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BRAVE KID
06-29-2008, 09:35 AM
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Philadelphia Phillies (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=phi) @ Atlanta Braves (http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=atl)


Tuesday, July 1 Turner Field | 7:00 PM ET


Kyle Kendrick, RHP (http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=452718) (7-3, 4.59) Phillies (44-38)


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Charlie Morton, RHP (http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=450203)(1-1, 4.24) Braves (40-42)


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Scouting Report:


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Phillies: The 23-year-old turned in the longest and best start of his career against Oakland on June 25, throwing eight shutout innings, walking one and striking out four. The win moved Kendrick into a three-way tie with Jamie Moyer and Cole Hamels for the team lead. He's started twice against the Braves in 2008, and pitched well in both outings, allowing a combined five earned runs over 11 1/3 innings. This year, the Phillies are 12-4 in Kendrick's starts -- the best record among Phillies starters.


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Braves: Morton has given the Braves three solid outings to start his Major League career, yet the 24-year-old right-hander now has two losses. He was dealt another tough-luck loss on Tuesday night, when he allowed four runs -- two earned -- on six hits in six innings against the Brewers. He has two quality starts in three outings, but the Braves haven't been able to manufacture runs until he is out of the ballgame. While Morton has been in the game, the Braves have scored just two runs in his past two starts, a span of 12 innings. Morton will get a taste of a division rivalry when he faces the Phillies for the first time in his career.





Wednesday, July 2 Turner Field | 7:00 PM ET



Adam Eaton, RHP (http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=284566) (2-6, 4.86) Phillies (44-38)



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Jorge Campillo, RHP (http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=435658) (3-2, 2.54) Braves (40-42)


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Scouting Report:


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Phillies: The right-hander has given up three or fewer runs in 12 of his 16 outings this season, and the Phillies are 7-9 overall when he starts. His June 26 performance was another example of this trend. Unfortunately, two of the three runs he allowed came in the first inning, and Oakland starter Rich Harden sailed from there. Eaton has made one other start against the Braves this season, and gave up three runs in six innings.


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Braves: Campillo has become more than just a pleasant surprise for the Braves -- he's a bona fide starter with an entire arsenal of pitches. The 29-year-old right-hander tossed seven strong innings Wednesday against the Brewers, allowing two runs on four hits and picking up his first home win of the season. After allowing two run-scoring doubles, Campillo retired the next 12 batters he faced. He said his start June 15 against the Angels was better -- two runs in a complete-game effort -- but he was equally dominant against the Brewers. Campillo got a no-decision against the Phillies on June 8, when he allowed three runs on seven hits in 5 1/3 innings. He also allowed six hits in two relief appearances against the Phillies, which totaled 3 1/3 innings.





Thursday, July 3 Turner Field | 7:00 PM ET


Brett Myers, RHP (http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=408206) (3-9, 5.84) Phillies (44-38)


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Jair Jurrjens, RHP (http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=457453) (8-3, 2.94) Braves (40-42)


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Phillies: As Myers continue to struggle, his status in the starting rotation becomes more tenuous. He lasted a career-low two-plus innings in his previous outing, and angered his manager when he couldn't protect a 5-1 lead to Texas. Given that lead in the top of the second, he began the third by allowing a double, two singles and two walks. A good start is imperative for his confidence.



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Braves: Jurrjens limited the Blue Jays to three hits in eight strong innings, and has not allowed an earned run in his last 23 2/3 innings. The three hits off Jurrjens on Friday were singles. The 22-year-old right-hander has not lost since May 12, and he has lowered his ERA to 2.94. He has pitched at least six innings in each of his past four starts. Jurrjens will be making his first career start against the Phillies. He is 5-0 with a 2.49 ERA in eight home starts this season.

BRAVE KID
06-29-2008, 09:38 AM
all I got to say is we better not get swept this time, and you can't get a better chance to gain ground than this. It is up to us whether we take care of buisness or let them take it.

nps6724
06-29-2008, 10:30 AM
Good news: No Moyer, No Hamels, and we get Myers. So that should be 1 guaranteed win. But he also face Kendrick who we haven't hit. It'd be great to take 2 of 3 since we're at home. And you have to take advantage when you don't face Hamels.

jmtapia
06-29-2008, 01:48 PM
i thinking 2 out of 3....of course thats if we have out consistent bats out there.

Saltyfan
06-29-2008, 04:52 PM
Hopefully our offense shows up and we produce big time, and start a huge run. That would be a dream come true.

RandyRocks77
06-29-2008, 04:59 PM
WOW we need to take no less than 2 out of 3... all Rookies SP are Starting!!

Saltyfan
06-29-2008, 05:05 PM
WOW we need to take no less than 2 out of 3... all Rookies SP are Starting!!

Yea well when 4/5th's of your SP is rookies that will happen. That being said, its a dang good starting rotation. No one can deny that.

nps6724
06-29-2008, 05:06 PM
No Hudson = we have a really good chance to win

Saltyfan
06-29-2008, 05:09 PM
Well Hudson had his bad start so now its time for his good one.

BRAVE KID
06-29-2008, 05:46 PM
No Hudson = we have a really good chance to winboy ain't that the truth. even campillo who I don't like facing the phillies has a good shot putting up a better performance against the phils than hudson.

BATS BATS BATS BATS BATS, WE NEED TO SCORE!!!!!. kotsay is coming back so is esco, CJ better be back if not then infante better be back, blanco better be leading off with esco at second and KJ in the bottom of the order. lets do it.

jmtapia
06-29-2008, 05:51 PM
id much rather have hudson out there against the Phillies then Campillo....

Saltyfan
06-29-2008, 05:58 PM
I have loved Blanco leading off. Then Yunel. Got a chance to to set the table well. now if we ccan get Chip back. We need, NEED his bat.

BRAVE KID
06-29-2008, 06:01 PM
id much rather have hudson out there against the Phillies then Campillo....when I first look at it I would too. BUT knowing the inconsisentcy of hudson, we don't know what we are going to get from him with campy we at least know what we are going to get. I still don't like campy going against the phils but he is more consisent than hudson

jmtapia
06-29-2008, 06:04 PM
^^Ill take my chance.

BRAVE KID
06-29-2008, 06:11 PM
I have loved Blanco leading off. Then Yunel. Got a chance to to set the table well. now if we ccan get Chip back. We need, NEED his bat.we aren't going to get his bat. after reading what was on him at AJC he is not even close.

BRAVE KID
06-29-2008, 06:14 PM
^^Ill take my chance.very well then, don't be surprised if you were to be disappointed. b/c he has done that this season.

