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  1. #271
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    No tag for Robinson

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    Im fine with going BPA and taking a safety, but Id prefer to trade down. I really like the guys we have now and we have more important holes to fill up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sager729 View Post
    Allen Robinson will NOT be tagged by the Jags and will hit the open market per Rapoport.
    Good. Sign Robinson, Wilson and take another receiver in the 4th or 5th. Give us a chance to build up the OLine and defense in the draft.

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    Bears are still in negotiation with Dolphins on Landry trade possibility according to google sources.


    Quote Originally Posted by JBears79 View Post
    Good. Sign Robinson, Wilson and take another receiver in the 4th or 5th. Give us a chance to build up the OLine and defense in the draft.

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    I'll be very disappointed in Pace if he doesn't make a serious play for ARob.

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    There's a serious gap between Landry's and A. Robinson's career catch percentage numbers. Huge disparity there. Not sure Allen Robinson should be Pace's 1st WR target over Landry.

    A-Rob Career Targets/Receptions (384/202) with 16 Game Starts for both 2015 & 2016 seasons. A-Rob Catch Percentages were 53.0% in '15 and 48.3% in '16. 2014 he had 10 games with 8 starts and had a 59.3% catch percentage.

    Landry Career Targets/Receptions (570/400) with 64 games and 57 Game Starts. Landry Catch Percentage per season; 75.0% ('14), 66.3% ('15), 71.8% ('16) and 69.6% ('17).

    These two aren't remotely close to the same WR. I'm all in on Landry.

    Landry--> https://www.pro-football-reference.c...L/LandJa00.htm

    A-Rob--> https://www.pro-football-reference.c...R/RobiAl02.htm
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Landry and Wilson play the same position?
    A-Rob can come in as the #1 or #2 (not sure who #1 is) with either Landry or Wilson in the slot.
    Bring in one more, Lee, Richardson, Brown or perhaps Cam Meredith and you have a solid group.
    I still like Inman as a #4 or 5, Bellamy if you have to. Kevin White will be whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmmahhh View Post
    There's a serious gap between Landry's and A. Robinson's career catch percentage numbers. Huge disparity there. Not sure Allen Robinson should be Pace's 1st WR target over Landry.

    A-Rob Career Targets/Receptions (384/202) with 16 Game Starts for both 2015 & 2016 seasons. A-Rob Catch Percentages were 53.0% in '15 and 48.3% in '16. 2014 he had 10 games with 8 starts and had a 59.3% catch percentage.

    Landry Career Targets/Receptions (570/400) with 64 games and 57 Game Starts. Landry Catch Percentage per season; 75.0% ('14), 66.3% ('15), 71.8% ('16) and 69.6% ('17).

    These two aren't remotely close to the same WR. I'm all in on Landry.

    Landry--> https://www.pro-football-reference.c...L/LandJa00.htm

    A-Rob--> https://www.pro-football-reference.c...R/RobiAl02.htm
    These aren't apples to apples comparisons though.

    Landry plays primarily in the slot and most of his receptions are within 10 yards of the LoS. Robinson plays primarily outside and most of his receptions are past 10 yards of the LoS and is more of a deep threat/jump ball receiver (which are very low % throws).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmmahhh View Post
    I'd love to see the breakdown of numbers even further from what you are saying, I.E. % of receptions within 10 yds of LOS, receptions of 20yds or more, etc. It might shorten the gap a bit, but A-Rob still isn't at the level of Landry when it comes to WRs (IMO). He's certainly more of an unknown and injury risk than Landry is.
    I tend to agree.

    The rub is compensation and if the Bears have to part with assets for Landry. Also, what their contracts will look like.

    Id love either one. In a vacuum Ill take Landry but Id be more than happy with signing Robinson outright and holding onto assets.

    That said, I think Landry is the better overall WR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnGoat View Post
    These aren't apples to apples comparisons though.

    Landry plays primarily in the slot and most of his receptions are within 10 yards of the LoS. Robinson plays primarily outside and most of his receptions are past 10 yards of the LoS and is more of a deep threat/jump ball receiver (which are very low % throws).
    I'd love to see the breakdown of numbers even further from what you are saying, I.E. % of receptions within 10 yds of LOS, receptions of 20yds or more, etc. It might shorten the gap a bit, but A-Rob still isn't at the level of Landry when it comes to WRs (IMO). He's certainly more of an unknown and injury risk than Landry is also.
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    Go figure, the one year in freaking forever the Bears don't need a safety and we will have two good ones available (most likely) who would probably be BPA at our pick...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBears79 View Post
    Good. Sign Robinson, Wilson and take another receiver in the 4th or 5th. Give us a chance to build up the OLine and defense in the draft.

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    This is the route that I am endorsing for the WR corp.


    Sign Robinson and Wilson, use a 2nd or one of the 4th rounders on a WR, maybe resign Inman.


    would look something like..

    Robinson
    Wilson
    Draft pick
    Meredith
    Inman/White

    possibly resign Inman and let him and White battle it out for the final roster spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KG2TB View Post
    I tend to agree.

    The rub is compensation and if the Bears have to part with assets for Landry. Also, what their contracts will look like.

    Id love either one. In a vacuum Ill take Landry but Id be more than happy with signing Robinson outright and holding onto assets.

    That said, I think Landry is the better overall WR.
    Just my opinion, but the Dolphins either want players or to better position themselves to land a QB in the draft. Miami also has zero leverage at the moment. I would think worst case scenario of a realistic deal for the Bears is swapping 8th overall for 11th and Landry.

    And while I love possibly getting a crack at G-Nelson or LB-Edmunds at 8th overall, there's no way that's better than Landry and the player the Bears could draft at 11th overall.

    The Sportrac Market Value difference between projected Landry and Allen Robinson deals aren't far off. If you're paying that for A-Rob, why not pay a tad more and pay the better WR?

    Jarvis Landry Market Value
    5 yrs, $69,013,570
    Avg. Salary: $13,802,714

    Allen Robinson Market Value
    5 yrs, $68,060,485
    Avg. Salary: $13,612,097
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