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    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    She’s clearly talking about women’s issues, notice at the top of the page where it says women. Sweet meme though. Great ads btw. Also, huffington post. Could anything else be wrong?
    it's the same person writing contradicting opinions.

    the anti-Trump movement seems to be getting dumber

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    it's the same person writing contradicting opinions.
    Nope. She’s conveying the same opinion(she’s for women’s rights) based on the views of two different people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    That is pure bs. Any number of posters, better then myself, had complained about Trump's programs in detail. In the Tax cut, remember people being against it for raising the national debt, give to much to the upper class. You can go to various threads and various intelligent poster have given the why, how and where in detail about certain issues. You just didn't want to hear it that all. And this complain is coming from someone who didn't researched his choice for president. Come again about not knowing the details of a subject or person. I think it is you who is operating on emotion, and without sound judgement, which is easy to do when you don't dive into the details.If you didn't vetted Trump, I am sure you didn't brother studying Bernie Sander's economical plan. So you are just assuming this is true. And I am sorry The democrat didn't come up with bright ideas like
    1. building the wall to stop illegals from coming in the country.
    2."If I become president, we're all gonna be saying "Merry Christmas and end the war on Christmas
    This is bs. Like they don't have to put up with our BS, like invading Iraq and disrupting the middle east so badly, that europe is filled with refugee from that area. All due to the reign change policies in the middle east that the neocons have been pushing. Having to deal with our hard on for Iran. You are very self-centered with your foreign ideas like Trump.First I wouldn't come to the meeting telling lies on German, second, just remove the troops if there is problem and quit insulting and berating our allies. Just do it, and quitting being a dick about it. For years, I wanted us out of europe
    and this will be a good reason to pull out. Turn that money into our educational systemLOL, Trump is the biggest plug up Putin's butt. Did you every check to see that we have been trading with Russia all through the cold war to now? Do you want to bust Trump's chops for trading with a "competitor" as well. You know during all those years our relationship with Russia was not cozy, warm and fuzzy especially with us pointing nukes at each other. And we still got those nukes pointing at us. Way far more then N.Korea. And Trump still give a shout out to Putin Really, maintaining a good relationship with our allies is just a "everyone feel good" thing and have nothing to do with business or helping citizens.

    over simplification

    My apologies. Before I posted anything in here I did not notice the memo that explained you were the foremost authority on what is acceptable policy and Donald Trump. You seem to want to paint any alternative view to yours as wrong because you just know better or whatever research you think you are doing supports your opinion.....or if it makes it better your research is guaranteed fact and everyone else just opinion.

    So in the end it's just this.........you have a certain world view and half the country has another. We did it half the country's way for the previous 8 years, now the other half of the country has their turn.

    Canada's pretty nice this time of year and I hear their leader is pretty pleasant

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    Krett Bavanaugh
    this my sig

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatch View Post
    Anonymity surely makes for some Keyboard Courage for sure.

    But to the original point. Sure there is a lot more avenues for people to bang their war drums, but it still really doesn't excuse some of the outlandish stuff that comes out of peoples mouths...or keyboards. Like I said, I really just don't understand this open hatred of Trump...mockery...embarrassment and whatever. I don't see anyone providing credible opposition to what he's doing or having a better plan......

    Let's be honest 75% of what everyone fights, kicks and screams about on the news, Facebook, protest rallies and things like that are things that don't move the needle on anyone's life. I don't care if Trump banged a porn star, I don't care if Clinton got a BJ.........Pardons? every president does it and everyone gets all excited about what a horrible thing it was...but really? Are any pardons of any real consequence to ANY regular voters life? No. We are long past the point of expecting a flawless perfect person to be the President so let's drop all the outrage over things that have no real consequence about the business of running the country. All these sideshows the media invents to drum up debates doesn't mean a hill of beans anymore to what people really care about. They want to be safe and they want to be able to have a decent job to have a level of comfort in their lives. So strip away all the nonsense.....trumps a bully because he talks aggressively, he's a bragger, kids in cages and whatever else people want to be offended by....cut through all that and what's wrong with his agenda?
    Yes there are ranters and ravers on both sides of the table on this site, but there are plenty as well who have offered civil opposition and reasonable alternatives.

    Just one example from a couple of weeks ago — something similar, by the way I have said several times — as have others:

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    ...I have to work hard to separate out my dislike for Mr. Trump as a human being from my almost total opposition to his policies. From what I know of him as a person (mostly by what the media portray — and of course we always have to be wary on that account — but at the same time also intensified by what he says about himself), I find him generally repellent.

    His policies, however, are why I truly oppose him as President. I believe, for example, that he is on his way to making the SCOTUS not only an instrument of political ideology but one inclined to restrict civil rights. He seeks to increase the rapid deterioration the environment. And his economic policies so far have been beneficial to some perhaps in the short term, but I believe signal danger in the long term (tax cuts, reduction of social services, deregulation).

    But, I admit, it is hard at times to distinguish Mr. Trump-hate from President Trump-hate (and I also think hate is not the word I’d use, but I do see it fits in some places)
    The word “credible” is the key to what your post is all about. Credibility depends on who is assessing — on what his/her “beliefs” are. Politically, mine are just about the mirror opposite of Mr. Trump’s. In your eyes, they may not (or may) be credible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatch View Post
    My apologies. Before I posted anything in here I did not notice the memo that explained you were the foremost authority on what is acceptable policy and Donald Trump. You seem to want to paint any alternative view to yours as wrong because you just know better or whatever research you think you are doing supports your opinion.....or if it makes it better your research is guaranteed fact and everyone else just opinion.