Saltyfan
06-29-2008, 07:45 PM
But when he is on. He is dominant. But honestly right now our ace is JJ. I am just hoping our SP holds off. See no reason why they shouldn't though. JoJo and JJ are going to be good for many years to come. I wish JoJo record was better. He doesn't deserve to get these losses.

nps6724
06-29-2008, 07:48 PM
But when he is on. He is dominant.

That's the problem. WHEN he's on. When he's off, we've lost before the 1st inning is over. Most aces, when they're off they still give you 6 or 7 innings and 3-4 runs. Huddy is going 3 or 4 and giving up 5, 6, and 7 when he's off.

Saltyfan
06-29-2008, 07:53 PM
I can tell you right now. Hudson is about to make a run-especially now there is no more Interleague Play. Hudson will preform. We all know that.

nps6724
06-29-2008, 07:55 PM
I can tell you right now. Hudson is about to make a run-especially now there is no more Interleague Play. Hudson will preform. We all know that.

Someone might want to inform Hudson, then. I'm still waiting for the day all the "They will" statements turn into "They are" statements.

BRAVE KID
06-29-2008, 07:58 PM
I can tell you right now. Hudson is about to make a run-especially now there is no more Interleague Play. Hudson will preform. We all know that.don't use interleague play as a scapegoat he was inconsisent even before that. the fact is hudson is proving to us that he is not a ace, just a very good #2.

Saltyfan
06-29-2008, 08:01 PM
Inconsistant? His era was well below 3. I would agree though he is a very good 2, good #1, but not an ACE. Those are rare.

BRAVE KID
06-29-2008, 08:05 PM
Inconsistant? His era was well below 3. I would agree though he is a very good 2, good #1, but not an ACE. Those are rare.inconsisent having the title of an "ace." If he wasn't our ace I wouldn't think that most of us would be complaining that much but as I said he is suppose to be our ace.

nps6724
06-29-2008, 08:05 PM
Inconsistant? His era was well below 3.

Yes. 6 starts out of 18 he gave up 4+ runs and in 5 of those he went fewer than 6 innings. This tells us he gave up a lot of runs early. His ERA, BTW, was not "well below 3", it was 2.96 before his last start and it went up to 3.31. The lowest it's been since April is 2.76. The fact his ERA has been so low is due to the inconsistency.

Saltyfan
06-29-2008, 08:08 PM
So in 2/3rd's of his starts he gave up 3 or less. So 66% of the time he is Dominant. Granted thats not ACE material but that is still DANG GOOD!!! What would be ACE material though? Not trying to stir nothing up just curious. I believe Hudson is good but not ACE, Just curious what an ace's percentage would look like.

lavell12
06-29-2008, 08:19 PM
i bet cox goes with campillo, jurrjens, and hudson with the day off on monday.

nps6724
06-29-2008, 08:20 PM
So in 2/3rd's of his starts he gave up 3 or less. So 66% of the time he is Dominant. Granted thats not ACE material but that is still DANG GOOD!!! What would be ACE material though? Not trying to stir nothing up just curious. I believe Hudson is good but not ACE, Just curious what an ace's percentage would look like.

Aces don't regularly have short outings giving up tons of runs, period. Hell, #2's don't regularly have short outings giving up a ton of runs. You don't see Webb going 3 innings with 5 runs, do you? And you especially don't see him do it 6 times in 18 starts. Here's the kicker: JJ, Jo-Jo, and Campillo all have better percentages than that. And Jo-Jo and JJ (JJ especially) have enough starts this year to make the comparison. And when those 3 have gotten beat up, they still go 6+ while Tim doesn't. Tim is excellent at times and terrible at others. And when he's at the top of your staff, it's a sign of trouble IMO. You never know which Tim will show up, which is the same problem we had last year and is why we went out and got Glavine. We didn't expect "Cy Young" Glavine, we expected 5-6 innings, 3-4 runs every time out: consistency. Tim doesn't have it.

Saltyfan
06-29-2008, 08:24 PM
I would agree to that. Still rather have Hudson that alot of other pitchers. I still believe he will go on a run much like last year.

nps6724
06-29-2008, 08:25 PM
I like Hudson too, but for the amount of money he's paid and him supposedly our ace, he frustrates more than anyone because you KNOW he's better than that but he continues to struggle. Kind of like Francoeur, except Jeff has far fewer successes than Tim.

Saltyfan
06-29-2008, 08:28 PM
^^I am just hopeing Frenchy finds his way. He is batting in the .230's. Huddy will regain form. I would agree by the way lately Hudson has been bad. But again I think he will end the year with very respectable numbers.

Saltyfan
06-29-2008, 09:24 PM
Blanco
Yunel
KJ
Tex
McCann
Kotsay
French
DOES IT MATTER=out-Bring up Thorman let him play third.

nps6724
06-29-2008, 09:25 PM
Here's my lineup:

Out
Out
Out
Walk
Double Play
Out
Out
Out
Out

Saltyfan
06-29-2008, 09:34 PM
^^Hilarious. But about true. You should add a walk than a Pick off or caught stealing.

BRAVE KID
06-29-2008, 09:34 PM
of course hudson is going to end up at the end of the year with respectable numbers, hudson doesn't suck at all just not an ace. that's all I will say, now getting back to the thread. since CJ is not going to be in the lineup for this series or the next or the next, throw out your lineups.

blanco
esco
KJ
tex
b-mac
kotsay
franky
prado

yea I am taking the gamble with prado in there, I think they will dL infante and be forced to bring him up, and immediately putting him in the lineup (I think this is more of a wish for me but hell he is better than gotay).

BRAVE KID
06-29-2008, 10:01 PM
Braves host Phillies in crucial matchup
Atlanta (40-43) vs. Philadelphia (44-38), Tuesday, 7 p.m. ET

The pesky Braves, who despite nagging injuries and occasional club-wide struggles have hovered near the top of the National League East, have three opportunities to inch closer to the division lead.
Atlanta is in fourth place and 4 1/2 games back of NL East-leading Philadelphia, but the Braves expect some lineup reinforcements for this pivotal three-game set. They played the entire weekend series against the Blue Jays with a short bench and lost two of three game to Toronto.

Center fielder Mark Kotsay will be activated from the 15-day disabled list before Tuesday's series opener, and that can only give the Braves confidence as they look to erase a division deficit that has been present since April.

"We're right in the thick of things," catcher Brian McCann said. "Obviously we're not playing the way we want to be playing. But we're pitching awesome. That's the encouraging part. Our pitching staff is giving us a chance to win almost every night. We're just not doing the little things to help them."

Charlie Morton will start the series opener for the Braves, who were swept by the Phillies at Turner Field on June 6-8. Philadelphia will send right-hander Kyle Kendrick to the mound.

Morton lost on Tuesday against the Brewers despite allowing two earned runs in six innings. In three starts this season, Morton has given up eight earned runs in 17 innings.

