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rocketfuel
05-03-2008, 02:05 AM
What do you guys think Morey should do this offseason?

Well, here's what I think:

Get Yao healthy (obviously)
Find a third scorer, preferrably an outside shooter
Get rid of Bobby Jackson
Keep Mutombo
Lock up Landry
Keep Mike Harris
Take a look at Gerald Green to see if he has anything

I think Scola and Landry made the team a lot stronger and sealed a weak spot...giving us more balanced scoring....our frontline would have been awesome if Yao didn't go down. Alston has played a lot better this year...if we can get a better point, then it would be great....but if not (which it would be hard to do) then he would be solid. I still think that if we could get a Mike Miller like shooter it would really make a huge difference. Novak's an efficient shooter, but he's not as well-rounded like Miller to stay on the court. Or we could go for a defensive ace....if Battier goes down, the team would seriously miss him because there's no other guy on the team that can relieve Tmac of having to guard the other team's best player. Do we have any draft picks this year?

G2BOAT
05-03-2008, 02:46 AM
If anybody says thrade T-Mac your a fool who has no ****ing clue what there talking about and you should be banned. That question mark guy and the LeBron James sig guy please try and just place blame on T-Mac because I know you two haters...no matter what McGrady does it's not enough.

Sorry to get off topic, but what we need is another big man who can backup Yao and take his place if he goes down again. Also, we need a consistant shooter from the outside. I'm too ****** off to get into detail, but off the top of my head that's what we need to do first and for most.

ufd869
05-03-2008, 02:59 AM
scola would be your third option.

find us a better PG by now all of you should know the effect of having a quality PG.

that position will and always be the key to rockets success.

HouRealCoach
05-03-2008, 02:59 AM
Resign Landry, Novak, and Francis, Trade Jackson, Hayes, Head+2nd Rounder for Mike Miller, and Sign Magloire & Bonzi. Get Magloire & Francis back to their old forms. Trade Alston for a Big Man

Yao/ Magloire/ 1st rounder
Scola/ Landry
Battier/ Miller/ Harris/ Novak
Mcgrady/ Bonzi
Francis/ Brooks/

rocketfuel
05-03-2008, 05:59 AM
Who's a better defender Battier or Artest? Man to man and team defense....

I totally forgot about Francis.... I hope he heals....his whole game depends on his explosiveness. He had a few really good games and then suddenly started to play like crap when his injury started to kick in.

rocketfuel
05-03-2008, 06:00 AM
By the way, where was Francis in the playoffs? I didn't see him once on the sidelines....Just saw Yao and Mike Harris.

Chronz
05-03-2008, 06:15 AM
Trade Battier and Bobby Jax expiring for a legit starting PG. Sign Peitrus to fill in Battiers role and hope he rediscovers his offensive game. Resign Green just to have someone to develop, dont make too splashy of a move, its clear the team is heading in the right direction. Oh and find a decent backup for Yao, the guy cannot play heavy minutes, players of his size and stature arent meant for that, look at Big Z. The most important part is to limit Yao's minutes, and maybe even let him sit out some of the early season so he can get some rest between the olympics, get into game shape and finish the season strong.

val_modus
05-03-2008, 09:04 AM
well i cant say this was McGrady's fault cuz he did keep us in this game, but overall this series i didnt see his whole Superstar Status, plus third quarter when we got raped... 0 points, but no no no, im not puting the blame on him, our role players couldnt make shots today and he did need some help, cant ask him to do everything, he did keep us close, so game 5 and 6 thanks McGrady for giving us hope.

connorg3
05-03-2008, 09:42 AM
This is not a bad team at all. They have grown exponentially this season. We are a true force at PF with the combo of Scola/Landry. Alot of people knock our PG status, but like it or not, Alston is alot of this teams swagger. That doesn't show up on the stat line. I think:

1. We need a back up center. Pretty sure Deke is done. I would address this through the draft. Many mocks show R. Lopez or maybe even Hibbert falling to us. We need a guy who can play 30 min. a night if need be if something were to happen to Yao. Many of the centers in the draft are defensive, which basically gives us a young Deke with fresh legs behind Yao.

2. We need a scorer at the 2/3 spot to come of the bench. I don't care if they rebound or assist. I'm talking a Michael Redd type player on a lesser scale. Instant offense.

3. This is a huge need. Set the team up so that Mac and Yao can play 34-38 min max and us still stay competitive.

I think these things are a start. We DO NOT need to bring in 30+ year old scrubs who show up when they want to (Bonzi) or projects (Gerald Green) like many people are suggesting. We're a damn good team, and when healthy can win it all. DM is a good exec. These trades with N.O. and Minn were not about acquiring talent solely. It was to get rid of burdensome contracts, period. Now we will start to actually see more freedom to move. BJ and Deke gone, Head, Hayes, Novak trade bait. I'm hoping for something good.:clap:

connorg3
05-03-2008, 09:43 AM
oh, and if PG is a true concern, the team might wanna keep an eye on the developing situation in Toronto. Jose Calderon is their guy, and TJ Ford wants out. Might get him cheap.

Russjr2
05-03-2008, 10:43 AM
1. A decision will need to be made at the PG spot. Right now we have 4, we only need 3. I think Francis is the odd mad out due to his age and injury situation. B Jax did well, he is not a starting PG, he had to try and fill that role. Give him a whole training camp with the team and he will be a very good backup for us.

2. Find a legitimate backup C who fits Adelman's system. We need a 6'10 active body in the lane when Yao goes out. We cannot get away with playing Hayes, Landry and Scola at C for long stretches. The better teams expose us and kill us on the boards.

3. Find a scoring wing to backup the 2/3 spots. Mike Miller would be perfect. Even find a starter and move Battier to the bench. It is obvious he is one dimensional, plays good D but doesn't really give you anything else. But maybe he is ok if Yao is on the floor.

Notes: Novak will get playing time next year. We have to find a way to get that shot on the floor. It was hard to get him minutes once Yao went down because we needed players that could create their own shots on the floor. With better players, he can be that dead-eye spot up shooter we need. L Head, is GONE. This series he showed he is not a backup Pg or SG. He gave us nothing but TOs and missed layups this series. They need to package him in a trade. C Hayes needs to be moved out as well. His D does not make up for his lack of size and absolutely NO offensive game. We got Landry and Scola to hustle and scrap now. Thanks chuck you will still get paid.

Another training camp under Adelman with a few new pieces and we will be just fine.

Tmac to da rack
05-03-2008, 12:45 PM
Ok here's what we really need to do:

1. Keep Yao and Tmac, they must come back
2. Get that 3rd guy who can create his own shot and dont have to rely on Tmac and Yao to give them wide open shots, we already have plenty of that.
3. Trade everyone but Tmac, Yao, Scola, Battier, Landry, and maybe Novak because everyone could use a shooter and I believe Novak will be big once Yao comes back he Draws alot of attention in the paint.
4. We MUST find big bodies who can Rebound and Defend the paint, for 2 years in a row we got killed in Offensive rebounds, even last yr when Yao was Healthy.

Rockets Fanatic
05-03-2008, 03:28 PM
Put what u think the Rockets should do this Offseason
1.Trade for Ron Artest (Assuming he doesn't opt out, which he probably wont)

Rockets Get:
Ron Artest
2008 2nd Round Pick

Kings Get:
Bobby Jackson
2008 1st and 2nd Rund Picks
Aaron Brooks
Chuck Hayes

2. Sign Rascho Nesterovic (Assuming Deke Retires), Anthony Carter

3. Draft Shan Foster with the 42nd Pick in the 2008 NBA Draft (Kings Position)

4. Trade Luther Head

Houston Gets:
Channing Frye

Portland Gets:
Luther Head
Cash

Houston Rockets Depth Chart:
PG: Rafer Alson/Steve Francis/Anthony Carter
SG: T-Mac/Shane Battier/Steve Francis/Shan Foster/Steve Novak
SF: Ron Artest/Shane Battier/Steve Novak/Shan Foster/Mike Harris
PF: Luis Scola/Carl Landry/Channing Frye/Mike Harris
C: Yao Ming/Rascho Nesterovic/Channing Frye

T-mac(#1)
05-03-2008, 03:39 PM
You're some crazy foo

val_modus
05-03-2008, 03:46 PM
thats not actually that bad, Kings would like that trade they get younger and exprining contracts and DRAFT PICKS!!! Portland is stacked with Big men so they wouldnt mind giving up Frye up for a good shooter and cash, and Shan Foster is the real deal when it comes to heating up and just flat out draining threes, dont remember who it was against, but this one home game this guy just took over and scored 42 while pulling up from about 30 feet away each time with a guy in his face, he has height for his position, something we dont have, not bad man, not bad.

T-mac(#1)
05-03-2008, 04:10 PM
I would only try and get Miller
Too risky in getting Artest due to his locker room problems

HouRealCoach
05-03-2008, 04:19 PM
Miller is a solid player and has played great with Mcgrady in the past and can average about 16, 4, 4....I think he should be our first choice this offseason

Tmac to da rack
05-03-2008, 04:52 PM
anyway we can get Monta Ellis? His a Free agent this summer but anyway we can do a sign and trade deal? I think he would be perfect!

BallerzDream
05-03-2008, 05:30 PM
The management will consider trading one of our big stars, Yao or Tracy. So far I don't see the committee doing otherwise.

HotRodsHair
05-03-2008, 05:38 PM
I think you guys will be really good next year. Your power forward spot has been upgraded big time with Scola and Landry. With a healthy Yao and Alston, coupled with the experience of Scola, Landry and Brooks, I think you guys are on the cusp of being a dominant team in the league. If any position needed an upgrade I would say the PG needs to be better suited to running the team through multiple options in the flex offense, keeping the dribble alive and running through option 1, 2, 3 or more before cranking out a shot.

Anyone who blames Tmac for the series loss is nutz.

T-mac(#1)
05-03-2008, 05:45 PM
I Apreciate that hot n sexy hair

Ballah0liC1
05-03-2008, 06:39 PM
Miller is a solid player and has played great with Mcgrady in the past and can average about 16, 4, 4....I think he should be our first choice this offseason

millers actually a better rebounder than given credit

pippsux
05-03-2008, 08:25 PM
This is becoming a habit. Another 1 st round exit. I like the Artest move. Tmac's days as a consistent no.1 option are over. We need a guy who can play like a bull, that would be nice.

Checklist for next season also...... Aggresively pursue a point guard, Power forward that can rebound and a 3 point specialist, oh I am sorry we have one, Novak, but coach prefers to play Luther" dummy" Head who once again is a playoff non perfomer.

BallerzDream
05-03-2008, 09:03 PM
This is becoming a habit. Another 1 st round exit. I like the Artest move. Tmac's days as a consistent no.1 option are over. We need a guy who can play like a bull, that would be nice.

Checklist for next season also...... Aggresively pursue a point guard, Power forward that can rebound and a 3 point specialist, oh I am sorry we have one, Novak, but coach prefers to play Luther" dummy" Head who once again is a playoff non perfomer.


I disagree. With a player of his caliber, not to mention his so called "personality", it's almost never certain on how he will perform during the next season. Although his scenario declines year by year, he is still worth our first option.

Bushsucks14
05-03-2008, 09:42 PM
I remember one game where miller had 41,14,14 off the bench. That's the type of production we need

BallerzDream
05-03-2008, 10:44 PM
I remember one game where miller had 41,14,14 off the bench. That's the type of production we need

Thats a one time event. Your expectation is superior. In my eyes Miller is nothing but a waste of money and head crisis.

