PDA

View Full Version : Lakers getting Luther Head?



#24 Lakerland
06-20-2007, 02:40 AM
Chron- (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/lopez/4904423.html)
And the Los Angeles Lakers are contemplating a deal involving Head in exchange for power forward Brian Cook (6-9, 250 pounds).

I personally would love for this to happen. DO IT MITCH

CalJo1617
06-20-2007, 02:42 AM
:pray:

Kobeeeeee24
06-20-2007, 02:42 AM
:D please let it be true :pray:

E-ROC
06-20-2007, 02:48 AM
Chron- (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/lopez/4904423.html)

I personally would love for this to happen. DO IT MITCH

He better get it done. Cook can't do anything but shoot. I wonder how long he's been thinking about this deal.

lalaland2007
06-20-2007, 02:50 AM
dang us fans wouldnt mind that

since they acquire Mike James, and lost J howard, It makes sense

Throw in a 2nd rd pick and head is our man!!

i think it may be true!

Kobeeeeee24
06-20-2007, 02:53 AM
this might be the start of mitch's master plan to lure kobe back :pray:

LakerDeftones
06-20-2007, 02:56 AM
What happens to Farmar??

Do we still sign a PG for the MLE

MO?

If not we have to young players for our PG's

But Head has proven he can play, he played alot his rookie year cause of an injury so he got a lot minutes if i remember correctly

And Farmar has real potential, not sasha/kwame Potential

So where does the mle goto?

3's set u free
06-20-2007, 02:57 AM
Head for Cook would be unreal. Head would be a nice PG for us, I think he could probably start. If this is the case, sign off on the JO and Murphy deal right away, then go for Artest.

Head/Farmar
Kobe/Evans
Artest/Radman
JO/Turiaf
Murphy/Mihm

THat is a championship roster, possilby even the favorites.

lalaland2007
06-20-2007, 03:02 AM
I personally would not trade bynum n odom for Jo

its a deal that has died down already

as 4 artest, no guarantee he will behave this year

he may make headlines, by threatening a grocery store cashier to empty the register or crash his rover into the santa monica peir

thestones
06-20-2007, 03:03 AM
Head - 06-07 .441% 3 points .10.9 ppg
cook 06 -07 .400% 3 points 6.9 ppg

this is a no brainer, we need a pure shoter, head is that guy and hes quicker i have never liked cook i hope this goes down.

also pardom m ignorance but im still semi new, how does one get a sig, do you have to post a sertain amount?

LakerDeftones
06-20-2007, 03:05 AM
Head for Cook would be unreal. Head would be a nice PG for us, I think he could probably start. If this is the case, sign off on the JO and Murphy deal right away, then go for Artest.

Head/Farmar
Kobe/Evans
Artest/Radman
JO/Turiaf
Murphy/Mihm

THat is a championship roster, possilby even the favorites.

bold = defensive players

underline = semi-defensive

murphy at center though? :speechless:

thestones
06-20-2007, 03:05 AM
troy murphy at center does not cry championship favorite to me

Kobeeeeee24
06-20-2007, 03:06 AM
Head - 06-07 .441% 3 points .10.9 ppg
cook 06 -07 .400% 3 points 6.9 ppg

this is a no brainer, we need a pure shoter, head is that guy and hes quicker i have never liked cook i hope this goes down.

also pardom m ignorance but im still semi new, how does one get a sig, do you have to post a sertain amount?

yes, you need to have at least 100 posts.

and WELCOME TO THE LAKERS FORUM
don't be scared, only a few bite :D.
hope you stay and have fun posting here.

#24 Lakerland
06-20-2007, 03:07 AM
bold = defensive players

underline = semi-defensive

murphy at center though? :speechless:
Jo can get the superstar players

QBRONX
06-20-2007, 03:11 AM
head would be one heck of an addition ! do it mitch

3's set u free
06-20-2007, 03:14 AM
troy murphy at center does not cry championship favorite to me

Well I guess you can't look at one role in the lineup instead of the whole thing.

Did Samaki Walker spell championship contender to you????

thestones
06-20-2007, 03:16 AM
thanks for the help kobeeeee24

just got back from angel game though they lost it was tight i caught a foul ball,

i digress

here is luther dunking on our man ronny, i dont think i have ever seen cooky dunk, letsgethis guy mitch

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uGFuNfI9gAw

fast_break
06-20-2007, 03:20 AM
yah, "give us head" :D

LakerDeftones
06-20-2007, 03:27 AM
What Does Everybody Want!?

Head!!!!!!

(anyone remember who said that)

MickeyMgl
06-20-2007, 03:29 AM
For goodness' sake, what's there to "contemplate"!?!!!?

Do these guys have to consult their Magic 8 Ball before a trade can be done? I swear, it's like they're doing "best four out of seven" or something like that.

Probably consulting tea leaves, too. Geeeeezus!

E-ROC
06-20-2007, 03:31 AM
You can use the MLE on Joe Smith and Devin Brown or Jannero Pargo. But if we don't get Artest, why not use the MLE on Ruben Patterson assuming Luther Head is our PG?

MickeyMgl
06-20-2007, 03:32 AM
this might be the start of mitch's master plan to lure kobe back :pray:

Or (more likely, knowing Mitch and Jim) it's the whole plan.

scratch
06-20-2007, 03:36 AM
And I said it biatches:

I WANT SOME HEAD DAMN IT! :mad:

MickeyMgl
06-20-2007, 03:36 AM
bold = defensive players

underline = semi-defensive

murphy at center though? :speechless:

Say what you will about Murphy's man-to-man defense (which isn't good), but he REBOUNDS, and that helps defense. How many times did the Lakers get burned on 2nd and 3rd shots?

lakerboy
06-20-2007, 03:36 AM
OOOOOOH YEAAH
bye bye Cookie!