Kendrick has won six of his past seven starts, including a start on Wednesday in which he pitched eight scoreless innings against the A's. The Phillies are 12-4 in games he's started and have been giving him 6.48 runs of support per start.

Kendrick is 1-0 with a 3.97 ERA in two starts against the Braves this season. He got a no-decision on June 7 after allowing two runs on four hits in 5 1/3 innings.

"It doesn't matter who we are playing right now, we just have to start winning," first baseman Mark Teixeira said. "Every game is important, and when you can make up ground in your division, you have to take advantage."


Pitching matchup
ATL: RHP Charlie Morton (1-1, 4.24 ERA)
Although Morton only has one win, he has given the Braves three solid outings to start his Major League career. He was dealt another tough-luck loss on Tuesday night, when he allowed four runs -- two earned -- on six hits in six innings against the Brewers. He has two quality starts in three outings, but the Braves have scored just two runs while he's been in the game during his past two starts, a span of 12 innings.

PHI: RHP Kyle Kendrick (7-3, 4.59 ERA)
Kendrick turned in the longest and best start of his career against Oakland on Wednesday, throwing eight shutout innings, walking one and striking out four. The win moved the 23-year-old into a three-way tie with Jamie Moyer and Cole Hamels for the team lead. He's started twice against the Braves in 2008 and pitched decently in both outings, allowing a combined five earned runs over 11 1/3 innings. This year, the Phillies are 12-4 in Kendrick's starts -- the best record among Phillies starters.

Tidbits
Because reliever Rafael Soriano wasn't going to be able to test his injured right elbow with any side sessions, the Braves permitted him to travel to his native Dominican Republic to tend to personal matters this past weekend. He's expected to be back in Atlanta on Tuesday. ... The first two homers Tim Hudson surrendered to right-handed hitters this year came in consecutive innings on Saturday. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Hudson has allowed a homer to a right-handed battter once every 65.5 plate appearances. That is the lowest rate for an active pitcher. Greg Maddux ranks second, having allowed a homer to a right-hander once in every 57.7 plate appearances. ... The Braves are now 2-10 in games missed by Chipper Jones this season. braves.com

two struggling teams in a showdown, for god sakes don't give them ANY damn mometum, that is the last thing we need.

Fred
06-30-2008, 12:24 PM
fyi....it is still being tossed around that Myers is not going to start on Thursday....they may move Hamels up a game since he has sufficient rest....the Phils coaches are talking about options for Myers (rest, bring someone up, etc - they don;'t want to move him teo the 'pen as of now).....


...is Chipper going on the DL?

BRAVE KID
06-30-2008, 01:26 PM
^most likely, so you would be lucked out. goodie we get to face hamels just what we need.

BRAVE KID
06-30-2008, 02:20 PM
so i guess we are going to be seeing opponet fans peaking in here being invisible, right thattomguy?

BRAVE KID
06-30-2008, 03:08 PM
Braves hope to seize opportunity vs. Phillies



Just 3 1/2 weeks after being embarrassed by the Phillies in a sweep at Turner Field, the Braves get another crack at the National League East leaders in a home series that starts Tuesday.

Ready or not, injuries be damned, the Braves know they better take advantage of the opportunity.




"We've got to win the series, plain and simple," said Chipper Jones, who believes that's true even if he's placed on the 15-day disabled list before the series, as expected. "Every time we get them head-to-head, it's a must that we make up ground."

Jones' reinjured right quadriceps hasn't healed as hoped, and the major league hitting leader (.394) conceded there was a "distinct" possibility he would have to go on the DL Tuesday.

The Braves plan to activate Mark Kotsay from the DL for the Phillies series, and will also consider activating infielder Martin Prado if Omar Infante's hamstring hasn't improved.

Kotsay missed a month with a bulging disc in his lower back, and Prado's been out two months with a partially torn thumb ligament.

On Sunday, Jones said veterans "have to step up and lead this ballclub," which has a disturbing trend of close losses. Sunday's 1-0 defeat at Toronto dropped them to a woeful 4-20 in one-run games.

There couldn't be a better time to get a handle on that perplexing situation than a series against the slumping Phillies, who've lost nine of their past 11 games and hit .191 in that period.

Despite that recent slide, the Phillies have a four-game lead over the muddling fourth-place Braves, with the second-place Marlins and the Mets standing between Atlanta and Philadelphia.

Given the Braves' litany of injuries, several Atlanta players said their team knows it's fortunate to be so close to the division lead with 79 games to play. They feel as if they've had a reprieve.

Now they must take advantage of it.

"It is amazing, really," second baseman Kelly Johnson said. "Now it seems like the Phillies are having a tough time. And the Mets have a pretty tough schedule, playing the Yankees a lot."

No one could be more relieved over the Phillies' slump than Johnson. It was his dropped popup with two out in the ninth inning of the June 6 series opener against them that let in the tying run. The Phillies went on to win 4-3 in 10 innings.

That set the tone for a long weekend and a six-game Braves losing streak that dropped them to 7 1/2 games out of first place.

They are 8-8 since ending that skid, but the Braves (40-43) know that treading water won't lift them past division leaders.

This isn't where they expected to be, in fourth place with a sub-.500 record just past the halfway point. However, given all that's transpired, the Braves know things could be much worse.

Their disabled list is littered with three-fifths of the opening day rotation (John Smoltz, Tom Glavine, Mike Hampton), plus their closer (Rafael Soriano) and top setup man (Peter Moylan)

Their best hitter now appears headed to the DL. The Braves are 2-10 in games Jones has missed.

They do, however, have reasons for hope. They're getting back Kotsay, who hit .325 with 18 RBIs in his last 33 games before going to the DL and should help a punchless outfield.

They've got Mark Teixeira in RBI-a-game mode, after a lackluster start. Teixeira is 9-for-21 with six homers and 11 RBIs in his past seven games and has 10 homers and 26 RBIs since May 31.

Rookie outfielder Gregor Blanco has 10 hits in his past four games and a .302 average and .375 OBP in 43 at-bats as a leadoff man.

Most importantly, the Braves have gotten strong starting pitching from journeyman Jorge Campillo and youngsters Jair Jurrjens, Jo-Jo Reyes and callup Charlie Morton, who've joined veteran Tim Hudson to help craft a league-leading 3.85 starters' ERA for Atlanta.

Jurrjens (8-3, 2.94 ERA) is an All-Star candidate with the fifth-best ERA among National League starters and the most wins and innings among major league rookies.