FEZ
05-03-2008, 10:47 PM
These are things we need to improve on this offseason:

1) Height, Height, Height, and....more height!!!


2) Yao went down because he played too many minutes for a big man...so we need a young 7 footer (HEIGHT!!!!!) who can defend the paint and get rebounds to back-up Yao. We can get this guy in the draft. He needs to be young and explosive to provide a spark off the bench.

3) Get "THAT GUY" that provides instant scoring off the bench. Not a bobby Jackson or a guy like Luther Head...we need a guy that would be a great starter on most other teams. We need a guy of that kind of talent and caliber who is consistent every night.


AND LASTLY....DROP LUTHER HEAD....he's horrible...and i mean horrible come play-off time. He would be good value to trade.

HouRealCoach
05-03-2008, 10:57 PM
We should also sign Magloire and Bonzi Wells

addictsworld
05-04-2008, 12:19 AM
We Should get a ton of scorers in the offseason and get rid of:

1.Luther Head
2.Bobby Jax
3.Shane Battier
4.Rafer Alston
5.Deke
6.Chuck Hayes

addictsworld
05-04-2008, 12:23 AM
By the way, where was Francis in the playoffs? I didn't see him once on the sidelines....Just saw Yao and Mike Harris.

He was at the home games....

addictsworld
05-04-2008, 12:31 AM
All I can Say is Scola or Landry would probaly have to be thrown in any deal if we want a great player in return. Artest, Maggette ect... The saying is you have to give to receive.

rocketfuel
05-04-2008, 05:37 AM
I'm fine with Yao and Tmac...though I think Adelman should play them less minutes at the beginning of the season. The China commitments are kind of ridiculous. Players that play for their international team and then try to play a full NBA season seem to have problems that year---Pau Gasol, Ginolbli, Parker, Duncan....it's probably why Shaq stopped going after that one time. If not fully injured, its always some nagging injury that slows them down. The human body was not meant to handle that much stress. I kind of wish that we had this years role players with last year's Tmac and Yao...

I'm really excited about the power forward position. We not only got one gem, but two and they both bring something unique to the table. Scola--toughness, attitude, team play, skill and hustle....Landry--athleticism, quickness, energy and hustle.

Unlike some, I think we should keep Mutombo...he's still an excellent shotblocker and we can use him against traditional teams. But, I think we need to get a tall center/power forward that can be that quick shotblocker than can patrol the paint against fast teams. We got killed when we put 6'6" or our power forwards as the centers...

What's clear is that this team needs a 3rd scorer guard/wing player. Scola and Landry will be a force next year...but it would be nice to have a guard/wing that can create their offense and keep things going. Either a terrific point guard (probably really tough to get) or a good backup to Tmac... It's too huge of a drop off to go from Tmac to Head...

It seems like the speedy point guard who is dominant is a very important cornerstone to the teams that are doing well.....Tony Parker, Chris Paul, etc. I'm sorry but if we get a backup point guard, he's got to be able to man the point if Alston goes down....not make excuses that he's not really a point guard like BJax....well, if he's not really a point guard, then he shouldn't be here....we need someone that can set up the team. BJax wasn't that great of a scorer, was pretty terrible with his shot, and looks old. A point that can't play point and a shooting guard that's undersized...
Brooks is young, speedy and talented...so it would be interesting to see how he develops. As far as Francis, I think it just depends on how his health is...his whole game depends on his explosiveness...so if he can get that back, then it would be a bonus....if not, then he has a small contract for one year anyway. The odd man out should be BJax--we should get a point that's capable of setting up the team.

I still think the most glaring need on this team is a consistent 3 point shooter---I know we have Novak....but I was thinking of someone that wont' get exploited so much on defense and can actually play 30 minutes a game. Imagine a 3 point shooter of Mike Miller's caliber with Yao in the paint, Tmac driving the lane and Scola or Landry.... that's the missing element.

I do agree that if Yao is in the paint, then guys like Novak would be able to be on the court because they need someone like him to draw attention in the paint and kick out....

I'm fine with Hayes...I think he's a good 3rd string that Adelman can use in situations to guard a top scorer...Harris would also be good to keep.

As for free agents, there's going to be more marquee players than there is money...so maybe one marquee player gets the shaft... what do you guys think of someone like Baron Davis?

by the way, what place are we selecting in the draft?

TMAC94
05-04-2008, 08:55 AM
i thinkk we should trade battier, rafer, brooks and as much as it kills me too say it hayes and some cash for artest.

we take the best C aviable at our pick.

have a look at gerald green in the summer league.

sign a decent point gaurd too back up franchise.

sign a back up C. diop or malgiore?

get mike miller.

Yao/ Diop / 1st rounder
Scola/ Landry
Artest/ miller / novak
Tmac/ Green
Franchise/ decent PG

now thats about 5 players who could at least avarge 10-15 ppg.

if you cut tmac and yaos numbers too about 35-38 they would stay heathly.

all the teams left have 3 players who can score.

thats all were missing and in a couple of season green could be another scorer

rocketfuel
05-04-2008, 06:32 PM
financially, I'm not sure we would be able to make all those moves, but some of the ideas are interesting.

How much would Diop and Magloire cost?
Unless, we can use Hayes to get someone good then there's no need to get rid of him, he has a cheap contract and he's very useful in terms of doing all the blue collar stuff. By the way, how is Magloire these days...can he still move? I remember that he was really good back in his Hornet days but don't know how he is today.

I hope Francis comes back to full health because he's explosiveness and ability to score could help this team...but until they are sure he's 100%, then the Rockets would have to find a point guard or stick with Alston.

Of course, if we got both Artest and Miller this team would absolutely amazing... though Adelman seems to be in love with Battier. Also financially, I'm not sure how to get both...or even how would get both with the pieces we have..I'm not willing to part with Scola or Landry. The Grizzlies will not trade Miller to get battier. Maybe, we can try to get some star shooter for cheap if they get disgruntled with their team and the team decides it wants to go young and starts to clean house.
I wouldn't mind seeing Green as a pet project...he's got talent and athleticism and won't really cost that much right now.

pippsux
05-04-2008, 06:53 PM
I disagree. With a player of his caliber, not to mention his so called "personality", it's almost never certain on how he will perform during the next season. Although his scenario declines year by year, he is still worth our first option.

Don't get me wrong I am not talking about the caliber of player that he is. He is still a 20 pt scorer 5 assist 5 rebound player, but he his constantly injured. We need a healthy player to make up for our injury prone stars. Artest or Maggette would be a nice addition.

richardle9
05-04-2008, 06:59 PM
sign desagna dip for backup i like him alot

Tmac to da rack
05-04-2008, 07:29 PM
His a free agent? Boy I think Diop would be a very improving backup C if mutumbo retires.

Bushsucks14
05-04-2008, 09:31 PM
Thats a one time event. Your expectation is superior. In my eyes Miller is nothing but a waste of money and head crisis.

Did anyone else on this team had that one time event?

Manos
05-05-2008, 10:57 AM
find us a better PG by now all of you should know the effect of having a quality PG.

that position will and always be the key to rockets success.

Exactly.

connorg3
05-05-2008, 01:27 PM
Again, I don't think we should bring in a old scrub to backup. Magloire...c'mon. Sometime in a franchise you have to make long term management style decisions. We may be less effective in the short term, but would be much better in the long term if you are able to build through the DRAFT. FA's are fun for kids, but if we have truly good talent evaluators and a good GM, getting gems in the draft is the way to go. People are talking about Diop, but Draftxpress has us taking Serge Ibaka, who is like Diop, but younger and with actual basketball skills. If you have a clear need trade some of our players we don't want to teams to position ourselves better in the draft. I would love to see us get Koufos or McGee. Point is this team needs a bit of work, but getting crap players who are disruptive, old or just plain crappy is not going to help.

mac85
05-06-2008, 09:23 PM
We the Rockets need a player like Cuttino Mobley, because drain the 3 pointers if people double on T-Mac or Yao, and he has no problem coming off the bench, and he has playoff experience. Plus he is familiar with the city, Yao, and coach Adelman. He is a team player who can score if he has to he is the missing piece we need. What do you guys think about this?

mac85
05-06-2008, 09:30 PM
I forgot to mention that maybe by getting Cuttino Mobley, Stevie Franchise will go back to being that explosive player that he once was, then we would be unstopable! The best back court duo during the early 2000 decade reuniting will make us one of the best teams in the NBA!

Ballah0liC1
05-06-2008, 11:59 PM
We the Rockets need a player like Cuttino Mobley, because drain the 3 pointers if people double on T-Mac or Yao, and he has no problem coming off the bench, and he has playoff experience. Plus he is familiar with the city, Yao, and coach Adelman. He is a team player who can score if he has to he is the missing piece we need. What do you guys think about this?

definitly not

jgonboricua
05-07-2008, 01:35 AM
would you guys do a loul deng and larry hughes swap for tmac?

Manos
05-07-2008, 08:31 AM
would you guys do a loul deng and larry hughes swap for tmac?

Nah, Deng would be a free agent after this season and then we'd be stuck with Larry's contract. If we could definitely resign Deng for say 10 a year for 4 or 5 years, I'd do it.

NBA-GMaster
05-07-2008, 09:15 AM
Trade RAFER ALSTON, BOBBY JACKSON,LUTHER HEAD,and CHUCK HAYES!!

Sign DeSagana Diop..

NBA-GMaster
05-07-2008, 09:17 AM
All we need is a PG,SF and a C!!

HouRealCoach
05-07-2008, 11:01 AM
All we need is a PG,SF and a C!!

Diop
Mike Miller
Stevie Franchise:D

Or We can S & T for Maggette and give them Alston, Head, Harris

richardle9
05-07-2008, 10:01 PM
i had a dream that we signed josh smith, i woke up i was was so happy cause we signed him then i turned on espn and i realized it was just a dream!!!!

NBA-GMaster
05-08-2008, 05:19 AM
May I ask how can we get Mike Miller via a trade from Memphis??
They dont need a PG..
They need is a PF/C..
:confused::confused::confused:

Russjr2
05-08-2008, 10:26 AM
Hey people face it, we are not looking for a starting PG this offseason. We have 4 on the roster already. Rafer proved his worth this year, he is not going anywhere. B Jax is a good backup and Brooks is coming along fine. Jury is still out on Francis. Somebody will be moved by end of training camp.

Morey will be looking for a talented wing player or players this offseason. If Deke retires, he will look for a backup C (no all star just a serviceable C for 10-15 mins a night). Im sure they will give G Green a spot on the summer league team to show if he has worked on his overall game. Players like M Barnes, Antoine Wright and G Giricek may be good for us. M Miller would be a dream come true but would take big trades to make happen. We just need more size on the wings behind T-Mac and Battier. L Head is gone. I'm sure Adelman has the type of players he needs for his system in mind. Morey wants more talent as well so i don't see us standing pat this off season. This will be another interesting off season.

HouRealCoach
05-08-2008, 12:11 PM
Y does no one want Bonzi back??

NBA-GMaster
05-09-2008, 03:34 AM
Trade Rafer Alston,Bobby Jackson + 1st Round draft pick for Andre Miller + 1st round draft pick..

NBA-GMaster
05-09-2008, 03:39 AM
Will you agree of trading Luther Head for JJ Redick??

NBA-GMaster
05-09-2008, 03:41 AM
Resign Gerald Green..

