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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bleedB&G View Post
    rather have Krug over Grz. Krug is just not being used properly. He is a 6th d that is a PP specialist. McA can take over but why? McA is a great 5 on 5 two way D, so I wouldnt waste his energy 5 on 5.

    To me I'd be fine going in next year with

    McA - Chara/Lauzon
    Carlo - Zbroil/K Miller
    McQ - Krug

    Love Grz but as long as Krug is on the team we go enough guys under 6 foot
    Lol...Now he's a 6th defenseman? I'm sorry but Kevan Miller isn't a top 4 over TK47. Zboril/Lauzon? Not sure why they're even mentioned here, nor am I understanding why you have them splitting time with Chara/Miller and above Krug.

    59 point season? demoted to 3rd pairing lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruins>habs View Post
    Lol...Now he's a 6th defenseman? I'm sorry but Kevan Miller isn't a top 4 over TK47. Zboril/Lauzon? Not sure why they're even mentioned here, nor am I understanding why you have them splitting time with Chara/Miller and above Krug.

    59 point season? demoted to 3rd pairing lol
    In a perfect world I'd have Krug on the 3rd pairing. Match him up against weaker parts of the team and let him work both PP's (like a reverse Chara lol).

    One of the big things for me on the backend is blocked shots. IDK why, but its one of the first things I always look at with a d-man. Our team last year simply didn't do a good enough job at blocking shots. We ranked 2nd to last in blocked shots last season, but luckily we were 8th in hits. So we did a good job of separating guys from the puck, but not so good at blocking shots if we couldn't separate them.

    Think about how many goals this year game off of pucks deflecting off our own players. Will that happen from time to time? sure, but it seemed like it was every other night with this team.

    I want to get more shot blockers on this team and De Haan is one of those guys (14th in the entire NHL over the last 3 years). He's not slouch with on the other end either. He can give you 20-25 points a year, which would have been 3rd to 4th on the B's this year.

    Changing gears for a moment, I think you need to see Carlo breakout this year and get his offensive game going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneManIsNoMan View Post
    In a perfect world I'd have Krug on the 3rd pairing. Match him up against weaker parts of the team and let him work both PP's (like a reverse Chara lol).
    100% agreed.

    One of the big things for me on the backend is blocked shots. IDK why, but its one of the first things I always look at with a d-man. Our team last year simply didn't do a good enough job at blocking shots. We ranked 2nd to last in blocked shots last season, but luckily we were 8th in hits. So we did a good job of separating guys from the puck, but not so good at blocking shots if we couldn't separate them.

    Think about how many goals this year game off of pucks deflecting off our own players. Will that happen from time to time? sure, but it seemed like it was every other night with this team.

    I want to get more shot blockers on this team and De Haan is one of those guys (14th in the entire NHL over the last 3 years). He's not slouch with on the other end either. He can give you 20-25 points a year, which would have been 3rd to 4th on the B's this year.
    This is good work OneMan. I think you're spot on with shot blocking. We're not clogging the lanes for shooters and we've got torched more than once, especially in the playoffs. De Haan is a sound defensemen and does all the good things.

    Changing gears for a moment, I think you need to see Carlo breakout this year and get his offensive game going.
    Not sure if it's a stretch, but 20+ points (5G/15A) would be a great breakout for him, while playing top 4 minutes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OneManIsNoMan View Post
    In a perfect world I'd have Krug on the 3rd pairing. Match him up against weaker parts of the team and let him work both PP's (like a reverse Chara lol).
    In a perfect world, I'd like Krug on the 3rd pairing as well. However, we know that the world isn't perfect in the NHL. There aren't too many teams where Krug would be slotting on the 3rd pair in the NHL.

    One of the big things for me on the back end is blocked shots. IDK why, but its one of the first things I always look at with a d-man. Our team last year simply didn't do a good enough job at blocking shots. We ranked 2nd to last in blocked shots last season, but luckily we were 8th in hits. So we did a good job of separating guys from the puck, but not so good at blocking shots if we couldn't separate them.

    Think about how many goals this year game off of pucks deflecting off our own players. Will that happen from time to time? sure, but it seemed like it was every other night with this team.

