two cents, which was hardly a flame-off, because I tried to back everything I said with stats.

You guys made some excellent points too, so it's not like I'm trying to troll or anything.

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:43 PM
Agreed. Has excellent size, mobility, and racks up a ton of steals every year.

One of the most underrated defenders in the league.

Also I hate dissing miller but he is not mobile at all.

Acekicker123
06-30-2008, 09:44 PM
Also I hate dissing miller but he is not mobile at all.

Really? He was killing the Raptors on the fsat break and on loose balls every time we play them.

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:45 PM
No. I was actually honestly looking to learn something new. In fact, I suggested some Andre Miller trade proposals in the Raptors forum, because he's a solid PG, and only went to the Sixers forum to see what you guys had suggested.

Obviously when I saw the Miller/Calderon comparisons, I decided to provide my two cents, which was hardly a flame-off, because I tried to back everything I said with stats.

You guys made some excellent points too, so it's not like I'm trying to troll or anything.

Okay, a rule in philly is never say crap about their players. Because 10 to 1, you'll get ripped to shreds.

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:46 PM
Really? He was killing the Raptors on the fsat break and on loose balls every time we play them.

Yeah he really isn't.

Acekicker123
06-30-2008, 09:47 PM
Okay, a rule in philly is never say crap about their players. Because 10 to 1, you'll get ripped to shreds.

Yeah no kidding...

I think I'll just stick to reading instead of posting on PSD from now on.

BADizzleBoY
06-30-2008, 09:51 PM
ok.

sanfranfan1210
07-01-2008, 11:17 PM
Calderon

LakerzDQ
07-02-2008, 08:12 AM
miller can't shoot at all. that's his biggest weakness.

Calderon is very efficient on the offensive end. He's a great shooter, a great passer, great at protecting the ball. He might not be star material, but he's a good starting pg.

Mile High Champ
07-02-2008, 10:46 AM
miller can't shoot at all. that's his biggest weakness.

Calderon is very efficient on the offensive end. He's a great shooter, a great passer, great at protecting the ball. He might not be star material, but he's a good starting pg.

good points but I see him as an allstar in the future. His b-ball IQ is through the roof.

lovingTO
07-03-2008, 12:31 AM
Calderon is a really unique talent...I'd have to take him over miller. No disrespect to the vet though.

Bob_at_york
07-03-2008, 10:15 AM
Calderon is a really unique talent...I'd have to take him over miller. No disrespect to the vet though.

interesting. I remember when miller came into the league I thought he was a unique talent.