NBA-GMaster
05-09-2008, 04:04 AM
My Rockets' Roster:
Yao/Diop
Scola/Landry/Hayes
Battier/Green/Novak
McGrady/Redick
Miller/Francis/Brooks

+16th pick and sign J. Hayes or M. Finley or R. Diavis

Renovator
05-09-2008, 11:53 PM
i had a dream that we signed josh smith, i woke up i was was so happy cause we signed him then i turned on espn and i realized it was just a dream!!!!

I hate when that happens. You wake up thinking its all real than get crushed by reality.

Renovator
05-10-2008, 12:12 AM
I would like to sigh Diop. Green cant defend or execute plays. I think we should be set at PG if Franchise can even play at half the level he used to. And Im expecting Brooks to improve as well.

What about Raef LaFrentz. I think he could fit nice offensively but cant bang with the big bodies like Diop can.

We can only fill one of our needs at FA. We can maybe fill one of our needs at Draft if we trade for for a higher pick. The rest will have to be done through trade.

TRADE - BJ, Head, Hayes, we have a 2 mil trade exception as well.

richardle9
05-10-2008, 12:21 AM
I hate when that happens. You wake up thinking its all real than get crushed by reality.

yeah i know i was so excited

rocketfuel
05-10-2008, 07:22 AM
I know it doesn't sound sexy...but most likely the Rockets would improve most likely in the following ways....One way is like what the Hornets did. They didn't make any significant moves this year....all they did was get healthy and have some players develop. They knew they had a good team, but just didn't get to show it the previous years because of injuries to Chris Paul and Peja Stojakovic. David West wasn't the player he is now...and Paul wasn't either. Landry and Scola were rookies and next year they might even be better. Brooks has the possibility of making a dramatic improvement...and having Yao back would certainly change the dynamic of the team, where Scola and Landry can go buck wild because the attention would be on Yao and Tmac. If Francis can make a recovery, he would be a nice surprise.
The other way is to get a hidden gem in the draft or getting some Euro star over here. Free agents are known commodities and come at too high of a price tag...at least with Euro stars, you might be able to get a super talent.

Of course, we can always get lucky with a team that wants to go young and dump their expensive veteran contracts. The Grizzlies are going young, so maybe they will be willing to part with Miller for some picks and young players. I think Miller would make the Rockets incredibly dangerous. He can get open much easier than Head or Novak and would certainly punish defenses for swarming Yao and Tmac. He can provide us with a 3rd scorer and our 3 point shooting marksmen. Diop would shore up the interior, but that's pretty expensive for a backup center as Scola and Landry will take up all the power forward minutes. For Deke's price, you can't get a better player. Even the really mediocre big men are overpaid.... the money's better spent getting a wing/scorer/shooter/defender. I also like TJ Fod and Artest. The Raptors will have to decide who they are willing to pay.....Calderon, Delfino, TJ Ford, etc.... someon's going to be left without a musical chair and maybe we can snatch one up. The Rockets seriously need to upgrade that point guard position if only to keep up with the major contenders in the west, who all seem to have a star point guard. the Kngs might be going young and willing to part with Artest. Other names: Pietrus, Walter Hermaan.

Ballah0liC1
05-10-2008, 10:23 AM
May I ask how can we get Mike Miller via a trade from Memphis??
They dont need a PG..
They need is a PF/C..
:confused::confused::confused:

why not they traded the ten time allstar kwame brown oh wait ten time bum:clap: for gasol

HouRealCoach
05-10-2008, 01:57 PM
why not they traded the ten time allstar kwame brown oh wait ten time bum:clap: for gasol

Yea cause all Memphis want is expiring contracts....Bulls gave them all the talent in the world for Gasol and they didnt want it....B-Jax, Head/Hayes+2nd Rounder will get us Mike Miller

HouRealCoach
05-10-2008, 02:12 PM
My Roster

Alston, Hayes+1st pick for Maggette, Dickau

B-Jax, Head+2nd Rounder for Mike Miller

Battier(Hate to see him go), Brooks for TJ Ford+Cash Considerations(Midseason Trade to see if Francis plays right)

Sign Bonzi, Diop, Green

Yao/ Diop/ Woods
Scola/ Landry/ **sign undrafted PF**
Maggette/ Miller/ Novak
Mcgrady/ Bonzi/ Green
Ford/ Francis/ Dickau

HouRealCoach
05-10-2008, 02:14 PM
Any team in the East can use Battier for Lebron, Pierce, Allen, Carter, Butler, Jefferson, Turkgolu, Lewis, Richardson, Granger, J. Johnson....

rocketfuel
05-10-2008, 09:48 PM
Actually, the Rockets and the Spurs are quietly pursuing Siskausas (not sure spelling). He's a 6'6 wing player that can shoot and was the MVP this season in the Euroleague. God, I hope this is another one of those Morey quiet steals that he's working on. Dam Spurs, though, they seem to sniff out those too.

TMAC111
05-11-2008, 10:29 PM
Rockets need a shooter (mike miller) and a back up C that can play D and maby get 8-12 points a game. As well as i love steve Francise i dont think he can come back and help he really didnt help this season but i might be wrong. Rafer played amazinghe dosent have to be a scorer bcs he gets us into our offence that all PG really needs to do if he can give us 10 points a game its a plus.

G2BOAT
05-11-2008, 10:47 PM
Ramunas Siskauskas, looking on youtube he's got nice speed. Not slow, but not fast. Looks like he can create a shot, and he can drive to the rim. On double teams he finds the open man. This may'be the missing piece.

Russjr2
05-12-2008, 01:54 PM
This is the time of year where some fans get crazy with their trade and FA ideas.....How did I forget.

We will not be getting a near all-star wing player or C this offseason people. Give those ideas up. Artest, M Miller, A Miller (or whatever other PG ya'll like), is not gonna happen. Slim to no chance. We don't have the cap space nor tradeable assets to make a deal like that happen. Memphis has already done the NBAs dumbest trade for the year. We will get a 2nd tier wing or two and/or a backup C. Morey and Les will not scrap this team at this point. If Yao were healthy we would be tied 2-2 with the lakers right now in the 2nd round. All we need are two good backups at SG/SF and a C (depends on Deke) and let Novak, Landry, Brooks, and Scola continue to develop.

Players like C Delfino, A Wright, D Wright, G Green, M Finley (maybe) are in our sight range at this point. Not unless Morey has some tricks up his sleeve...

Tmac to da rack
05-12-2008, 03:03 PM
Baron Davis is going to opt out his final yr this season, anyway we can sign him? He would have to take the midlevel exception 5 mill a paycut, I doubt we get him but anythings possible.

Manos
05-12-2008, 03:25 PM
This is the time of year where some fans get crazy with their trade and FA ideas.....How did I forget.

We will not be getting a near all-star wing player or C this offseason people. Give those ideas up. Artest, M Miller, A Miller (or whatever other PG ya'll like), is not gonna happen. Slim to no chance. We don't have the cap space nor tradeable assets to make a deal like that happen....

1 hour 9 minutes later.......


Baron Davis is going to opt out his final yr this season, anyway we can sign him? He would have to take the midlevel exception 5 mill a paycut, I doubt we get him but anythings possible.

ha

TMacIsNumba1
05-13-2008, 09:36 PM
Elton Brand

Desi Tmac91
05-13-2008, 10:58 PM
I like Lester Hudson in the 2nd round, could be a steal like Landry was. We'll need to work a deal though for a early 2nd round pick.

TMAC94
05-13-2008, 11:09 PM
okay so this is how i go. i would trade bobby jackson, shane battier, and luther head for john salmons and ron artest.

sign gerald green and sign diop and resign deke. make hayes develop offense or make him get up.

Yao/ Diop/ Deke
Scola/ Landry / Hayes
Artest/ Salmons / Novak
Tmac/ Green
Alston/ Franchise/ Brooks

Renovator
05-14-2008, 04:58 AM
What do you guys think of Ricky Davis? He is a good at getting to the rim. When we re-sign Landry, we will only have 2 - 2.5 mil left to play with.

I dont think we can sign Magette, Pietrus or Davis. I dont think Bonzi will play for that much either.

TMAC111
05-14-2008, 05:45 AM
for one the Rockets they dont need to worry about the draft they need to trade them for a shooter not artest 2 much trouble and money. Mike Miller would fit in perfect here hes a shooter and can play both SG and SF whitch works out great for TMAC and Battier. Miller would have o come off the bench but when either of the starters need a sit he can come off and provide instant offence something the Rockets lack of with LUTHER HEAD (get rid of him HOUSTON) so i see it as.

YAO/2nd round draft pick/DEKE
SCOLA/LANDRY/HAYES
BATTIER/MILLER/NOVAK
TMAC/MILLER/ maby GREEN
ALSTON/BROOKS/FRANCISE who i think is done

Rockets Fanatic
05-14-2008, 02:19 PM
Trade for Ron Artest:

Rockets Get:
Ron Artest
2008 2nd Round Pick

Kings Get:
Bobby Jackson
Chuck Hayes
Aaron Brooks
2008 1st Round Pick

Trade For Mike Miller:

Rockets Get:
Mike Miller
Kyle Lowry
2008 2nd Round Pick

Grizzlies Get:
Shane Battier
Steve Francis
Luther Head
2008 2nd Round Pick
2010 1st Round Pick

Sign Rasho Nesterovic to a 2 year $5 million Dollar Contract

Rockets Draft Picks
#34: Mario Chalmers, PG, Kansas
#42: D.J. White, PF, Indiana

Rockets Depth Chart:
PG: Rafer Alston/Kyle Lowry/Mario Chalmers
SG: T-Mac/Mike Miller/Steve Novak/Mario Chalmers
SF: Ron Artest/Mike Miller/Steve Novak/Carl Landry/Mike Harris
PF: Luis Scola/Carl Landry/Mike Harris/D.J. White
C: Yao Ming/Rasho Nesterovic/Luis Scola/Loren Woods

addictsworld
05-15-2008, 10:41 AM
would you guys do a loul deng and larry hughes swap for tmac?

Hell No

Renovator
05-16-2008, 08:00 AM
All the trades proposed for Artest and Miller work out ok in the trade machines. But realistically teams would not give up all star calibre players for 3rd-4th grade players.

BJ, Head, Hayes combined at best will get us a decent role player maybe 2nd grade at best.