3's set u free
06-20-2007, 03:39 AM
You can use the MLE on Joe Smith and Devin Brown or Jannero Pargo. But if we don't get Artest, why not use the MLE on Ruben Patterson assuming Luther Head is our PG?

HAHA. The Kobe Stopper????

scratch
06-20-2007, 03:42 AM
trade Doesn't work, salaries don't match! GOOoooodddNiigghht FoolKs!

laker24fan
06-20-2007, 03:43 AM
Mitch aint trading for nobody good. And if we do get head hell end up being sorry. Every shooter we get always suck when they come to the lakers

thestones
06-20-2007, 03:44 AM
ruben is a sex offender, kobe is a rapist, artest is a wife beater we could have a solid team if we played in the prision league

firouz
06-20-2007, 03:45 AM
yeah that is a no brainer... and we could still try to sign a PG we can never have too much.... and Head can be the first guy off our bench to bring a spark... we need a bench

lakerboy
06-20-2007, 03:46 AM
trade Doesn't work, salaries don't match! GOOoooodddNiigghht FoolKs!

Maybe they are throwing Vassilis Spanoulis, or Justin Reed

#24 Lakerland
06-20-2007, 03:46 AM
trade Doesn't work, salaries don't match! GOOoooodddNiigghht FoolKs!
Trade Exceptions.....DUH

Kobeeeeee24
06-20-2007, 03:49 AM
Trade Exceptions.....DUH

double duh

E-ROC
06-20-2007, 03:50 AM
HAHA. The Kobe Stopper????

Hey, he can play some D which we need. Plus we would not have to trade for anybody.


ruben is a sex offender, kobe is a rapist, artest is a wife beater we could have a solid team if we played in the prision league

That's not even remotely funny.

dodgerhawk31
06-20-2007, 03:59 AM
What Does Everybody Want!?

Head!!!!!!

(anyone remember who said that)

Al Snow :p

Faycem
06-20-2007, 04:00 AM
What happens to Farmar??

Do we still sign a PG for the MLE

MO?

If not we have to young players for our PG's

But Head has proven he can play, he played alot his rookie year cause of an injury so he got a lot minutes if i remember correctly

And Farmar has real potential, not sasha/kwame Potential

So where does the mle goto?


Maybe Nocioni? And then, try to sign and trade walton for someone else? :shrug:

LakerDeftones
06-20-2007, 04:09 AM
gerald wallace!! lol

LakerDeftones
06-20-2007, 04:09 AM
Al Snow :p

bingo!! :clap:

thepaul
06-20-2007, 04:10 AM
Head for Cook is a no brainer!!

Do it NOW!!!

lewis
06-20-2007, 04:42 AM
This trade would be awesome. I was thinking about it a few months ago, but i didnt think the rockets would want to do it. Maybe it makes sense now that they have mike james back...

still its a steal for the lakers. Head is a combo guard who can play pg, shoot the lights out, and play some solid defense.

a great pickup for the lakers.

Cook might help the rockets in spacing the floor for yao and tmac from the pf position.

Hopefully the rockets dont notice that cook sucks at defense, sucks at rebounding, and has no post moves.

ruven
06-20-2007, 05:09 AM
This trade would be AWESOME... and it might make sense now that the Rockets are stacked at guard.

Head would solve all our PG problems.
Sure he is a scoring PG, not much of a playmaker, and only average defender... but all that is leagues better than what we have currently.
Specially with that awesome 3 point range.

DO IT MITCH!

LakerDeftones
06-20-2007, 05:17 AM
This trade would be AWESOME... and it might make sense now that the Rockets are stacked at guard.

Head would solve all our PG problems.
Sure he is a scoring PG, not much of a playmaker, and only average defender... but all that is leagues better than what we have currently.
Specially with that awesome 3 point range.

DO IT MITCH!

can he be fulltime starter?
would a rotation of Head and Farmar help us, or do we still go for MO

hammerhead
06-20-2007, 05:23 AM
Who is he? Never heard of him

ruven
06-20-2007, 05:28 AM
can he be fulltime starter?
would a rotation of Head and Farmar help us, or do we still go for MO

Yes, thats good enough.
We can use the MLE for a guy like Nocioni or an upgrade at another SF.
Lots of nice SF's out this season.

borat
06-20-2007, 05:32 AM
LOL @ contemplating. Is there another deal on the table that may involve Cook? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

ruven
06-20-2007, 06:37 AM
Its COOK for petes sake.

He is next to worthless on this team.
I would trade him for Smush Parker....

Ok maybe thats pushing it a bit :D

Hellcrooner
06-20-2007, 06:41 AM
Can houston gms be SO STUPID?

please lord let it be true, so we have the PG thing solved cheaply and we can focus on getting a good SF and a good PF in the other trades.

Hellcrooner
06-20-2007, 06:42 AM
and ruven i WOULD deal him for Smush :p

LakerDeftones
06-20-2007, 08:04 AM
Yes, thats good enough.
We can use the MLE for a guy like Nocioni or an upgrade at another SF.
Lots of nice SF's out this season.

another sf?

we have Luke, Radman, and kinda evans, and odom

Well basically Luke and Radman

why would we need another SF?

though i wouldnt mind nocioni at all

we can probably get Maglorie

JO/Mag/Mihm
Murphy/Turiaf
Luke/Radman/vet
Kobe/Evans/1st
Head/Farmar/Sasha

we are an upgrade in our pg spot and center spot

kobe81
06-20-2007, 09:06 AM
Head would be a huge step on the right direction for us as he plays both ends and hits shots. remember he played in big games in college too so that should help. Cook would help houston as they now have rick adleman who loves shooters and the just got mike james. this TWEAK alone should add maybe 3 more wins for LA. so we're 45-37 now. JO without giving up Bynum will add 10 more so we're 55-27. then Bynum averages a dbl dbl adds 5 more wins. So we're 60-22. Phil healthy=3 more wins. 63-19.