"You can't say enough about Jorge, Jair Jurrjens, and Jo-Jo," Johnson said. "If you could narrow it down to one reason we're [four games] out with all the injuries, it would have to be J.J."AJC

beat the **** out of them, just ****in destroy them.

ugafan
06-30-2008, 04:04 PM
Can somebody give me a list of our top 5 prospects?

jmtapia
06-30-2008, 05:50 PM
Can somebody give me a list of our top 5 prospects?

http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2007/11/16/15556/735

Although this list will look a lot different at years end.

BRAVE KID
06-30-2008, 06:48 PM
Can somebody give me a list of our top 5 prospects?


2008 Top Prospects

1 Jordan Schafer, OF
2 Brandon Jones, OF
3 Jason Heyward, OF
4 Jair Jurrjens, RHP
5 Cole Rohrbough, LHP
6 Brent Lillibridge, SS
7 Gorkys Hernandez, OF
8 Tommy Hanson, RHP
9 Cody Johnson, OF
11 Jeff Locke, LHP
12 Kris Medlen, RHP
13 Kala Ka'aihue, 1B
14 Jamie Richmond, RHP
15 Steve Evarts, LHP
16 Eric Campbell, 3B
18 Manny Acosta, RHP
19 Jose Ortegano, LHP
20 Brandon Hicks, SS

22 Chad Rodgers, LHP
23 Tyler Flowers, C/1B
24 Eric Cordier, RHP

this was a list from talking chop, some numbers are skipped b/c the players are no longer there

BRAVE KID
06-30-2008, 06:54 PM
also here (http://mvn.com/mlb-braves/top-prospects/) is not only a list but a scouting report from choping change

ugafan
06-30-2008, 08:40 PM
Thanks BK

robdizzle3
06-30-2008, 09:18 PM
This is a good series for us because we beat a good team in the division who is leading or tied for the lead we take games from them we can be two games back depending on what the Fish do and we get momentum going into the next series

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 01:05 AM
seems like everyone knows the actual importance of this series, glad to hear that, now I hope that since they know how important it is they won't let them get embarrased like last time. I am quite intrigued to see the type of lineup we put out there.

phillies1980
07-01-2008, 12:49 PM
hey guys...it's looking more and more like it's going to be Chad Durbin in Myers spot. He's been great out of the pen, but that means nothing. We'll see. I think they want to save Hamels for the Mets series at home.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 01:50 PM
hey guys...it's looking more and more like it's going to be Chad Durbin in Myers spot. He's been great out of the pen, but that means nothing. We'll see. I think they want to save Hamels for the Mets series at home.
to face santana? if so, I would do the same, isn't it a four game series as well?

ugafan
07-01-2008, 02:37 PM
Was anybody else aware that we signed Jason Phillips? I loved the guy when he played against us for the Mets.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 02:54 PM
Was anybody else aware that we signed Jason Phillips? I loved the guy when he played against us for the Mets.nope not until people said we did. not getting much PT at AAA.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 03:43 PM
Gregor Blanco 2 AB's 3 BB's .000 AVG .600 OBP

Yunel Escobar 6 AB's, K, .167 AVG, .333 OBP

Jeff Francoeur 6 AB's, 2 RBI's, 2 K's, .500 AVG, .500 OBP

Kelly Johnson 5 AB's, BB, .400 AVG, .500 OBP

Mark Kotsay 2 AB's, BB, .000 AVG, .333 OBP

Brian McCann 5 AB's, BB, .167 OBP

Mark Teixeira 2 AB's, BB, .000 AVG, .333 OBP

boy it would be nice to have CJ in there he is hitting .750 off of Kendrick, with a HR, 3 RBI, but we don't.

so this is what we got, believe it or not franky can actually hit off the guy, but it seems that esco and b-mac struggle off of him. we just need a full team effort on offense, defense and pitching. the last thing you want to do is give this team momentum, lets prevent that.

GLASSMAN
07-01-2008, 04:14 PM
I'm hoping that this series will help to expose the true heart of this club. We've faced some hard times with injuries and lack of performance all year and this would be a great time to send the message that we're not done. Could be that come September that we can look back at this series as the turning point, hopefully in a positive direction. Just play to win!!

lavell12
07-01-2008, 04:52 PM
Watch out Phillies
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080701&content_id=3041363&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 04:56 PM
Just read that and was about to post it. This is huge for us. Chipper expected to be in the lineup. HUGE

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 04:59 PM
^^^hell Yeah.....:dance::dance:

TomahawkChopper
07-01-2008, 05:01 PM
Watch out Phillies
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080701&content_id=3041363&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

Thats big news right there, Chipper and Yunel both back and Kotsay being activated great news all around.

All though I hope if Chipper is coming back he is truely ready and not rushing it, if your back Chip we want you back for good.

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 05:06 PM
Chip knows the importance of this series. Thats why he is playing
Blanco
Yunel
Chipper
Tex
McCann
Kotsay
KJ
Frenchy. Frenchy has now become our #8 hitter, where he should stay for awhile. Thats how i would have the lineup

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 05:08 PM
LINE UP???????

LF- Blanco
SS- ESCO
3B- Chipper
1B- Tex
C- BMac
RF- Frenchy
CF-Kotsay
2B-KJ
PITCHER

THOUGHTS????

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 05:10 PM
Chip knows the importance of this series. Thats why he is playing
Blanco
Yunel
Chipper
Tex
McCann
Kotsay
KJ
Frenchy. Frenchy has now become our #8 hitter, where he should stay for awhile. Thats how i would have the lineup

3 straight Lefties (BMac, Kotsay, KJ)...:rolleyes:

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 05:10 PM
yea that works. honestly KJ should be higher up. The French needs to go down. We dont need no rally killer. He is the weak point in our lineup.

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 05:11 PM
3 straight Lefties (BMac, Kotsay, KJ)...:rolleyes:

have you seen B-Mac and KJ numbers vs lefties. I thought they were good.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 05:19 PM
have you seen B-Mac and KJ numbers vs lefties. I thought they were good.

Your absolutely right i thought they had a Myers (whom has been demoted to AAA) was going up. My bad. :cheers:

nps6724
07-01-2008, 05:20 PM
For those who want to know, Mac and Kelly have the 2nd and 3rd highest AVG vs. lefties on the team. Only Chipper's is higher and both have .400 SLG vs. lefties. Mac is also 1st in the majors in AVG for left-handed hitters vs. left-handed pitchers (min. 100 PA). Kelly would be 2nd if he had 14 more PA. So it's safe to say these 3 straight lefties isn't bad for us.