Rockets Fanatic
05-16-2008, 03:18 PM
Trade for Ron Artest:

Rockets Get:
Ron Artest
2008 2nd Round Pick

Kings Get:
Bobby Jackson
Chuck Hayes
Aaron Brooks
2008 1st Round Pick

Trade For Mike Miller:

Rockets Get:
Mike Miller
Kyle Lowry
2008 2nd Round Pick

Grizzlies Get:
Shane Battier
Steve Francis
Luther Head
2008 2nd Round Pick
2010 1st Round Pick

Sign Rasho Nesterovic to a 2 year $5 million Dollar Contract

Rockets Draft Picks
#34: Mario Chalmers, PG, Kansas
#42: D.J. White, PF, Indiana

Rockets Depth Chart:
PG: Rafer Alston/Kyle Lowry/Mario Chalmers
SG: T-Mac/Mike Miller/Steve Novak/Mario Chalmers
SF: Ron Artest/Mike Miller/Steve Novak/Carl Landry/Mike Harris
PF: Luis Scola/Carl Landry/Mike Harris/D.J. White
C: Yao Ming/Rasho Nesterovic/Dikembe Motumbo
__________________

Rockets Fanatic
05-16-2008, 04:27 PM
Trade for Ron Artest:

Rockets Get:
Ron Artest
2008 2nd Round Pick

Kings Get:
Bobby Jackson
Chuck Hayes
Aaron Brooks
2008 1st Round Pick

Trade For Mike Miller:

Rockets Get:
Mike Miller
Kyle Lowry
2008 2nd Round Pick

Grizzlies Get:
Shane Battier
Steve Francis
Luther Head
2008 2nd Round Pick
2010 1st Round Pick

Sign Kurt Thomas to a 2 year $4 Million Dollar Contract
Sign Kelenna Azuibuike to a 3 year $6 Million Dollar Contract

Rockets Draft Picks
#34: Mario Chalmers, PG, Kansas
#42: D.J. White, PF, Indiana

Rockets Depth Chart:
PG: Rafer Alston/Kyle Lowry/Kelenna Azuibuike/Mario Chalmers
SG: T-Mac/Mike Miller/Kelenna Azuibuike/Steve Novak
SF: Ron Artest/Mike Miller/Steve Novak/Carl Landry/Mike Harris
PF: Luis Scola/Carl Landry/Mike Harris/D.J. White
C: Yao Ming/Kurt Thomas/Dikembe Motumbo

rocketfuel
05-17-2008, 12:12 AM
Maybe, we can get an idea of who to get rid of by looking at the playoff PER rankings. Look at who were ranked towards the bottom of the playoff PER rankings:

141 Luther Head
133 Bobby Jackson
131 Aaron Brooks
112 Shane Battier
100 Chuck Hayes

I think Head had like a negative...and was 1-14, never hitting a 3 pointer. Bobby Jackson just flat out sucked. What a terrible trade.

Ballah0liC1
05-17-2008, 12:14 AM
This is the time of year where some fans get crazy with their trade and FA ideas.....How did I forget.

We will not be getting a near all-star wing player or C this offseason people. Give those ideas up. Artest, M Miller, A Miller (or whatever other PG ya'll like), is not gonna happen. Slim to no chance. We don't have the cap space nor tradeable assets to make a deal like that happen. Memphis has already done the NBAs dumbest trade for the year. We will get a 2nd tier wing or two and/or a backup C. Morey and Les will not scrap this team at this point. If Yao were healthy we would be tied 2-2 with the lakers right now in the 2nd round. All we need are two good backups at SG/SF and a C (depends on Deke) and let Novak, Landry, Brooks, and Scola continue to develop.

Players like C Delfino, A Wright, D Wright, G Green, M Finley (maybe) are in our sight range at this point. Not unless Morey has some tricks up his sleeve...

the cap space thing is bull**** the celtics have 3 guys making over 15 mil and the lakers trade put the lakers way over the salary cap

cbs134679
05-17-2008, 03:35 AM
Rockets should:

Use LME to resign landry

Use draft pick to sign roy hibbert ,robin lopez or just resign Deke

Use full MLE to sign 1st option Ron Artest- Fits in perfectly with defense and
3rd scoring option,ability to play multiple positions,can
can create his own shot,post up,knock dow 3s, rebound,
and one the strongest players in the league.

2nd option Magette-excellent slasher, one the best at
getting to line, can score different ways off dribble,
has great strength enables him to finish with contact

3rd option Michael pietris-very ahletic,above the rim
finisher,capable 3 point shooter,and attacking the
basket,can also play lock down defense.

4th option Josh childress-long,solid defender, not a bad
3 pinter shooter, can also attack the basket.


Use 100k to sign gerald green back

Use trades:Luther head 2ml expiring
Bobby jackson 6ml expiring
Trade exception 2.4 ml
Future draft picks

For:mike miller, richard jeferson,or kirk hinrich

Russjr2
05-17-2008, 11:35 AM
the cap space thing is bull**** the celtics have 3 guys making over 15 mil and the lakers trade put the lakers way over the salary cap

The Salary Cap is real my friend. This is not baseball. They traded their 1st draft pick (Green) and D West to get Allen (salaries matched up) then they traded 6 players to get KG (had to make the salaries match) and Pierce was already there. They basically gutted their team to get Allen and KG. Do you want to gut our team and see what happens? Celtics will have two game 7s in the eastern conf playoffs.... Did you think that would happen? There is something to be said about chemistry on a team and this is proving it.

All we need is one or two athletic wings that can create and get to the rim to mix in with what we have and we will be fine. And be healthy when May comes. All this talk about trading 5 or six players is not going to happen. Getting Artest and all of that, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN no matter how YOU put it down in the forum. We will find one or two good 2nd tier wing players that will give us what we need. So we can sit back this summer and see what happens. Im sure we will be talking once we make our first FA pickup.

rocketfuel
05-17-2008, 01:27 PM
I get the feeling that this team could have gone toe to toe with the elites of the West if Yao had been available. You can't take away our dominant post presence that draws in double teams, one of the top 6 or 7 shotblockers in the league, top free throw shooter on the team and the top rebounder on the team and not have a huge domino effect on the rest of the team. The team put up a great fight for what they could, but most of the rest of the guys are role players and depend heavily on Yao to draw double teams for them.

Actually, this team could probably land someone like Artest or Miller, but what Alexander and Morey have to ask themselves are: "Are they willing to pay the price?" Alexander will have to pay signficant dollar for dollar luxury taxes. Unfortunately, we don't have that super rich owner that can go too much over the luxury. Alexander is rich....but not for an NBA owner. Also, they have to ask themselves if they really want to win now and sacrifice 3 or 4 years down the road. Say that we go nuts and just go crazy over the salary cap for next year or two...in 3 or 4 years, they would probably have to start cutting down... I actually think that the Rockets should make some bold moves and go for it.
Some of the moves proposed can be made but not at the price tag mentioned. Landry will cost more than the LLE and some of the marquee names will require giving up more players than proposed. I don't think it would be such a bad thing to shake up the team. Sometimes to get the brass ring, you've got to make bold moves and not look back. My only caveat is that we keep Scola and Landry.
It should be:
Yao
Tmac
Scola
Landry

I'm willng to give up anyone else to bring in some major talent. Battier is a valuable asset, but if it means trading him to get someone great then, I'm all for it. That being said, sometimes the best moves are the less sexy moves that didn't seem that big at the time. Ok, we all went nuts when we stole Scola...but in the national media, it just seemed like we traded a disgrunted combo guard that didn't do squat and a second rounder for this Euro guy who was the 55th pick... and then we paid cash for the rights to this 2nd rounder of some guy that some guys weren't sure of (Landry). It turns out that Scola made the first team all rookie team and Landry the second team all rookie team. They were two of the best rookie power forwards this year. I seriously hope that Morey has found another one of these overseas or maybe in the draft.

fredv
05-18-2008, 04:20 AM
After reading EVERY post, I think first of all we should resign landry, deke and take a look at green. After that i really think we should look at the raptors musical chair and try to steal some quality player out of there. Tj Ford with Alston coming off the bench could be terrific.
After we should get miller and a decent backup C to give Yao some time.
I believe we shouldn't trade tmac, yao, scola, rafer , battier or brooks. For the rest: bye, bye, bye.
I dont want to see a kings part 2, so im kind of fed up seeing veterans coming down south.
One last thing, i think we should look at the D-league as well. They have some talent!

TMAC94
05-19-2008, 03:30 AM
i think we should take a look at this guy.
he'll take 2 mil a year i dont tihnk he cares he just wants too rep his hometown look at him ocmone please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TvmLLjEI3E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TvmLLjEI3E&feature=related

this guy isnt a dunker look at those vids he can even shooot the three come one guts!!

fredv
05-19-2008, 06:19 AM
i think we should take a look at this guy.
he'll take 2 mil a year i dont tihnk he cares he just wants too rep his hometown look at him ocmone please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TvmLLjEI3E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TvmLLjEI3E&feature=related

this guy isnt a dunker look at those vids he can even shooot the three come one guts!!


Your obsessed with Gerald Green man.
Give us a break.

When i tap your name in research option I only see gerald green posts...

TMAC94
05-19-2008, 08:23 AM
okay i am sorry then i'll talk about the other things? well first our 3rd opition mike miller or ron ron? well personally i dont think mike miller would be as good as a 3rd option as ron ron would. Mike Miller avarges 16 points 6.4 rebounds 3.2 assits in 35 mins starting 70 games, what is he going too do at houston honestly. at mephis his there best option our best one is tmac or prob yao he'll behind them and worse coz he'll be on bench. he might be good when he comes in for tmac buh i dont think playing along side tmac he will be good. with ron ron we'll have too trade battier, jackson, brooks and picks for ron ron and maybe salmons. we could draft hibbert and our other pick would be at sac. we could have a look at green and try too sign ellis with out MLE. we could trade for ford offer them alston even for him along with head.
our line up would be.

Yao/ Hibbert/ Deke
Scola/ Landry/ Hayes
Artest/ Green/ Novak
Tmac/ Ellis/ Green/ Francis
Ford/ Francis

thats a pretty good line up. tmac wouldnt have too take all the shots lets say he takes 20 shots hits half of them say with yao and artest about 15? we'd be good on D and offense. how about this one?

fredv
05-19-2008, 11:42 AM
it would be great even though i think ellis is a dream... Bcause gstate is going to want to keep him.
We should get Ford though and your right a Tmac backup.

(i actually have Ellis as tmac backup on Nba2K7 and he's great! :-P)

mob16151
05-19-2008, 05:09 PM
If I was rockets GM I'd look into getting a guy who could play the 4 or the 5 spot like Josh McRoberts from portland......see about TJ Ford up in toronto......and see what the grizzlies would take for Miller or the Magic would want for reddick.....other than that get rid of Jackson.....and take a flyer on Green.

Renovator
05-20-2008, 05:18 AM
We definitely need someone to backup Yao, and it shouldnt be DeKe. It would be very handy if he can play PF as well. Then we can get rid of Hayes .

Package Head and Hayes together, to a team who wants an undersized SG and an undersized PF (a challenge for Morey).

TMAC111
05-21-2008, 04:40 AM
You guys who think Artest would be good for Houston need to watch Basketball in general not just the rockets i love the rockets always have and always will, but Artest is a player u take a big risk with he has had trouble with fans, players, and off the court and i think he passed his prime if he ever had one. plus battier is amazing whe healthy the playoffs was a different story. Green i might wana look at but hes one of those players who get traded alot but he could either be a Billups or a Swift. now the mike miller trade needs to happen and to get a back up C bcs DEKE is done we will most likly never see the finger again. as the C in the league i like Brendan Haywood i dont really know just maby but this how i see our roster next year.


PG-Alston/Brooks/francis
SG-TMAC/Miller/Novak or Green
SF-Battier/MIller/Novak depending on Green
PF-Scola/Landry/Hayes
C-YAO/Haywood/


Rockets get rid of LUTHER HEAD and BOBBY JACKSON!!! for sure.

TMAC94
05-24-2008, 03:21 AM
how about trade for ariza his a good Defender. sign green. trade for a scoring option and use rafer and battier in that trade.

oh and under alston2tmac2yao it says his banned? is tat real or did he put it there?

boybronco
05-24-2008, 03:23 AM
how about trade for ariza his a good Defender. sign green. trade for a scoring option and use rafer and battier in that trade.

oh and under alston2tmac2yao it says his banned? is tat real or did he put it there?

