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  1. #46
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    Matt Rose(throw in -Q trade).....on a tear too......and playing 3B.....at Birmingham.......might slide in ahead of Burger.

    If Sheets takes longer to get here any number of guys could take over foe Abreu....Collins, Adolfo,Burger,Rose, if they fail to crack lineup at their current positions....

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    Tanking and getting the 4th pick doesn't guaranty that you get a Kris Bryant, or Arenado, or an ace pitcher.
    It is really hit and miss and I think the Sox have missed more often than not over the last several years in the first round, with a few obvious exceptions (Chris Sale).
    Their talent evaluation has left something to be desired. I am befuddled with picks like Courtney Hawkins, Fulmer, Collins and Burgur.
    And I wanted Trea Turner instead of Rodon who, because of arm issues, might not pan out in the long run.
    I revisited that 2014 Draft after thinking about it and think that could be instructive in terms of deciding aboyt pitchers vs position players as high first round picks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_M...Baseball_draft

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    GP I'll spot you Hawkins (KW pick) and Fulmer, although he may yet work out ... but you seriously need to lay off Burger and Collins. We've been through this before, Burger played half a season in the minors before he got hurt. Collins focused heavily on his D last year at the expense of his hitting. This year he is hitting so what's the problem with him? He may get passed up by Zavala, and that's ok ... as long as he can hit.
    Rodon was considered the best pitching prospect ever, more-or-less back in '14. Was the hype too much, so far sure looks that way, but at the time he was a great pick.
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    FWIW the Sox aren't tanking...they are losing, but it's not for lack of effort ... its lack of pitching and consistent hitting. I personally wasn't expecting too much from this season, but I thought they would be better than they have shown so far. I'm hoping the second half of the season will be a little more enjoyable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Matt Rose(throw in -Q trade).....on a tear too......and playing 3B.....at Birmingham.......might slide in ahead of Burger.

    If Sheets takes longer to get here any number of guys could take over foe Abreu....Collins, Adolfo,Burger,Rose, if they fail to crack lineup at their current positions....
    Sheets is looking solid in the minors so far. He isn't hitting HR's this year but he is walking a ton, and striking out very little. That's the type of guy this team needs so I'm optimistic about Sheets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garypeters View Post
    Tanking and getting the 4th pick doesn't guaranty that you get a Kris Bryant, or Arenado, or an ace pitcher.
    It is really hit and miss and I think the Sox have missed more often than not over the last several years in the first round, with a few obvious exceptions (Chris Sale).
    Their talent evaluation has left something to be desired. I am befuddled with picks like Courtney Hawkins, Fulmer, Collins and Burgur.
    And I wanted Trea Turner instead of Rodon who, because of arm issues, might not pan out in the long run.
    I revisited that 2014 Draft after thinking about it and think that could be instructive in terms of deciding aboyt pitchers vs position players as high first round picks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_M...Baseball_draft
    We aren't tanking, we are just letting our young talent develop in the minors for the time being. Makes sense. As for Collins and Burger, Burger is hurt and hasn't played half a season in the minors yet. You don't know if he was a bad pick yet. Collins is frustrating but he is also hitting .324 over his last 10, he's still Walking at a crazy rate, .209 BA and a .393 OBP. Imagine if he got that average around .250 or .275 with his plate discipline. There is also Zeby Zavala showing all kinds of promise at C too in our system so we are actually looking kind of decent at C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttman73 View Post
    FWIW the Sox aren't tanking...they are losing, but it's not for lack of effort ... its lack of pitching and consistent hitting. I personally wasn't expecting too much from this season, but I thought they would be better than they have shown so far. I'm hoping the second half of the season will be a little more enjoyable.
    We have a terrible BP. Kind of wish we would have tried to sign some solid vets so we could have traded them at the deadline for more specs. SP is going to be a huge strength for us. Lopez and Gilioto are already here, Rodon is almost back from injury, and Dunning, Cease, Kopech all look great on the farm. That's not even adding Alec Hansen who is probably our 2nd or 3rd best talent overall at SP.

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    Somebody told me (here) than Hansen needs TJ surgery. I haven't read or heard that anywhere else, does anyone know, or have a link to somewhere. I'm disappointed about that, was thinking he would be on the team this summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttman73 View Post
    Somebody told me (here) than Hansen needs TJ surgery. I haven't read or heard that anywhere else, does anyone know, or have a link to somewhere. I'm disappointed about that, was thinking he would be on the team this summer.
    https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/ba...llpen-session/

    This is the most up to date I've seen

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    With the SP depth we have coming up soon, even if Hansen had TJ, maybe we convert him into a Closer or Late inning specialist by 2020 when we are ready to compete. Kind of like Archie Bradley, Andrew Miller, Wade Davis.

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    Jiminez, 3 for 5, HR (5), 2B, and 3 RBI. He's up to .290.

    Rutherford keeps hitting.

    Collins has been on a tear and his OBP continues to be nice.

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    Jimenez 2/3 1 2B 1 HR 2 RBIs 1 BB .319

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears34ft View Post
    Jimenez 2/3 1 2B 1 HR 2 RBIs 1 BB .319
    Cannot wait to see him up. I really think he will be one of those guys that hits right out of the gate. When was the last time we had one of those? Frank? Maybe Lee/Ordonez.

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    When does Luis Robert return from the hand sprain?
    I expect his to start raking in the minors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garypeters View Post
    When does Luis Robert return from the hand sprain?
    I expect his to start raking in the minors.
    Robert (thumb) is still a week or so away from being able to fully go through all hitting drills, Scott Merkin of MLB.com reports.

    Robert is still working his way back from a moderate thumb sprain that he suffered at the beginning of March. Once he's able to fully grip a bat, which could happen in 7-to-10 days, he'll be cleared to work through a hitting progression. Barring any setbacks, Robert is expected to play games at extended spring training later in the month before reporting to High-A Winston-Salem at the end of May or beginning of June.
    https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/ba...itting-drills/

    This is from May 1st.

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