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chad311k9
06-27-2008, 09:06 PM
North Carolina did not lose a single player in the draft. Unlike the other final 4 teams, ucla(3), memphis(3), and kansas(5) who lost many of their players. Elite 8 teams Louisville, Davidson, Texas(1), and Xavier remained strong by not losing any players, except for Texas losing 1 starter. So just an FYI!

cambovenzi
06-27-2008, 11:41 PM
Duke>UNC. both should compete for the title.

ridiculous depth.
very young team will improve alot.

they also have a much better shot of winning the year after.
if everyone doesnt leave early. only paulus is graduating next year.

op12
06-27-2008, 11:45 PM
Duke>UNC. both should compete.

ridiculous depth.
very young team will improve alot.

they also have a much better shot of winning the year after.
if everyone doesnt leave early. only paulus is graduating next year.

you have got to be kidding me. unc may split with duke, but that is the only game they will lose all year, as long as no one gets hurts for a long period. duke will be decent this year, but no way a final four team. i dont think unc will be stopped, especially after last years choke.

cambovenzi
06-27-2008, 11:49 PM
you have got to be kidding me. unc may split with duke, but that is the only game they will lose all year, as long as no one gets hurts for a long period. duke will be decent this year, but no way a final four team. i dont think unc will be stopped, especially after last years choke.

do you really think they are that much better than everyone else?
thats a joke.
even if they are the best team, its basketball. you lose games.

im sure choking, as you put it, is a good pointer towards them not choking again :rolleyes:

mkool65
06-28-2008, 12:12 AM
OK, coming from a neutral source (I am a Michigan State fan) UNC will absolutely DESTROY Duke this year along with almost every other team in the country. It will be an upset if they do not win the NCAA title. Duke lacks the big men to win a title or the ACC. Duke is a sweet 16 team maybe elite 8. Right now I would say they are right on par with my Spartans.

cambovenzi
06-28-2008, 01:59 PM
OK, coming from a neutral source (I am a Michigan State fan) UNC will absolutely DESTROY Duke this year along with almost every other team in the country. It will be an upset if they do not win the NCAA title. Duke lacks the big men to win a title or the ACC. Duke is a sweet 16 team maybe elite 8. Right now I would say they are right on par with my Spartans.

UNC is magically going to get much much much better than duke? let alone everyone else. duke has loads of great young players, the best coach ever, and only loses 1 guy. yep, after being about even last year, UNC will randomly be god:rolleyes:

what is so different from the year before?
they split the 2 games they played.
duke was 13-3 in conference, UNC was 14-2.
duke beat marquette, davidson and wisconsin in non-conf play.
UNC beat davidson by 4, and a bunch of horrible teams.(in non-conf play)

as far as big men go, they dont have a whole lot. but they have enough.
Kyle Singler, Lance Thomas, Brian Zoubek,
and 2 very good freshman PF's coming in. plumlee(6'10''), and czyz(6'8'')
some of the best guards also make up for lack of size.
Henderson, Scheyer, Paulus, Smith. and one of the best frshman: elliot williams.

ist not all about size.
duke can rain down open threes all day.
just like they did against UNC in their 1st game last year.

Casino
06-30-2008, 12:21 PM
Living and dying by the 3 is a recipe for disaster. You have to have an inside game to be successful and guards that will take it to the hole. That way, you can get to the line more.

cambovenzi
06-30-2008, 01:41 PM
Living and dying by the 3 is a recipe for disaster. You have to have an inside game to be successful and guards that will take it to the hole. That way, you can get to the line more.

they still have singler, zoubek(7'0'') and thomas for the inside.
and henderson, smith and others can drive more than effectively.

im just saying on any given night duke could easily beat UNC with 3's that they are so good at.

Silver88
06-30-2008, 01:44 PM
There's no doubt in my mine UNC is gonna win it all.

MoJay
06-30-2008, 02:43 PM
Ya UNC will be nasty next year but for some reason Louisville is the team that I think has a good shot of wining it all next year. I am also a neutral fan (Ohio State)

Silver88
06-30-2008, 03:40 PM
Louisville is gonna be awesome next year, I think Louisville faces UNC, but UNC takes it.

