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  1. #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by long ball View Post
    Thoughts on a few things:

    Dietrich; really doesnít do much for this team. Lefty second basemen/3b/emergency OF isnít something this team needs. I think heíd get non tendered anyway do control doesnít mean much.

    Iím actually fine with starting Miller at SS for the most part. The rotation doesnít have many GB pitchers right now. Iím fine with him starting against RHP when Suter, Chase, or Peralta are pitching. Once you get to the pen with a lead he should be removed for arcia (or sogard I guess) defensively.

    Andrelton Summons is legit amazing. I donít see why the Angels would trade him though.

    Iíd be interested in Lowrie but he canít play short any more so he sorta limits the bench. Aís will probably sell rental players but theyíve been good so far.
    Barnes has been really good this year but for a guy that throws 98, has a 91 mph slider he gives up a lot of homers. Lorenzen took him for a GS today. Brewers bullpen has been phenomenal this year but do you trust anyone outside of normal 7-9 inning guys? I think if Albers is healthy I like him. Barnes can be nasty but sometimes he has issues falling behind guys and then grooving a fastball. Jennings has been struggling of late.

    Hopefully this offense can gain some consistency and start winning some easy games. This offense hasn't had a real torrid stretch consistently scoring runs. Would be nice to have a strech winning 8-2 or something instead of so many high leverage spots for Hader/Jeffress/Knebel which seems nightly.

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    I guess I will never comprehend why people rag on Barnes so much. It happens all the time and heís like the one reliever whoís consistently called out.

    I mean, heís our 5th best option when everyone is healthy. He hasnít given up an earned run in 26 of his 30 appearances. That includes a span of 12 straight scoreless appearances that spanned 11.2 innings where he only fave up 5 hits and 5 walks. obviously that stream was broken today, but heís still generally good. Iím not sure how many teams can say that about their #5 guy in the bullpen. Plus he makes $500k this year.

    Itís not just this post, but I see brewers fans tagging him all the time. I just donít get it. Every team in baseball would take a $500k righty who isnít really a specialist that generally keeps the other team from scoring in over 80% of his outings (he was pretty good st that lastvyear as well).

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    Quote Originally Posted by crewfan13 View Post
    I guess I will never comprehend why people rag on Barnes so much. It happens all the time and heís like the one reliever whoís consistently called out.

    I mean, heís our 5th best option when everyone is healthy. He hasnít given up an earned run in 26 of his 30 appearances. That includes a span of 12 straight scoreless appearances that spanned 11.2 innings where he only fave up 5 hits and 5 walks. obviously that stream was broken today, but heís still generally good. Iím not sure how many teams can say that about their #5 guy in the bullpen. Plus he makes $500k this year.

    Itís not just this post, but I see brewers fans tagging him all the time. I just donít get it. Every team in baseball would take a $500k righty who isnít really a specialist that generally keeps the other team from scoring in over 80% of his outings (he was pretty good st that lastvyear as well).
    I don't think I called him out. Just surprised the amount of HRs he gives up. Last year was a lot I think. He has been pretty good as you said as has Williams but not sure I trust anyone but the usual 3 in high leverage spots. A s you said that's pretty normal, but Hader, Jeffress can't pitch every game and saw what happened vs. Reds. It's pretty common as you said for teams not to have lights out options other than a couple guys. Was more thinking long term as far as needing more guys if team can make postseason.

    Lets be clear though this team's offense is just bad right now. Villar is struggling, Braun and Shaw have been below expectations. Really only 3 guys have been good Aguilar, Cain and Yelich. This team needs some guys to get hot offensively as Aguilar is due for a lull here. No one else has been very good driving in runs other than Shaw at times.

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    Thames and Shaw have both still been generLly pretty good. Itís just SS, 2nd and C have been so bad, it sort of exaggerates everyone else. Every time a 1-5 hitter fails, it seems amplified since the bottom canít pick them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crewfan13 View Post
    Thames and Shaw have both still been generLly pretty good. Itís just SS, 2nd and C have been so bad, it sort of exaggerates everyone else. Every time a 1-5 hitter fails, it seems amplified since the bottom canít pick them up.
    I agree. Thames needs to have 35-40 HRs to have value as he doesn't make contact enough and seems to be all-or-nothing. He does take walks which is good. Villar was doing OK, not much pop, but at least hitting .280...but when he's under .260 his OBP will be hovering around .300..which is the case for too many guys. Pina, Perez, Braun right around .300 OBP. Shaw has come through with RISP a lot. This team with Cain and Yelich out is really going to struggle scoring runs. Top two guys are going to have OBPs around .310 rn but at least Cain should come off very soon. Hopefully Yelich doesn't need DL stint. Brewers just need to tread water right now with those guys out. Jesus has to be losing steam carrying the middle of the order for last month-plus and as you said the bottom-third of the lineup being trash. With Miller leading off and Hernan Perez hitting fifth - woof - it's not going to be pretty especially with pen running on fumes not likely Brewers can keep winning pitching duels. Need the offense to start scoring some runs consistently.