The Lakers just traded for Ariza, why would they turn around and trade him again?

flykidd
05-28-2008, 09:47 AM
i am jamaal stephens from providence rhode island i think that the houston rockets should make a good trade like
give up luther head, bobby jackson, landry or luis sculor and get some one like antwaun jamison
or trade luther head and bobby jackson for barbosa from the suns
thats wat i think because we need a third man scorer and both barbosa and jamison can do it and they will both b a good help 2 our team so i hope u take my advice and try some of these trades, becasue i wanna see my favortie player and team get out the frist round this upcoming season

clutchfan
05-28-2008, 08:59 PM
After reading EVERY post, I think first of all we should resign landry, deke and take a look at green. After that i really think we should look at the raptors musical chair and try to steal some quality player out of there. Tj Ford with Alston coming off the bench could be terrific.
After we should get miller and a decent backup C to give Yao some time.
I believe we shouldn't trade tmac, yao, scola, rafer , battier or brooks. For the rest: bye, bye, bye.
I dont want to see a kings part 2, so im kind of fed up seeing veterans coming down south.
One last thing, i think we should look at the D-league as well. They have some talent!

This year we need to get rid of the trash players. So say goodbye to Steve Novak, Chuck Hayes, Mike Harris,Steve Francis,Luther Head,Bobby Jackson,and including Rafer Alston and Shane Battier. You guys might not want to hear this but nether one of these players have ever done anything great for the houston rockets organization and if you ask me they are all scrubs. With these scrub players we will never reach the 2nd round of the playoffs.

TMAC94
05-29-2008, 08:58 AM
do we still need diop even though tat deke is playing on?

Rhyming Rebel
05-29-2008, 10:20 PM
This year we need to get rid of the trash players. So say goodbye to Steve Novak, Chuck Hayes, Mike Harris,Steve Francis,Luther Head,Bobby Jackson,and including Rafer Alston and Shane Battier. You guys might not want to hear this but nether one of these players have ever done anything great for the houston rockets organization and if you ask me they are all scrubs. With these scrub players we will never reach the 2nd round of the playoffs.

Come on cuz dont ever disrespect Steve
im not talkin Novak im talkin bout #3
Now the rest of dem dudes I totally agree
we should been traded Rafer but thats just me
half of our players I dont want to come back
like Chuck Hayes Luther Head, Deke, and BoBby Jax
as far as the 2nd round goes thats whole nother story
but we goin make it just leave it to Rick and Morey

Rockets Fanatic
05-30-2008, 01:19 AM
Trade for Ron Artest:

Rockets Get:
Ron Artest
2008 2nd Round Pick

Kings Get:
Bobby Jackson
Chuck Hayes
Aaron Brooks
#25 Pick

Trade for T.J. Ford:

Rockets Get:
T.J. Ford

Raptors Get:
Rafer Alston
Luther Head

Trade for Leandro Barbosa:

Rockets Get:
Leandro Barbosa

Suns Get:
Shane Battier
Steve Novak

Sign Gerald Green to 2 Year 2 Million $ per year contract

Sign Anthony Carter to a 1 Year 1 Million $ per year contract

Draft Shan Foster with the #42 Pick in the Draft

Houston Rockets Depth Chart:
PG: T.J. Ford/Leandro Barbosa/Anthony Carter/Steve Francis
SG: T-Mac/Leandro Barbosa/Gerald Green/Steve Francis
SF: Ron Artest/Gerald Green/Shan Foster/Mike Harris
PF: Luis Scola/Carl Landry/Mike Harris/Dikembe Motumbo
C: Yao Ming/Dikembe Motumbo/Luis Scola

WntAbCEO
05-30-2008, 11:05 AM
Would you take Jamaal Tinsley and a S&T with David Harrison who is 7'1 very athletic and raw for Bobby Jackson?

Rockets Fanatic
05-30-2008, 04:26 PM
Would you take Jamaal Tinsley and a S&T with David Harrison who is 7'1 very athletic and raw for Bobby Jackson?

Ya, but the Pacers wouldnt do that at all, think reasonably

astrosmaniac
05-30-2008, 05:36 PM
Ya, but the Pacers wouldnt do that at all, think reasonably

wow u of all people say that :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

astrosmaniac
05-30-2008, 05:38 PM
Trade for Ron Artest:

Rockets Get:
Ron Artest
2008 2nd Round Pick

Kings Get:
Bobby Jackson
Chuck Hayes
Aaron Brooks
#25 Pick

Trade for T.J. Ford:

Rockets Get:
T.J. Ford

Raptors Get:
Rafer Alston
Luther Head

Trade for Leandro Barbosa:

Rockets Get:
Leandro Barbosa

Suns Get:
Shane Battier
Steve Novak

Sign Gerald Green to 2 Year 2 Million $ per year contract

Sign Anthony Carter to a 1 Year 1 Million $ per year contract

Draft Shan Foster with the #42 Pick in the Draft

Houston Rockets Depth Chart:
PG: T.J. Ford/Leandro Barbosa/Anthony Carter/Steve Francis
SG: T-Mac/Leandro Barbosa/Gerald Green/Steve Francis
SF: Ron Artest/Gerald Green/Shan Foster/Mike Harris
PF: Luis Scola/Carl Landry/Mike Harris/Dikembe Motumbo
C: Yao Ming/Dikembe Motumbo/Luis Scola

also were u thinking reasonably when u made this? i would love this to happen, but u need to THINK REASONABLY. only the ford trade might acctualy happen. Also, everyone needs to realize that GERALD GREEN SUCKS AND DOESNT DESERVE TO BE ON THE TEAM NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!

Rockets Fanatic
05-30-2008, 06:16 PM
also were u thinking reasonably when u made this? i would love this to happen, but u need to THINK REASONABLY. only the ford trade might acctualy happen. Also, everyone needs to realize that GERALD GREEN SUCKS AND DOESNT DESERVE TO BE ON THE TEAM NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!

i said think reasonable, i meant propose a fair trade. Which he didnt. Do you think i dont know that my idea would happen? Of course I knew it wouldnt happen, but at least i proposed fair trades

TMAC94
06-05-2008, 09:04 AM
ok this is only a opinion so dont go bashing on me if you dont like it.

we'd make 3 trades.


Rockets-Raptors trade.

Rockets Get:
T.J Ford

Raptors Get:
Steve Novak
Bobby Jackson
2nd round pick 08
2nd round pick 09

Rockets-Kings Trade.

Rockets get :
Artest

Kings get:
Rafer Alston
Shane Battier
Aaron Brooks

Wolves-Rockets trade:

Rockets Get:

Rashard McCants
2nd round pick 08 #34

Wolves Get:

Luther Head
Mike Harris
1st Round pick #25
1st Round pick 09.


we'd have too change them some how but i tihnk it could work.

Sign Gerald Green and draft a Centre with our pick from wolves.


T.J Ford/ Francis
TMAC/ Mccants
Artest/ Green
Scola/ Landry/ Hayes
Yao/ Draft Pick/ Deke

thats a pretty good team.

oh btw dont just sign gerald green give him a CHANCE in the summer league and if he plays good then and only then do we sign him.

astrosmaniac
06-05-2008, 11:10 AM
i said think reasonable, i meant propose a fair trade. Which he didnt. Do you think i dont know that my idea would happen? Of course I knew it wouldnt happen, but at least i proposed fair trades

thats the point. those other trades wouldnt be fair value for the other teams so they wouldnt do them

rocketfuel
06-05-2008, 04:37 PM
The Artest trade idea is pretty good....I think I would be ready for a trade for Artest...yes, he has baggage, but he would make the Rockets quite a force. He's the 3rd scorer and he can play on both ends...be tough defensively and also give you 16-20 points. A Yao, Scola/Landry Artest/Tmac frontline would be amazing. I like TJ Ford...but I'm leery of giving up too much because he has been unable to stay healthy so I don't know if it's just bad luck or he really does have some problems. But, talentwise and speedwise, he's awesome.

connorg3
06-05-2008, 05:39 PM
First off, I like Ron Artest. I think he brings a fire and attitude to the game like 'Sheed does. That being said, i see several problems with him coming to the rockets in my opinion.

1. He does have baggage, and not a little bit. People think that RA was able to control him, but the question is whether he'd want to have to do it again. Overall, the guy has an attitude, but not as bad as some we've seen.

2. Right now he doesn't make much. He won't want to continue doing that. He'll want a max deal. We cannot afford a max deal with him. To get him we'd have to give up a good amount i imagine. Not going to happen.

3. Battier and him are the same defender and i'd go as far to say that Battier is better. In the end, Battier is going to continue to be a much more cost effective option. Add in the fact that Battier is a team glue guy. He has received a huge amount of praise for his class and professionalism, much the opposite of Artest.

4. His offense is slightly overrated in my opinion.

I'd much rather see Houston work something out with a Eastern Conf. team like Detroit or Chicago. Just my 2 cents though.

mightybosstone
06-05-2008, 06:28 PM
First off, I like Ron Artest. I think he brings a fire and attitude to the game like 'Sheed does. That being said, i see several problems with him coming to the rockets in my opinion.

1. He does have baggage, and not a little bit. People think that RA was able to control him, but the question is whether he'd want to have to do it again. Overall, the guy has an attitude, but not as bad as some we've seen.

2. Right now he doesn't make much. He won't want to continue doing that. He'll want a max deal. We cannot afford a max deal with him. To get him we'd have to give up a good amount i imagine. Not going to happen.

3. Battier and him are the same defender and i'd go as far to say that Battier is better. In the end, Battier is going to continue to be a much more cost effective option. Add in the fact that Battier is a team glue guy. He has received a huge amount of praise for his class and professionalism, much the opposite of Artest.

4. His offense is slightly overrated in my opinion.

I'd much rather see Houston work something out with a Eastern Conf. team like Detroit or Chicago. Just my 2 cents though.

All very valid points and I agree with every single thing here. Trading Battier and change for Artest will help the offensive game that much, while we'll lose a very important part of this team and arguably the best one on one defender in the NBA. Then we'll have to deal with 3 max contracts and probably cripple ourselves for the future. It's not worth it...

pippsux
06-05-2008, 10:27 PM
Resign Landry
package Head, Battier, Hayes, Jackson,Harris, Brooks, Turbo, clutch, 1st round pick for either Artest or Maggette.

Rockets Fanatic
06-06-2008, 03:14 PM
Rockets Get:
Jason Richardson
Rip Hamilton

Bobcats Get:
Rasheed Wallace

Pistons Get:
T-Mac
Luther Head
#25 Pick

ii77daman
06-06-2008, 03:27 PM
finally some1 agrees with me.....tmac fanatic.....

rockets get j rich and rip = perfect

trade tmac..........i would trade tmac for jus one of those players if possible
for all u tmac loyalists......come on guys.....dudes never made it out the first round! somethings gotta b up......u can make excuses but in the long run....the fact is still there.......i say trade him now while his value is still ok

ii77daman
06-06-2008, 03:28 PM
sorry i meant rockets fanatic trade idea

ii77daman
06-06-2008, 03:34 PM
in reality....the rockets dont really need any1....they jus need landry and scola to improve their midrange short jumpers.....thats there for them all night cause of yaos drawing the double team......since yaos been yao ...(not rookie or first 2-3 years) theres hasnt been some1 to hit that short jumper consistently when teams double yao....and ive said it over n over....yao needs a teammate to do that.............RIP hamilton would b perfect

richardle9
06-06-2008, 05:49 PM
any of you guys know how yao is doing?

Rhyming Rebel
06-06-2008, 06:32 PM
ok this is only a opinion so dont go bashing on me if you dont like it.





Wolves-Rockets trade:

Rockets Get:

Rashard McCants
2nd round pick 08 #34

Wolves Get:

Luther Head
Mike Harris
1st Round pick #25
1st Round pick 09.


we'd have too change them some how but i tihnk it could work.