Casino
06-30-2008, 04:20 PM
Don't sleep on Pittsburgh either.

op12
06-30-2008, 10:30 PM
UNC is magically going to get much much much better than duke? let alone everyone else. duke has loads of great young players, the best coach ever, and only loses 1 guy. yep, after being about even last year, UNC will randomly be god:rolleyes:

what is so different from the year before?
they split the 2 games they played.
duke was 13-3 in conference, UNC was 14-2.
duke beat marquette, davidson and wisconsin in non-conf play.
UNC beat davidson by 4, and a bunch of horrible teams.(in non-conf play)

as far as big men go, they dont have a whole lot. but they have enough.
Kyle Singler, Lance Thomas, Brian Zoubek,
and 2 very good freshman PF's coming in. plumlee(6'10''), and czyz(6'8'')
some of the best guards also make up for lack of size.
Henderson, Scheyer, Paulus, Smith. and one of the best frshman: elliot williams.

ist not all about size.
duke can rain down open threes all day.
just like they did against UNC in their 1st game last year.


a final 4 season vs a 2nd rd (and nearly 1st rd) exit. acc champions, both season and tournament. rolls eyes, since unc was randomly good last year.

cambovenzi
07-01-2008, 12:07 AM
a final 4 season vs a 2nd rd (and nearly 1st rd) exit. acc champions, both season and tournament. rolls eyes, since unc was randomly good last year.

duke won 1, yes ONE less ACC game during the season than UNC, and split the regular season series.

op12
07-01-2008, 09:47 AM
duke won 1, yes ONE less ACC game during the season than UNC, and split the regular season series.

ok...what about the acc tournament? what about the ncaa tournament? ONE less win still is not the acc season championship. your points are not very good. i think i have made mine and im done.

cambovenzi
07-01-2008, 12:21 PM
ok...what about the acc tournament? what about the ncaa tournament? ONE less win still is not the acc season championship. your points are not very good. i think i have made mine and im done.

run away then.
i made a very good point, that DUKE is just about as good as UNC, and easily have a shot to beat them any given night.

Duke had a bad game in rd 2.
its a crap shoot in the tourney.
16 ACC games, is a much better, and bigger barometer of who is good than a couple tourney games.

op12
07-01-2008, 01:34 PM
run away then.
i made a very good point, that DUKE is just about as good as UNC, and easily have a shot to beat them any given night.

Duke had a bad game in rd 2.
its a crap shoot in the tourney.
16 ACC games, is a much better, and bigger barometer of who is good than a couple tourney games.


i said in my 1st post that they may split with duke, but i doubt they will lose to anyone else. on any given night of course one can beat the other. but compared to last season, when you look at all factors, it is obvious unc is the better team. i think duke has been slightly overated the past couple of year, because they are duke. they probably will split, but duke is not championship material. anybody can beat anybody on a certain day.

cambovenzi
07-01-2008, 11:21 PM
i said in my 1st post that they may split with duke, but i doubt they will lose to anyone else. on any given night of course one can beat the other. but compared to last season, when you look at all factors, it is obvious unc is the better team. i think duke has been slightly overated the past couple of year, because they are duke. they probably will split, but duke is not championship material. anybody can beat anybody on a certain day.
exactly, so dont run around claiming UNC is unstoppable, maybe only losing 1 game all year, when they have a great chance that they wont win it all.

op12
07-02-2008, 08:55 AM
but as far as straight talent and experience (final 4 and elite 8) they are superior to most and the acc is not as strong as they have been. i think duke is the only acc team that can contend at all. therefore i say they lost 1 game and thats to duke. i really dont understand your anger about these posts, i said they will split with duke, but who else will beat them in the acc. this is not dissing your precious dookies. you just want to argue.

18colts29
07-02-2008, 08:28 PM
UNC + Hansborough= Champs

cambovenzi
07-03-2008, 03:01 PM
but as far as straight talent and experience (final 4 and elite 8) they are superior to most and the acc is not as strong as they have been. i think duke is the only acc team that can contend at all. therefore i say they lost 1 game and thats to duke. i really dont understand your anger about these posts, i said they will split with duke, but who else will beat them in the acc. this is not dissing your precious dookies. you just want to argue.

you guys are saying they are unstoppable, and easily the champs in one breathe, then admit duke can easily beat them one game.
if duke can beat them, they aren't sure-fire champs.
infact, its basketball, they are bound to lose more than just 1 game. which some of you seem to forget.
even if they are the best team, they more likely then not wont win the title. all it takes is one loss in the tourney.

op12
07-03-2008, 10:05 PM
you guys are saying they are unstoppable, and easily the champs in one breathe, then admit duke can easily beat them one game.
if duke can beat them, they aren't sure-fire champs.
infact, its basketball, they are bound to lose more than just 1 game. which some of you seem to forget.
even if they are the best team, they more likely then not wont win the title. all it takes is one loss in the tourney.

first of all saying if your the best team then your not likely to win is silly. second i said in the first post that they would split with duke. they normally split and even if i do think they will win it all that doesnt mean that they are not allowed to split with duke. you have no come back when i talk about dukes past season, you just want to bash unc. i am sorry your lakers lost, your mets and bears suck and duke is not in the same league as unc last year and this coming year. you dont have to take it out on me. so bitter.

op12
07-03-2008, 10:06 PM
memphis only lost 1 game during the season. granted they did lose the finals, but still, it is possible.