    I want to get more shot blockers on this team and De Haan is one of those guys (14th in the entire NHL over the last 3 years). He's not slouch with on the other end either. He can give you 20-25 points a year, which would have been 3rd to 4th on the B's this year.
    Interesting stat there. I wouldn't expect the Bruins to rank that low, seeing they're a good defensive team. De Haan, on the whole, wouldn't be a bad move at all. I'm not too fond of the possibility of the contract he could get come July 1 though. He's really one the better LHDs on the market, and we always see ridiculous money thrown around. He's only 27 as well, which is intriguing for teams. He also seems to have an issue staying healthy. There was a season here where he played 51 games, but also played 17 in the AHL, so I withheld it since I don't know if he was injured or if he was just in the AHL to start (it was early in his career).

    De Haan = 252GP/328Possible = 77%
    De Haan = 303GP/379Possible = 80% (Factoring in the year he played 51 games, assuming it was 51/51).

    He only played in 33 games this year, played 82 last year, 72 the previous year, and 65 before that. While it's nice he can block shots and theoretically give you around 20-25 points, he doesn't have much of a track record of staying healthy.

    Changing gears for a moment, I think you need to see Carlo breakout this year and get his offensive game going.
    I think Shaiza is right on. If Carlo can come in and give you 20 points, take a step defensively, and continue to bring that physical game he started at the end of the this past season, it would be huge. He skates and moves the puck well enough where he should be able to grab 15 assists. He put up 16 points his rookie season (6G/10A). Only 6 assists from him just seems more like **** luck than anything. I am expecting Carlo to have a great 3rd season. He showed serious signs of it come the end. It sucks he got hurt again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaiza View Post
    100% agreed.



    This is good work OneMan. I think you're spot on with shot blocking. We're not clogging the lanes for shooters and we've got torched more than once, especially in the playoffs. De Haan is a sound defensemen and does all the good things.



    Not sure if it's a stretch, but 20+ points (5G/15A) would be a great breakout for him, while playing top 4 minutes.
    Carlo is an interesting player IMO. He's shown flashes of having the skill to be an very good #2RHD, he just can't seem to put it all together at once. To me, this was a development year for Carlo. His rookie year was just "not knowing any better" while this year I think he really tried hard to focus on developing and at times it showed.

    I think he really has a bigger offensive upside then we've seen. He just has no confidence in his ability to get back and defend...I'm sure he also doesn't want to leave Krug in a bad spot (again not the best defender). I really feel like Carlo has the ability to be a 10/20 guy in the NHL. He just needs to work on taking shots with a purpose vs just throwing it at the net.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruins>habs View Post
    In a perfect world, I'd like Krug on the 3rd pairing as well. However, we know that the world isn't perfect in the NHL. There aren't too many teams where Krug would be slotting on the 3rd pair in the NHL.



    Interesting stat there. I wouldn't expect the Bruins to rank that low, seeing they're a good defensive team. De Haan, on the whole, wouldn't be a bad move at all. I'm not too fond of the possibility of the contract he could get come July 1 though. He's really one the better LHDs on the market, and we always see ridiculous money thrown around. He's only 27 as well, which is intriguing for teams. He also seems to have an issue staying healthy. There was a season here where he played 51 games, but also played 17 in the AHL, so I withheld it since I don't know if he was injured or if he was just in the AHL to start (it was early in his career).

    De Haan = 252GP/328Possible = 77%
    De Haan = 303GP/379Possible = 80% (Factoring in the year he played 51 games, assuming it was 51/51).

    He only played in 33 games this year, played 82 last year, 72 the previous year, and 65 before that. While it's nice he can block shots and theoretically give you around 20-25 points, he doesn't have much of a track record of staying healthy.



    I think Shaiza is right on. If Carlo can come in and give you 20 points, take a step defensively, and continue to bring that physical game he started at the end of the this past season, it would be huge. He skates and moves the puck well enough where he should be able to grab 15 assists. He put up 16 points his rookie season (6G/10A). Only 6 assists from him just seems more like **** luck than anything. I am expecting Carlo to have a great 3rd season. He showed serious signs of it come the end. It sucks he got hurt again.
    The GP is a bit of a concern, but up until this season his GP was trending up. With any premier shot blocker, you're going to have injuries through out the season, its a risk you take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneManIsNoMan View Post
    Carlo is an interesting player IMO. He's shown flashes of having the skill to be an very good #2RHD, he just can't seem to put it all together at once. To me, this was a development year for Carlo. His rookie year was just "not knowing any better" while this year I think he really tried hard to focus on developing and at times it showed.