Kobe for MVP

lakersrock
06-20-2007, 09:34 AM
another sf?

we have Luke, Radman, and kinda evans, and odom

Well basically Luke and Radman

why would we need another SF?

though i wouldnt mind nocioni at all

we can probably get Maglorie

JO/Mag/Mihm
Murphy/Turiaf
Luke/Radman/vet
Kobe/Evans/1st
Head/Farmar/Sasha

we are an upgrade in our pg spot and center spot

Rad is a PF. He isn't a SF at all.

Head/Farmar/Sasha
Kobe/Evans/Sasha
Nocioni/Walton/Sasha
Murphy/Vlad/Turiaf
JO/Mihm/Davis (40)

drubynum
06-20-2007, 09:44 AM
i think people on here severely overestimate troy murphy.
why would anybody want him? he is making around 11 million next year,
and averages 10 points and 6 boards, while whoever he guards ( or i should
say tries to guard) goes off for career highs.

chomaru
06-20-2007, 09:44 AM
Al Snow :p

Al Snow and Steve Blackman FTW

Head Cheese

lakersrock
06-20-2007, 09:47 AM
i think people on here severely overestimate troy murphy.
why would anybody want him? he is making around 11 million next year,
and averages 10 points and 6 boards, while whoever he guards ( or i should
say tries to guard) goes off for career highs.

His career average is actually around 10 and 8. That makes him a double double threat at anytime. Also, most teams only have one really good low post guy, so put JO on that player.

chomaru
06-20-2007, 09:58 AM
I dont mind Cook but he has to go after the whole dropping his warm-up pants in Jackson's lap

drubynum
06-20-2007, 10:22 AM
His career average is actually around 10 and 8. That makes him a double double threat at anytime. Also, most teams only have one really good low post guy, so put JO on that player.

so if his career avg is 10 and 8 and last season it was 10 and 6, essentially
what you are saying is that he is on his downside already

chomaru
06-20-2007, 10:26 AM
so if his career avg is 10 and 8 and last season it was 10 and 6, essentially
what you are saying is that he is on his downside already

he wasnt getting as many minutes

lakersrock
06-20-2007, 10:29 AM
he wasnt getting as many minutes

...and he was still able to get the 10 and almost the 8. :clap:

drubynum
06-20-2007, 10:35 AM
he wasnt getting as many minutes

if your not getting minutes with the pacers, you know you suck

lakersrock
06-20-2007, 10:41 AM
if your not getting minutes with the pacers, you know you suck

Pacers F-C
JO
Granger
Diogu
Murphy
Foster
Marshall
Williams
Baston
Harrison
Edwards

That's alot of people. Everybody at least gets some during the year, so it's naturally gonna cut minutes from everybody.

DC Laker
06-20-2007, 11:04 AM
I think you guys are underestimating Cook if you think this is purely a steal for the Lakers...

I think we should do this deal in a second, BUT Cook will be a great fit for them.
He NEVER needs to be in the post, because that is ALL YAO.
He never needs to create anything, that is ALL McGrady...
He can just stnd he butt in a corner and shoot when Yao or McGrady is doubled.

PLUS it creates a problem for other teams that want to double Yao with a second big man, because Yao can simply shoot over or pass over a double teaming guard... So double with the big man, when he is responsible for Cook??? That would be dangerous...

This deal actually is one that makes a LOT of sense for both teams...

Just don't be surprised next season when Cook is averaging 10 and 5. He will be...

Musashi
06-20-2007, 11:16 AM
That would be a good deal to make. Head is a guard with probably the same three point shooting ability. And Cook is expandable since we have Vlad.


:pray:

Who's that girl on your pick, dude?

Lakerfrk
06-20-2007, 11:25 AM
I think you guys are underestimating Cook if you think this is purely a steal for the Lakers...

I think we should do this deal in a second, BUT Cook will be a great fit for them.
He NEVER needs to be in the post, because that is ALL YAO.
He never needs to create anything, that is ALL McGrady...
He can just stnd he butt in a corner and shoot when Yao or McGrady is doubled.

PLUS it creates a problem for other teams that want to double Yao with a second big man, because Yao can simply shoot over or pass over a double teaming guard... So double with the big man, when he is responsible for Cook??? That would be dangerous...

This deal actually is one that makes a LOT of sense for both teams...

Just don't be surprised next season when Cook is averaging 10 and 5. He will be...


Yaa, i agree that cook will be good for them........ but we cant worry about how good we'll make other teams....... right now... we need to worry about making ourselves better!!!

E-ROC
06-20-2007, 11:44 AM
A variation on this rumor has Bonzi Wells going to the Lakers as part of the package and Sasha Vujacic coming with Cook. Vujacic would be an awesome addition to the team, but it would seem strange to send out Bonzi Wells, who played extremely well for Adelman in Sacramento and is excited about the prospect of staying with Houston (he could opt-out) to play for his former coach.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22395.shtml

Mitch needs to make this trade happen right now!!!!! Stop waiting.

3's set u free
06-20-2007, 11:48 AM
Who is he? Never heard of him

Only the guy that lit us up for 30 one game last season and almost single handedly beat us.

E-ROC
06-20-2007, 11:54 AM
While there is nothing out of Los Angeles to suggest anything like this is in the works, there were rumors at the February trade deadline that LA and Houston were discussing a Bonzi Wells for Cook swap.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22389.shtml

Clipperhater
06-20-2007, 12:12 PM
Mitch u better get Luther, Get this deal done

CardinalRed4eva
06-20-2007, 12:13 PM
Why do u guys want him he isnt that good

Clipperhater
06-20-2007, 12:16 PM
Why do u guys want him he isnt that good

he is better than any point guard we hav had in the past 3 seasons

bomber0104
06-20-2007, 12:24 PM
Why does everyone say that Head is a PG. I'm pretty sure that he is a SG.
We might have to include a 2nd round pick but who cares. Mitch better do that trade if its available. I've always been a Head fan since his days in Illinois (i think that where he played)

ibejeph
06-20-2007, 12:39 PM
troy murphy at center does not cry championship favorite to me

The warriors tried it last year and he did so poorly, they traded him.