Sign Gerald Green and draft a Centre with our pick from wolves.


T.J Ford/ Francis
TMAC/ Mccants
Artest/ Green
Scola/ Landry/ Hayes
Yao/ Draft Pick/ Deke

thats a pretty good team.

oh btw dont just sign gerald green give him a CHANCE in the summer league and if he plays good then and only then do we sign him.

2 1st rd picks for McCants and they get luther Head? Hell No:badidea:

mjsparks2345
06-07-2008, 11:06 AM
Sign Diop

Trade Shane Battier and Luther Head for Caron Butler (give the wizards defense and the rockets offense)

Trade Steve Francis for Charlie Villanueva


2008-09 Rockets:

Alston/Brooks/B jax
Mcgrady/C. Butler/B-Jax
C. Butler/Mcgrady/S. Novak/M. Harris
L. Scola/C. Landry/C. Villanueva/M. Harris
Yao/Diop/Mutombo

Just a thought. :D

Thabinator
06-09-2008, 01:37 PM
first of all daryl morey said that the rockets are making moves through trades and not free agency so all those saying we should sign free agents, the market really isnt big, i see a big trade coming, tmac, yao, battier are definetely safe, everyone else could be used, head, jackson will be dealt im sure, we might even move up in the draft from what i hear, rockets definetely are making a move this summer to get that legit 3rd scorer, while maintaining the chemistry this team had this season

how bout michael redd? i think he would be a perfect fit

Chronz
06-10-2008, 03:36 PM
Nvm Delete Post Please

HouRealCoach
06-10-2008, 07:48 PM
Trade Luther Head for Suns 09 1st round pick

HouRealCoach
06-10-2008, 07:52 PM
Shane Battier for Clippers 1st Rounder, Quinton Ross, Josh Powell+Cash

HouRealCoach
06-10-2008, 07:54 PM
Jackson, Head, Landry, 1st Rounder+Cash for Miller, Navarro, M. Gasol

This trade is incase if Landry becomes overpaid

TMAC94
06-13-2008, 10:58 AM
okay, we really do not need too make a huge change that doesnt mean a big change wont happen but seriously we were the 5th seed in the playoffs without playing the last 30 odd games or whatever it was. if he played those game we really could have made it maybe 3rd or 2nd seed? we could be verusing the celtics right now? thats why we should keep: Tmac, yao, battier, scola, landry and brooks( young up and comer)

now we could use some players as trade bait: Alston, harris, novak, jackson, francis, hayes.

obiviously we will keep deke.

now alston is not the worst PG in the league, BUT we could do better. TJ Ford too be honest i've never ever watch a raptors game, and i have never seen the dude play. if his better than rafer i say offer rafer and maybe jackson for him and try too get himm and 2nd rounder.

now we dont need a 3rd scorer like artest or arenas, on there teams atm they are the number one option, arenas talks him self up u think he wants too be a 3rd opition? what we really need is a guy who will come off the bench, like Kyle Korver, Rashard McCants, Jannero Pargo even Mike Miller isnt a long shot off.

if we can get one of these players or anyone who will come off the bench 20-25 mins a night with 10-15 points a game. a real shoter like korver or miller would be best IMO.

GO ROCKETS!

123456789
06-15-2008, 02:32 PM
Tmac, battier, head for deng(s&t), grodon(s&t), nocioni, thomas, noah?

2009 line up
PG - Alston
SG - Gordon
SF - Deng
PF - Thomas
C - Ming

have a backup front line of noah, scola, and nocioni coming off the bench.

mightybosstone
06-15-2008, 02:35 PM
Tmac, battier, head for deng(s&t), grodon(s&t), nocioni, thomas, noah?

2009 line up
PG - Alston
SG - Gordon
SF - Deng
PF - Thomas
C - Ming

have a backup front line of noah, scola, and nocioni coming off the bench.

Jesus... why not just switch teams altogether? Trades this big do not happen.

TMAC94
06-15-2008, 06:18 PM
Tmac, battier, head for deng(s&t), grodon(s&t), nocioni, thomas, noah?

2009 line up
PG - Alston
SG - Gordon
SF - Deng
PF - Thomas
C - Ming

have a backup front line of noah, scola, and nocioni coming off the bench.

then rename the team chicago rockets.

is that the next step?

HouRealCoach
06-16-2008, 10:22 AM
Tmac, battier, head for deng(s&t), grodon(s&t), nocioni, thomas, noah?

2009 line up
PG - Alston
SG - Gordon
SF - Deng
PF - Thomas
C - Ming

have a backup front line of noah, scola, and nocioni coming off the bench.

You would give up Mcgrady, the best defense in the league, a spot up shooter players that couldnt make the playoffs in the east....I hope U dont think they will in the west....Atleast give Rockets the Pick....Terrible

Rockets Fanatic
06-16-2008, 02:20 PM
Houston Gets:
Michael Redd

Milwaukee Gets:
Shane Battier
Bobby Jackson
Luther Head
#25 Pick

cali72888
06-16-2008, 03:10 PM
would you guys be open to trading t mac for baron davis and branden wright?

Rockets Fanatic
06-16-2008, 05:34 PM
would you guys be open to trading t mac for baron davis and branden wright?

How would that help us? But if we could get S-Jax without giving up Shane Battier, I would do that, but that wouldnt happen

htownrockets281
06-16-2008, 05:42 PM
trade mcgrady alston jackson scola for rip wallace and chauncy.

line up
chauncy/francis/brooks
rip/green/head
battier/hayes
wallace/landry
yao/mutombo/woods


what do you guys think? the trade money valuable is even and trade is possible.

htownrockets281
06-16-2008, 05:44 PM
Trade Luther Head for Suns 09 1st round pick

trade mcgrady alston jackson scola for rip wallace and chauncy.

line up
chauncy/francis/brooks
rip/green/head
battier/hayes
wallace/landry
yao/mutombo/woods


what do you guys think? the trade money valuable is even and trade is possible

a_bhee_c
06-17-2008, 12:10 AM
All i can say is give ONE MORE SEASON for yao-tmac combination. (Along with Adelman's system)

Three things that the rockets should do:

1. The team now(whole roster w/ yao and tmac) have already adapted, last season, Rick Adeleman's system, they must only execute it perfectly rather than add and remove one or two role player and and start with him from scratch. I think yao and tmac fits on that system perfectly.(70% sure)

2. Pick and Develop the No. 25 draft usefully to be a good backup for yao(if it is Center) and tmac(if it is SG). in this case, less money will go out for houston's management.

:Develop the draft that will be picked just like laudry,scola and brooks.

3. Make a strategy or plan to keep yao and tmac healthy and can play together full season.

Conclusions:
1. T-mac will survive 1st round and candidate for MVP next season
2. Yao can finish full nba season
3. Rockets can make 60+ win record
4. Battier will win the best defensive player award
5. Adelman will win Coach of the Year
6. No. 25 draft will make it to all-nba rookie team

.: if none of this happened, trade tmac or yao or any other player or fire ADELMAN!!

Percentage: 80-20

Russjr2
06-17-2008, 10:25 AM
We will definitely move one (or two) of our 4 pgs on the roster and probably L Head (at least i think we should). It looks like CDR might be available at our pick in the draft. That would be a very solid pick. We need a real scorer like that off the bench. He can play SG/SF over the long haul. He is a real slasher that attacks the basket and is a crafty scorer. Maybe pick up Courtney Lee in the 2nd round he is pretty good as well. Some team will need to dump salary and that is where our expring contracts may come in handy.

Jay22Redd
06-17-2008, 11:35 PM
Trade Luther Head for Suns 09 1st round pick

I like this trade. But I dont think that they would do this though. So I think we need to through in Bobby Jackson and/or Chuck Hayes.

Then maybe we can get Roy Hibbert or DeAndre Jordan with the 15th pick. With our 25th pick, we should get either Courtney Lee or Chris Douglas-Roberts.

Go to the free agency and pick up Michael Pietrus and either Kelenna Azubuike or Gerald Green.

Lineup:

Rafer/Steve/Brooks
T-Mac/Lee or CDR/Green or Azubuike
Battier/Pietrus/Novak
Scola/Landry/Hayes
Yao/Hibbert or Jordan/Deke

I think this will be a really good squad. What you guys think?

t mac and vick
06-18-2008, 12:16 AM
Get the best doctor money can buy and keep t-mac and yao healthy

123456789
06-19-2008, 05:33 PM
alston and battier for barbosa and diaw? except for this year, both those guys have gone far in the playoffs with the suns. might bring some of that experience in with them. plus when diaw was starting for Amare that one year, he put up good numbers. diaw will be good along side Yao.

The83rdWonder
06-19-2008, 11:34 PM
I like this trade. But I dont think that they would do this though. So I think we need to through in Bobby Jackson and/or Chuck Hayes.

Then maybe we can get Roy Hibbert or DeAndre Jordan with the 15th pick. With our 25th pick, we should get either Courtney Lee or Chris Douglas-Roberts.



Proposed deal is next years pick, not this years.

HouRealCoach
06-23-2008, 04:22 PM
alston and battier for barbosa and diaw? except for this year, both those guys have gone far in the playoffs with the suns. might bring some of that experience in with them. plus when diaw was starting for Amare that one year, he put up good numbers. diaw will be good along side Yao.

I would love that trade

Russjr2
06-30-2008, 02:03 PM
Sign and trade Landry to the bucks for C Villanueva. He is 6'11 and can score the ball from the lane out to the 3 point line. Would be great off the bench for us. Just an idea to put out there...

Russjr2
07-01-2008, 04:21 PM
From the chronicle:
So with that in mind, let's take a realistic sorry, that means no talk of high-priced players like Gilbert Arenas or Baron Davis -- look at the list of unrestricted free agents in an attempt to divine the players who might be on the Rockets' radar screen right now (stats listed are from the 2007-2008 season).

1. The Fan Favorite

Corey Maggette (22.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg, .812 ft%)

Judging by the poll results on the Rockets.com homepage, Maggette is the overwhelming choice of the fans. To be sure, he would seemingly fill one of the team's more pressing needs. The Rockets have made no secret of their desire to find an athletic, slashing wing and few fit that description quite as well as the explosive ninth year veteran from Duke. His ability to get to the line and convert at an 80% clip once he's there makes him mighty attractive to any team in the market for instant offense.

So what's the downside? There are a few issues, actually. First and foremost, it's quite possible, perhaps even likely, that it will require a sign-and-trade to bring Maggette aboard. The Clippers guard made $7 million last season, so unless he's willing to accept a significant pay cut, a sign-and-trade might be the most realistic scenario in which Maggette swaps jerseys. That doesn't make a deal impossible; just far more complex.

Then there are his perceived on-court shortcomings. Fair or not, Maggette has developed a reputation as a somewhat selfish player since ball movement tends to go on the endangered list the second the rock finds its way into his hands; Brandon Roy, he's not. On the other end of the floor, well, let's just say Maggette is not going to win any awards for his defense anytime soon. And did we mention that, on average, he's missed more than 16 games per year throughout his career?

Hey, there's a reason these guys are available on the open market.

2. The Championship Pedigree

James Posey (7.4 ppg, 4.4 rpg, .380 3p%)

His numbers don't jump off the page. But consider this: No other player in the NBA has collected more championship rings over the course of the last three years than James Posey (He has two: One as a member of the '06 Miami Heat and one with the newly-crowned champs from Boston). Obviously Posey was not the driving force behind either one of those teams, but it's likely that neither club could have claimed its title without his clutch contributions.

