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    Yep

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    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32688...-prestigiacomo

    UNREAL: Watch Liberals Protest ICE As The Agency Breaks Up A Child Sex-Trafficking Ring
    As Democratic politicians' calls for the abolition of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) grow intensely loud, a video of liberals protesting the agency as they break up a child sex-trafficking ring has resurfaced online.

    CBS San Francisco reported in August of 2017 that federal agents served a search warrant on a Guatemalan immigrant family home in Oakland in connection with an ​investigation concerning the sex trafficking of juveniles. The human trafficking operation was later confirmed by authorities.

    Amazingly, as ICE officers were literally breaking up the child prostitution operation, they were being protested against by liberal neighbors who demonized the agency and advocated for the "rights" of illegal immigrants.

    Oakland is designated a "sanctuary city" for illegals.

    Hadar Cohen, a female neighbor protesting ICE during the raid, told local news that she woke up to her roommate crying due to the agents' cars being outside their residence.

    "It’s been really tough because we have no idea what’s going on in there, and we that there’s a lot of injustices that have been happening," said Cohen, a "No person is illegal" sign in-hand. "We care for our neighbors, and we for immigration rights."

    Another neighbor told a reporter of his disdain for President Donald Trump and said ICE is not welcome in the United States.

    Others protesting held a "We love our neighbors" banner and wrote messages in chalk on the sidewalk and driveways, such as "Oakland PD is a disgrace."

    Even after neighbors were informed that the raid was about sex-trafficking and not immigration, the ICE-bashing continued, notes The Federalist. "ICE is not welcome in this country. H.S. is not welcome," said one neighbor. "I don’t support what they do. I think it is a blasphemy."

    Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who is apparently the "future" of the Democrat Party, has called for the abolition of ICE. Following suit, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Senator Kamala Harris (D-CA), and other prominent Democrats have made similar demands. Senator Warren, for example, said ICE must be replaced "with something that reflects our values."
    of course benny01 is going to have an issue with the source. don't be like benny01.

    it should be added that this story comes from another source..

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...-west-oakland/

    but ICE is so terrible right.

    the anti-Trump movement seems to be getting dumber

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    I like how its crazy to say that a department like ICE should be abolished, when it’s really a sub department with tasks that multiple other agencies do, but in GOP primaries they compete to see who is willing to say that they will get rid of the most cabinet level departments entirely. Not reposition them, not consolidate them, just axe them entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    I like how its crazy to say that a department like ICE should be abolished, when it’s really a sub department with tasks that multiple other agencies do, but in GOP primaries they compete to see who is willing to say that they will get rid of the most cabinet level departments entirely. Not reposition them, not consolidate them, just axe them entirely.
    well that is because most conservatives claim they want small govt. So when candidates do that, to your average voter, its just what they wanted. I mean, how many on either side of the political spectrum can really give you details on what departments really do?

    "cut EPA? Yayyyyyyyyyy!"

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    well that is because most conservatives claim they want small govt. So when candidates do that, to your average voter, its just what they wanted. I mean, how many on either side of the political spectrum can really give you details on what departments really do?

    "cut EPA? Yayyyyyyyyyy!"
    I want smaller government. I’d like to start the cutting at the “grabbing families and splitting them up” division.

    Like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32688...-prestigiacomo




    of course benny01 is going to have an issue with the source. don't be like benny01.

    it should be added that this story comes from another source..

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...-west-oakland/

    but ICE is so terrible right.
    Yes ICE is terrible. As has been said before, they operate outside of the law. They are a unconstitutional entity. Has nothing to do with immigrants, that whole comprehension thing strikes again

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    Yes ICE is terrible. As has been said before, they operate outside of the law. They are a unconstitutional entity. Has nothing to do with immigrants, that whole comprehension thing strikes again
    They might act unconstitutionally at times. But they’re not unconstitutional by their mere existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    They might act unconstitutionally at times. But they’re not unconstitutional by their mere existence.
    True, my mistake. They have authorization to operate outside the bounds of the constitution.

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    No, I need them to cool my drinks!


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    Yes. Obviously.
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    I posted this in another thread, but it's better fitting here.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post

    there is a bill called "abolish ICE"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...c78_story.html

    update:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...gainst-it.html

    Dems who drafted bill to abolish ICE now say they'll vote against it
    Democrats who drafted a bill to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement [ICE] suddenly announced Thursday night that they would vote against it if the legislation went to the floor, after House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy told Fox News he intended to call their bluff.

