Did Cavs win the Kyrie for Isaiah trade now?

[IndyRealist]

Dam was better then George Hill the day he entered the league and I like Hill.

Except he wasn't. That's mistaking quantity for quality. As was noted in other threads, it is easy for #1 picks to put up huge scoring numbers. Their teams are usually trash, and they have free license to take all the shots they want. It's 10x worse when it's your PG, who already has the ball in his hands and can call off the play and hunt for his numbers anytime he wants to. "Face of the franchise" can usually do whatever he wants, i.e. Wiggins.

[ewing]

Except he wasn't. That's mistaking quantity for quality. As was noted in other threads, it is easy for #1 picks to put up huge scoring numbers. Their teams are usually trash, and they have free license to take all the shots they want. It's 10x worse when it's your PG, who already has the ball in his hands and can call off the play and hunt for his numbers anytime he wants to. "Face of the franchise" can usually do whatever he wants, i.e. Wiggins.

Portland won 52 games Dams second year and his numbers were very comparable to his first year. He was also taken 6th so while was certainly going to get his shot he didn't walk in as the face of the franchise. Bottom line dude could ball. As for Kyrie its getting old. He's good. IDK maybe you don't like his game but by the time LeBron got there 4 years ago he was a better player the George Hill ever was

[Jamiecballer]

I heard on PSD that Hill was a better player then Irving. Wonder why these same posters are claiming that LeBron has no help after adding him and other guys


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George Hill was better then [emoji50]

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[IndyRealist]

Portland won 52 games Dams second year and his numbers were very comparable to his first year. He was also taken 6th so while was certainly going to get his shot he didn't walk in as the face of the franchise. Bottom line dude could ball. As for Kyrie its getting old. He's good. IDK maybe you don't like his game but by the time LeBron got there 4 years ago he was a better player the George Hill ever was

Virtually the same argument is going on here: http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sho...-thread/page14 about Mitchell vs. Simmons.

[ewing]

Virtually the same argument is going on here: http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sho...-thread/page14 about Mitchell vs. Simmons.

Not really

[IKnowHoops]

Not really

Haha, see Ewing, it’s actually the people like you, the ones rooting against Bron with the crazy notions. Welcome to my world. You look/sound just like them every time you build a case against Bron, as do most. Dude is an f-ing super soldier.

[ewing]

Haha, see Ewing, it’s actually the people like you, the ones rooting against Bron with the crazy notions. Welcome to my world. You look/sound just like them every time you build a case against Bron, as do most. Dude is an f-ing super soldier.

What are you talking about?


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[Chronz]

What dies well documented mean?


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His teammatesall knew hewas done

[Chronz]

What are you talking about?


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He's talking about how you're usually wrong when it comes to the bron

[ewing]

He's talking about how you're usually wrong when it comes to the bron

We weren’t talking about him


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[JasonJohnHorn]

Kyrie Irving scored a c'ship winning 3 over Steph Curry. At the time nobody was scoring for the last 3 minutes.
He scored 40+ on 2 of last 4 games. The man is a proven champion, he has that kind of blood in his veins.

He can even win an mvp award somewhere in his carrier.

No cavs didn't win that trade. They did what they can because Irving wanted out.

He's got ice in his veins, as they say.

Also... he has knees made out of ice.

Not a good combination.

I'll gladly concede that he was a beast of Cleveland during that title run. There is no doubt. That said... I want to see what he does when he doesn't have the league's best player opening things up for him.

I've no doubt that he can succeed; he's proven that with Boston this year. However, what he does in the playoffs as the leader.. that remains to be seen.

[Chronz]

We weren’t talking about him


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You'll find a way

[ewing]

You'll find a way

You guys are bringing him up. We were taking about Hill, Lillard, and Kyrie


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[IKnowHoops]

You guys are bringing him up. We were taking about Hill, Lillard, and Kyrie


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The same guys that said George Hill was better than Kyrie also have the same filthy habit as you do of “reaching” in order to discredit Bron/Cavs. This just shows an example of the lunacy “we both” see. What Chronz was saying is correct. I said when you discredit Bron, you sound just like they do. I’m just glad you were able to see how bad ur —— actually stinks when it comes to your Bron takes.

[Chronz]

You guys are bringing him up. We were taking about Hill, Lillard, and Kyrie


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Pretty sure you brought up bron having hill or something