MoJay
07-04-2008, 07:00 PM
you kind of forgot they are losing 3 players two of them who are very good

Newport05
07-04-2008, 11:45 PM
Duke will be insignificant to the mighty tarheels this year. I expect double digit victories by the tar heels over duke this year.

cambovenzi
07-05-2008, 05:11 PM
first of all saying if your the best team then your not likely to win is silly. second i said in the first post that they would split with duke. they normally split and even if i do think they will win it all that doesnt mean that they are not allowed to split with duke. you have no come back when i talk about dukes past season, you just want to bash unc. i am sorry your lakers lost, your mets and bears suck and duke is not in the same league as unc last year and this coming year. you dont have to take it out on me. so bitter.

read what i said.
they are MORE LIKELY to not win the finals, than win it, even if they are the best team.
this makes perfect sense if you know how college basketball works.
the best team doesn't win it all every year. in most cases they dont.

7 teams in HISTORY since the beginning of the seeding process, have entered the tournament ranked #1 in at least 1 poll and gone on to win the tournament.

UNC does not outclass duke.
at this point they might be slightly better. but to repeatedly insist otherwise, AND say they will lose a game to duke is pretty funny. again, UNC won ONE, yes ONE more ACC game last season than duke, and split the season series. idk on what planet that means they outclassed them, but you must be there.

your seriously a joke. you resort to hating on my other teams to make you look better. when in reality it just makes you look foolish and immature.
i have some very solid points, you just cant understand them, or choose not to.

op12
07-05-2008, 07:01 PM
read what i said.
they are MORE LIKELY to not win the finals, than win it, even if they are the best team.
this makes perfect sense if you know how college basketball works.
the best team doesn't win it all every year. in most cases they dont.

7 teams in HISTORY since the beginning of the seeding process, have entered the tournament ranked #1 in at least 1 poll and gone on to win the tournament.

UNC does not outclass duke.
at this point they might be slightly better. but to repeatedly insist otherwise, AND say they will lose a game to duke is pretty funny. again, UNC won ONE, yes ONE more ACC game last season than duke, and split the season series. idk on what planet that means they outclassed them, but you must be there.

your seriously a joke. you resort to hating on my other teams to make you look better. when in reality it just makes you look foolish and immature.
i have some very solid points, you just cant understand them, or choose not to.


yes i am a joke because i am the one who started this arguement. i didnt say they outclassed them 1st of all, but they did have a better season and that is a fact. ok one more acc game, fine, but you continue to not discuss the acc tournament, which unc won, and the ncaa tournament, which unc made it to the final 4. i dont know what planet you are on but a final 4 and acc championship season is better than a 2nd rd exit and semifinal exit in the acc. what is immature and foolish is your continued point that they only won 1 more acc game than duke, ok, talk about the other points i have been making. you also continue to argue and call me a joke when it is a fact based on everything put together that unc had a much better season than duke last year. continue to run your mouth and think you have solid points. duke and unc always have a great chance to split regardless of how good each are. you are also ignoring every other poster is here who agrees with me. you are wrong, unc had a better year, get over it and we will see who is right in march. you can continue to argue and make the same point over and over, but i am done with you.

cambovenzi
07-06-2008, 11:59 AM
yes i am a joke because i am the one who started this arguement. i didnt say they outclassed them 1st of all, but they did have a better season and that is a fact. ok one more acc game, fine, but you continue to not discuss the acc tournament, which unc won, and the ncaa tournament, which unc made it to the final 4. i dont know what planet you are on but a final 4 and acc championship season is better than a 2nd rd exit and semifinal exit in the acc. what is immature and foolish is your continued point that they only won 1 more acc game than duke, ok, talk about the other points i have been making. you also continue to argue and call me a joke when it is a fact based on everything put together that unc had a much better season than duke last year. continue to run your mouth and think you have solid points. duke and unc always have a great chance to split regardless of how good each are. you are also ignoring every other poster is here who agrees with me. you are wrong, unc had a better year, get over it and we will see who is right in march. you can continue to argue and make the same point over and over, but i am done with you.

ive said UNC had a better season. but its BARELY a better season. who knows how the players will progress from last year.

yea, duke barely lost in the second round to a good WV team. losing once in a while happens, its basketball. duke had a horrible shooting game. most other times they have great shooting games. they could have easily had great shooting games, and gone farther than UNC. luck has alot to do with it. single elimination tourneys are crap shoots.

its not like UNC beat these amazing, great teams in the finals. they beat some mediocre teams, and got blown out by kansas.

dont lie, you said "duke is not in the same league as unc last year and this coming year."
thats the same thing as saying UNC outclasses duke. when they are , and were almost equal.

my point is, and has always been, that Duke was just about as good as UNC last year, and should be again next year as well, with many great young players, and arguably the best coach in college basketball history.

op12
07-06-2008, 02:27 PM
alright then. we will agree to disagree and see what happens this season.