    So in the end it's just this.........you have a certain world view and half the country has another. We did it half the country's way for the previous 8 years, now the other half of the country has their turn.

    Canada's pretty nice this time of year and I hear their leader is pretty pleasant
    Wow, you write a post that basically said that the liberals posters here have no ideas and sit around just moaning about Trump. Which was a lie and insulting to the posters here. Basically crowing about conservatism and dissing liberals.

    I guess in your mind, liberals are empty minded, reactionaries with no idea about anything just that they hate Trump.

    And then when I didn't agree with your post about the failings of my political beliefs, I should go to Canada.

    Yeah, it's has been fun.

    Notice you didn't have one come back or intelligent debate to any of my points and got emotional and started dissing me. Common practice by some of the republican posters here, who even told me FU.
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    Brett's bringing back the Lochner era

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    Nope. She’s conveying the same opinion(she’s for women’s rights) based on the views of two different people.
    this is just stupid. everyone can see that it's the same person. this the hypocrisy in Trump's America.






    watch as people come out attacking Kavanaugh as being against women, except it's ********.



    the anti-Trump movement seems to be getting dumber

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    Wow. Hey bud, the articles are about two different people from the same writer. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    Yes there are ranters and ravers on both sides of the table on this site, but there are plenty as well who have offered civil opposition and reasonable alternatives.

    Just one example from a couple of weeks ago — something similar, by the way I have said several times — as have others:



    The word “credible” is the key to what your post is all about. Credibility depends on who is assessing — on what his/her “beliefs” are. Politically, mine are just about the mirror opposite of Mr. Trump’s. In your eyes, they may not (or may) be credible.
    I appreciate your comments here. Personally I can't really say I care much for Trump. And sure when you dig in to it credibility is very subjective. It's hard for people to separate the two when reacting to what he's doing. I tend to feel like a lot of the big issues are so deep and convoluted that people end up going with the framework they inherently believe. I can respect a position of a person who feels like his tax cuts are long term a bad idea. That could very well be the case. But what ends up happening every time any president makes some economic decisions each side has their experts that support it and prove it's gonna work or prove it's going to be bad. The issues get so deep in the weeds that that everyone reverts back to their ideologies. The macro concepts are so deep and complicated the country resorts to trying to top each other on the micro issues and the quick things we can get instant gratification over. We can't predict what's going to happen 5 years down the road. Couldn't there be just as much chance the tax cuts will get underway and as things move forward other moves will be made to make it a longer term success? No one genuinely knows the answer to that. The guy is a lighting rod for sure. The news channels have a gold mine going the last couple years..........maybe we should be having them finance the tax cuts and everyone's happy !

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    You are right that we don’t know for sure but we can make a reasoned assumption. The cuts for the lower and middle class are temporary while those for big businesses and the higher end are permanent. They blow a bigger whole in our debt and deficit by the assumptions of those who pass the bill. So we’re going to be stuck with more federal debt and higher taxes looming over lower earners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    media bias in relation to Brett Kavanaugh.
    this from Emily Peck, "HuffPost senior reporter"..





    if you don't want to believe me then watch for yourself as the Liberal media cover Brett Kavanaugh. they are going to be right there on the same side as the Democrats.
    You’ve done a nose dive off the deep end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Powders View Post
    You’ve done a nose dive off the deep end
    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    Wow. Hey bud, the articles are about two different people from the same writer. Lol
    no ****. but they're about the same thing except with different opinions. one was about Obama and his daughters that was positive. the other was about Kavanaugh and his daughters that was negative.
    Last edited by SpecialFNK; 07-13-2018 at 10:03 AM.

    the anti-Trump movement seems to be getting dumber

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    You are right that we don’t know for sure but we can make a reasoned assumption. The cuts for the lower and middle class are temporary while those for big businesses and the higher end are permanent. They blow a bigger whole in our debt and deficit by the assumptions of those who pass the bill. So we’re going to be stuck with more federal debt and higher taxes looming over lower earners.
    True that seems to be a good sized gamble. Could you argue though that it's a gamble that maybe needed to be taken? As a means to create jobs, maybe boost wages and bring businesses that had moved away because they could be more profitable somewhere else......how else do you do that without incentivizing them to do so?

    Regardless of whether we raise taxes or lower taxes the US has been very bad at living within it's means. The taxes are going to be a roller coaster of action and reactions until we find a way to cut dramatically what we spend. And politically it seems easier to sell less taxes or more taxes rather than take entitlements away. That seems to evoke the most visceral reactions so it doesn't happen. Without that the taxes are going to be an ebb and flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatch View Post
    True that seems to be a good sized gamble. Could you argue though that it's a gamble that maybe needed to be taken? As a means to create jobs, maybe boost wages and bring businesses that had moved away because they could be more profitable somewhere else......how else do you do that without incentivizing them to do so?

    Regardless of whether we raise taxes or lower taxes the US has been very bad at living within it's means. The taxes are going to be a roller coaster of action and reactions until we find a way to cut dramatically what we spend. And politically it seems easier to sell less taxes or more taxes rather than take entitlements away. That seems to evoke the most visceral reactions so it doesn't happen. Without that the taxes are going to be an ebb and flow.
    It seem about as much of a gamble as throwing a ball in the air and predicting that it will fly into space. When has this actually worked?

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