I think you are all delusional. Luther Head is a great shooter but that is bout it. The guy played a lot in his rookie year but that was because of injuries to the rest of the team. He never took away Rafer Alston's minutes!

Luther would help with the guard situation but I can't see him being a significant upgrade over Smush.

Clipperhater
06-20-2007, 12:43 PM
The warriors tried it last year and he did so poorly, they traded him.

I think you are all delusional. Luther Head is a great shooter but that is bout it. The guy played a lot in his rookie year but that was because of injuries to the rest of the team. He never took away Rafer Alston's minutes!

Luther would help with the guard situation but I can't see him being a significant upgrade over Smush.

But he is an upgrade and at least he doesnt hav Smushs selfishness and ego

KingDiesel
06-20-2007, 12:45 PM
I really hope this is true.:pray:

I'm surprised no one has said this yet but... The Rockets can to better than Brian Cook for Luther Head.

ibejeph
06-20-2007, 12:45 PM
i think people on here severely overestimate troy murphy.
why would anybody want him? he is making around 11 million next year,
and averages 10 points and 6 boards, while whoever he guards ( or i should
say tries to guard) goes off for career highs.

I agree but to be fair, Murph averages closer to 15 and 10. He is a good rebounder and a 40% 3 point shooter, which is impressive.

But he only scores on the perimeter. He is like Okur but Okur can block shots, something Murphy hasn't done.

If we did get Murphy and JO, that might be like Utah with Boozer and Okur. They did rather well with the inside-outside attack with those two guys.

ibejeph
06-20-2007, 12:47 PM
Why does everyone say that Head is a PG. I'm pretty sure that he is a SG.
We might have to include a 2nd round pick but who cares. Mitch better do that trade if its available. I've always been a Head fan since his days in Illinois (i think that where he played)

He was a college SG and is in that weird height range of 6'2 to about 6'5. In the NBA, it seems that is too tall for a PG but not tall enough for a SG.

I think those types of players are perfect for the triangle. Tall guard who can hit a 3. Perfect.

energizer bunny
06-20-2007, 12:48 PM
i dnt think that will bring kobe back

ibejeph
06-20-2007, 12:50 PM
This trade would be AWESOME... and it might make sense now that the Rockets are stacked at guard.

Head would solve all our PG problems.
Sure he is a scoring PG, not much of a playmaker, and only average defender... but all that is leagues better than what we have currently.
Specially with that awesome 3 point range.

DO IT MITCH!

Are you sure it would be AWESOME? Defense at that position has been our achillies heel for a long time now.

And if his defense is passable, why did he not start over Rafer Alston?

I like his shooting ability and getting him for Cook is better than just keeping Cook. I'm not so sure he is going to be a huge improvement over Smush.

ibejeph
06-20-2007, 12:50 PM
i dnt think that will bring kobe back

me neither newbie

gr824
06-20-2007, 12:59 PM
Why does everyone say that Head is a PG. I'm pretty sure that he is a SG.
We might have to include a 2nd round pick but who cares. Mitch better do that trade if its available. I've always been a Head fan since his days in Illinois (i think that where he played)

Actually, he can played both guard positions adequately. He's a 'combo' guard [ and you are correct: he played at Illinois ].

Head works as a potential PG for the Lakers because he's tall enough [ 6' 3" ] to satisfy Phil's love of 'big' guards and he's quick enough [ defensively ] to at least chase/bother the league's small, penetrating guards. His ball handling could be better, but, then again, Head is better 'with the rock' than Evans or, probably Vujacic, so he'd be an upgrade over many of last year's roster 'remnants' [ that word 'adequate' applies again ]. Luther's 3-point shooting can be deadly most nights [ great/necessary for the PG in the triangle ] and he can penetrate/slash through the lane to the hoop sufficiently to satisfy that 'requirement' of triangle PG play as well.

Luther would be a welcome addition if the price is right. Head, coupled with Farmar, would get the job done at the point. Come to think of it, head coupled with ... oh ... never mind ... :D

drubynum
06-20-2007, 12:59 PM
I agree but to be fair, Murph averages closer to 15 and 10. He is a good rebounder and a 40% 3 point shooter, which is impressive.

But he only scores on the perimeter. He is like Okur but Okur can block shots, something Murphy hasn't done.

If we did get Murphy and JO, that might be like Utah with Boozer and Okur. They did rather well with the inside-outside attack with those two guys.

he averaged 10 points and 6 rebounds last year not 15 and 10
he is a bad rebounder and defensive player

E-ROC
06-20-2007, 01:00 PM
Why does everyone say that Head is a PG. I'm pretty sure that he is a SG.
We might have to include a 2nd round pick but who cares. Mitch better do that trade if its available. I've always been a Head fan since his days in Illinois (i think that where he played)

He can play point like Brian Shaw did for us.

Brian11
06-20-2007, 01:10 PM
Head for Cook would be unreal. Head would be a nice PG for us, I think he could probably start. If this is the case, sign off on the JO and Murphy deal right away, then go for Artest.

Head/Farmar
Kobe/Evans
Artest/Radman
JO/Turiaf
Murphy/Mihm

THat is a championship roster, possilby even the favorites.

WHERE DO YOU GET THE IDEA WE CAN GET ARTEST FROM??/ I HATE WHEN PEOPLE MAKE STUPID COMMENTS LIKE URS, UR A ****ING IDIOT!!!!!

ibejeph
06-20-2007, 01:12 PM
he averaged 10 points and 6 rebounds last year not 15 and 10
he is a bad rebounder and defensive player

Last year he was also hurt for a good portion of it. And was traded. I'm not defending him but last year was not his best year. The year before, 10 and 14. Career he is 8 and 11.

ibejeph
06-20-2007, 01:13 PM
Actually, he can played both guard positions adequately. He's a 'combo' guard [ and you are correct: he played at Illinois ].

