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hughest4
06-26-2008, 10:19 PM
Even though i know Woodson has done great for us, i am very surprised that he was ranked so high. It doesn't seem like people realize how good he is but obviously Prisco does. I can't say i agree with guys like Freeney being ahead of Kampman but oh well...

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10877567

The Boss
06-26-2008, 10:29 PM
god.....is it football season yet?

SDteacher
06-26-2008, 11:03 PM
god.....is it football season yet?

I agree I'm getting tired of all this foreplay. I'm ready for the real thing, thanks for the post though it was intersting reading his reasoning.

hughest4
06-26-2008, 11:07 PM
I agree I'm getting tired of all this foreplay. I'm ready for the real thing, thanks for the post though it was intersting reading his reasoning.

No problem, i'm just trying to post anything that has to do with the Packers and that is somewhat interesting. This offseason seems like its going too slow and i'm so ready for this season to start. Even though Favre is gone i am still hoping for big things

XJW18
06-26-2008, 11:15 PM
lets just say Charles Woodson is a lil overrated and Aaron Kampman is underated by this guy.

XJW18
06-26-2008, 11:20 PM
wow.
i looked at his top 50 and WOW.
ernie sims is on the list! and guys like Nick Barnett arnt!
plus he overates alot of guys!

The Boss
06-27-2008, 12:03 AM
I agree thanks for the post....it would have taken me a little while to stumble across this.....charles woodson in my eyes is not overrated the guy is a ballhawk...he may get beat every once and a while by man does he make up for it he seems to make a big play everygame....and lets face it Aaron Kampman will always be underrated, why? who know but its fine with me!!!

Cannot wait til family night!!!!!!

IRNMN
06-27-2008, 12:31 AM
I personally try to avoid these kind of rankings quite simplay because it's some guys opinion not the truth. But atleast both guys got some recognition.

robdizzle3
06-27-2008, 01:01 AM
I dont think I would take C Wood 2nd over any Corner but that is his point of view.Kampman is higher then the #6 DE in the league and he after th past two years is still one of the most overrated players in the league.This is really sad.Also Greg Jennings and Donald Driver are better then Wes Welker and people will see as much when he has to be the number 2 guy and other teams will get a chance to knock him around.But thats my opinion as well

twelvePack
06-27-2008, 01:40 AM
I have no problem with these rankings. I think it is great that Woodson finally gets some credit. The guy is underrated even by our own fans. The guy has been the best corner on the Pack since he got to town. No disrespect to Harris, but Woodson is the far superior corner. Woodson is the reason that Harris looks like he has declined. Nothing has changed, except that teams are throwing at Harris more often now, and staying away from Woodson. Harris never got thrown at before, because, well we all know about Ahmad Carroll (hate bringing his name up).

SamG187
06-27-2008, 09:43 AM
Yea it should maybe be the other way around, with Kampman at 2 and Woodson at 6, dont get me wrong Woodson is my favorite player in the league and very under appreciated, but he covers the 2 receiver

Packerbacker
06-27-2008, 12:04 PM
Thats crap, only 2 packers make that list? people always underate the pack no matter how much talent we have on the team or how we performed the year before. They will all be eating crow and riding the A Rod bandwagon at the end of the season.

beast
06-27-2008, 01:45 PM
and lets face it Aaron Kampman will always be underrated, why? who know but its fine with me!!!

I think it's because

1) he's more of a power DE than a speed DE, and speed guys always get over hyped at every positions other than maybe the OL. And really unless there great usually the power DE are under hype.

2) he's not cocky, 100% down to earth, and not overly exciting to listen to. (yes that hurts him on the hype even if it shouldn't which it shouldn't but it does (it's like some other teams fans over hype Poppinga just because he's fun to hear) and to go with that does anybody remember Kampman doing a dance or anything big after a big play by him? (other than an high five?)

I think those are some reason there most likely is more, but those are some.

SamG187
06-27-2008, 02:49 PM
Yea Kampman is definetly underrated, not to many guy that get sacks like him can play the run as good as he can, he's all around and real smart, get his hands up on passes, everything the all around package

Soop
07-02-2008, 10:23 PM
You guys don't listen to Pete Prisco. This guys an idiot. Here is a list of his for the top 50 players. Can you say he's a little off?


Top 50 NFL Players

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By Pete Prisco


Quote:
1. Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots: Can he do any more than he did last season? The scary thing for the rest of the league is, yes he can.

2. Peyton Manning, QB, Indianapolis Colts: Even Manning's down seasons are sensational. If Marvin Harrison is back this year, watch out.

3. LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, San Diego Chargers: His failure to play in the AFC Championship Game hurts his rep some, but he's still the best runner in the game.

4. Randy Moss, WR, New England Patriots: Talk about resurrecting a reputation. He wasn't on many top 50 lists a year ago. Now he's a top 10 player.