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 05:35 PM
It just feels good to know our weakest point in our lineup is Francoeur, and he cant do nothing but go up. It feels good to have our lineup back.

laxman1017
07-01-2008, 05:37 PM
You guys are talking lineups...its says no esco until wednesday

laxman1017
07-01-2008, 05:39 PM
that means

Blanco
Kelly
Chipper
Tex
BMac
Kotsay
Frenchy
Infante??? Is he alright to play???
Pitcher

nps6724
07-01-2008, 05:39 PM
It might be Prado. Wasn't he supposed to be activated today? If not him, I would think Lilli because I think Omar is still out.

laxman1017
07-01-2008, 05:41 PM
is he....I wasn't sure....if it is lilly or prado, they are in the same spot

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 05:42 PM
DANG IT. We our never going to get our lineup back. I would expect. LILLI or Infante, or Prado.

laxman1017
07-01-2008, 05:43 PM
Tomorrow Salty....hopefully one more day. What do you guys say about Chipper sitting out the All-Star game??? You think he should to rest the quad???

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 05:45 PM
DUH!!! The game means nothing. If anything he should PLAY one inning. Nothing else. We NEED him in the worst way to make a run.

laxman1017
07-01-2008, 05:47 PM
Right....I know it means nothing, but he has said that it would be nice for him to play in New York. I hope he goes, and just doesn't play. That also lets another guys get on the roster, like BMac

nps6724
07-01-2008, 06:01 PM
I'd rather Chipper go to the ASG, be a part of the festivities, and not play. It's meaningless and he could have 3 straight days off with zero baseball activity.

laxman1017
07-01-2008, 06:02 PM
Definatley what is best for him....and I'm guessing that is what he should do. I never said he shouldn't take it off....but do you think he will???

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 06:14 PM
I think he will play at least minimally. The fans voted him in so if he can play he will play.

GLASSMAN
07-01-2008, 06:23 PM
Personally I'd rather he not take any chances but he does have a special relationship with the New York fans and probably wants to make at least an appearance. Bottom line, he'll be making that call and that's just fine with me.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 06:52 PM
LINE UP:

Blanco
KJ
Chipper
Tex
BMac
Kotsay
Frenchy
Lilli
Morton

Phillies

Rollins
Victorino
Utley
Howard
Burrell
Jenkings
Feliz
Ruiz
Kendricks

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 06:52 PM
No Esco so that sucks but at least we get Kotsay and Chippers back...And Frenchy hopefully

laxman1017
07-01-2008, 06:54 PM
The lineup looks exactly like we thought....how much longer is infante out??? It is time for Lilli to grow up fast

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 06:56 PM
^^^Lilli needs to show us something....its all potential but we know where that leads.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 06:59 PM
Alright guys about 15 minutes before Game Start.....any score predictions. I think we need to score at least 7 runs to win.

Thoughts??

#16-McCann-#16
07-01-2008, 07:00 PM
Lilli looks like he is 12 years old lol

nps6724
07-01-2008, 07:01 PM
If Lilli can play perfect defense and go 1-for-4, I'll be happy with him. Anything more is gravy.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:02 PM
No K from him would make me happier....

nps6724
07-01-2008, 07:03 PM
No K from him would make me happier....

Baby steps.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:04 PM
^^^ its working for Cody...lol

nps6724
07-01-2008, 07:05 PM
BJ was sent back to AAA. Didn't know that. Hopefully when Prado is back Gotay is kicked to the curb.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:06 PM
^^^for reals....

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:06 PM
Norton should have gotten the boot and we should have kept BJ...

dbroncs-abraves
07-01-2008, 07:06 PM
is this game on TV?

robdizzle3
07-01-2008, 07:07 PM
I see the score being 5-4 us but if Morton can hold down that lineup because they have been struggling also so they may be due

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:08 PM
^^^ Thats a ton asking from a Rookie making his 4th start...lets see what he is all about. This is his first rivalry match up. Must seem like a first start in a sense...

GLASSMAN
07-01-2008, 07:10 PM
is this game on TV?

Peachtree tv out of Atlanta

nps6724
07-01-2008, 07:10 PM
Norton should have gotten the boot and we should have kept BJ...

I'd take Norton over Gotay everyday.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:12 PM
If anyone is watching would it be to much to ask if you can post close calls, maybe, warning track outs or any other things that game cast cant show.

THANKS

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:12 PM
I'd take Norton over Gotay everyday.

When prado comes back....

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:16 PM
nice quick 10 Pitch inning for Morton...lets go bats...

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:20 PM
Great start...lead off walk blanco...

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:23 PM
KJ with sac bunt.. 1 out

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:24 PM
fundamental baseball, nice job KJ, come on CJ

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:25 PM
cJ makes a productive out moving KJ to third.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:26 PM
however nobody can bring blanco in. wasted chance #1

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:28 PM
I am a little dissapointed in esco, cJ with his crippling self puts himself in the lineup but esco can't.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:29 PM
^^Yeah but Esco cant swing, chipper can. Different injuries to different parts.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:30 PM
as scripted, man left on next inning we give up a run. 1-0 phils

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:30 PM
left a hanger up there...

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:33 PM
^^Yeah but Esco cant swing, chipper can. Different injuries to different parts.Cox said CJ was no where near ready, cox expected esco to be back. I know cox doesn't know their bodies but I don't know whatever no point to it.

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 07:34 PM
Morton is going to give up runs. we got to score. No doubt.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:35 PM
Come on Morton you cant walk a .215 BA hitter.........

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:38 PM
Morton is going to give up runs. we got to score. No doubt.oh course he is, but he will still keep us in the game, it is up to the offense to win us this game.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:39 PM
ripped by BMac... kotsay get him over..

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:40 PM
lead-off double from b-mac.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:40 PM
come on Kotsay...1 out

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:41 PM
well first pitch swinging hit it in the outfield but couldn't get him over.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:42 PM
that out looked pretty deep into CF....

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:42 PM
good ord franky made a productive out.

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 07:43 PM
wOW. See frenchy doing good. Well okay.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:46 PM
an again, lilli not gettin the job done. wasted chance #2.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:47 PM
^^^not really a productive out is when you move a runner over to third to make it one out.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:47 PM
that out looked pretty deep into CF....not even close to deep center, we are talkin about franky here.

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 07:48 PM
another wasted oppurtunity. That makes 2

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:48 PM
your watching^^^

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:49 PM
^^^not really a productive out is when you move a runner over to third to make it one out.
I actually gave the idiot some sort of credit, might as well take it

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:51 PM
your watching^^^on gameday since that is the only way I can post, and it was barerly out of the infield dirt.

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 07:52 PM
Wow. 3-0. That sucks.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:53 PM
Come on Morton...HR to Victorino!!!!! are you serious..****

ugafan
07-01-2008, 07:53 PM
Victorino can't even hit a golf ball out, how the hell did he hit a baseball?