Head works as a potential PG for the Lakers because he's tall enough [ 6' 3" ] to satisfy Phil's love of 'big' guards and he's quick enough [ defensively ] to at least chase/bother the league's small, penetrating guards. His ball handling could be better, but, then again, Head is better 'with the rock' than Evans or, probably Vujacic, so he'd be an upgrade over many of last year's roster 'remnants' [ that word 'adequate' applies again ]. Luther's 3-point shooting can be deadly most nights [ great/necessary for the PG in the triangle ] and he can penetrate/slash through the lane to the hoop sufficiently to satisfy that 'requirement' of triangle PG play as well.

Luther would be a welcome addition if the price is right. Head, coupled with Farmar, would get the job done at the point. Come to think of it, head coupled with ... oh ... never mind ... :D


So you think he is an adequate defender as well? Well, if both you and Ruven are for this trade, then I give my approvel as well.

gr824
06-20-2007, 01:34 PM
So you think he is an adequate defender as well? Well, if both you and Ruven are for this trade, then I give my approvel as well.

I would view Head as more 'suspect' than 'adequate' as a defender, though, from what I've seen of him, quickness and effort [ for the most part ] are there, so he probably can be 'made to work' on the defensive end of the court [ Alston played the point more for Houston, I believe, because they liked Rafer's playmaking skills ( go figure ! :D ), rather than due to any 'reality' that the Rocket coaches 'loved' Alston's 'interesting' defense ( :speechless: ) ]. I don't know that Head will be the solution as the starting PG for the Lakers, long-term [ that could very well be Farmar, in fact ]. But, since the likely cost to get Luther is probably not great and he would be, in essence, in line to 'take over' the role/roster spot of one of the 'already-departed' [ Parker, S. Williams, or McKie ], I don't see this [ possible ] acquisition as any really great gamble for the Lakers ...

gr824
06-20-2007, 01:34 PM
-

k to the b
06-20-2007, 01:44 PM
Luther Head???

NBA Title here we come

Lakergirl24
06-20-2007, 01:46 PM
If Mitch can get this trade to go down, He'll show us that he's serious about building a contender

nalej13
06-20-2007, 01:47 PM
He better get it done. Cook can't do anything but shoot. I wonder how long he's been thinking about this deal.

He'll probably be thinking about it until he finds out that somebody else got Luther Head.

gr824
06-20-2007, 01:47 PM
_

bren2237
06-20-2007, 01:48 PM
While both teams could theoretically have interest in such a deal, there exists a pretty significant catch. Cook has a "poison pill" contract since his extension doesn't kick in until July 1st. To clarify he would be considered $1.8 million in outgoing salary for the Lakers but $3.08 million as incoming for the Rockets.

In other words, Head cannot be traded straight up for Cook. Other players would have to be involved.

One player to consider is Bonzi Wells who has an opt out that the Rockets may have been counting on for a $2.3 million in savings. Now that his former coach, Rick Adelman has taken the Houston job, Wells is reportedly considering the final year on his contract. If he decides to stay, the Rockets may be motivated to trade him despite a strong relationship with the coach.

To match a Head/Wells combination, the Lakers would probably have to throw in Sasha Vujacic and maybe even one of the team's first or second-round picks (19, 40 or 48).

The rest of the article: http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22389.shtml


Bell/Wells for Cook/Vujacic/48th pick. I personally like this deal even better. Not only the talent, but also financially. Wells has only 1 year left on his contract so he's worth the risk.

ruven
06-20-2007, 02:51 PM
Rad is a PF. He isn't a SF at all.




He is both.
Started off a SF, became a PF, now plays some C as well.... but can still play PF.
Much like Luke, he isnt quick enough to guard most SF's, and not strong enough for PF's.

ruven
06-20-2007, 02:54 PM
I think you guys are underestimating Cook if you think this is purely a steal for the Lakers...

I think we should do this deal in a second, BUT Cook will be a great fit for them.
He NEVER needs to be in the post, because that is ALL YAO.
He never needs to create anything, that is ALL McGrady...
He can just stnd he butt in a corner and shoot when Yao or McGrady is doubled.

PLUS it creates a problem for other teams that want to double Yao with a second big man, because Yao can simply shoot over or pass over a double teaming guard... So double with the big man, when he is responsible for Cook??? That would be dangerous...

This deal actually is one that makes a LOT of sense for both teams...

Just don't be surprised next season when Cook is averaging 10 and 5. He will be...
He is their new version of Matt Bullard :D

ruven
06-20-2007, 02:56 PM
Why does everyone say that Head is a PG. I'm pretty sure that he is a SG.
We might have to include a 2nd round pick but who cares. Mitch better do that trade if its available. I've always been a Head fan since his days in Illinois (i think that where he played)

Yes he is a SG.... but he has some PG skills, very limited, but he has some.
He just needs more experience as he had to play SG in college due to them having Deron Williams and Dee Brown.
He is good enough for the triangle PG wise.
The kid hustles and works hard to improve his game ive read.
Kobe would like him :D

ruven
06-20-2007, 02:57 PM
Are you sure it would be AWESOME? Defense at that position has been our achillies heel for a long time now.

And if his defense is passable, why did he not start over Rafer Alston?

I like his shooting ability and getting him for Cook is better than just keeping Cook. I'm not so sure he is going to be a huge improvement over Smush.

Rafer is a playmaker, you need that with a guy like Yao.

ibejeph
06-20-2007, 03:22 PM
While both teams could theoretically have interest in such a deal, there exists a pretty significant catch. Cook has a "poison pill" contract since his extension doesn't kick in until July 1st. To clarify he would be considered $1.8 million in outgoing salary for the Lakers but $3.08 million as incoming for the Rockets.