A prototypical "glue" guy, Posey makes his mark with tremendous defense and timely three point shots. The question is: Would he fit right in, or would his skill set be a bit redundant with Shane Battier already filling a similar role on the Rockets roster?

3. The Question Mark

Mickael Pietrus (7.2 ppg, 1 spg, .361 3p%)

One year ago Pietrus would have been a much hotter name on the free agent market. His Warriors were coming off their electrifying playoff run, and the French forward seemed to be a player on the rise. One season later, Golden State is back to being an also-ran, and Pietrus is searching for answers after watching his minutes and numbers tumble across the board.

No one questions Pietrus's athleticism and he is a willing defender who possesses the tools to one day excel in that role. But if he's not running the floor or spotting up for corner treys, he doesn't give you much value offensively since he can't create off the dribble. In other words, the price will have to be right before the Rockets say "Bienvenue!" to Mickael.

4. The Savvy Vet

Brent Barry (7.1 ppg, 1.7, apg, .429 3p%)

There's no mystery regarding the Rockets' interest here -- The club contacted Barry to kick off the free agent recruiting period. There's also little ambiguity about what the Spurs guard brings to the table: Veteran experience and lights-out three point shooting. Those qualities never go out of style. True, Barry no longer possesses the bouncy athleticism of his youth, but this past postseason (Remember Game 4 vs. the Lakers?) he showed he can still make an important impact off the bench.

5. The Big Man

DeSagana Diop (2.9 ppg, 5 rpg, 1.1 bpg)

What you see is what you get: A 25 year old back-up center who will give you some blocks, some boards and absolutely no offense. But if you assume that means he'll come cheap, think again. Teams always pay for a premium for big men -- even one dimensional giants like Diop -- and word around the league is that Mark Cuban is willing to open up his wallet in order to bring the former Mav back to Dallas.

6. The Homecoming Crew

Bostjan Nachbar (9.8 ppg, 3.5 rpg, .359 3p%)

There probably wasn't a single soul in Houston who would have predicted the possibility of a Boki return when the Rockets' former first round pick was sent packing in 2004. But to his credit, Nachbar has turned himself into a solid NBA player capable of contributing; especially on the offensive end with his sweet outside stroke. Defensively, however, that's another story. Nachbar is a classic tweener who's not quite quick enough to guard the majority of the league's small forwards, and absolutely overmatched when asked to hold his own against physical power forwards.

Robert Horry (2.5 ppg, 2.4 rpg... aww, who are we kidding? There's only one number that matters: 7. As in 7 championship rings)

Actually, come to think of it, there is another number that matters when discussing Horry: 38. That's how old Big Shot Rob will be when the new season begins. Horry has gone on record as saying he'd like to play in Houston if he doesn't re-sign with the Spurs, but what does he have left in the tank? He was a non-factor for San Antonio this past season and showed little to indicate a possible resurgence in 2009.

But would the Rockets consider splurging on a good luck charm if the price was right? For a team that's dealt with more than its fair share of misfortune over the last few years, a little dose of lady luck could prove to be the best bargain of all.

OUfan4life15
07-01-2008, 06:43 PM
Is it possible for us to sign two of those guys, not counting Maggette and Diop as chances are they aren't coming here. Posey we could probably on get him because he'd probably want the full MLE, but would it be possible to get Barry and Horry? I think that would help alot with our bench, much as I dislike Horry, he's got size and can shoot the 3, assuming he doesn't repeat what he did last year.

Wrightw/Reyes19
07-01-2008, 08:53 PM
How bout these deals??

Sign- Maurice Evans Resign- Landry

Francis, Head, Hayes, two future 2nd rd picks- Grizz for Lowry: Gives Alston a young fresh Backup, opposite to last year w/ James or Bjax

Bjax, Hayes 2009 1st - Hawks for Childress: Great scoring Backup to T-mac or Battier

Alston/Lowry/Brooks
T-Mac/Evans
Battier/Childress/Greene
Scola/Landry
Yao/Dorsey/Deke

Jay22Redd
07-02-2008, 03:42 PM
How bout these deals??

Sign- Maurice Evans Resign- Landry

Francis, Head, Hayes, two future 2nd rd picks- Grizz for Lowry: Gives Alston a young fresh Backup, opposite to last year w/ James or Bjax

Bjax, Hayes 2009 1st - Hawks for Childress: Great scoring Backup to T-mac or Battier

Alston/Lowry/Brooks
T-Mac/Evans
Battier/Childress/Greene
Scola/Landry
Yao/Dorsey/Deke

I think we'd be giving up too much.

I'd rather go for Jamal Crawford from the New York Knicks and since Marbury is gone, they might need another point. Then still sign Barry.

Rockets Get:
Jamal Crawford
2009 2nd Round Pick

Knicks Get:
Bobby Jackson
Luther Head

Lineup:

Rafer/Steve/Brooks
T-Mac/Crawford/Barry
Battier/Greene/Novak
Scola/Landry/Dorsey
Yao/Deke/Woods

bball1217
07-02-2008, 04:29 PM
it would be nice to get crawford but i dont think the knicks would also give us a second round pick, we would probably give them a second round pick because crawford had a career year last year

Skilled
07-02-2008, 05:17 PM
trade for kirk hinrich and ron artest

Ballah0liC1
07-03-2008, 02:08 AM
I think we'd be giving up too much.

I'd rather go for Jamal Crawford from the New York Knicks and since Marbury is gone, they might need another point. Then still sign Barry.

Rockets Get:
Jamal Crawford
2009 2nd Round Pick

Knicks Get:
Bobby Jackson
Luther Head

Lineup:

Rafer/Steve/Brooks
T-Mac/Crawford/Barry
Battier/Greene/Novak
Scola/Landry/Dorsey
Yao/Deke/Woods

that actually a great idea only if crawford could be more consistent with his shot selection

TMAC94
07-07-2008, 06:22 AM
does anyone like delonte west? if he doesnt sign back with cavs?

mightybosstone
07-07-2008, 09:23 AM
does anyone like delonte west? if he doesnt sign back with cavs?

I don't know what kind of salary he'd expect, but yeah, I'd like to see him in a Rockets' uniform. If they decide to move Jackson, we'll need a backup PG and he's better than Jackson to begin with. I doubt he doesn't resign with the Cavs.

Wrightw/Reyes19
07-07-2008, 09:43 PM
How about this 3 way deal that works out in the Salary Area??

HOU trades
Alston
Head
B-jax
Hayes

Gets- S Jackson, Mo Williams- Mo is a small upgarde over Alston at the PG spot. Jackson gives us a very good scorer off the bench for T-mac and Battier

GSW trades
Harrington
S Jackson

Gets- Bjax, Alston, Villanueva, Hayes- Two younger fowards in Hayes and Villanueva. Alston takes Baron's spot and Bjax(expiring) can play backup G.

MIL trades
Villanueva
Mo Williams

Gets- Head, Harrington, HOU 09 2nd- Young G to go w/ Sessions and Harrington could start at PF.

Jay22Redd
07-08-2008, 12:09 AM
How about this 3 way deal that works out in the Salary Area??

HOU trades
Alston
Head
B-jax
Hayes

Gets- S Jackson, Mo Williams- Mo is a small upgarde over Alston at the PG spot. Jackson gives us a very good scorer off the bench for T-mac and Battier

GSW trades
Harrington
S Jackson

Gets- Bjax, Alston, Villanueva, Hayes- Two younger fowards in Hayes and Villanueva. Alston takes Baron's spot and Bjax(expiring) can play backup G.

MIL trades
Villanueva
Mo Williams

Gets- Head, Harrington, HOU 09 2nd- Young G to go w/ Sessions and Harrington could start at PF.

Id like it

stevefrancis
07-08-2008, 12:54 AM
yea you guys keep dreaming of fantasy trades that teams will never do. we get a bunch of nice players for crap players that are old and would be a 12th man on other teams. why would other gms do these trades?

bball1217
07-08-2008, 01:14 PM
If Denver has a poor season, maybe during mid season the Rockets and Nuggets could make this trade: (Plus some draft picks)

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=366~2770~11~255~2834~2763~376&teams=10~10~7~7~7~7~7&te=&cash=
(Or we can substitute some of these players for a young rookie, like Donte Green, if the Nuggets are interested in him)

Denver gets: 3 expiring contracts, 2 Contracts with just 2 years left and draft picks
Houston gets: Another elite player and a solid back up in Klieza

Even though Iverson's contract is going to expire next year the Nuggets get some draft picks and expiring contracts as well.

Note: Trade only works if Denver has a bad season, would be a trade deadline deal.

Alex-sama
07-09-2008, 06:49 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2166~2167~255~2834~2763~376~17 81&teams=10~10~21~21~21~21~21&te=&cash=

How about this trade?
We can get a great SG (OK he's undersized but his 3 points is deadly and willing to play the six man role) and a good PF with a lot of potential and they can get 2 backup PG and a steady PF

Jay22Redd
07-09-2008, 08:14 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2166~2167~255~2834~2763~376~17 81&teams=10~10~21~21~21~21~21&te=&cash=

Sorry, but i dont like this trade at all. I would never do this

Alex-sama
07-09-2008, 08:31 PM
why not?

McBui6997
07-10-2008, 03:04 AM
i dunno bout y'all
but i would say this trade

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=976~255~2834~2763~532~63~294~1 724&teams=8~8~8~8~8~10~10~10&te=&cash=

Jay22Redd
07-10-2008, 06:04 AM
why not?

Thats not what's going to get tha Rockets to tha next level.

and personally; I think Scola is better than Diaw

Alex-sama
07-10-2008, 06:59 AM
Thats not what's going to get tha Rockets to tha next level.

and personally; I think Scola is better than Diaw

What do you mean that won't get Rocekts to the next lvl? Barbosa is a great shooter with a lot of speed. That's what we are looking for. The only thing he misses is size. That's why he is a great sixth man. He can be sort Ginobli in our style. Diaw is a better shooter than Scola close and mid range and he is a lot younger than Scola. Scola has a lot european exp, but Diaw has more NBA exp and playoff exp. They both are an upgrade for Rockets. The most important thing is with this trade we don't need to touch our core players. Why not?????????

PG: Alston/Brooks
SG: T-Mac/Barbosa/Greene
SF: Battier/Harris/Novak
PF: Diaw/Landry/Dorsey
C: Yao/Mutumbo/Woods

nickymintz
07-11-2008, 05:03 AM
Jamaal Tinsley's contract will likely be bought out by the Pacers, meaning there's almost no chance he plays another game for the team.
Indy Star columnist Bob Kravitz said on the radio that he would "walk to Kokomo if Tinsley was in a Pacers uniform on opening night." Kokomo is 53 miles due north of Indy. And when Kravitz mentioned this to Pacers coach Jim O'Brien, he laughed and said, "If Jamaal is still with us, I'll walk to Kokomo with you." Obviously, the Pacers are either going to trade Tinsley and his ridiculous contract (3 years, $21 million - not likely) or buy him out.
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shinjirod
07-11-2008, 12:18 PM
What do you mean that won't get Rocekts to the next lvl? Barbosa is a great shooter with a lot of speed. That's what we are looking for. The only thing he misses is size. That's why he is a great sixth man. He can be sort Ginobli in our style. Diaw is a better shooter than Scola close and mid range and he is a lot younger than Scola. Scola has a lot european exp, but Diaw has more NBA exp and playoff exp. They both are an upgrade for Rockets. The most important thing is with this trade we don't need to touch our core players. Why not?????????