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:54 PM
HA forget it. 3-0 phils on that shot from victorino. <the haiwaiin ****er should of known

see the pattern
Wasted chance #1 leads to run for phils
wasted chance #2 leads to runs for phils

Now you ****in see why it is so GOD DAMN FRUSTRATING to watch this damn team.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:55 PM
on gameday since that is the only way I can post, and it was barerly out of the infield dirt.

just looked like a deep grounder onto the CF grass.....IDK

wolfman2
07-01-2008, 07:55 PM
yeah morton is looking awful. All his pitches that are strikes are hanging now.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:56 PM
i dont think we can blame the runs scored ont he offense...those are on Morton. Offense could make it closer but your blaming the wrong people there....

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 07:57 PM
Bennett anyone???

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 07:57 PM
Yea, Well hopeing Morton never preforms like a rookie would be crazy.

Slash
07-01-2008, 07:57 PM
^^^not really a productive out is when you move a runner over to third to make it one out.

A productive out is moving the runner no matter the number of outs.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:59 PM
all right a blow out wonderful.

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 07:59 PM
Well MORTON is WAY OFF>

Slash
07-01-2008, 07:59 PM
This is getting ugly.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 07:59 PM
Yea, Well hopeing Morton never preforms like a rookie would be crazy.true but the timing is just so perfect ain't it?

wolfman2
07-01-2008, 08:00 PM
good he is gone

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 08:01 PM
Freakin 5-0

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:02 PM
A productive out is moving the runner no matter the number of outs.

i would hesitate to call a ground out to move a runner to 3rd to make it 2 outs. The point is that with 1 out a runner can score from 3rd on a FB.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:03 PM
Theres to everyone that wanted to keep him instead of Campillo....

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 08:05 PM
i dont think we can blame the runs scored ont he offense...those are on Morton. Offense could make it closer but your blaming the wrong people there....
of course the offense doesn't deserve any blame, it never does does it? yes, morton pitched horrible but isn't it pecuilar that he starts to pitch bad after we couldn't get him a run in the first? and the same in the second? It is all about momentum. and now what couldn't afford to in this series has happened, we gave them momentum and now we are ****ed.

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 08:05 PM
Can only hope we score and score alot. No hope for us though.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:07 PM
^^^ARE you thinking as you type.....Morton did horrible bc he wasnt ready to face a lineup like the Phills. Get real quit blaming the wrong people....

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 08:07 PM
Theres to everyone that wanted to keep him instead of Campillo....Ha well look who has changed getting on a kid after one bad outing eh? what's next actually getting on franky who deserves every bit of blame.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:08 PM
^^^we should have plenty of chances against Kendricks he seems to be very erratic.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:09 PM
Ha well look who has changed getting on a kid after one bad outing eh? what's next actually getting on franky who deserves every bit of blame.

Frenchy has done a ton more then Morton over his career....

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:10 PM
At least we minimized the damage......good job Carlyle...wow i dont think i ever said that before..

robdizzle3
07-01-2008, 08:10 PM
Somedays you dont have it and this was his day.Some of us have overhyped him to begin with.I remeber in Spring Training he was fighting for one of the last bullpen spots and now he is supposed to be a very important piece to our future?He may be good but I never expected much from him anyways

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:10 PM
^^Plus frenchy grounded out...1 out big deal. While Morton just made it really hard for us to win this game.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:11 PM
Somedays you dont have it and this was his day.Some of us have overhyped him to begin with.I remeber in Spring Training he was fighting for one of the last bullpen spots and now he is supposed to be a very important piece to our future?He may be good but I never expected much from him anyways

true most that hype came from Bobby and then his good outings in AAA. I guess we will see. I have a fine line when it comes to pitchers bc they can really screw up a team.

andrew4343
07-01-2008, 08:16 PM
A comeback tonight could completly change the season! It won't be bad if we lose and manage to win 2 of the nect three. Gotta look at it positively!

GLASSMAN
07-01-2008, 08:18 PM
Good job Buddy. Let start pecking.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:19 PM
^^^lets focus on one game atta time...for the moment i agree a comeback would make a lot of people ease off...

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:21 PM
Nice start...come on Tex and BMac

erenteria11
07-01-2008, 08:23 PM
have u guys noticed we always lose on peachtree?

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:26 PM
Lets go French...your PAST due...

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:26 PM
haha ive heard that before its the "OFFICIAL TBS CURSE"....

ugafan
07-01-2008, 08:27 PM
Runners on, who's up? Frenchy, YES!:eyebrow:

erenteria11
07-01-2008, 08:28 PM
the braves r makin me sick with the way they are going about fundamental baseball.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:28 PM
****

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:28 PM
what fundamentals??

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 08:29 PM
3 wasted oppurtunities. I am out. Cant watch no more.

rarryronds
07-01-2008, 08:29 PM
Francoeur stands up there like a pitcher. He looks like Matt Morris.

Slash
07-01-2008, 08:29 PM
i would hesitate to call a ground out to move a runner to 3rd to make it 2 outs. The point is that with 1 out a runner can score from 3rd on a FB.

Sure, having a runner on third with one out is great, but that doesn't mean moving a runner to second or third with two outs is a bad thing. There are over 13 ways for a runner to score from third than from second. Many managers will also, with one out, depending on the score or if the pitcher is batting, bunt to move a runner into scoring position.

Is it better to have the opportunity for a sac fly? Sure. But moving the runner is always better than a strikeout.

andrew4343
07-01-2008, 08:31 PM
Can we send Frenchy to Richmond and bring up anderson until the break? It would be a huge hit to his ego but he needs to figure some things out and we don't have the bodies to bench him

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:32 PM
FYI, on a brigther note in ROME one of our priced prospects Cody Johnson is getting off a funk as of late. Today he is 2-2 with a HR and BB (yes a BB) and NO K (yes no K!!!!!!!!!!!)

Also Locke is pitching a 1 Hit Shut out.

IDK us that follow our prospects will be very happy. Some might not care my apologize.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:35 PM
Sure, having a runner on third with one out is great, but that doesn't mean moving a runner to second or third with two outs is a bad thing. There are over 13 ways for a runner to score from third than from second. Many managers will also, with one out, depending on the score or if the pitcher is batting, bunt to move a runner into scoring position.

Is it better to have the opportunity for a sac fly? Sure. But moving the runner is always better than a strikeout.

Agreed.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:39 PM
uhhh why isnt Infante in SS.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 08:45 PM
I see the Braves are doing what they've done all year, talk the talk but not walk the walk.

Slash
07-01-2008, 08:47 PM
With the Phillies up to bat, maybe we can grab a fumble or snag an interception. Really, anything we can do to score on defense may turn this game around.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 08:48 PM
With the Phillies up to bat, maybe we can grab a fumble or snag an interception. Really, anything we can do to score on defense may turn this game around.

That's the only way we can score of Kendrick. Another pitcher to add to the growing list of "Mediocre Pitchers We Can't Hit".