In other words, Head cannot be traded straight up for Cook. Other players would have to be involved.

One player to consider is Bonzi Wells who has an opt out that the Rockets may have been counting on for a $2.3 million in savings. Now that his former coach, Rick Adelman has taken the Houston job, Wells is reportedly considering the final year on his contract. If he decides to stay, the Rockets may be motivated to trade him despite a strong relationship with the coach.

To match a Head/Wells combination, the Lakers would probably have to throw in Sasha Vujacic and maybe even one of the team's first or second-round picks (19, 40 or 48).

The rest of the article: http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22389.shtml


Bell/Wells for Cook/Vujacic/48th pick. I personally like this deal even better. Not only the talent, but also financially. Wells has only 1 year left on his contract so he's worth the risk.

man, that's just lovely.

Head
Bonzi
Kobe
Lamar
Kwame

Much better than last year.

JabberJaw
06-20-2007, 03:51 PM
man, that's just lovely.

Head
Bonzi
Kobe
Lamar
Kwame

Much better than last year.

:down: I would hate that lineup

Lakerfrk
06-20-2007, 03:58 PM
bonzi/head for cook/vujacic is a great deal...... but that cant be THE deal! It would be a great addition to the line-up but we need a bigger deal to go along with it. I would like a deal for Pierce or Marion... pierce is much more likely...

k to the b
06-20-2007, 04:21 PM
Cook for Head???

My wife asks me to Cook for Head all the time?

So I say its a good deal.

I would cook for head any day of the week. hell, i would even bake cookies for head as well.

JabberJaw
06-20-2007, 04:23 PM
Paul Pierce would be a BEAST in LA, if we got rid of Kobe. He is from LA, and I bet he would love to get traded back home. There is no way Kobe and Pierce could play together though.

JabberJaw
06-20-2007, 04:24 PM
Cook for Head???

My wife asks me to Cook for Head all the time?

So I say its a good deal.

I would taking cooking for head any day of the week. hell, i would even bake cookies for head as well.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

#24 Lakerland
06-20-2007, 04:25 PM
If PP cant be a beast in East, how can he be in the west?

#24 Lakerland
06-20-2007, 04:26 PM
Cook for Head???

My wife asks me to Cook for Head all the time?

So I say its a good deal.

I would taking cooking for head any day of the week. hell, i would even bake cookies for head as well.
:up:

HIGH FIVE!

lalaland2007
06-20-2007, 04:26 PM
All we need is artest and marion in this team.

Trade Radman and Evans for Artest

Kwame and Luke 19th pick for Marion

Kobe
Artest
Marion
Odom
Bynum

yes!
lol

firouz
06-20-2007, 04:27 PM
i think people on here severely overestimate troy murphy.
why would anybody want him? he is making around 11 million next year,
and averages 10 points and 6 boards, while whoever he guards ( or i should
say tries to guard) goes off for career highs.

i would rather keep brown than get murphy... he is overpaid and a long term contract.. i would rather keep brown and let his contract expire or trade him at the deadline for someone desperate or someone trying to get out of their teams..

lakers_kb24
06-20-2007, 04:33 PM
Luther Head's better than Cook..so do it

Tucker91
06-20-2007, 04:39 PM
It is simple, you trade:

Cook, Sasha, 1st or 2nd round pick

for

Luther Head, Bonzi Wells

You then trade:

Kwame, Bynum, Odom

for

Jermaine Oneal and Troy Murphy

(I know it is overpaying)

You resign Luke Walton and either Mihm or Jamal Mcgloire


JO/Mihm (or Mcgloire)
Murphy/Turiaf
Bonzi/Luke/Radman
Kobe/Evans
Head/Farmar


That is by far a top 4 lineup in the west and with Kobe anything can happen...why this doesn't go down I do not understand...

Pope
06-20-2007, 04:43 PM
This is a trade that will get kobe to shut his mouth:cool:

Lakerfan In NY
06-20-2007, 04:55 PM
I would love to see that trade. We need a PG who can shot the 3 as good as head, but to get this done you'll need to add another players, it can't be straight up. Brain Cook contract is a poison Pill, so his trade valve is only like 1.5 or half but to any team that gets him on their cap its worth 3.5, So, anyone for Bonzi Wells?

lakerfan 4 life
06-20-2007, 05:32 PM
please mitch,get head

static_inferno
06-20-2007, 05:33 PM
here's something for ya:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8ONqbhywmFg

just imagine when the game's on the line and Kobe is quintuple teamed who does he pass it to? that's right Mr. Head.

lakerfan 4 life
06-20-2007, 05:35 PM
that indeed would be sick

lakerfan 4 life
06-20-2007, 05:36 PM
head would definatly take a lot of presure off KB

lakerfan 4 life
06-20-2007, 05:37 PM
the lakers would be making a steal

energizer bunny
06-20-2007, 05:49 PM
It is simple, you trade:

Cook, Sasha, 1st or 2nd round pick

for

Luther Head, Bonzi Wells

You then trade:

Kwame, Bynum, Odom

for

Jermaine Oneal and Troy Murphy

(I know it is overpaying)

You resign Luke Walton and either Mihm or Jamal Mcgloire


JO/Mihm (or Mcgloire)
Murphy/Turiaf
Bonzi/Luke/Radman
Kobe/Evans
Head/Farmar


That is by far a top 4 lineup in the west and with Kobe anything can happen...why this doesn't go down I do not understand...


this team seems boring but if they winning so be it

G-Funk
06-20-2007, 05:52 PM
All I know is that Luther and Bonzi would be coming for Cook and Sasha!

lakerfan 4 life
06-20-2007, 06:01 PM
...

lakerfan 4 life
06-20-2007, 06:06 PM
...

lakerfan 4 life
06-20-2007, 06:09 PM
*Andrew Bynum 2010 MVP*

lakerfan 4 life
06-20-2007, 06:09 PM
Next shaq

The_Kansas_Man
06-20-2007, 06:12 PM
stfu lakerfan 4 life

CalJo1617
06-20-2007, 06:15 PM
can we ban this guy now?

ruven
06-20-2007, 06:18 PM
Head Dunks on Turiaf (http://youtube.com/watch?v=NivsZrbQZmQ&mode=related&search=)

ruven
06-20-2007, 06:22 PM
can we ban this guy now?

yessir

Jamarcus Raider
06-20-2007, 06:25 PM
I would love to get head ;)

scratch
06-20-2007, 06:25 PM
Andrew


Bynum


*Andrew Bynum 2010 MVP*


Next shaq


ndrew Bynum 2010 MVP

You must be ******** rabbit99!