    I think he really has a bigger offensive upside then we've seen. He just has no confidence in his ability to get back and defend...I'm sure he also doesn't want to leave Krug in a bad spot (again not the best defender). I really feel like Carlo has the ability to be a 10/20 guy in the NHL. He just needs to work on taking shots with a purpose vs just throwing it at the net.
    You went from chara on your wing to krug....in his second year. Hes 20 years old. I think everybody need to sit down and relax a few years. His style of game he just needs to get stronger and more experience plus maybe playing him with a good two way d like zbroil can be or km is will let him be able to take some chance he other wise would be doing

    B&H I just want to give the kids we got in the minors more chances. But i dont want to over do it. chara lauzon kevin and zvroil all spliting time gives the kids a chance to gain experience plus give the old man some time to relax.

    The reason i dont want to sign anybody is because i dont want to over pay a guy that we can have better if we just give them sometime to grow
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneManIsNoMan View Post
    Carlo is an interesting player IMO. He's shown flashes of having the skill to be an very good #2RHD, he just can't seem to put it all together at once. To me, this was a development year for Carlo. His rookie year was just "not knowing any better" while this year I think he really tried hard to focus on developing and at times it showed.

    I think he really has a bigger offensive upside then we've seen. He just has no confidence in his ability to get back and defend...I'm sure he also doesn't want to leave Krug in a bad spot (again not the best defender). I really feel like Carlo has the ability to be a 10/20 guy in the NHL. He just needs to work on taking shots with a purpose vs just throwing it at the net.
    Defensemen, especially larger ones, generally take longer to develop. It's the hardest position to play in the NHL and like 2Bleed said he's still only 20. In my opinion Chara wasn't even that good when the bruins went out and signed him. He was still improving his skating and hockey sense well into his 30's. Z may be an exception but I'm not sure we see prime Brandon Carlo until at least 26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bleedB&G View Post
    You went from chara on your wing to krug....in his second year. Hes 20 years old. I think everybody need to sit down and relax a few years. His style of game he just needs to get stronger and more experience plus maybe playing him with a good two way d like zbroil can be or km is will let him be able to take some chance he other wise would be doing

    B&H I just want to give the kids we got in the minors more chances. But i dont want to over do it. chara lauzon kevin and zvroil all spliting time gives the kids a chance to gain experience plus give the old man some time to relax.

    The reason i dont want to sign anybody is because i dont want to over pay a guy that we can have better if we just give them sometime to grow
    Everything I've read from this group points to them feeling like Carlo is better than we saw last year. No one is pushing him out the door or saying we should trade him....at least that I see. I even mentioned that his offensive dip could be due to playing with Krug.

    I'm all for playing kids as well, but GM's (and this is what makes it so hard) have to keep one eye on now and the other on 2-3 years from now. What do I mean by that....

    We have a ton of young LHD that we'd love to sit on and develop. The problem is our "core" is going to start to decline in the very near future and our window to "win now" with this core is small. Even if you sign a guy like De Haan to a 4-5 year deal, you'll be in good shape.

    Think about this, it's 2020 off-season (2 years from now)....

    Krug is a UFA and could price himself out of Boston (again 50+ point d-men don't grow on trees)
    Chara could be retired
    McQuaid gone
    Miller gone
    Grzelyck maybe still here

    You could go into that off-season with nothing more than McAvoy + Carlo on the backend.