ATLBravesfan
07-01-2008, 08:50 PM
That's the only way we can score of Kendrick. Another pitcher to add to the growing list of "Mediocre Pitchers We Can't Hit".

The thing is, we NEVER seem to hit Kendrick. He's only mediocre against everyone else

wolfman2
07-01-2008, 08:51 PM
bobby should take manny out now. He pitched a solid inning, don't push his luck and bring him in another one

nps6724
07-01-2008, 08:52 PM
The thing is, we NEVER seem to hit Kendrick. He's only mediocre against everyone else

That's how we are against EVERY mediocre pitcher. Every guy who has a 4 or 5 ERA gives up MAYBE 2 against the Braves.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 08:52 PM
nice job by our bullpen keeping us in there but our O isnt doing ****

nps6724
07-01-2008, 08:53 PM
Injured Chipper > the rest of our offense combined

nps6724
07-01-2008, 08:55 PM
Tex sure cooled off quickly.

wolfman2
07-01-2008, 08:56 PM
inning over, francouer is up

ATLBravesfan
07-01-2008, 08:57 PM
I think we should take a chance with Schafer and bring him up. I'm usually against bringing up young players too soon, but we've got to do something to put some fire into our offense. I'd rather it be a power bat, but we ain't got that available in our farm

nps6724
07-01-2008, 08:59 PM
4 leadoff men on in 6 innings (2 were doubles), 0-for-11 with RISP tonight. Way to back up all that "We HAVE to win this series!", Braves.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 09:02 PM
Our bullpen always shuts down opposing offenses in these kind of games, but anything close and they blow it.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 09:08 PM
Hey look at that, Acosta breezes through 1 inning, struggles in the 2nd. SHOCKER!

GLASSMAN
07-01-2008, 09:12 PM
Did you see the size of that bullet?

nps6724
07-01-2008, 09:13 PM
Did you see the size of that bullet?

:confused:

GLASSMAN
07-01-2008, 09:15 PM
:confused:

The one Manny just dodged.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 09:19 PM
Holy crap, Frenchy, Lilli, and Norton come through. Single, single, double. 5-2.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 09:20 PM
what you know Frenchy starts a rally...

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 09:21 PM
no outs so we should get at least one more....come on Blanco PRODUCTIVE OUT and move Norton over...

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 09:25 PM
there you go come on KJ....FB

GLASSMAN
07-01-2008, 09:25 PM
atta boy Blanco

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 09:27 PM
pick your pitch Chipper....

andrew4343
07-01-2008, 09:28 PM
would you send KJ here to score for sure on a double, and stay out of double play?

andrew4343
07-01-2008, 09:30 PM
he can walk to second now

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 09:30 PM
come on Tex...dial one up here...

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 09:31 PM
runners stay put with sluggers up there and coming up...

Slash
07-01-2008, 09:32 PM
Damn if the Braves didn't try their best for a DP.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 09:33 PM
**** we had the one opportunity to bring up our slugger with RISP.....

GLASSMAN
07-01-2008, 09:35 PM
Come on Will, hold 'em where they are.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 09:36 PM
Tex and Mac couldn't come through when needed most. Just one game I'd like to see Chip, Tex, and Mac all come through in the clutch.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 09:37 PM
And Ohman walks the leadoff runner and screws up a sac bunt. Scoreless baseball down 5-0, all of a sudden 5-3 and here come the Phils.

andrew4343
07-01-2008, 09:45 PM
This would be so huge!!!!!

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 09:45 PM
great damage control...you know what happens when a team doesnt score with the bases loaded....

TomahawkChopper
07-01-2008, 09:45 PM
tell me that wasnt some SWEET pitching by Ohman to Utley and Howard. I said what the hell you doing walking basesloaded for Utley and Howard but that was impressive!

ATLBravesfan
07-01-2008, 09:46 PM
we ain't used to stranding other teams runners

GLASSMAN
07-01-2008, 09:46 PM
Utley-k Howard -k That's heart! Nice comeback Will.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 09:50 PM
Gotta get some hits. Kotsay and Frenchy can't get anything going.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 09:50 PM
And Lilli grounds out. It'll be up to 9-1-2 in the 9th.

GLASSMAN
07-01-2008, 09:52 PM
Let's hold 'em again. We got the top of the order due up. Maybe take a page out of the Marlins book.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 09:53 PM
Let's hold 'em again. We got the top of the order due up. Maybe take a page out of the Marlins book.

Hit 17 HR in 1 inning to win a game?

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 09:56 PM
great damage control...you know what happens when a team doesnt score with the bases loaded....not with us bro. against us yes but for us not a chance.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 09:57 PM
Can McCann just stop throwing down to 2nd? Just let them steal the base.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 09:58 PM
McCann's error makes it 6-3. Stupid mistakes are what we do best.

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 09:59 PM
Calling it now. If chipper comes up with the oppurtunity to put us ahead. He WILL SUCCEED!!!

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 09:59 PM
And Lilli grounds out. It'll be up to 9-1-2 in the 9th.gotay, blanco and KJ vs lidge lord help us

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 10:00 PM
Sucks he wont get the oppurtunity. Gosh WHY mCCANN

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 10:01 PM
Braves have hit lidge good in the past though. He has blown more than one save against us. 3 runs is an easy save though.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 10:01 PM
boyer in the 9th...that is all.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 10:02 PM
boyer in the 9th...that is all.

Same problem the last time he pitched in the 9th vs. Philly: an error costs him a scoreless inning.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 10:02 PM
Braves have hit lidge good in the past though. He has blown more than one save against us. 3 runs is an easy save though.
I wouldn't be so sure it is going to be 3 runs...

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 10:03 PM
God Boyer. COME ON

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 10:04 PM
Same problem the last time he pitched in the 9th vs. Philly: an error costs him a scoreless inning.yep was just about to say that too.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 10:05 PM
8-3 is the difference right now. Twice we had leadoff doubles and neither scored or were moved to 3rd with no outs. McCann's error leads to a gift run in the 9th and leads to a huge inning. If we knew how to make productive outs and play fundamental baseball, it's 5-5 instead of 8-3. Wasted opportunities bite us in the *** every single time, but never seem to hurt opposing teams. Philly loaded the bases in the 7th and 8th and didn't score, yet it didn't hurt them one bit.

Saltyfan
07-01-2008, 10:05 PM
***************** BOYER. I hate him in the ninth. WHY. Bobby you should know NO Boyer and NO Acosta in the freaking ninth. So much for a flippen comeback. This is so much garbage. Why even route for the Braves.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 10:05 PM
yep boyer in the 9th alright..with the error.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 10:09 PM
Philly's 1-5 hitters: 10-for-23, 2 HR, 6 RBI, 1 BB, 5 RS, each had 2 hits
Atlanta's 1-5 hitters: 4-for-15, 2 2B, 1 RBI, 4 BB, 0 RS, only 1 guy with more than 1 hit

nps6724
07-01-2008, 10:12 PM
All we need is Gotay, Blanco, Kelly, Chipper, Tex, and McCann to score this inning and we win. Piece of cake, right?