Laker_Motion
06-20-2007, 06:46 PM
Chron- (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/lopez/4904423.html)

I personally would love for this to happen. DO IT MITCH

hope it happens :clap::clap:

Lakers37
06-20-2007, 06:59 PM
We need defense and speed!!!!!!

Pope
06-20-2007, 07:15 PM
we need allot of things.
3pt specialist
big man
pg
defensive specialist

energizer bunny
06-20-2007, 07:18 PM
wats a big deal with luther head i never really watch him

energizer bunny
06-20-2007, 07:20 PM
You must be ******** rabbit99!

why yall keep making fun of rabbit or rabbit99 whatever his name is.

why borat, laker4life said that im him

LakerDeftones
06-20-2007, 07:46 PM
how can you guys say no to head?

we all want head

(yes i know the joke is gonna get old fast but i figured i would throw one more in)

prisa4life
06-20-2007, 07:51 PM
i actually heard that on tha radio
its actually ......

cook and sasha
for
wells and head

that would b some amazing stuff

SoCal_fan
06-20-2007, 07:58 PM
all we can do is hope!!!

sportsphanatic
06-20-2007, 08:15 PM
I just laughed when I heard about this rumor. I could just see Mitch on the phone saying "I'll Cook if u give me Head." :laugh:

MR DODGER
06-20-2007, 08:23 PM
i actually heard that on tha radio
its actually ......

cook and sasha
for
wells and head

that would b some amazing stuff

Hopefully it happens, at this point i'll even take wells off their hands for head. This deal only makes sense if we trade for JO. The Lakers have the ability to make big moves it's Jerry who is holding them back.

G-Funk
06-20-2007, 08:25 PM
I would love to get head ;)

me too!

sportsphanatic
06-20-2007, 08:36 PM
The only reason I would do this if I were Lakers is cuz u get Head. IDC about Wells.

vegaslakers
06-20-2007, 08:38 PM
Adelman is the coach of the Rockets, and his previous teams (Blazers and Kings) were mostly offensive teams; so, indeed, Cook is better for the Rockets.:) Cook is lacking for D although he is a more consistent shooter than Head, but, Head is not a defensive prowess either. The more offensive minded Cook would complement the more defensive minded Battier in the Rocket's rotation. Head (SG) is short, but, his quickness and better passing ability would be better for the Lakers triangle offense and also to improve the team defense. :) It would be a minor deal for both team's benches, but, it is a win win for both team.:clap: If Sasha and Bonzi are included, it won't be bad if agreeable with Kobe. Lol, I heard Shaq doesn't like Bonzi as a result of his playing days with the Blazers!

FlawlessKB24
06-20-2007, 08:40 PM
The only reason I would do this if I were Lakers is cuz u get Head. IDC about Wells.

idc either.
but if we could lose sasha for him i say "why not?"

sportsphanatic
06-20-2007, 08:43 PM
idc either.
but if we could lose sasha for him i say "why not?"


U wouldn't be a very good GM. :) Don't take in players just cuz u can get rid of a guy u already have. Just save that guy & get someone better from another team.

MR DODGER
06-20-2007, 09:01 PM
Even a guy like wells can help the lakers at this point. What happens with Luke???? Does anyone care if he stays or goes???

Bleeds Blue
06-20-2007, 09:13 PM
yeah ill take wells over sasha anyday

3's set u free
06-20-2007, 09:25 PM
U wouldn't be a very good GM. :) Don't take in players just cuz u can get rid of a guy u already have. Just save that guy & get someone better from another team.

Huh???? Oh thats right, if you were a GM you wouldn't get Head, you would give Head!

That sounds right up your alley.

MickeyMgl
06-20-2007, 09:37 PM
Hopefully it happens, at this point i'll even take wells off their hands for head. This deal only makes sense if we trade for JO. The Lakers have the ability to make big moves it's Jerry who is holding them back.

I think it's Jim.

scubastevie10
06-20-2007, 09:41 PM
Thats one thing the lakers need, some good head

MickeyMgl
06-20-2007, 09:43 PM
yeah ill take wells over sasha anyday

At this stage in their respective careers, I'd take Sasha - whose game has improved slowly but steadily each year and who has a better attitude - than Wells, who is a cancer and a has-been.

..... but I'm not so attached to Sasha that I would hold him out of this trade. It's still mainly Cook for Head. We give them Cook, and they give us Head. (I just couldn't resist.) :)

MickeyMgl
06-20-2007, 09:48 PM
Headline:
Season Ticket Holders Losing Patience, So Lakers Give Them Head

R32
06-20-2007, 10:59 PM
can you see my post? cuz i can't!

lalaland2007
06-20-2007, 11:18 PM
Come on Mitch, Gimme Head, Ill give you a Cookie? Come On, Please Mitch, BRING ME CABEZA!

58 59 impala
06-21-2007, 01:15 AM
i actually heard that on tha radio
its actually ......

cook and sasha
for
wells and head

that would b some amazing stuff

when bonzi is happy (he'll respect phil)
HE'S PLAYS GREAT,even more in big games
& the playoffs, upgrade at sf by far!
head is perfect for the tri,& cook has to go
anyway,all he did was complain about what
phil wanted him to do! I HOPE THIS IS TRUE !!
I hope it gets done !!