5. Champ Bailey, CB, Denver Broncos: It's chic to pick his game apart. That's foolish. Bailey is still the best cover corner in the game.

6. Mario Williams, DE, Houston Texans: Williams is making the Texans proud for passing on Reggie Bush and Vince Young to take this pass rusher. He might have been the league's best defensive player in the final eight weeks of 2007.

7. Bob Sanders, S, Indianapolis Colts: The only thing holding him back is the injury issues. When he's on the field, the Colts have a different defense.

8. Carson Palmer, QB, Cincinnati Bengals: After Brady and Manning he's the third-best quarterback. The Bengals need to run it a little better to take the heat off him.

9. DeMarcus Ware, OLB, Dallas Cowboys: He was given more freedom in Wade Phillips' version of the 3-4 and played better in 2007. Ware is a speed rusher who has his best football still in front of him.

10. Kevin Williams, DT, Minnesota Vikings: He is a powerful inside player who teams with Pat Williams to form the best tackle tandem in the league. He is good against the run, yet quick enough to get pass-rush penetration.

11. Shawne Merriman, LB, San Diego Chargers: Merriman is a pass-rush force off the edge. His quickness and power are the perfect combination for the Chargers' 3-4 system. You have to account for him on every pass play.

12. Jared Allen, DE, Minnesota Vikings: He led the league in sacks last season with the Chiefs. The Vikings added him to give them the best defensive line in the league. Allen plays hard all the time.

13. Terrell Owens, WR, Dallas Cowboys: Forget all the theatrics. He's a star player. He bounced back from his off 2006 season to be one of the best last season. I'd take him on my team any day.

14. Albert Haynesworth, DT, Tennessee Titans: Before he got hurt midway through last season, he was on his way to a potential Defensive Player of the Year award. When motivated, he is as good as anybody inside.

15. Adrian Peterson, RB, Minnesota Vikings: Peterson was special as a rookie and should be even better this time around. He is a big, strong and fast and can rip off the big runs with an Eric Dickerson-like ease.

16. Walter Jones, T, Seattle Seahawks: Jones is a rock on the left side of the Seattle line. He is a great pass protector who has improved as a run blocker.

17. Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Pittsburgh Steelers: At 26, he's entering his prime. Roethlisberger has developed into a quality passer. Playing behind a bad line last year, he hung in tough and led the Steelers to a division title.

18. Charles Woodson, CB, Green Bay Packers: Ask Packers insiders who was better last season, Woodson or Pro Bowl player Al Harris. The answer is Woodson. After Bailey, I'd take him over all other corners.

19. Steve Hutchinson, G, Minnesota Vikings: He wasn't his usual self in his first season with the Vikings in 2006, but bounced back to his dominating form last year.

20. Brian Westbrook, RB, Philadelphia Eagles: It's scary to think what the Eagles offense would be like without him. He's a better runner inside the tackles than many expected and he's good in the passing game. He's a versatile weapon.

21. Steve Smith, WR, Carolina Panthers: He was hurt last season when Jake Delhomme went down. It doesn't help that Smith has little help on the other side. Defenses all double him.

22. Reggie Wayne, WR, Indianapolis Colts: When Marvin Harrison was out last season, Wayne emerged as the team's go-to receiver. The guess here is that is that it stays that way. He's a true star now.

23. Ed Reed, S, Baltimore Ravens: He is the prototype modern safety: rangy and can still tackle. He is what safeties like Roy Williams wish they could be.

24. Antonio Gates, TE, San Diego Chargers: When the Chargers need a first down through the air, Gates is that guy. And he does it facing constant double-coverage.

25. Dwight Freeney, DE, Indianapolis Colts: He's coming off a serious foot injury, which is a concern. It's why his ranking is down. When he's truly healthy, he's a top 15 player.

26. Andre Johnson, WR, Houston Texans: Injuries limited him last season, but Johnson is one of the best when he's on the field. The Texans were a different team without him last season.

27. Jason Peters, T, Buffalo Bills: I love young, rising players like Peters. He plays with a mean streak. Watching him play is like watching a defensive player go at it.

28. Chad Johnson, WR, Cincinnati Bengals: He isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is. But he's still pretty damn good. He does have a tendency to disappear in big games.

29. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, Oakland Raiders: DeAngelo Hall might get more attention on the other side this season, but Asomugha is a better player. He's been overlooked for the past two seasons.

30. Richard Seymour, DE, New England Patriots: He played hurt last season and wasn't the same player as in years past. But he's still one of the best when he's healthy.

31. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Arizona Cardinals: The Cardinals gave him a new contract in March because he's their go-to guy. He teams with Anquan Boldin to form one of the top receiving duos.

32. Brian Urlacher, LB, Chicago Bears: A few years back he was overrated. He's not anymore. Urlacher excels in the middle of the Chicago defense.

33. Steven Jackson, RB, St. Louis Rams: The offensive line woes of the Rams really hurt Jackson last season. That line will be better this season and his numbers will go up.