Slash
07-01-2008, 10:14 PM
6 homers in a row?

nps6724
07-01-2008, 10:15 PM
6 homers in a row?

The Marlins and Phils seem to be able to hit HR at will. Why not us? Besides the fact we have exactly 2.5 power hitters.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 10:19 PM
I think we are the worst team in the majors at just "showing up" to play. We play some of the laziest, most apathetic, "just happy to be in the bigs and so what if we lose again" baseball I've seen in my 15 years of watching pro baseball.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 10:20 PM
so who is ready to be swept again?

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 10:23 PM
It is amazing even if the pitching does a bad job today the offense (and the defense, just at the right times) still finds a way to become the reason why we lose. bases loaded 1 out and you got tex and b-mac coming up in a 5-2 game, what do they both do? swing at the first damn pitch and ground out. 5 games back about to be 7.

jmtapia
07-01-2008, 10:32 PM
so who is ready to be swept again?

not me...

nps6724
07-01-2008, 10:53 PM
so who is ready to be swept again?

The Braves.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 11:06 PM
not me...neither am I, but if the braves keep playing like this (and no signs in which they will stop) be prepared.

nps6724
07-01-2008, 11:07 PM
4 games under .500 now. That is just pathetic for this team, injuries or not.

laxman1017
07-01-2008, 11:09 PM
Hey...Thorman can put some power into our lineup...hahahaha

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 11:34 PM
Braves unable to climb out of early hole
Chipper, Kotsay return, but Morton endures first rough outing


ATLANTA -- There has been reason to wonder how the Braves have been able to encounter so many injuries and still remain in the thick of the National League East race. But if they continue this sort of futility against the Phillies, there will no longer be reason to wonder.
All of the excitement regarding the returns of Chipper Jones and Mark Kotsay to the lineup was quickly erased by the Phillies' assault on Charlie Morton. The young right-hander encountered the first bad start of his young career and created a deficit too big for the Braves to overcome in their 8-3 loss at Turner Field on Tuesday night.

Making his fourth career start, Morton allowed five earned runs and eight hits in just two-plus innings. Most of that damage occurred after the 24-year-old hurler surrendered six straight hits, including five singles, to begin the third inning. The only extra-base hit during that stretch came courtesy of Shane Victorino's line-drive, two-run homer over the right-field wall.

The four-run third inning provided the difference for the Phillies, who have won six of the first seven games they've played against the Braves this year and 15 of the past 21 games dating back to last year. Despite having lost 11 of their previous 14 games entering this series, the Phillies lead the National League East and now have a five-game lead over the fourth-place Braves.

Including the 12 starts he made for Triple-A Richmond, Morton hadn't previously allowed a homer this season. But Pat Burrell ended that streak when he began the second inning by hitting a 1-2 curveball over the left-field wall.

Phillies starter Kyle Kendrick blanked the Braves for the first six innings and then exited after allowing three straight hits, including Greg Norton's pinch-hit, two-run double to begin the bottom of the seventh. Left-handed reliever J.C. Romero entered and issued consecutive one-out walks to Kelly Johnson and Jones. But he rebounded by inducing consecutive groundouts by Mark Teixeira and Brian McCann.

Jones, who had been out of the lineup for the previous eight games with a strained right quad, showed some hustle when he hit a ball into the right-center-field gap and raced to second for a double. Kotsay, who hadn't played since May 25, went hitless in his four at-bats.braves.com

box (http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20080701&content_id=3041572&vkey=wrapup2005&fext=.jsp&team=home)

BravesFan4Life
07-01-2008, 11:36 PM
Put a fork in them, they are done.. How many teams are usually out of a 9 inning game by the 3rd inning? Just when we try to make things interesting, on comes the lame horse Blaine Boyer.. Probably the most important series of the year is right here and at home nonetheless, we get both Chipper and Kotsay back, and they fall on their faces yet again..

I seriously see no upside to this team, so I sincerely hope that they unload Teixeira and at least get something in return for him before he walks at the end of the season.. Does anyone here honestly believe that the Braves will fork out 20 million a year for 8 years and most likely a no trade clause to try and retain Tex when we haven't won a damn thing with him? I don't.. If they did, they would be stupid..

With or without the beard Francouer's act is tired.. This team is in desperation mode with no sign of life.. They should really look to unload some players and rebuild for their future again.. I would say that with the exception of C Jones, Hudson, McCann, and Jurrgens not one single player should be untouchable.. Half of our starting rotation and bullpen wouldn't even make most other ball teams main rosters.. This is a cut and paste ball team, and they are horrible..

nps6724
07-01-2008, 11:39 PM
I sincerely hope we fall 10 out instead of hanging around 4 out all year. If we hang around like we did last year, we will not only miss the playoffs but also lose our chance to trade Tex because he isn't resigning with us. Fall out early so we can actually get something for him.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 11:40 PM
^right on time, I'll look for yet another one of these tommorow, or maybe at the end of the series.

ugafan
07-01-2008, 11:43 PM
BK, remember how much i told you the damage was for the lightning?

lavell12
07-01-2008, 11:45 PM
the problem is this team is dead if the first 5 hitters don't score. Blanco is turning into a good leadoff hitter but the bottom of the order sucks.

lavell12
07-01-2008, 11:46 PM
I knew Campillo shoud have started the series with Hudson finishing it b/c of the normal rest.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 11:47 PM
BK, remember how much i told you the damage was for the lightning?not from the top of my head, just know it was a lot why?

nps6724
07-01-2008, 11:47 PM
I knew Campillo shoud have started the series with Hudson finishing it b/c of the normal rest.

All that would've happened is Hudson would've got blown out on Thursday instead of Morton getting blown out tonight.

BRAVE KID
07-01-2008, 11:50 PM
the problem is this team is dead if the first 5 hitters don't score. Blanco is turning into a good leadoff hitter but the bottom of the order sucks.don't think that the first 5 hitters are good to go, blanco is becoming a pretty good lead-off hitter, rather have esco at second, CJ does his job as always, but Tex and b-mac are inconsisent in driving in runs, if they both have gotten a hit in the bottom of the 7th, we may be talking about a win. anyway I believe tex went hitless in this one.

ugafan
07-02-2008, 12:58 AM
not from the top of my head, just know it was a lot why?

20 grand, just got an estimate, multiply that by 8:cry:

Coletrain
07-02-2008, 02:42 AM
braves will win next two