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    Thames also has a decent amount of extra base hits as well. I know you guys arenít as big of believers in stats like wRC+ as I am, but both that measure, both thames and Shaw are about 20% above league average at the plate.

    Brad Miller has been swinging a great bat lately, but hopefully saladino can come back soon. Iíd feel much better with Miller at 2nd than short.

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    Letís not overlook the fact that Barnes, Jennings, and Williams combined to pitch 4 scoreless innings last night that kept the Brewers in the game and allowed them to come back.

    Itís easy to point to games like the Reds game over the weekend and say you donít trust these guys, but they really are going a good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by long ball View Post
    Letís not overlook the fact that Barnes, Jennings, and Williams combined to pitch 4 scoreless innings last night that kept the Brewers in the game and allowed them to come back.

    Itís easy to point to games like the Reds game over the weekend and say you donít trust these guys, but they really are going a good job.
    I have said the pen has been doing a great job, but I trust the guys that pitched last night way more in a game like last night down 5-3, than trying to protect a 1-run lead, that's all. Good to see Jennings pitch a scoreless frame. Williams when he has control and throwing strikes is a stud. Barnes is very good for most part too. I just don't trust them with a 3-2 lead is all. Pen overall has been outstanding. Offense has been struggling to score runs but has won a number of 4-3 type-games. Brewers are now 19-11 in 1-run games. Only can do that with a good pen allowing you to come back and Hader, Jeffress locking down close wins.

    I agree crewfan. Feel better about Miller at 2B than SS, but I am not as anti-Villar as many others. He is hitting .260 and has higher OBP than a lot of other options - Sogard, Arcia, Perez and higher than Pina and Braun. He gets a bad rap but for this team's offense he has been one of the better hitters. I agree also on Shaw and Thames value. Thames doesn't come through a ton but when he does it's a HR or 2B or a hard hit ball. Shaw is 0 for 9 with bases loaded this year but in general been good with RISP especially early in the year. I think he's going to get going here soon. Taking walks and seeing the ball well right now. Wrist getting healthy. Not sure Braun will ever get hot for a two-week stretch this year. Just seems content to swing at first pitch like afraid to get deep into counts because doesn't want to K. He's hit more slow rollers to third this year already than any year I remember in the past.

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    So everyone agrees that the bull pen is great. That Hader, Jeffries & Kneble are close to flawless and that Barnes is good, Williams and Jennings decent and looking forward to Albers coming back to make the pen even better. Everyone also agrees that the bats are struggling, particularily the C, SS and 2B spots. So would we be better off trading for a solid Bat instead of a Starter at the deadline? Would you rather get Syndergard from the Mets or Realmuto from the Marlins?

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    If the price is close to the same, give me syndergaard. I think you can find some decent bats for 2nd and maybe an okay rental at C for fairly cheap. But getting an ace is next to impossible, especially one with 3 years of control.

    Realmulto may help more for this season, but syndergaard helps enough this year and more in the future. 2nd and C arenít super expensive in FA.

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    Today will be interesting in the pen. I have to assume Knebel and Hader are definitely off limits and Counsell may want to stay away from Jeffress as well.

    They may need to make a roster move and add Woodruff, Lopez, or Asher to help cover the next day or so.

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    The bullpen is finally getting burned out, this is why they need a starting pitcher to be able to go at least 8 innings, that's like an extra rest day for the bullpen.

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    I wouldnít say theyíre neccesarily burned out. They just used their big guns enough recently that they need a day off. Getting a big time starter would help that, but even if the big time guy goes 7, youíre still using 2 top relievers in a close game.

    Just as important for us to start getting some 7-2 types of wins so we can let dan Jennings and Taylor Williams finish the last two innings. Or let Adrian houser throw the 2+ innings in a decent win. Donít get me wrong, Iíd love an ace, but we just need to get a few wins by 4+, which would require the offense to break out. Hopefully the emergence of Miller, plus the potential return Cain and saladino and better heath from Shaw and yellich gets that offense back in business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crewfan13 View Post
    If the price is close to the same, give me syndergaard. I think you can find some decent bats for 2nd and maybe an okay rental at C for fairly cheap. But getting an ace is next to impossible, especially one with 3 years of control.

    Realmulto may help more for this season, but syndergaard helps enough this year and more in the future. 2nd and C arenít super expensive in FA.
    So same scenario Jacob Degrom or Manny Machado?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HacksawButch View Post
    So same scenario Jacob Degrom or Manny Machado?
    Degrom no doubt, but years of control is huge with that one too. Iím generally not a fan of half year rentals for a big price tag. Too much can happen in a half season. I prefer to get at least a season and a half out of a guy.

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