34. Braylon Edwards, WR, Cleveland Browns: Edwards was second to Moss with 16 receiving touchdowns in his third season in the league. He averaged 16.1 per catch and will only get better as he hits his prime.

35. Drew Brees, QB, New Orleans Saints: For the second consecutive season, Brees put up huge numbers in the Saints offense. He might not be the biggest or have the strongest arm, but Brees knows how to throw the football.

36. Tommie Harris, DT, Chicago Bears: Harris is strong and quick. He had eight sacks last season, showing off his quickness. He can still hold the point against the run.

37. Asante Samuel, CB, Philadelphia Eagles: He had a big season at the right time, cashing in on a huge deal with the Eagles. He's great at playing the ball in the air, but some scouts think he freelances too much.

38. Shawn Andrews, G, Philadelphia Eagles: He's a huge guard at 6-4, 345 pounds and he shows off that power when blocking for the run. He improved in pass protection in 2007, although the Eagles line regressed as a whole.

39. Ernie Sims, LB, Detroit Lions: It's too bad more people don't get to watch him play. He's a fast linebacker who always seems to find his way to the football. He's a younger Derrick Brooks.

40. Lofa Tatupu, LB, Seattle Seahawks: He's a fierce tackler in the middle of that Seattle defense. He's not big at 6-feet tall, but he plays big. You can tell he loves the game.

41. Vince Wilfork, DT, New England Patriots: He was the best front-seven player on the Pats defense last season. He's a load in the middle. Moving him off the ball is tough for any center.

42. Osi Umenyiora, DE, New York Giants: His speed off the right side is a huge plus for the New York defense. Without Mike Strahan playing on the other side this season, it will be interesting to see how Umenyiora does now.

43. Patrick Willis, LB, San Francisco 49ers: It didn't take him long to establish himself as a top middle linebacker. He is fast, active and packs a punch. In a year or so, he might be the best insider linebacker in the game.

44. Kellen Winslow, TE, Cleveland Browns: He has emerged as one of the rising stars for a rising team. His ability to stretch the defense is vital to the Cleveland offense.

45. Aaron Kampman, DE, Green Bay Packers: He plays all out all the time. Despite being light at 265 pounds, he holds up against the run at left end quite well. He has speed and strength as a pass rusher.

46. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Kansas City Chiefs: He's one of those guys who doesn't seem to ever slow down. He had 99 catches last year in a bad offense.

47. Marcus Trufant, CB, Seattle Seahawks: He led all NFC corners with seven interceptions. He also got credit for 22 passes defensed. He has emerged as a top-tier corner.

48. Wes Welker, WR, New England Patriots: Yes, he belongs on this list. He had an amazing season as a slot receiver in 2007. Even when teams knew he was getting the football, he made plays.

49. Fred Taylor, RB, Jacksonville Jaguars: Taylor finally got his due last season with his first Pro Bowl appearance. At 32, he remains one of the biggest home-run threats in the league. His 5.4 per-carry average was second best among the league's best rushers to Peterson (5.6).

50. Devin Hester, KR, Chicago Bears: I don't normally put return men on these lists, but this guy has earned it. It will be interesting to see how long he can maintain it.

Just missed:
Julius Peppers, DE, Carolina Panthers
Larry Johnson, RB, Kansas City Chiefs
Patrick Kerney, DE, Seattle Seahawks
Troy Polamalu, S, Pittsburgh Steelers
Adrian Wilson, S, Arizona Cardinals
Antonio Cromartie, CB, San Diego Chargers
Terence Newman, CB, Dallas Cowboys
DeMeco Ryans, LB, Houston Texans
Tony Romo, QB, Dallas Cowboys.

Packersfan
07-05-2008, 01:37 AM
wow.
i looked at his top 50 and WOW.
ernie sims is on the list! and guys like Nick Barnett arnt!
plus he overates alot of guys!

EXACTLY!!!

Urbs
07-05-2008, 04:03 PM
ok, so Demeco Ryans gets left off the list and Ernie Sims makes it??? IDK about that one. Im not saying Ryans is amazing, he is good, but he has proven more than Sims thats for sure. Also this guy puts Mario Williams as the best or second best DE and leaves Peppers off the list??? Maybe he wasnt that productive this year, but everyone knows he is probably the best DE in the league.

ryanph30
07-06-2008, 12:33 AM
This list is a joke.

Richinillinois
07-07-2008, 10:09 AM
I kinda thought Woodson was our #2 Cb on the Pack.....

hughest4
07-07-2008, 03:29 PM
I kinda thought Woodson was our #2 Cb on the Pack.....

Technically i guess he is, but that doesn't necessarily mean he isn't the best. Its really all a matter of opinion though. Many people think Al Harris's skills are diminishing and CW has taken over as #1. Obviously Pete Prisco feels that way based on his rankings