PG: Alston/Brooks
SG: T-Mac/Barbosa/Greene
SF: Battier/Harris/Novak
PF: Diaw/Landry/Dorsey
C: Yao/Mutumbo/Woods


Diaw is definitely not an improvement over Scola. The team reached a new level when he came into the lineup. Its not a coincidence the streak started when he got on the starting 5. Scola is a great forward, and with more time will have as much impact for the Rockets, as Ginobili had for the Spurs.

Alex-sama
07-11-2008, 02:22 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2166~3192~255~2834~2763&teams=10~21~21~21~21&te=&cash=

How about this then? We don't need to move Scola and we still get barbosa. But the only question is will the suns ever accept this trade? On the other hand they will get 3 diffenrent type backup PG they are looking for. Young talent and proven vets. But then we will lose depth at PG. Barbosa can play PG but he isn't a real PG that's why the suns want another backup PG.

PG: Alston/Bjax
SG: T-Mac/Barbosa/Barry
SF: Battier/Greene/Harris/Novak
PF: Scola/Landry/Dorsey
C: Yao/Mutumbo/Woods

Russjr2
07-11-2008, 03:29 PM
What do you mean that won't get Rocekts to the next lvl? Barbosa is a great shooter with a lot of speed. That's what we are looking for. The only thing he misses is size. That's why he is a great sixth man. He can be sort Ginobli in our style. Diaw is a better shooter than Scola close and mid range and he is a lot younger than Scola. Scola has a lot european exp, but Diaw has more NBA exp and playoff exp. They both are an upgrade for Rockets. The most important thing is with this trade we don't need to touch our core players. Why not?????????

PG: Alston/Brooks
SG: T-Mac/Barbosa/Greene
SF: Battier/Harris/Novak
PF: Diaw/Landry/Dorsey
C: Yao/Mutumbo/Woods

Diaw and Barbosa are the main two reasons the Suns never beat the spurs. They ALWAYS disappear come playoff time versus the spurs. Same thing this past year. Diaw had one good game where he asserted himself and they won that game. Barbosa goes silent against the spurs EVERY year. Look at the stats if you don't believe me. No way Diaw should allow Finley and Manu to guard him around the paint, but for whatever reason, he does. They both get one last chance under new coach porter, if they don't produce consistently, they will be gone next summer I guarantee it!

nickymintz
07-11-2008, 08:33 PM
Chauncy Billups PG
Rip Hamilton SG
James Posey SF
Luis Scola PF
Yao Ming C

Carl Landry PF
Brent Barry SG
Aaron Brooks PG
Donte Green SF
Joey Dorsey PF
Deke Mutombo C
Desmond Mason SF
Earl Boykins PG
Kurt Thomas C
JJ Reddick SG

What do yall think of this team?

Alex-sama
07-11-2008, 08:55 PM
Moving T-Mac is not done!!!!! We just begin to get good chemstry we don't need to blow up the team right now......
Strengthen our bench is our top pirority right now. With Greene, Dorsey and Barry our bench is getting stronger.
I still suggest get barbosa becuz of his speed and deadly 3 points. And about he's invisible in the playoff he still get more points than head, BJax and brooks together last playoff :/

Wrightw/Reyes19
07-12-2008, 11:29 AM
We need to make a move for either Hinrich or Artest. Then we will have complete chemistry

Alston
T-mac
Artest
Scola
Yao

or
Hinrich
T-mac
Battier
Scola
Yao

Jay22Redd
07-12-2008, 01:07 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2166~3192~255~2834~2763&teams=10~21~21~21~21&te=&cash=

How about this then? We don't need to move Scola and we still get barbosa. But the only question is will the suns ever accept this trade? On the other hand they will get 3 diffenrent type backup PG they are looking for. Young talent and proven vets. But then we will lose depth at PG. Barbosa can play PG but he isn't a real PG that's why the suns want another backup PG.

PG: Alston/Bjax
SG: T-Mac/Barbosa/Barry
SF: Battier/Greene/Harris/Novak
PF: Scola/Landry/Dorsey
C: Yao/Mutumbo/Woods

Sorry but I think this is horrible as well. Why give up three players we actually use for one guy. I understand you trying to give up Francis but not Hayes, Head and Brooks

Alex-sama
07-12-2008, 06:41 PM
I don't want to get rid of brooks either but or else it wouldn't be interesting enought for the suns to trade with us. May-b next year firstround pick instead of brooks.

About Hayes, Head, and Francis:

Hayes: With Scola, Landry, Dorsey we doesn't really need him
Head: Barbosa shoot a lot better and is a lot faster than him
Francis: IF he get back to his old lvl he will be a strong bench player or even starter but the problem is he's getting older and very injury prone. Barbosa is eqaul or even better than his old lvl

stevefrancis
07-12-2008, 06:51 PM
the rockets need to get artest because if the lakers or spurs get him then we have no chance in beating them. you can't say dorsey greene brookes are gonna make such an impact that we can beat those teams with artest.

Alex-sama
07-15-2008, 06:53 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2166~25~3192~2834~2763~376~301 8&teams=10~10~23~23~23~21~23&te=&cash= + 2009 1st round pick to Suns

This would be a dream but if it's possible it would be VERY VERY nice

PG: Alston/Francis
SG: T-Mac/Barbosa/Barry
SF: Artest/Battier/Greene/Harris
PF: Scola/Landry/Dorsey
C: Yao/Mutumbo/

TMAC94
07-15-2008, 08:04 PM
^^ a dream that will surely never come true.

Alex-sama
07-15-2008, 09:57 PM
^^ a dream that will surely never come true.

Let's hope Morey can do miracles :D
Something like Lakers with the Gasol deal

rocketfuel
07-26-2008, 03:32 PM
You never know maybe there's something already in the works. I wonder how good Brooks can be in his second year....sometimes it takes a point guard or any other rookie time to develop and they explode on the scene in their second and third year. I think Francis still has that talent that made him an allstar....I just don't what his health is like right now. We need to solve our backup center position...we have some terrifc forwards...but none of them are over 6'9"...so they really can't play center (legitimately).... Hayes (6'5") at center is ridiculous.

Alex-sama
07-26-2008, 08:27 PM
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247862&page=2

newest idea of mine :D

rocketfuel
07-30-2008, 07:10 PM
Sam Cassell?

Houston, San Antonio and Dallas are reportedly interested in him.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2008/07/01/posey_is_celtics_top_target/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Boston+Celtics+news

Rockets Fanatic
08-02-2008, 03:30 PM
Rockets Get:
Josh Boone

Nets Get:
Luther Head

Boone becomes backup center

bball1217
08-02-2008, 03:56 PM
This will sound crazy, but you never know...

ONLY if the Suns are doing poorly and decide to trade Nash or Nash requests a trade, then I would love to see the Rockets do this trade:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=592~11~3081~2834~2763~3018&teams=10~21~21~21~21~21&te=336:10-901&cash=

I realize, this will probably never happen, but in that trade suns get a point guard still and some young talent to work with, along with contracts going no longer than 2 years.

Could you imagine a lineup of:
Nash/Barry/Brooks
McGrady/Battier/Barry
Artest/Hill/Battier
Scola/Landry
Yao/Mutumbo/Dorsey
Reserves:
Francis (Rotates with Brooks)
Maarty Leunen (Bring him from overseas/D-League)
(Sign free agent to fill roster at minimum)

This trade would only works if:
1. Suns doing poorly.
2. Alston not performing well enough (which I doubt he will).
3. Suns decide to blow it up and/or Nash requests trade.

This trade gives the suns a young and talented Novak and Head and hustle players in Hayes and Harris. Also they get a point guard still.

We could also include a 2010 second or first round pick, depending on how much the suns want.

A man can dream... ;):D

IversonIsKrazy
08-06-2008, 07:05 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...~7~7&te=&cash=

that wud b krazzzy.

PG: AI/Brooks
SG: T-Mac/Head
SF: Artest/Barry
PF: Landry/Doresy
C: Yao/Mutombo

CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!!

IversonIsKrazy
08-06-2008, 07:08 PM
Houston Gets:
AI

Denver Gets:
Shane Battier
Luis Scola
Rafer Alston
Steve Francis

Jay22Redd
08-06-2008, 10:56 PM
Houston Gets:
AI

Denver Gets:
Shane Battier
Luis Scola
Rafer Alston
Steve Francis

Three of those players are big parts of our team

leonardpatrick
08-12-2008, 03:34 AM
if dikembee mutombo will not sign, then, trade chuck hayes and mike harris for chris mihm. chris mihm is a good player especially when he is healthy. if not sign jamaal magloire and bring back bonzi wells.

leonardpatrick
08-12-2008, 03:47 AM
trade rafer alston for derek fisher.
sign & trade carl landry for david lee.
bring back robert horry
sign dorsey

yao/scola/artest/mcgrady/francis
lee/horry/head/battier/barry/brooks/fisher/dorsey/mutombo(if he will sign)

cbs134679
08-12-2008, 04:39 AM
Trade chuck hayes and head for jeff foster to give us more roster space and a backup center.

Rockets Fanatic
08-16-2008, 03:16 PM
Another idea is

Toronto Gets:
Ben Gordon
Cedric Simmons

Chicago Gets:
Anthony Parker
Jason Kapono
Kris Humphries
Joey Graham

then the Raptors trade for Sean Singletary, Pat ewing jr, Luther Head, Mike Harris and Chuck Hayes for 1 1st Rounder and 3 2nd Rounder

Jay22Redd
08-17-2008, 12:40 AM
I like the Head for Sean Williams swap

bossup2
08-17-2008, 09:34 PM
im a detroit fan and i know you dont wanna give up tmac but what about this

houston gets: billups, prince and 2nd rd pick
detroit gets: tmac

detroit offered this to denver for melo and they turned it down do u think ur GM would turn it down

goku
08-17-2008, 09:45 PM
im a detroit fan and i know you dont wanna give up tmac but what about this

houston gets: billups, prince and 2nd rd pick
detroit gets: tmac

detroit offered this to denver for melo and they turned it down do u think ur GM would turn it down

now that we have artest theres no need for the trade

Jay22Redd
08-17-2008, 10:04 PM
im a detroit fan and i know you dont wanna give up tmac but what about this

houston gets: billups, prince and 2nd rd pick
detroit gets: tmac

detroit offered this to denver for melo and they turned it down do u think ur GM would turn it down

No. That trade doesnt make us any better. It makes us worse just like before.

Rhyming Rebel
08-18-2008, 12:13 AM
We need to trade Luther Head

goku
08-18-2008, 01:06 AM
luther head for 2nd round pick

cbs134679
08-21-2008, 05:40 AM
I think the most realistic trade for a backup center would be head for david harrison from the pacers. The salaries match and they already have foster, murphy, and hibbert at center, plus they like to shoot alot of 3s so head should fit in perfectly.

Jay22Redd
08-21-2008, 04:44 PM
I think the most realistic trade for a backup center would be head for david harrison from the pacers. The salaries match and they already have foster, murphy, and hibbert at center, plus they like to shoot alot of 3s so head should fit in perfectly.

David Harrison???

No Thanks.

shehzar167
09-12-2008, 06:39 PM
Houston have traded away their picks for the future. They wont be drafting at their will this time, but with the extra players Houston has, and cut the money, Houston should go after a multiple second round picks for the next 2 3 years. If needed those are a good trade bait and package in the near future aswell.