    Zboril - Should have at least 1 full year under his belt
    Lauzon - Could have at least 1 full year under his belt
    Vaak - Probably has 1 year of AHL under him

    ^So really if you built you're entire left side on that, are you comfortable with the lack of experience? However you get a guy like De Haan who in 2 years is 29 and still signed for 2-3 years and 3/4 of your top four is McAvoy, Carlo & De Haan.
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    I think the problem with signing DeHaan is that you risk letting Zboril sit in the AHL for too long. Itís a very fine line that weíve done pretty well with. If Zboril could be say 80% as good in two years as DeHaan, Iíd much rather go that route. I just donít think itís a smart move right now to bring in a UFA. If you want to tell me youíre willing to move on from say one of those guys (Zboril, Lauzon, the Viking preferably one of the earlier two because the Viking is the furthest from ready) and a Gryz/Krug/Carlo for a legitimate short and long term upgrade on one of them, thatís probably the move to make... Say, for example, Arizona really covets Krug... if you can flip Krug, and Zboril with some other pieces for OEL... well yeah... you do that lol... but it needs to essentially make us better and kick the can down the road on the prospects imo.

    A couple of Example Moves:

    Krug, Heinen, Zboril, draft pick for OEL/Slavin

    Gryz, Heinen, Zboril/Lauzon, JFK/Studnicka/Frederic, 2018 2nd, 2019 1st for Hanifin

    Gryz, Zboril, etc. for Nurse/Klefbom


    I think those are the types of moves that make most sense... some will require more than what I listed, but Iím just trying to get the idea out there of the types of trades we should look at



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    Quote Originally Posted by homie564 View Post
    I think the problem with signing DeHaan is that you risk letting Zboril sit in the AHL for too long. Itís a very fine line that weíve done pretty well with. If Zboril could be say 80% as good in two years as DeHaan, Iíd much rather go that route. I just donít think itís a smart move right now to bring in a UFA. If you want to tell me youíre willing to move on from say one of those guys (Zboril, Lauzon, the Viking preferably one of the earlier two because the Viking is the furthest from ready) and a Gryz/Krug/Carlo for a legitimate short and long term upgrade on one of them, thatís probably the move to make... Say, for example, Arizona really covets Krug... if you can flip Krug, and Zboril with some other pieces for OEL... well yeah... you do that lol... but it needs to essentially make us better and kick the can down the road on the prospects imo.

    A couple of Example Moves:

    Krug, Heinen, Zboril, draft pick for OEL/Slavin

    Gryz, Heinen, Zboril/Lauzon, JFK/Studnicka/Frederic, 2018 2nd, 2019 1st for Hanifin

    Gryz, Zboril, etc. for Nurse/Klefbom


    I think those are the types of moves that make most sense... some will require more than what I listed, but Iím just trying to get the idea out there of the types of trades we should look at



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    But the thing you're missing is injuries happen, guys get traded when someone like Zboril emerges and guys leave via FA. Kind of the way I play this out in my head...

    2018-2019
    Chara - McAvoy
    DeHaan - Carlo
    Krug - Miller


    2019-2020 (Krug Traded)
    Chara - McAvoy
    DeHaan - Calro
    JZ/JL/UV - Grzelyck

    2020-2021 (Chara Retired)
    DeHaan - McAvoy
    JL/JZ - Carlo
    Vaak - Grzelyck

    2021-2022 (De Haan Traded 1-2 yr left)
    Vaak - McAvoy
    Zboril - Carlo
    Lauzon - ???

    De Haan in 3 years will be 30 yrs old, which is still pretty good for a d-man.

    So for an extra year a prospect may need to bounce between the NHL/AHL, so what? not to mention those first RFA deals wont be so big. We need to take advantage of the group we have now, while also looking ahead.
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    I personally would just like to move that timeline up a year... Lauzon could use another year in Providence... I donít think Zboril would gain anything though... Iíd rather use him over De Haan this year


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    I like the chances we see Zboril.He spent time skating in QMJHL before Providence and I think he is ready to show he's NHL material,young but he is filled out at around 200 pounds which separates him from a lotta qmjhl kids his age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie564 View Post
    I personally would just like to move that timeline up a year... Lauzon could use another year in Providence... I donít think Zboril would gain anything though... Iíd rather use him over De Haan this year


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    Quote Originally Posted by OneManIsNoMan View Post
    What are you doing with Grz?
    Depends. Personally Iíd move him if you can get value, if not thereís value in using him, And Zboril in a rotation each would end with 50 or so games with injuries, etc. unless one completely separates themselves.


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