    "We know Speaker [Paul] Ryan is not serious about passing our 'Establishing a Humane Immigration Enforcement System Act,' so members of Congress, advocacy groups, and impacted communities will not engage in this political stunt," Reps. Mark Pocan of Wisconsin, Pramila Jayapal of Washington and Adriano Espaillat of New York told The Hill and other news outlets. "If Speaker Ryan puts our bill on the floor, we plan to vote no and will instead use the opportunity to force an urgently needed and long-overdue conversation on the House floor."

    McCarthy, R-Calif., said earlier Thursday he would place a bill to abolish ICE on the House floor later this month.

    Democrats have long pushed back on the administration’s immigration policies but tensions have escalated in the past month over family separations at the border. Calls from some far-left lawmakers to abolish ICE have grown ahead of the November elections.

    Former presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., last week slammed the federal agency as being a part of a “cruel, dysfunctional immigration system” that needs “comprehensive” reform.

    One of the first senators to push for eradicating ICE was Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., who said last month that ICE “has become a deportation force” which should be abolished.

    New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio echoed Gillibrand, calling the agency “broken” and “divisive.”

    “It should be abolished,” he tweeted.

    As analysts point out, if Democrats vote against the proposal and kill it, it undermines their word. If they earn enough "yes" votes, Republicans could turn the issue and tie all Democrats to the crisis at the border.

    Perhaps sensing trouble ahead of the primaries, Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer of New York and House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi of California have called instead for the agency to be restructured.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/12/polit...ice/index.html

    House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy confirmed Thursday the House will vote on a Democratic bill to dismantle US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, more commonly known as ICE.

    It's a move Democrats are already calling a "political stunt" since Republicans, who hold the majority, broadly oppose the bill and it would not pass.

    House Speaker Paul Ryan fiercely criticized the effort to abolish ICE earlier Thursday in a news conference.

    "They have really jumped the sharks on the left," Ryan said. "This is the agency that gets gangs out of communities, that helps prevent drugs from flowing into our schools, that rescues people from human trafficking. They want to get rid of this agency?"


    "It's the craziest position I've ever seen," Ryan continued. "And they are just they are tripping over themselves to move too far to the left. They are out of the mainstream of America. And that is one the reasons why I feel very good about this fall."

    Asked why Republicans, who control the House floor, will bring the bill to the floor anyway, McCarthy told reporters the goal is to "have a debate about it."

    "The Democrats have a bill," he said. "This is what they communicate with."

    A small group of Democrats, led by Rep. Mark Pocan of Wisconsin, introduced legislation that would dismantle ICE and create a commission to provide recommendations to Congress on how the government "can implement a humane immigration enforcement system," according to a statement. The issue comes after the Trump administration's "zero-tolerance" policy, which referred all people who cross the border illegally for criminal prosecution on top of immigration proceedings.

    Republicans and many Democrats broadly oppose the idea. But bringing a Democratic bill to the floor could be seen as a way to force Democrats to go on the record with an effort that could be politically risky ahead of the midterms.

    In a statement Thursday night, Pocan -- along with the bill's co-sponsors, Reps. Pramila Jayapal and Adriano Espaillat -- accused Republican leaders of launching "a political stunt" and pledged to vote against their own legislation.

    "We know Speaker (Paul) Ryan is not serious about passing our 'Establishing a Humane Immigration Enforcement System Act,' so Members of Congress, advocacy groups, and impacted communities will not engage in this political stunt," they said. "If Speaker Ryan puts our bill on the floor, we plan to vote 'no' and will instead use the opportunity to force an urgently needed and long-overdue conversation on the House floor."

    The members said they would talk about the issue of migrant families separated at the border and the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which Trump ended but who's specific future has been held up in the courts.

    Ryan said as recently as last month that he didn't want to bring bills to the floor that would never get the President's signature. His comments came as he tried to stop a moderate Republican-led effort to allow votes on multiple immigration bills, including bills that had Democratic support.

    GOP leaders instead negotiated a deal with moderates to vote on a pair of newly-crafted legislation by Republicans that was more likely to get the President's support, though neither bill ultimately passed the House.

    Asked about Ryan's previous comments against bringing bills to the floor that would never get the President's signature, McCarthy said, "Well, actually just wait 'til I give the schedule out."
    "I've got a lot of bills to send over to the Senate," he said, when asked about it again.

    the anti-Trump movement seems to be getting dumber

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    Dems who drafted bill to abolish ICE now say they'll vote against it
    Neoliberalism 101
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    Neoliberalism 101
    noooo they're just "centrists"

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    So they are going to vote for a bill to abolish ICE that won’t even come close to passing but won’t pass a bill to get Flint, MI clean drinking water.

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    I don't see the point in attacking this cause with "what about Flint?".
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