Clipperhater
06-21-2007, 02:59 AM
All Laker fans want HEAD

#24 Lakerland
06-21-2007, 03:01 AM
Guys stop with this "head' nonsense. Your gona make ruven.......well you know. I shouldnt go any further.

FlawlessKB24
06-21-2007, 03:01 AM
win-win situation

lakersrock
06-21-2007, 03:01 AM
Guys stop with this "head' nonsense. Your gona make ruven.......well you know. I shouldnt go any further.

:D

Pope
06-21-2007, 03:07 AM
all this head stuff is giving me a headache

#24 Lakerland
06-21-2007, 03:10 AM
all this head stuff is giving me a headache

:rimshot:

Clipperhater
06-21-2007, 03:21 AM
all this head stuff is giving me a headache


:rimshot:

:laugh:

#24 Lakerland
06-21-2007, 03:32 AM
Guys like my new sig(click the underline)

ssnsocalfan
06-21-2007, 03:42 AM
Head is a good pickup. I still would not do the Indiana trade

SATX_2K7
06-21-2007, 04:33 AM
I'm in over my HEAD viewing this thread.

CalJo1617
06-21-2007, 04:53 AM
Guys like my new sig(click the underline)

i think i saw smush in that video :laugh:

Statix
06-21-2007, 10:31 AM
So did we get Luther Head or is it just a rumor still????

cubssoriano11
06-21-2007, 11:41 AM
its a perfect deal do it.:dance::pray::)

3's set u free
06-21-2007, 12:00 PM
Guys like my new sig(click the underline)

Haha, too funny, it looked like Lebron at the free-throw line.
Airball after airball.

pd23
06-21-2007, 02:10 PM
He was a college SG and is in that weird height range of 6'2 to about 6'5. In the NBA, it seems that is too tall for a PG but not tall enough for a SG.

I think those types of players are perfect for the triangle. Tall guard who can hit a 3. Perfect.He was a SG in college becaus he played with Deron Williams and he is pretty good and Dee brown was also on that team, I think they had 3 guards starting.

lakersrock
06-21-2007, 02:28 PM
He was a SG in college becaus he played with Deron Williams and he is pretty good and Dee brown was also on that team, I think they had 3 guards starting.

They did....

Dee
Deron
Luther
The guy that's a preacher (I forgot his name)
Augustine

Lakergirl24
06-21-2007, 02:46 PM
Dont get too excited...mitch probably wont make it happen

Jamarcus Raider
06-21-2007, 06:10 PM
Dont get too excited...mitch probably wont make it happen

Lakergirl i want head, i don't know about you, cook should be a goner for his attitude and his play.

lakersrock
06-21-2007, 06:33 PM
Lakergirl i want head

Typical guy...:D

rhensley3
06-21-2007, 10:05 PM
great potential! i see no downside to this move. :rock:

amos1er
06-22-2007, 01:08 AM
It would be a small start, but we need to do something. Like I've said many times in the past, Mitch is only capable of pulling of small deals involving role players. Mitch will never pull off a JO, KG, or Artest deal.

I bet the Rockets are only doing this because they have the in on a Mo Williams deal. Head would be a great up grade though. Anything is better than Smush.

Gaucho
06-22-2007, 01:10 AM
It would be a small start, but we need to do something. Like I've said many times in the past, Mitch is only capable of pulling of small deals involving role players. Mitch will never pull off a JO, KG, or Artest deal.

I bet the Rockets are only doing this because they have the in on a Mo Williams deal. Head would be a great up grade though. Anything is better than Smush.
ANYTHING is definetely the right word to choose.

Statix
06-22-2007, 01:50 AM
So did we get Luther or what???

xpunx23
06-22-2007, 02:08 AM
add in chuck hayes in that deal as a sign n rade with walton

clehmun
06-22-2007, 02:17 AM
bonzi wells is what i really want... he can really help this team.
a poor man's artest who can come reaaaaally cheap.

E-ROC
06-22-2007, 02:34 AM
Mitch is going to screw this deal up because he's waiting for JO's dumbazz.

Fool
06-22-2007, 12:31 PM
Anyone > Smush Parker

scratch
06-22-2007, 06:57 PM
Heard on the Loose Cannons that Cook for Head straight up deal is as good as done. :shrug:

bleedprple&gold
06-22-2007, 07:01 PM
Heard on the Loose Cannons that Cook for Head straight up deal is as good as done. :shrug:

I thought that deal couldn't be done because of the "poison pill" thing, which I still don't quite understand. Does the "poison pill" thing not kick in until July 1st??

scratch
06-22-2007, 07:06 PM
I thought that deal couldn't be done because of the "poison pill" thing, which I still don't quite understand. Does the "poison pill" thing not kick in until July 1st??

Not sure how thats gonna work or if that's is even an issue!

RealityTip101
06-23-2007, 03:51 PM
Why dont the lakers look into signing Dikembe Mutombo as a bench player. He is old but is still active in the paint and can still rebound.

sportsphanatic
06-23-2007, 04:33 PM
:laugh2:

lakers4thewin
06-23-2007, 05:05 PM
Maybe they're comtemplating Cook for Head because Cook could be in a deal for Artest?

scratch
06-23-2007, 05:07 PM
Why dont the lakers look into signing Dikembe Mutombo as a bench player. He is old but is still active in the paint and can still rebound.

He's said publicly that he wants to go back to the Rockets!

sportsphanatic
06-23-2007, 05:39 PM
Maybe they're comtemplating Cook for Head because Cook could be in a deal for Artest?


I was about to type that exact same thing. I heard during the playoffs the Kings would want Cook in the deal 4 Artest.

lakerfan 4 life
06-30-2009, 07:18 PM
Yea!!!!! we got ariza for that bum