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    Senate Votes to Protect Net Neutrality

    I really can't believe this is such a partisan debate. I would have thought the libertarian friendly GOPers would come support this.

    Here's the vote tally from today and now it goes to the House (to die): https://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...n=2&vote=00096

    Jones getting that AL seat is paying off in this vote.

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    Id guess cash payments to their lawyers. Head of the party is establishing that as gop norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    Id guess cash payments to their lawyers. Head of the party is establishing that as gop norm.
    Yeah I get that it's a corporate/lobby friendly position to be against this and drive profits to providers, but I would have thought the potential loss of consumer freedom would be enough to sway more than just Collins. Maybe Rand Paul, etc.

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    I would love to see Ajit Pai's initial reaction. I'd pay like 45.


    Best news of the day, can't believe their hail mary worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Yeah I get that it's a corporate/lobby friendly position to be against this and drive profits to providers, but I would have thought the potential loss of consumer freedom would be enough to sway more than just Collins. Maybe Rand Paul, etc.
    Yeah, youd think. My guess is that any with any integrity have buried their heads in the sand at this point. Everything that theyve been against for years has been normalized by the majority of the party. The things we know, no speculation, at this point are putting the Clintons to shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekial View Post
    I would love to see Ajit Pai's initial reaction. I'd pay like 45.


    Best news of the day, can't believe their hail mary worked.
    Except that it goes to the House now. It's like a PHD student handing their thesis to a Kindergarten class for revisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Except that it goes to the House now. It's like a PHD student handing their thesis to a Kindergarten class for revisions.
    I guess but I still will hold my hope, and hope people care enough to hold those accountable if it fails. There was some speculation that it wouldn't make it through even with Collins saying her obvious Yes to NN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekial View Post
    I guess but I still will hold my hope, and hope people care enough to hold those accountable if it fails. There was some speculation that it wouldn't make it through even with Collins saying her obvious Yes to NN.

    It's not good for the American people. It's only good for corporate America and the people they donate to.
    Its possible, if it gets a chance to breath in the news cycle. Citizens are overwhelmingly for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    I would have thought the libertarian friendly GOPers would come support this.
    Why? Net neutrality is the government regulating business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    Why? Net neutrality is the government regulating business.
    The government doesn't and shouldn't allow illegal monopolies, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    Why? Net neutrality is the government regulating business.
    This. It's also not as cut and dry as 'net neutrality good for plebs like us, bad for meanie greedy corporate monsters.' The primary thrust of this argument was that allowing throttling could (would?) lead to censorship by ISPs who want to silence voices they don't like and give preferential treatment to those they do. Well, censorship has ramped up to extreme levels in this post-Russiagate hysteria (and well before to be fair) so that argument is kind of dead in the water.

    Still, I tend to favor net neutrality but I understand the problems with internet regulation are much deeper. In practice this would probably mean the meanie greedy corporate fatcats at Google, Netflix, etc. would face a steeper price for their disproportionate use of bandwidth. This also kind of evaporates the argument that 'only corporate interests benefit from this.' The question is which corporate interests benefit because the people certainly are not any longer (from Cloudfare de-listing to Google/Facebook censorship).

    Eventually the government is going to have to sack up and either stop pretending antitrust laws don't exist anymore in order to break up Google and others, or they're going to have to nationalize them. There is no political will for that, or really much of anything else, in the Congress currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flea View Post
    This. It's also not as cut and dry as 'net neutrality good for plebs like us, bad for meanie greedy corporate monsters.' The primary thrust of this argument was that allowing throttling could (would?) lead to censorship by ISPs who want to silence voices they don't like and give preferential treatment to those they do. Well, censorship has ramped up to extreme levels in this post-Russiagate hysteria (and well before to be fair) so that argument is kind of dead in the water.

    Still, I tend to favor net neutrality but I understand the problems with internet regulation are much deeper. In practice this would probably mean the meanie greedy corporate fatcats at Google, Netflix, etc. would face a steeper price for their disproportionate use of bandwidth. This also kind of evaporates the argument that 'only corporate interests benefit from this.' The question is which corporate interests benefit because the people certainly are not any longer (from Cloudfare de-listing to Google/Facebook censorship).

    Eventually the government is going to have to sack up and either stop pretending antitrust laws don't exist anymore in order to break up Google and others, or they're going to have to nationalize them. There is no political will for that, or really much of anything else, in the Congress currently.
    Last paragraph is why Id imagine you all would be against it. Good points though.

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    Big companies like youtube want to to put cable tv out of business and they want the people they're trying to put out business to pay for the increased costs associated the with streaming content... It's really amazing but people go on reddit and read all these articles about it being some sort of civil right's violation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    Last paragraph is why Id imagine you all would be against it. Good points though.
    I don't know who 'you all' is but I said I am for net neutrality. I just don't think it's the huge issue it's made out to be. The problems underlying internet regulation are much deeper.

    I actually wouldn't be impacted at all because I don't watch Netflix or any other streaming services and generally get pissed when my internet slows during peak times when the zombies are all at home simmering their brain sludge on the latest political comedy TV program or softcore lesbian pornography with a laughtrack, all in 1080p for no reason whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flea View Post
    I don't know who 'you all' is but I said I am for net neutrality. I just don't think it's the huge issue it's made out to be. The problems underlying internet regulation are much deeper.

    I actually wouldn't be impacted at all because I don't watch Netflix or any other streaming services and generally get pissed when my internet slows during peak times when the zombies are all at home simmering their brain sludge on the latest political comedy TV program or softcore lesbian pornography with a laughtrack in 1080p for no reason whatsoever.
    Libertarian leaning/you all. If Im wrong, I apologize. And I meant for net neutrality, Ive done that twice this thread but I caught myself before

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